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1121  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Methods of growing your Bitcoin? on: June 26, 2015, 12:22:51 PM
Free diff altcoins giveaway @ Yobit now.

I will save those coins hoping that will increase its price someday. Hoping this method will my bitcoin grow.
You better do something in your real life as relying on simply that to grow your money isn't the best way. There are other ways to earn money than giveaways on a site. I grow using my skills from my daily job to help sites and accept payment in bitcoins.

Why you guys serious here in my post lol. Post counts? I have replies from above please read it. Like I said I get it for FREEEEEEEEE FREEEEEEEEEEE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE and I don't rely on that method but still it has a chance to grow even at %1. Of course there are many method. This is just one of it.

How many hours you need to claim the free altcoin ?
You might earn more money by working than claiming the free altcoin giveaway

LOL x999..

Like I said Im not relying of them. Whew are you really getting my point or just increasing your post count? Don't be serious on my post. Of course EVERYONE knows that working is much better that claiming free altcoin giveaway. Are you reading previous comment? I already earned 0.1 from sports betting today. That save altcoins method is just my side doing/earnigns together with signature campain , playing dice and selling prepaid products here in my country. Men come on read before you comment. You guys are in high rank now.

Yeah getting a job is better than anything you can do in the Bitcoin world. Signature campaign, altcoin gambling (buying when they are low, giveaways, whatever) straight Bitcoin betting... it's all a small plus. Then there's loans which probably means getting scammed every once and again by people that don't pay back.
1122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Don't be the Ronald Wayne of Bitcoin on: June 25, 2015, 12:33:33 PM
For every Ronald Wayne, there are thousands of people who held onto stocks that have gone bust. You all should take note that you are running a much higher chance of holding onto worthless coins than bitcoin going to the moon.

Everyone here has understood what OP meant, spare the occasional retard known for his fudsters post that got the history backwards.
Only the 1% of people that bought cheap ass Apple stocks are still holding them becoming billionaires.
Tons of other stocks have never gone down in time. All of the best Warren Buffet picks he bought decades ago and still hasn't sold (too bad he lacks the long term vision for bitcoin or anything technological).
Not buying BTC now and holding for 2 decades is a guaranteed future suicide due too much regret, specially being an active member here.


The comparison would be valid for those who bought BTC below 1$ and sold for ~10$. Try another comparison:



Nope. Sure, you'll not become a billonaire unless you bought at the super early stages, but anyone can become a millionaire one buys now. The interim marketcap for BTC in the future is in the trillions, as it will change all electronic payments combined. This makes anyone holding 10 coins-ish inevitably a millionaire.
1123  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 25, 2015, 12:00:28 PM
Gold is a very interesting element out there, but despite it's appeal, it is very hard for me to consider it money.

Its the same as diamonds, emeralds and rubys, all of them are shiny precious assets, but none of them are money, they are just valuable commodities Smiley

Bitcoin is money.

as a far as i know(joking here), the value to a thing(any thing) is given by us, by supply and demand, and not by an astronomical entity, everything has value and in the same time everything has not it

this is the reason why something cannot really be considered more worthless if one day there will be more adoption for it

something is really without value only if no one care about it

Anything that can represent value that you can use to exchange goods is money.. including diamonds, emerland and ruby, but in modern society it was constituted that fiats are money.
Bitcoin is a objectively superior form of money, still unknown to society. This is a paradigm shift that will take time.
As for intrinsic value, nothing has intrinsic value, except food, whater and shelter, because everyone needs those, so those are ALWAYS in demand, therefore it can be deduced that they have intrinsic value, because they'll be forever in demand.
1124  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country looses the most when Bitcoin becomes the Currency of Planet Earth on: June 25, 2015, 11:55:46 AM
Which country looses the most when Bitcoin becomes the Currency of Planet Earth?

Additionally what happens to those pesky regulatory/"aiding" bodies, IMF, World Bank, SWIFT.

I have got my presumptions, what's your's?

I don't think Bitcoin will replace national fiat currencies.. people attach their own currencies to their own countries, as an unique identity for their country. Unless people become more open minded in the future, I don't see it happening. Bitcoin may become the #1 worldwide payment method, but not necessarly replace the national currencies.

Regulators will exist as long as government and state exist.
1125  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: First Bitcoin ATM (BTM) comes to Greece amidst the recession! on: June 25, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Buy rate: EUR 247.40    Huh

where you see it? are they trying to cover they debt with this ploy?

As in most EU countries it's not defined by law..yet..

it does not mean that you can't declare anything, especially if your income is very high

247.40 Euro?
This is very strange and unfair rate, something is wrong with that.
Are you sure this is correct?
We just recently got first Bitcoin ATM in Croatia and we don't have such ridiculous rate.
Regarding law, in my country we can't report to IRS any income in BTC directly, it must be in national currency.
Any way, this is still gray and undefined zone.
 

They are doing the classic "let's charge these European idiots the same number we charge to the Americans, except we switch the dollar sign for the euro sign" move. Maybe they'll be able to pay the debt with that.
And as others have pointed out, im pretty sure this requires credentials which would attach that withdraw/deposit to your real name forever.
1126  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain on: June 25, 2015, 11:44:48 AM
All the companies that use their own blockchains instead of the Bitcoin blockchain will go Kodak. All the companies that use the Bitcoin blockchain will succeed, and it will translate in the BTC price.
1127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are key scramblers effective in beating keyloggers to protect our btc wallets? on: June 25, 2015, 11:24:59 AM
there is a trick you can do to fuck those malware-keylogger or whatever they are

you need to write the password in a non standard way

for example your password is helloworld(just to make it simple), then you write h(space)l(delete)eo(delete)lo(space)w(y)(delete)o(space)r(7)(delete)l(and)d

in this way his keylogger will acquire 21 characters when your password is only made with 10

There are keyloggers that will show you when you pressed delete and space during a password prompt so they could be able to figure it out.
1128  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Reputable/Trustworthy Mixers on: June 25, 2015, 11:22:30 AM
You can always use an exchange of your choice. I suggest bitfinex.com, because they don't wait for many confirmations. When you withdraw you will withdraw from another address in their wallet. So nobody can connect the dots until he has the data bitfinex owns.

exchanges are not a private mixer. especially if your account if verified with your personal details. a bitcoin mixer is much better as they respect your privacy in full. as amph suggested already, bitmixer.io is a trusted mixer.

Both a mixer and an exchange should respect your privacy in principle. You are trusting that an exchange will not deliver details when asked, and you are trusting a mixer will not keep logs and dont deliver details when asked.. both are centralized and require trust, they are not real solutions to anonymity. Unfortunately it's all we can have for now. I've heard about CoinJoin but not sure how that works.
1129  Economy / Economics / Re: Will You buy a pizza at 10,000 sat? on: June 24, 2015, 09:35:10 PM
Think about it. The guy that received the coins was probably some clueless pizza guy with a motorcycle. He probably forgot about the coins and potentially lost them. They were worthless back then so I doubt he cared to put them on a safe place.
1130  Economy / Economics / Re: Rothschild's gigantic banking family prepares for the inevitable on: June 24, 2015, 09:10:16 PM
Now we only need a single Rothchild member to put some of his/her wealth into BTC to drive the price to jupiter. Anyone getting in BTC can only be an ally, that is the beauty of the blockchain, so they are welcome.
1131  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is it worth to mine with my old computer on: June 24, 2015, 09:05:38 PM
Mining for you isn't completely out of the question yet. Mining for bitcoin is out of the question for you, not altcoins.
Depending on your processor, you may still be able to mine new, low-difficulty coins. These coins usually have a low value, however if your processor is decent you could ROI and make a small profit and or hold onto those low value coins.

Unless he has a good, up to date GPU it's most likely worth it as well. I got an i5 which is not 5 years old, and I remember trying to mine Maxcoin and some other less known at release CPU coin, and it was not worth it, I couldn't get many coins.
Your best bet is a good GPU and getting the right coin to mine early on.
1132  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Could Satoshi Nakamoto be the CIA/NSA? on: June 24, 2015, 08:57:50 PM
well, it's a given that it is pure speculation and just a working theory. I don't have the leisure of time to go cross-examine the code, but if someone funds the project or we can maybe do some type of collective funding, then I will get a team organized to put this theory to rest.

Obviously if there's interest. I mean it would make for a badass movie if it's true, but yes it is science fiction only at this point, and in the trollolol archive is where it should be filed until further proof emerges.  Wink

Let's say you get funded to do your thing. how would you go about testing it?

Would you be willing to disclose your real identity to publish your research on the subject?

And why don't you include some of the other plausible theories while you're at it?

Some people don't care about personal recognition. Bitcoin has been a success and Satoshi is rich, he doesn't need to be famous. Also, it's a bad idea to disclose your identity when you are doing something that could challenge the banking status quo.
1133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Gregory Maxwell threatens to sell his bitcoins and find other things to work on on: June 24, 2015, 08:56:29 PM
He probably had a bad day. He's working a lot on BTC and he just announced all those cool blockstream features. Coding wizards are human too.
If he ends up selling he'll regret doing so so he knows better.
1134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How many friends did you recommend bitcoin to? Did they accept it? on: June 24, 2015, 08:48:56 PM
I recommended bitcoin to my brother and sold him some at $600 + . I felt so bad that I couldn't even go to his wedding, because his wife told him not to buy them. That is pretty sad I know, but that goes to show...recommending it was a bad move on my part...I have a feeling bitcoin will pop above $1000 again, and things will in the end will turn out profitable for him.

Wow that sucks. Thats why I always avoid talking about anything that has to do with investing with friends and specially family.. let people search for their own investments. You can talk about Bitcoin, but not actively recommend buying imo.
1135  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: June 23, 2015, 04:24:35 PM
Actually lending might be a good idea, just ask for their account as collateral. If they pay you back, great! If not, you get their account and could enroll it in a signature campaign.  Cool
I've never thought about that. You mean you would get their Bitcointalk.org account if they don't pay back? and how does that work exactly? who gets the password, the escrow?
What if he using a low-valued account like member or whatever, and he's gaining more by not returning your money than you are gaining by getting their account?
This would lead to only doing business with Sr.Member+ and never lending more than their account's value.
1136  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: BTC buy and sell/ save on fees and taxes. on: June 23, 2015, 04:20:00 PM
Nice ad and gmail address surely increased my confidence in you and your business. Roll Eyes

Well, plenty of recognized people use gmail. Gmaxwell himself uses a gmail addresses.. so it shouldn't mean anything. Stop email racism lol.
1137  Economy / Speculation / Re: If Greece leaves Euro - effect on BTC? on: June 23, 2015, 04:18:05 PM
Turmoil in world financial markets is good for bit coin.
But I don't see the Greek crisis ending quickly

What's for sure is on the 30th they'll not pay, therefore, they'll give them 6 more months of fucking around.. and it should get solved, should. If it doesn't, it would be more against the interest of the EU than it is against the Greek's. Once a country leaves the EU, the Brussels treaty is broken, so you can expect anything... they keep reforming it tho, it's a joke.
1138  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How is bitcoin better than litecoin? on: June 23, 2015, 04:14:53 PM
Well? Let's hear it.

Obviously Bitcoin is much better than litecoin.Because Bitcoin has big market and world wide acceptance. 
A large market and acceptance doesn't mean it is better by that standard then paypal is better than Bitcoin and we all know that is just not true.

It make you wonder why bitcoin because it was the first of its class, is like pairing litecoin and feathercoin the people give its value, we could say bitcoin is a lot better organize with bigger players in the game.
Sorry I am bit confused but I am going to reply to the last part. I wouldn't say Bitcoin is more organized based off all of the drama with the blocksize but it definitely does has bigger players but does that really make it better? Does having more large companies trying to profit off a coin make it the better coin?

Yes it is true. Having more companies will make it a better coin. Larger companies bitcoin is depends on each people usage, the more usage the more

coin and the bigger is the company. I guess that is a lot of question why they are using bitcoin more than other coin. If there are no special things

about this coin compared to others it wont has a bigger player

Network effect is so damn important, people seem to not get it. The best technology isn't always the one that ends up winning, but in this case, there isn't even better technology... tell me a coin that is technologically better that companies would find worth it dumping their BTC based infrastructures and investments to jump on it.. there's none. All the geniuses of coding are in Bitcoin, or indirectly working in something related to it.
1139  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Carve a private key into a stone? on: June 23, 2015, 03:59:47 PM
What material they use to make those Black-Boxes inside an Aeroplane, that thing can take a good beating and it seem to survive in heat, water, etc. It'd be pretty safe to put some keys inside a safe box made of the same material.

But the thing is none of these things are safe from physical theft, they may last for life long but if a thief is able to get to them, they will be able to swipe off the key and steal the funds, they don't even need to move the carved stone or whatever and when and if bitcoin gets more mainstream we will see more robberies to steal people's stacked bitcoins.
BIP38 encryption? IMO, they are pretty secure from bruteforcing if you choose a hard password. Of course, this wouldn't be viable if you do lose your password but you can still store the password somewhere safe, far away from your paper wallet. Alternatively, multi sigs can potentially prevent this problem by either placing them at a few secure locations or with a few of your trusted friends. If you need to spend it, you would at least need m of n of the signatures. This would protect against theft and it would provide redundancy.

Isn't BIP38 an encrypted QR code? I like it. I think ALL paper wallets should be encrypted. I feel totally unsafe by leaving around a private printed key.. i think it's insane. But if it requests a password after scanning, now that's safe. Im pretty good at remembering important passwords. What would be considered a strong pass in terms of amounts of characters?
1140  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I want YOU for bitcoin core! on: June 23, 2015, 03:56:16 PM
Yeah already saw this posted on reddit, pretty funny. But since that's Gavin on the pic.. shouldn't it say "I want you for Bitcoin XT"? lol
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