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941  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Crypto-Forums.Net Pay Per Post Earning Programs on: November 28, 2017, 02:36:41 PM
I just want to applaud the people who are wasting their efforts on this site or maybe it's just the same person who owns it and making newbie accounts to make it look good. I could get 100x  the highest reward that you have given in some airdrops.

It's hard to run legit projects, at the beginning the rewards were much better and I'm sure it wasn't sustainable, so rewards were decreased a lot since then. This forum would work very well with a decent amount of traffic, people rating each other more often.
942  Economy / Speculation / Re: what will happen with the BTC, if the dollar falls on: November 27, 2017, 01:02:33 AM
Directly effects are zero. People from China watch BTC quotation in Yuan for local purposes as it's their currency, people from each country watch BTC quotation in local currency. What happens with Dollar is that everyone always look BTC quotation as Dollar being the reference before looking their own local currencies. If Yuan takes control like you say, what would happen with Bitcoin is that instead of Dollar be the reference, it would be Yuan.  Cheesy
943  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Faucet Owners should wake up! on: November 27, 2017, 12:37:36 AM
I totally agree with you. Bloody recaptcha takes too much time and nerves to solve it and get few satoshi. But mostly faucet owners doesn't care much about it. There are many alternatives for recaptcha, but they don't even try it. I like when faucet owners gives option to choose captcha to solve. But sometimes faucet don't use recaptcha, but we still have to solve it by visiting url shortener.

That is the point, even faucet owners remove Recaptcha from their sites we will still have to solve Recaptcha from short-links... What is actually happening is that we need to solve two captchas when trying to claim on faucet (from the faucet site + from short-link), and sometimes we have to solve antibot links too.

This campaign should be general and not only for faucet owners... Short-link site's owners should join too.
944  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next BTC Crash? When? on: November 26, 2017, 08:40:45 PM
Adoption is increasing and surprising even the most pessimistic people. Bitcoin is going up to $10.000 soon, I believe the regulations are more common nowadays, more businessmen start their businesses focused in Crypto-Currency technology and more people feel safe to invest in Bitcoins now as they see successful stories on the internet, maybe on their friends circle and they see the advantages of investing now.

I have seen experts saying Bitcoin can hit $14.000 in few months, but I prefer to see if it will reach $10.000 first to start thinking about any other progress.
945  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Legalizing Bitcoin on: November 26, 2017, 03:45:31 AM
That is the best option they have. If it's difficult to regulate it for the reasons you said, now imagine how hard it would be to ban Bitcoin and follow everyone who uses it. At least regulating, it is more interesting for them as they will get $ in taxes from users. I'm not saying it would be good for everyone (for users), but it would be surely good for governments.
946  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Faucets are real waste of time??? on: November 26, 2017, 01:25:12 AM
Yes, you have probably read such a comment many times so far. Especially some high forum ranked users are posting comments similar to that. Although i can not agree with it i, respect others opinion. Simply, some of us are faucet user and some are not. I personally met with bitcoin through faucets, and i still use them often since i am running a Xapo faucet list, therefore i am very active at this particular part of the forum. But why one would spend time reading topics here when they think it is a real waste of time? Is it possible that they are faucet owners but not active users, then why would someone shit where they eat?

I like faucets and i use them daily. I truly believe they are introducing a lot of new users to Bitcoin every single day.
faucets brought me a total of 0.1 btc for sure in this 5 years im doing it. Claiming! not ownling a faucet thats different. a good faucet will start to make money after 4/5 months but then you need to get your traffic stable so in the beginning its working with losses and hope you get them back in the end.. most faucets just dont live that long cause they dont know what they are doing
You are talking about past times, sure, whoever claimed from faucet 5 years ago made profit for sure and whoever bought bitcoin in 2009 for 100$ is now sitting on 200 million dollars. But it is wrong way of thinking!

The past time can repeat itself again. As you said, who bought Bitcoins in 2009 for $100 is now sitting on 200 million dollars. And who is using faucets now and accumulating their earnings can sit on a big fortune in some years. For who doesn't have money to buy Bitcoins or is too young to worry about earning real money to survive I think it's a good deal...
947  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin seems outdated on: November 26, 2017, 12:41:33 AM
It seems outdated, but it's still ruling the Crypto-Currency world... (And it's almost hiting $9000).
You can think it's outdated, but the reality shows the opposite in numbers. People are complaining all day long about Bitcoin and trying to promote their favorite Crypto-Currencies, but most investors still prefer Bitcoin.
948  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: What about Bitcoin and consumer protection? on: November 25, 2017, 02:45:07 PM
To have a protection like that you would need to use a centralized service that would guarantee you some advantages, but then Bitcoin wouldn't be decentralized anymore for you, you would need to follow any rules this service force you to do. And I think there isn't any service fully protecting the users right now. At some point I believe gonvernments will introduce this consumer protection when regulating Bitcoin on each respective country, but don't think it will be a good thing at all...
949  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Solution For Services Who Want To Adopt Bitcoin on: November 25, 2017, 03:18:10 AM
It's a big concern from businessesmen to start accepting Bitcoins on their stores, restaurants, etc. And one of the main reasons is because the time the transaction takes to be confirmed is too long. Then I was thinking what could be useful for them: To let their customers open a account on the service's site and add BTCs to their balances.

Then, when the customer goes the place and buy/pay for something, the amount will be deduct from this balance. So you don't need to worry about sending low transactions paying expensive fees and about waiting too much time to have your transaction confirmed.

What do you think?

Why is it necessary to load money into the account? Instead, the seller can just use an autopayment site like bitpay or rocketr. These already have full implementations for their payment processors and there have been few known issues with their payment functions. If some large corporation tried to centralize payments, they would run into issues with refunds and people who don't understand how BTC works.

To skip the "middleman" service. These services are really useful and interesting, but why must people use them?

There could be other options if wished...

Regardless of which service people use, the ones that I stated or the idea that OP had, there would always be a middleman. In op's situation, he's stating that the middleman is this other service that acts like a debit card account. It still is a middleman service, but it may be not as clean as bitpay or the selling sites are.

No. OP says for an example: You go to a fast food shop and this fast food has a site online which allows you to have a balance on it in Crypto-Currency (no middleman, it's between you and the fast food only). Then you buy some food and pay (maybe tipping a code that belongs to your account), right after the amount is debited from your balance on the site. The buyer is dealing directly with the seller, vice-versa.
950  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Solution For Services Who Want To Adopt Bitcoin on: November 25, 2017, 02:10:05 AM
It's a big concern from businessesmen to start accepting Bitcoins on their stores, restaurants, etc. And one of the main reasons is because the time the transaction takes to be confirmed is too long. Then I was thinking what could be useful for them: To let their customers open a account on the service's site and add BTCs to their balances.

Then, when the customer goes the place and buy/pay for something, the amount will be deduct from this balance. So you don't need to worry about sending low transactions paying expensive fees and about waiting too much time to have your transaction confirmed.

What do you think?

Why is it necessary to load money into the account? Instead, the seller can just use an autopayment site like bitpay or rocketr. These already have full implementations for their payment processors and there have been few known issues with their payment functions. If some large corporation tried to centralize payments, they would run into issues with refunds and people who don't understand how BTC works.

To skip the "middleman" service. These services are really useful and interesting, but why must people use them?

There could be other options if wished...
951  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Are Bitcoin private property on: November 24, 2017, 09:21:06 PM
Private property implies what is owned and accessible only to an individual and with this we can say that bitcoin is private property.
In order to be eligible for a private property you should be able to prove it. How can you prove that bitcoin account belongs to you? Bitcoin is more like public property. Any person who has the access code can dispose of the bitcoins. Fiat, for example, is not the private property of the citizens. It is the property of the state. You only have the right to dispose of it.

I'm sure it's not public, however I don't have any legal justify to argue Bitcoin isn't public... Bitcoin is surely private property, if someone takes your code and access your money it's theft. The problem is that there isn't guarantees on the law about it, for the local laws Bitcoin doesn't exist...

But as I know countries want Bitcoin holders to declare their coins as asset, paying annual tax and if they want it they must offer a guarantee back, no?
952  Economy / Securities / Re: Invest in gambling site (what you think) on: November 24, 2017, 08:49:56 PM
Ideally doing any business or investing in any project require a complete understanding of the project, market and the world dynamics about how if can affect your business. Also invest only if you know the business group personally or are recognizable in their city. Else its a big gamble you might do without knowing much details.


That is almost impossible for most people here to know personally who runs the investments. If that is a must for you, hardly you will find an investment here to put your money... Surely it's a big risk to invest online, especially not knowing who is behind it, but we take in consideration their reputation built along the years (talking about casinos and other possible investments), the proportion between risk and profit return, to check if it worth or not. And so far this proportion is very worthful in my opinion when investing in casino bankrolls.
953  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin is like heroin on: November 24, 2017, 08:21:41 PM
I can't see any similarity between something that is changing people's lives for better and drugs that destroy people's lives and don't give them any real benefit. Drugs are one of the most deep problems in society and in people's lives, I don't even compare this kind of thing with drinks addiction, because it's different. Money "addicteds" are ambitious, envious and unscrupulous without being under effect of any substance (what is the case of drugs addicted).
954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you would win a Jackpot what would you do with the money? on: November 24, 2017, 07:11:08 PM
the one thing that i can do is withdraw the money into my other wallet and then withdraw 75% the money into my bank account and leave the rest in the wallet, maybe i will left some amount in my account so i can playing the games in other times. i want to save the money for another things and for my future so i have money if i am an urgent situations.
Good thing you have a plan if that happens. I think it depends now on the applicantion if in case you win a jackpot. Many people are having problems in that part of the plan because having lots of money can sometimes cause you to lose control over spendig especially if you're not used to holding a lot of money

I would applicate the money in different places. 200 BTCs as OP says is a lot of money, $1.640.000 dollars. With this money I could buy several pieces of land and build anything I want. I would run some different businesses related to the land. To say the truth it's too much money that I don't have idea how to use all this money... I could do everything I want and there would be more money to spend yet.
955  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A bitcoin MMORPG is a good idea?. a cryptoworld on: November 24, 2017, 06:52:02 PM
Yes, it would be a good idea, but the MMORPG should have quality. Nice design, many different skills to practice, quests, enemies to defeat, epic cities... Only technology isn't enough, creativity and sensibility is very important when creating a game. The game can have Crypto-Currency involved, but if people think it boring or don't like it for any other reason no one will play... I have seen some people talking about projects like this, but have never gone ahead.
956  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: OBitman - new BTC faucet on: November 24, 2017, 06:19:14 PM
The faucet is now paying instantly.
Who didn't get a Satoshi - verify bitcoin-address. A lot of bad addresses.

Much better now, thanks for that...
Received the amount was pending on balance before, very nice.  Smiley

And got 32 satoshis on my last claim right now, good prize to claim every 15 minutes just by solving one captcha, no need to view a short-link, no anti-bot links, no heavy pop-ups or ads. Good.
957  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Africa Slow on the Bitcoin Uptake? on: November 24, 2017, 05:49:11 PM
One example of how Africa countries deal with Bitcoins is Morocco. Forbidden there. Bitcoin could help those countries, but their governments won't let it happen. It's interesting for the governments there to let people starve and stay poor forever. This way they can take money from first world countries who send donations and enjoy their mahjarrat lives. The main problem isn't that, the real problem is that people there aren't united and idealist to change the situation.
958  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: General idea of motives on: November 24, 2017, 04:25:08 PM
If you don't have too much money to buy Bitcoins, yes, you need to earn it step by step. Try to find jobs at Services section, good promotions at Micro Earnings section. This way you can earn some satoshis here and there and accumulate it even more.

Don't worry about having 1 full Bitcoin, what matters is its price compared to fiat, some millions of satoshis are already a nice amount. Even with big amounts of money you shouldn't jump into "trading games" without knowledge about them, you will eventually lose money. Focus in holding BTCs, much better.
959  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Solution For Services Who Want To Adopt Bitcoin on: November 24, 2017, 04:12:01 PM
In a way, it's already there. People can sign up for a Bitcoin related debit card and then just deposit a certain number of coins in their account, which from that point will be their balance. It will allow you to pay almost everywhere in the world, and in some cases even withdraw cash money through ATM's and stuff. If we look at businesses accepting Bitcoin through third party payment processors such as BitPay, and you include a proper fee, and at the same time your transaction value isn't higher than for example $50-$100 (there is a limit, but not exactly sure what hight), it mostly will not require you to wait for that first confirmation. If you include a lower overall fee, then you will have to wait. The lower the fee, the more exposed they are to double spend attacks.

The debit card is an interesting option, but this way we still need fiat, I believe the idea is to skip completely fiat and use only Bitcoin, only this way the transaction will be fully decentralized. If each site gave the chance to each user have his balance on site, we could send money to the balance with low fee days before you would need to buy something.

For an example: I want to go to a restaurant on Saturday, then days ago I can already fund my restaurant's account with BTC with low fee transaction, it will be enough time to have my balance updated until the day I need the money. Then the restaurant just debits the bill later, instantly, after the dinner.

Nice feature for airlines businesses too that force you to use credit cards...
960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: healthy discussion about DICE on: November 24, 2017, 02:27:15 AM
The game works against people who aren't playing big and is set to block the richest, that's my personal idea.
If you had huge money to spend you theoretically could play the system even by martingaling 50 bets in a row, but you'd need a lot of money to do it. Casinos know that and are adding max bet limits. So if you are there to play low and can't go big after a number of small losses in a row you just can't get your money back and they can safely keep you at 49% win ratio and still make money.
It's not only an internet casino thing. I've seen pro players being kicked out of real casinos because they can't just limit your bets there so the only way is to stop you from playing.

To be able to lose 50 bets in a row you would need an insane amount of money it wouldn't even be worth it to bet in the first place. Even with bitcoins if you start with 1 satoshi bet, 40 bets in a row would need 5400 bitcoins and 50 in a row would need around 5.5 million bitcoins. Even if you have the money, keep in mind that you are betting 1 satoshi so even with a bot betting, you would need to bet for months and months just to win some money that compared to your 5.5 million bitcoins is still meaningless. As I showed above it's also better to just bet half of it at 33% and if you lose bet the other half at 24.75% because this gives you total odds 49.58% which is a bit higher than just 49.5% that you would get by making a single bet and you save all the time that would take betting at 1 satoshi.

The gambler can have thousands or millions of Bitcoins, at some point he will touch the maximum bet allowed by the house and that is the end of the streak. So he will need to continue betting the maximum allowed, or he will need to start again... Progressively losing money without chances of recovering it. And you can change the winning chance to 90% or 1%, doesn't matter, the result will be the same on long term.

Unless you have infinite money which is not possible, having a lot of money wont make you win, casinos have a maximum bet to cover their own bankroll not to stop martingale from working. The problem is that if someone with a lot of money comes in and makes a few martingale bets with a very big starting bet, the chances of winning are pretty good for him if he only plays a few bets and then leaves so casinos put a limit on red/black type of bets to ensure the max bet is not too big forcing the player that has a lot of money to start off with a small bet. If you were to play for a long enough time, you would lose even with 100 billion dollars, eventually...

Yes, it's always very profitable for the casino, with or without infinite bankroll.  Cheesy
But people still believe they can make a good job playing with their mix of strategies. Well, for me this time have already passed, for me makes no sense anymore to play Dice game knowing these facts. Better to move to sports betting with a good tipper if the intention is to make profit.
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