Found this on a Cooler Master review. Is this related?

Inrush current or switch-on surge refers to the maximum, instantaneous input-current drawn by an electrical device when first turned on. Because of the charging current of the APFC capacitor(s), PSUs produce large inrush-current right as they are turned on. Large inrush current can cause the tripping of circuit breakers and fuses and may also damage switches, relays and bridge rectifiers; as a result, the lower the inrush current of a PSU right as it is turned on, the better.

Kraken told me 3 weeks or so to be active with Fidor.
Bitcoin.de is still not ready with them but getting closer.

Definitely HUGE for Europe. I mean would you rather have a Slovenian Bank (Bitstamp) or German?
Stamp should team with Fidor, really.

Too many people lost too much money. What is the word on a class action lawsuit?
There must be a few in the works.

IAS

Pre-orders? Isn't the discount for new orders? It is a tough one, when ever a company offers a discount, the customers who ordered the day before and sooner are pissed. I ordered an erupter at 270 Euro and 3 days later they were at half that. (And I didn't get it from GB, so no discount coupon). Anyway, maybe I don't understand your complaint, but isn't offering a discount pretty much always like this? (Meaning from one date on? Not retroactively).

IAS

I've made the mistake of thinking on a 12hr clock in 24hr clock land. Almost missed my train.

Does anyone know when the partnership with the German Fidor bank is complete? For those of us in Europe it should allow for quicker SEPA transfers (I would imagine).

IAS

I'm just looking for a difficult predictor to compliment what is already out there. It seems you are taking the hashing projections quite deep and so you probably will have one of the more accurate difficulty predictors. As far as timeline, it would be nice to have a 4 week projection. But what you are already doing with the range can allow you to take it out further (but perhaps that doesn't serve a real useful purpose so far out). That range (leeway with your blue shadows looking forward) is great.

Thanks for the quick reply btw,
IAS

Thanks for sharing this. Quite interesting.

Are you planning on also publishing the equivalent in the Difficulty rate?
If not, would it be difficult to do that or ?

I ask because I'm looking for some new difficulty predictors. Any suggestions?

Thx,
IAS

I wonder if they suped it up some? I know Burnin supposedly was shooting for getting the Bitfury chips (2Ghash/s) to 5Ghash/s using an external clock or something like that. There are some tricks out there...

Same here. I bought some BTC and also took a chance on a group buy and here with a Drillbit miniplane.
But, as we have discussed before, it is the taking part. Buying e.g. 15 BTC's would have been the "wise" investment as perhaps that much in mining nets you anywhere from 6-15BTC, but the fun,... priceless.

Remember, we are TAKING PART in the greatest social experiment in our recorded history (at least one not done by governments - Centralized fractional reserve banking  , which is collapsing before our eyes.)

I almost bought a blade but thought not to take any more chances with hardware (until I actually get some or the GB's start mining!) Those blades won't make a profit though, will they?
Still waiting on my 7Ghash/s Jalapeno. Ordered June 2nd or so and at the rate BFL is going it will arrive in December and mine 1BTC in total...

Anyway, go Drillbit, get hashing!
IAS

Missed that last part - Thanks Vulgartrendkill 

Agree with your comments as well Barntech. I forgot the company name regarding the erupters and blades I mentioned, but yes, they sure helped gettings things going in the right direction (and they were charging a ton prior - BUT they saw the market and adjusted. I hope more follow.

Well the bolded is great news and new to me. It makes sense. Even going back a month ago, look at how the prices on erupter blades were slashed - That KILLED BFL's Jalapeno's THE SAME DAY. I could buy one the same day for around what I paid for my 7Ghash/s Jalapeno AND get 10+ Ghash/s.(And since I paid with BTC I have no chance of a refund as Josh at BFL and BFL are not even responding to refund requests.) Most recently KNC Miner upped the 400Ghash/s units to 500-576Ghash/s range. When Barntech was selling the 1st boards, they were cheaper per Ghash/s than EVERYONE's. Not saying that is why chip prices were upped, but it is good to now be out of the firing line, if you know what I mean. Anyway, I hope it benefits both us and Barntech for taking a chance on eachother in a sense.

Yeah, KNC shipped things quickly. But I think you might know that what they did was unheard of. The design and implimentation for a scale that large was just insane and then they got the chips one day and basically were shipping the next (And Josh at BFL said "you will be waiting a long time" regarding KNC Miner - didn't think it was possible - great to see :-) ). Regarding the problem - Not an excuse for Firmware that lacks, but at least a good sign that "Look what we can do." Not to be personal with BFL, but they have F'd so many people over. And Josh's unprofessionalism along with that has all but cost them repeat customers. They will need to really do something special to survive. He posted over on their forum (regarding delays) "We are a hardware company". That made no sense...

I really hope that Barntech can do something and be allowed to do something going forward. People and companies like BFL should be pushed aside. Again, not meaning to make this personal, but well, it is...

IAS

To be fair, it's the same all over and who is actually delivering on time? KNC Miner has been cool but are a little behind. Bitfury is on schedule I believe. BFL is a NO GO. Avalon we don't trust. Etc.

I see Barntech is working on a price drop now - very nice of you and I hope Bitfury cooperates!

I think DIY'ers are between a rock and a hard place. The companies that make chips also sell machines (for the most part) and they don't want to undercut themselves. (Yes, sort of a monopoly)
Just look at the hash rates between companies - they are trying to keep it tight it seems. KNC Miner recently changed that but they are in a unique position to. Hopefully that lights a fire under Bitfury and the other companies. Competition here is great. Hopefully more work for Barntech.

Hoping our chips come late this week or early next! Keep on keepin on Barntech,
IAS

Anyone?

Anyone know what the cut-off date was for October deliveries?

I thought it was mid August but I see a mixture I think. (And was KNC accepting reservations before the payment date?)
I'm in a group buy here with order #4999 on a Jupiter and we all pretty much think an October delivery.

Thoughts appreciated,
IAS

Thanks so much for that! I'll keep it handy. But I think I better spend the extra money and just get a power supply with the right plug, amps and watts at 5V.
Hopefully Barntech has some numbers in the next week or so regarding Hashing draw and such.

As it is I will spend 30 for that small PS, plus cables, plus another small PS for the fan. It will add up. Hope that helped others.  

Appreciated,
IAS

I'm curious when the cut-off date was for October deliveries. I emailed KNC with that question.
Anyone know, that might tell us where we stand?

If you look at the KNC Miner thread, you can see approximate order numbers shipping now and those about to ship.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=170332.13820

Thanks, my neighbor is an ace at electronics. I wonder how complicated it is to wire an ATX cable though? (How many cables are there?)

IAS

I just checked quite a few of the PS's rated in the 450 - 550w range.
Almost all of them have the 5v part rated at 20-25 amps and supplying 100 watts max. This is just cutting it too close. (At least until we get the overclocking measurements from Barntech hashing.)
I don't have the knowledge here that I wish I had but we have a couple of weeks still to order a PS and Barntech still has to do hashing tests - that is where our information is going to come from. I want to overclock and I'm pretty sure due to the difficulty increasing so much, most of us here do as well.

The bad thing is that the higher wattage PS's really lose efficiency when only running 100 watts. They drop down 5%-10% and the price goes up 15% or so.
I wonder if that link Barntech posted is actually the best power supply to use?
How efficient is it?
It takes 120v or 240v and steps it down to 5v and up to 40 amps. http://www.ebay.com/itm/270863166827?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (I don't think this one steps it down from 12v to 5v, but I'm sure there is one to do that. But why not just get one of these and the correct connector?) Then get something to power a 12v fan? Anyone? As long as the voltage is regulated tightly, we should be ok for overclocking I believe.)

Are we using the ATX plugs on these boards? (Think I saw that). Are ATX connectors for both 12v and 5v? I thought they were for powering computers at 12v? (Sorry, not knowledgable here).
Can we just get the correct plug in and put in on the PS Barntech posted above?

Thanks,
IAS

Thanks for sharing the B2B, B2C, etc. stuff. Makes sense.

I see from your sig (and knowledge of Germany) that you are here too! (Good English) ehehe

It is going to be interesting to see where the mining business model develops to (in light of all the problems). I think we can be sure that the risk has to be lowered.
I wonder if Cloudhashing (or some variance of that) will be in the cards???
I also wonder what is going to come from the BFL and Avalon scandal (yes, I call it that and am sure most agree with me). The KNC thing much less so.

Living in Germany but not being German gives me a different perspective. I understand Germans have the highest standards when it comes to regulations, rules, standards and things of that sort.
So, I am further excited to see what happens with bitcoin.de's partnership with Fedor bank (and if they will ever allow Americans like me to partake!)

IAS