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February 04, 2016, 11:24:46 PM
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Roving gangs of ficki ficki rapists would be stopped by average males, I have no doubts about that, you guys must have estrogen in the water..
No they wouldn't. I know what the modern American male is like. Guess what? The guys in the former East Germany are actually physically tougher than you.

Americans really are full of BS. In a disarmed American city, only the police would be able to stop these roving gangs. The average American urban or suburban male would shit himself. We both know that, so please stop fooling yourself about that. It's very easy taking the piss from a safe distance, especially if you live in a rural area.

I'm not American, I wont get into a pissing contest with you but muslims gangs have not made any progress here, they set off race riots for beating up two life guards 11 years ago.

What more with gang rapes..

It's a completely different culture which has only grown stronger despite globalist efforts to water it down.

And no, we have not been disarmed the majority of firearms surrendered in 1997 were not black semi auto death machines..
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February 05, 2016, 12:22:31 AM
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It's a completely different culture which has only grown stronger despite globalist efforts to water it down.

And no, we have not been disarmed the majority of firearms surrendered in 1997 were not black semi auto death machines..

Interesting. I like to learn more at the appropriate time when I can visit Australia again.

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February 05, 2016, 12:30:12 AM
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http://www.foaa.com.au/ammunition-to-send-to-politicans/buy-back-statistics-and-australia-stock-of-firearms-compiled-in-1998/

I wouldn't know where to source illegal firearms though, I am a wholesome law abiding citizen of the commonwealth.

Meanwhile in Austfailia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3433148/T-shirt-cannon-banned-classed-Category-B-FIREARM.html
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February 05, 2016, 12:38:52 AM
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Another excellent piece, trollerc.  Thanks for posting it.

Europe is on the edge of becoming a neutered country, incapable of maintaining its society along the norms of "The West".  5 - 10 years after, they will become Islamicized.  It's already starting to happen, yet the Socialist Retards running EVERYTHING over there are hypnotized...

I wonder, trollerc, if the USA and/or Australia will allow their women to be harassed like that.  My guess is "no", but who knows.  At least in the West or South in the USA the Musloids would get an immediate ticket to their heaven, where their 72 goats await them.

Again, while I comprehend the arguments (and agree with some eg the idiocy of the PC movement), the seeming thought process that supposes some kind of preordained muslim plan to over run Europe is myopic[...]

Ahem...

[...]Even those in the past who rebutted me with, "but the miners can be in every country and the USA can't control every country", have had to eat their words now that we've shown that China has monopolized mining and is even lying about their justification for 51% attacking Bitcoin. I was warning about Tragedy of the Commons centralization of control in 2013 and everyone said I was loony[1] and now even Germany is instituting the BigT lie to implement capital controls[2] (why do you think Merkel and the Troika allowed 1.1 million muslims to invade Germany! it was to make the people feel unsafe!). We the masses will never be able to have privacy from the government (from our society) until we all decide that priority is the most important and force our will on the government. That isn't going to happen for the masses until after they suffer through some totalitarianism in the 2017 - 2032 timeframe. Some of the masses are aware enough to perhaps not like NSA snooping (yet some support it as they support the military for their safety, nationalistic pride, and dominance of the USA as the reserve currency), but it isn't the most important priority that they are willing to fight for with all their effort and zeal. The Chinese (not all perhaps but enough do) actually support the single party Communist system, because afaik they think that people need to be disciplined and they think this provides a more harmonious society.

[1]Transactions Withholding Attack
Spiraling Transaction Fees destruction of Bitcoin
[2]

tabnloz your bleeding heart is understandable and perhaps even admirable, until you understand scientifically that if we allowforce too much change too fast, we destroy resiliency and fitness.

The action in Europe was not driven by a self-annealing free market, but rather by a conniving top-down powers-that-be (in synergy with the desire of most people for socialism, i.e. the Iron Law of Political Economics). And they are leading the world into Dark Age. I am attacking this problem from the angle of social networks and crypto currency.

TPTB,

That is a point I feel makes sense. No one knows the correct balance or the amount of change that effectively tips the scales, but it seems likely that the current migration is too much, too fast and there is bound to be a massive amount of friction. The crux of my point is that this flood of people did not happen in isolation; it comes as a result of sustained, decades long, conflict in the region (physical, geopolitical and economic). Do you agree?

Gaddafi had even exalted in communications with Nato that the attempts to destabilise his regime would spell doom for Europe - leading to an uninterrupted inflow of North African migrants and increased presence of terrorist cells. He wasn't wrong but still got a bayonet in the backside for his trouble and the US got Benghazi (a whole other story). So we have seen conflict /overthrows / destabilisation in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Egypt, Afghanistan and Iran. Where once there were 'friendly' dictators, now there are power vacuums and increased terrorism.




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February 05, 2016, 07:25:04 AM
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No one knows the correct balance or the amount of change that effectively tips the scales, but it seems likely that the current migration is too much, too fast and there is bound to be a massive amount of friction. The crux of my point is that this flood of people did not happen in isolation; it comes as a result of sustained, decades long, conflict in the region (physical, geopolitical and economic). Do you agree?

Yes, but it is not only due geo-political conflict but the root problem is socialism. I am all for the free movement of people without passports and borders, but not when the government will offer free welfare to every migrant (USA has this problem also, except luckily the Latinos are reasonably hard working).

If the migrants weren't coddled by the State, they wouldn't have the incentive to invade. If the people had the right to bear arms and privately funded security forces (not provided by the State), the migrants wouldn't misbehave.

But it goes much deeper than that. Include the Western governments propping up puppet regimes in the Middle East which created all kinds of imbalances.

Note the position of (most of) the Middle East countries on this chart (the corrupt State powers-that-be have been propping up failure with winks and handshakes):

I think Hidalgo makes a pretty good job at clearing it out at least in my head the Info Matter Energy trinity interactions
if you havent watch his first talk do so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cXe8w62_ow

Excellent and I like how he speaks very quickly so I don't get bored. The chart at 20:20 is amazing. The Middle East and Australia need to tumble economically.

[...]

Readers make sure you view the aforementioned chart (in the video at 20:20, not the chart below), as it explains why India and China will rise after 2020 and lead the world. Hildago's academic research validates Martin Armstrong's long-standing prediction about this and MA's famous chart:

[...]

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February 06, 2016, 12:31:24 AM
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http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/

I would be interested to find more historical data on economic complexity and compare it to Armstrongs models.
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February 06, 2016, 12:35:43 AM
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No one knows the correct balance or the amount of change that effectively tips the scales, but it seems likely that the current migration is too much, too fast and there is bound to be a massive amount of friction. The crux of my point is that this flood of people did not happen in isolation; it comes as a result of sustained, decades long, conflict in the region (physical, geopolitical and economic). Do you agree?

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Yes, but it is not only due geo-political conflict but the root problem is socialism. I am all for the free movement of people without passports and borders, but not when the government will offer free welfare to every migrant (USA has this problem also, except luckily the Latinos are reasonably hard working).

Are you drawing a bow between socialism and saying it requires the need for continuous political, military and resource conquest? Haven't explored that, but If not I'd disagree.

edit: (additional thought) not that i don't agree too much free stuff is a bad thing - it is. i think there is a place for some level of welfare but when too many promises run into too much debt, as is happening now, unless the population take their medicine, things can get ugly.
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I am all for the free movement of people without passports and borders, but not when the government will offer free welfare to every migrant (USA has this problem also, except luckily the Latinos are reasonably hard working).

If the migrants weren't coddled by the State, they wouldn't have the incentive to invade. If the people had the right to bear arms and privately funded security forces (not provided by the State), the migrants wouldn't misbehave.


This depends on perspective - I think that most people who migrate do so in search of opportunity, as seen with the Gold Rush, Australia's Ten Pound Poms, US Frontiersmen. I don't think they migrate with the sole purpose of sponging off the government. The opportunity of a better life is a great incentive, as is the responsibility of providing for a family. Obviously there are some that do sponge. What I see is that it is the children of migrants, ie second generation, that often struggle.

As for the right to bear arms / private armies, this point makes me think that if the population had private armies there would probably be no support for invading another country anyway, as Western invasion is usually, ironically, rationalised by saying we need to invade them because they are coming to get us. So logically, it would be much harder to instill fear of the bogeyman in the population - "The XYZ are coming to get us" ..."Well, so? They'll have to get through Bob x 20 first to get near me." Ergo, if there is no support for the West to invade under another false pretence, there will no flood of migrants fleeing war. The initial migrant incentive to migrate is probably opportunity but as things deteriorate it becomes getting the hell away from dictatorships, persecution and conflict ie safety. The longer these conditions exists in concert, the more the incentive exists. Examples being the ME where millions have fled to Lebanon & Turkey since 2012, hoping the conflicts would end either way, and it wasn't until 2015 that the flow became a torrent as camps overflowed, more people left and some in holding camps stopped waiting and went for Europe too.

Unfortunately the media and government put all these people in a similar basket for a narrative simplicity that enrages the gen pop: "illegals", "terrorists", "they aren't in danger", "they have money", "why don't they just go to the closest place (no matter if they are Sunni/Shia/Hazara/Yatzidi)". This generalisation encourages subconscious support of the wars that make people flee.




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But it goes much deeper than that. Include the Western governments propping up puppet regimes in the Middle East which created all kinds of imbalances.

Agree, big part of it, if not the main reason. Sunni minority rule when removed equals chaos. Shia rule when undermined equals chaos. Proxy armies everywhere. Saudi, US, Russia, Iran, Turkey, Lebanon etc etc

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Note the position of (most of) the Middle East countries on this chart (the corrupt State powers-that-be have been propping up failure with winks and handshakes):

I think Hidalgo makes a pretty good job at clearing it out at least in my head the Info Matter Energy trinity interactions
if you havent watch his first talk do so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cXe8w62_ow

Excellent and I like how he speaks very quickly so I don't get bored. The chart at 20:20 is amazing. The Middle East and Australia need to tumble economically.

[...]

Readers make sure you view the aforementioned chart (in the video at 20:20, not the chart below), as it explains why India and China will rise after 2020 and lead the world. Hildago's academic research validates Martin Armstrong's long-standing prediction about this and MA's famous chart:

[...]

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February 06, 2016, 02:13:00 AM
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great post!!! Thanks for telling us!!!
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February 06, 2016, 02:27:10 AM
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Roving gangs of ficki ficki rapists would be stopped by average males, I have no doubts about that, you guys must have estrogen in the water..
No they wouldn't. I know what the modern American male is like. Guess what? The guys in the former East Germany are actually physically tougher than you.

Americans really are full of BS. In a disarmed American city, only the police would be able to stop these roving gangs. The average American urban or suburban male would shit himself. We both know that, so please stop fooling yourself about that. It's very easy taking the piss from a safe distance, especially if you live in a rural area.


I don't know Corazon79...

I know lots of people who are armed, some of them with concealed weapons (need a permit).  TPTB above also made the point that any American men who got smacked around playing (US-style) football would likely not be afraid to go at it with Muslims should they pull the same crap on American women (or old people -- see recent video from Munich).

MAYBE the first time men would not intervene, out of shock or whatever.  But as soon as it made the news (it would), then the following Muslim assault would be ruthlessly dealt with by, yes, American men.

At least in "Flyover Country", perhaps not in NYC or California or Massachussetts...
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But it goes much deeper than that. Include the Western governments propping up puppet regimes in the Middle East which created all kinds of imbalances.

Agree, big part of it, if not the main reason. Sunni minority rule when removed equals chaos. Shia rule when undermined equals chaos. Proxy armies everywhere. Saudi, US, Russia, Iran, Turkey, Lebanon etc etc

I am very curious to hear how you are omniscient[1] because you were able to make the speed-of-light infinite[2] and thus you know what decentralized annealing would have done otherwise.

You won't understand my point, yet it is a rebuttal and I don't have time to teach any more.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg13704711#msg13704711

[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg13705829#msg13705829

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But it goes much deeper than that. Include the Western governments propping up puppet regimes in the Middle East which created all kinds of imbalances.

Agree, big part of it, if not the main reason. Sunni minority rule when removed equals chaos. Shia rule when undermined equals chaos. Proxy armies everywhere. Saudi, US, Russia, Iran, Turkey, Lebanon etc etc

I am very curious to hear how you are omniscient[1] because you were able to make the speed-of-light infinite[2] and thus you know what decentralized annealing would have done otherwise.

You won't understand my point, yet it is a rebuttal and I don't have time to teach any more.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg13704711#msg13704711

[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg13705829#msg13705829

1. Obviously I'm not
2. Ditto


I probably don't, but I'm assuming it is: problems are deeper than geopolitical because of man's attempts to control the uncontrollable. Neither I, nor anyone else, can ascertain what outcome will occur from any given action (and therefore my "when removed = " statement is untrue.) Only the invisible hand can (the decentralised annealing you are referring to?), and Western governments in attempting to control have been supporting countries that are unbalanced (unsophisticated as a whole 'computer', yet making a fortune) and relying on one thing (oil....or mining etc). Like markets they are destined, or rather need, to revert to the mean, hence the chaos as the process takes place.




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February 06, 2016, 03:23:08 PM
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Economic Totalitarianism And The War Against Cash. As a result of global low interest rate policies, traditional savings vehicles, especially savings accounts, have become less and less attractive.
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Economic Totalitarianism And The War Against Cash. As a result of global low interest rate policies, traditional savings vehicles, especially savings accounts, have become less and less attractive.



Yes.  We are now arriving at the point where CA$H at home is safer than being left as electrons at the bank (risk of "bail-ins" and/or bank failures) as well as more profitable ("NIRP" means that CA$H earns "more" than bank deposits minus the fees).

These are very peculiar times in the financial markets.  Often when things get weird, it means something BAD may happen.  Only this time, .gov may be an active enemy...

The "War on Cash" is a perfect example of how .gov is working hard to screw us out of our money.

Beware.
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But it goes much deeper than that. Include the Western governments propping up puppet regimes in the Middle East which created all kinds of imbalances.

Agree, big part of it, if not the main reason. Sunni minority rule when removed equals chaos. Shia rule when undermined equals chaos. Proxy armies everywhere. Saudi, US, Russia, Iran, Turkey, Lebanon etc etc

I am very curious to hear how you are omniscient[1] because you were able to make the speed-of-light infinite[2] and thus you know what decentralized annealing would have done otherwise.

You won't understand my point, yet it is a rebuttal and I don't have time to teach any more.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg13704711#msg13704711

[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355212.msg13705829#msg13705829

1. Obviously I'm not
2. Ditto


I probably don't, but I'm assuming it is: problems are deeper than geopolitical because of man's attempts to control the uncontrollable. Neither I, nor anyone else, can ascertain what outcome will occur from any given action (and therefore my "when removed = " statement is untrue.) Only the invisible hand can (the decentralised annealing you are referring to?), and Western governments in attempting to control have been supporting countries that are unbalanced (unsophisticated as a whole 'computer', yet making a fortune) and relying on one thing (oil....or mining etc). Like markets they are destined, or rather need, to revert to the mean, hence the chaos as the process takes place.

Good. Thanks.

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http://thestar.com/#/article/business/2016/01/26/nervous-canadians-hoarding-record-amounts-of-money-in-cash.html
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Corrected link: http://www.thestar.com/business/2016/01/26/nervous-canadians-hoarding-record-amounts-of-money-in-cash.html

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http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/microsoft-cortana-sexual-harassment/

Fines for offending your virtual assistant!? when.  Wink
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http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/microsoft-cortana-sexual-harassment/

Fines for offending your virtual assistant!? when.  Wink

The hacking of Cortana's personality will probably end up equivalently ridiculous but in the opposing direction of attitude ("can you say bend over and ask which hole...").   Tongue

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February 10, 2016, 12:33:25 PM
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China kidnapping dissidents in foreign lands:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2016/02/09/chinas-message-dissenters-flee-if-you-dare/80043556/#

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/10/hong-kongs-business-community-freaking-out-over-chinas-crackdown

China appears determined to prevent a contagion of bad news that could send their currency and economy tumbling.

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On the good guy front: http://thehackernews.com/2016/02/hacking-wireless-router.html

If only there were a virus that could distribute itself when someone is trying to spy on you--it would be like a hot naked woman walking into a biker bar with a sign on her chest that reads "I had razor blades surgically implanted in all my orifices, wanna fuck?"

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