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Hatred might be too strong a word, especially if the criticism of religion (and I mean here organized religion, not any simple belief), opposing it and decrying its evils, can be demagogically conflated with hatred towards believers, a fallacious identification many use in order to create an emotional confrontation beyond facts, arguments and evidence.
So rather than "hating" I would say "strongly oppose". And some (or many) atheists oppose, criticize and expose religion for the same reason that many theists do. Belief or unbelief in a deity is not a prerequisite for being aware of the many wrongs and evils of religion, the hatred it induces in people and its sad results.
Atheism is a philosophical and rational stance: atheists cannot believe in any deity because of the lack of evidence on its existence. Anti-religionism or the criticism of religion is also a moral stance based on the harm that belief has on people's lives, on societies and on human dignity, on the worst teachings of religion and on the suffering both of the faithful (as in the case of children raped by priests) and of the faithful's victims (as in the massacres of Rwanda and the genocide by ISIS/Daesh).
A "belief in what isn't science" is not a good definition of religion. My love of Bach and Hieronymus Bosch is certainly not science (at least as of now), but it is not religion. Mysteries to be solved by science are not religion, either. Religion implies the belief beyond reason of a set of preternatural statements, obtained through divine revelation and which are not subject to criticism and which are imposed upon the faithful and/or the unfaithful.
It isn't hatred of religion. It is opposition to organized and formal religion. However, when atheists say that they themselves don't have religion in their atheism, they are either ignorant of the dictionary definition of "religion," or they are liars.  |
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March 17, 2017, 10:17:39 PM |
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BADecker principle 1 - if the proof isnt good enough ignore it and request real proof. Your links are not proof nor do they lead to proof of a god... please provide proof. Poor little stats. Since the science law listed in my proofs is something that can't be refuted, all that people like stats use political science to attempt to out-talk the proof, or else, simply, to stick head in sand like ostrich. Thanks for your support of God. But then, you can't help it, can you? There is nothing that can go against God. God is such a solid rock, that any who try to go against Him, will only find that they are harming or destroying themselves. Sorry mate..... im still waiting for you to provide proof. Your attempt to provide proof lacks the evidence needed. When this is pointed out you revert to comments to shift away from the reality that you have no proof. It shouldnt be hard BADecker..... if your god is ao powerful surely he can show himself. I say rocks are real and i can pick one up. There is your proof. Keep with your word games young fella.... ill keep denouncing them. |
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March 18, 2017, 12:53:46 AM |
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I don't hate any religion but yeah, some facts and rituals are quite unfair. Almost all religions have different rules for men and women. I don't think any religion should differentiate between two genders.
My religion as well has some facts I don't agree with. "If someone strikes you on the cheek, offer the other cheek as well." "If one doesn't go to the Church on every Sunday, he is a sinner".
Religion shouldn't make someone lose their self respect or make anything compulsory for a person else they are called sinners. I'm not an atheist but do criticize religion at times.
This is not true at all. Many people attend church but they are sinners. We cannot say that religion can save you. Because, no religion really can really save you. its a matter of faith in God. If you always go to church and belonged to many religions but still, you do wicked things. Maybe your walking in a wrong path. |
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BADecker
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March 18, 2017, 01:25:21 AM |
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BADecker principle 1 - if the proof isnt good enough ignore it and request real proof. Your links are not proof nor do they lead to proof of a god... please provide proof. Poor little stats. Since the science law listed in my proofs is something that can't be refuted, all that people like stats use political science to attempt to out-talk the proof, or else, simply, to stick head in sand like ostrich. Thanks for your support of God. But then, you can't help it, can you? There is nothing that can go against God. God is such a solid rock, that any who try to go against Him, will only find that they are harming or destroying themselves. Sorry mate..... im still waiting for you to provide proof. Your attempt to provide proof lacks the evidence needed. When this is pointed out you revert to comments to shift away from the reality that you have no proof. It shouldnt be hard BADecker..... if your god is ao powerful surely he can show himself. I say rocks are real and i can pick one up. There is your proof. Keep with your word games young fella.... ill keep denouncing them. Providing proof isn't what you are waiting for. The proof is there. If you were shown other proof, you would figure a way around accepting is as proof, just like you don't accept the proof provided. The rock you are talking about is proof for the existence of God. How? Make one. Not only can't you make one, but neither you nor anyone else has any knowledge of how a rock came about. But when you examine the make-up of the molecules and atoms and chemistry of a simple rock, you find that it is marvelous. Sure, a rock isn't as marvelous as life, and far less marvelous than intelligence, but the rock is a miracle of existence. The only thing powerful enough to make a rock, fits our definition of God. |
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March 18, 2017, 05:16:12 AM |
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BADecker principle 1 - if the proof isnt good enough ignore it and request real proof. Your links are not proof nor do they lead to proof of a god... please provide proof. Poor little stats. Since the science law listed in my proofs is something that can't be refuted, all that people like stats use political science to attempt to out-talk the proof, or else, simply, to stick head in sand like ostrich. Thanks for your support of God. But then, you can't help it, can you? There is nothing that can go against God. God is such a solid rock, that any who try to go against Him, will only find that they are harming or destroying themselves. Sorry mate..... im still waiting for you to provide proof. Your attempt to provide proof lacks the evidence needed. When this is pointed out you revert to comments to shift away from the reality that you have no proof. It shouldnt be hard BADecker..... if your god is ao powerful surely he can show himself. I say rocks are real and i can pick one up. There is your proof. Keep with your word games young fella.... ill keep denouncing them. Providing proof isn't what you are waiting for. The proof is there. If you were shown other proof, you would figure a way around accepting is as proof, just like you don't accept the proof provided. The rock you are talking about is proof for the existence of God. How? Make one. Not only can't you make one, but neither you nor anyone else has any knowledge of how a rock came about. But when you examine the make-up of the molecules and atoms and chemistry of a simple rock, you find that it is marvelous. Sure, a rock isn't as marvelous as life, and far less marvelous than intelligence, but the rock is a miracle of existence. The only thing powerful enough to make a rock, fits our definition of God. Everything that is alive and not alive on earth is very complex and has processes, and everything interacts with each other. And if any organism is examined under a microscope, then we will see the amazing complexity of everything that surrounds us, and therefore we think that this is the creation of someone's hands or invisible mind. A person needs an explanation in everything he encounters. |
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March 18, 2017, 05:56:26 AM |
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BADecker principle 1 - if the proof isnt good enough ignore it and request real proof. Your links are not proof nor do they lead to proof of a god... please provide proof. Poor little stats. Since the science law listed in my proofs is something that can't be refuted, all that people like stats use political science to attempt to out-talk the proof, or else, simply, to stick head in sand like ostrich. Thanks for your support of God. But then, you can't help it, can you? There is nothing that can go against God. God is such a solid rock, that any who try to go against Him, will only find that they are harming or destroying themselves. Sorry mate..... im still waiting for you to provide proof. Your attempt to provide proof lacks the evidence needed. When this is pointed out you revert to comments to shift away from the reality that you have no proof. It shouldnt be hard BADecker..... if your god is ao powerful surely he can show himself. I say rocks are real and i can pick one up. There is your proof. Keep with your word games young fella.... ill keep denouncing them. Providing proof isn't what you are waiting for. The proof is there. If you were shown other proof, you would figure a way around accepting is as proof, just like you don't accept the proof provided. The rock you are talking about is proof for the existence of God. How? Make one. Not only can't you make one, but neither you nor anyone else has any knowledge of how a rock came about. But when you examine the make-up of the molecules and atoms and chemistry of a simple rock, you find that it is marvelous. Sure, a rock isn't as marvelous as life, and far less marvelous than intelligence, but the rock is a miracle of existence. The only thing powerful enough to make a rock, fits our definition of God. @BADecker https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LimestoneThank you for proving your god does not exist. |
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March 18, 2017, 09:15:57 AM |
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Atheist deny the existence of God or a supreme being and since all Religions and this includes the occultist and even Satanist shows that there is Someone greater than what we can imagine. This goes contrary to the beliefs of the Atheist. Satanist being in the Devil who is a supreme being who is constantly at war with God. This shows that this world isn't just what we see but its spiritual but they dont seem to understand which i believe is due to something that happened to them. They believed at one time but when they wanted something really bad it just didnt happen.
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March 18, 2017, 11:32:52 AM |
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Atheist deny the existence of God or a supreme being and since all Religions and this includes the occultist and even Satanist shows that there is Someone greater than what we can imagine. This goes contrary to the beliefs of the Atheist. Satanist being in the Devil who is a supreme being who is constantly at war with God. This shows that this world isn't just what we see but its spiritual but they dont seem to understand which i believe is due to something that happened to them. They believed at one time but when they wanted something really bad it just didnt happen.
It turns out that an atheist is even worse than Satanists. If Satanists recognize the existence of God and Satan, then atheists generally reject the existence of everything that a person can believe. I just do not understand how such people live and what they think about. |
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March 18, 2017, 11:44:20 AM |
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Atheist deny the existence of God or a supreme being and since all Religions and this includes the occultist and even Satanist shows that there is Someone greater than what we can imagine. This goes contrary to the beliefs of the Atheist. Satanist being in the Devil who is a supreme being who is constantly at war with God. This shows that this world isn't just what we see but its spiritual but they dont seem to understand which i believe is due to something that happened to them. They believed at one time but when they wanted something really bad it just didnt happen.
It turns out that an atheist is even worse than Satanists. If Satanists recognize the existence of God and Satan, then atheists generally reject the existence of everything that a person can believe. I just do not understand how such people live and what they think about. Believing in something that is not real is a sign of a mental disorder. You are delusional. Atheists are not. |
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March 18, 2017, 12:37:44 PM |
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Atheist deny the existence of God or a supreme being and since all Religions and this includes the occultist and even Satanist shows that there is Someone greater than what we can imagine. This goes contrary to the beliefs of the Atheist. Satanist being in the Devil who is a supreme being who is constantly at war with God. This shows that this world isn't just what we see but its spiritual but they dont seem to understand which i believe is due to something that happened to them. They believed at one time but when they wanted something really bad it just didnt happen.
It turns out that an atheist is even worse than Satanists. If Satanists recognize the existence of God and Satan, then atheists generally reject the existence of everything that a person can believe. I just do not understand how such people live and what they think about. Believing in something that is not real is a sign of a mental disorder. You are delusional. Atheists are not. Talk all you want. We see through you. Atheists aren't even honest enough to look at the definition of "religion" and see that atheism is a religion. But if they do, they aren't even honest enough to admit it. In fact, atheists are so deluded that they think that they know enough about the universe so that hey are absolutely certain that no God can exist. The truth is that they barely know how to wipe their own runny nose. So, atheists are either deluded, or stupid, or liars. Become an agnostic so that you at least have a little credibility. What? You think that my posting in response to you gives you some authenticity? You are such a chucklehead. |
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March 18, 2017, 01:35:49 PM |
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I bet Jesus looks down at BADLogic and thinks...
"That's my boy... trolling those atheists... good job kid"
Bazinga!
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March 18, 2017, 01:42:06 PM |
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I'm an atheist, but I have no hatred of religion. I have a distrust of the fairy tales that are told in the Bible is the hatred of Muslims which in the name of religion killing people.
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March 18, 2017, 02:05:13 PM |
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I bet Jesus looks down at BADLogic and thinks...
"That's my boy... trolling those atheists... good job kid"
Bazinga!
The devil looks out at atheists and says, "They're so dumb. Even if they don't figure out that God exists, they'll never see straight enough to realize that they don't know it for a fact, and that they can't know it because of how complex the universe is." You atheist jokers need more oxygen to the brain. You don't need it to figure out if God exists or not. You need it to realize that you don't know that He doesn't exist. If you claimed that you were agnostic, you might have an excuse of sorts. But you are either densely ignorant, or else you are pure liars. |
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March 18, 2017, 02:08:25 PM |
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I bet Jesus looks down at BADLogic and thinks...
"That's my boy... trolling those atheists... good job kid"
Bazinga!
The devil looks out at atheists and says, "They're so dumb. Even if they don't figure out that God exists, they'll never see straight enough to realize that they don't know it for a fact, and that they can't know it because of how complex the universe is." You atheist jokers need more oxygen to the brain. You don't need it to figure out if God exists or not. You need it to realize that you don't know that He doesn't exist. If you claimed that you were agnostic, you might have an excuse of sorts. But you are either densely ignorant, or else you are pure liars. So now you know what your devil says.... Do you follow your god or your devil? You religious fanatics need more oxygen to the brain. You don;t need to figure out if your god exists or not. You need to realize that you only believe he is exists. There is no proof. If you claimed to be agnostic, you would have an excuse ..... of sorts. You are either densely ignorant, or else you are pure liars. |
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BADecker
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March 18, 2017, 08:24:56 PM |
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I bet Jesus looks down at BADLogic and thinks...
"That's my boy... trolling those atheists... good job kid"
Bazinga!
The devil looks out at atheists and says, "They're so dumb. Even if they don't figure out that God exists, they'll never see straight enough to realize that they don't know it for a fact, and that they can't know it because of how complex the universe is." You atheist jokers need more oxygen to the brain. You don't need it to figure out if God exists or not. You need it to realize that you don't know that He doesn't exist. If you claimed that you were agnostic, you might have an excuse of sorts. But you are either densely ignorant, or else you are pure liars. So now you know what your devil says.... Do you follow your god or your devil? You religious fanatics need more oxygen to the brain. You don;t need to figure out if your god exists or not. You need to realize that you only believe he is exists. There is no proof. If you claimed to be agnostic, you would have an excuse ..... of sorts. You are either densely ignorant, or else you are pure liars. You an atheist, seem to think that you know what God says. Why don't you know what your boss, the devil, says? Oxygen to the brain is a funny thought coming from you, a joker atheist who thinks he knows what God says. Haven't you noticed that you are a bit backward in this? Oh, of course not. Being backward, how could you notice? |
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March 18, 2017, 08:48:29 PM |
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God, no one says anything. It does not exist. You hear his voice? What you hear I don't know?
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March 18, 2017, 09:11:03 PM |
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God, no one says anything. It does not exist. You hear his voice? What you hear I don't know?
You have checked out every corner of the universe, then, so that you know God does not exist for a fact? Lol. |
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March 18, 2017, 09:21:07 PM |
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God, no one says anything. It does not exist. You hear his voice? What you hear I don't know?
You have checked out every corner of the universe, then, so that you know God does not exist for a fact? Lol. No, of course not checked, but I wonder how you can hear him from the other universe. To the nearest hundreds and thousands of light years, sound years even more. How do you do it? |
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March 18, 2017, 09:28:55 PM |
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God, no one says anything. It does not exist. You hear his voice? What you hear I don't know?
You have checked out every corner of the universe, then, so that you know God does not exist for a fact? Lol. No, of course not checked, but I wonder how you can hear him from the other universe. To the nearest hundreds and thousands of light years, sound years even more. How do you do it? Before I can answer that, I have to hear Him from some other universe. If such a thing happened, then maybe He might tell me how it is I can hear... if I ask Him. Until then, we don't even know that other universes exist. It's a good theory. But we have no real proof. However... Parallel universe theory suggests in some parts that there are an infinite number of universes that exist exactly where our universe exists. These universes form an elastic solid that fills all of space. Being a solid, it is a very good conductor of sound. This is just theory, though. |
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March 19, 2017, 12:19:24 AM |
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Atheists don't hate religion. They might hate certain specific religions. But they seem to enjoy their atheism false religion just as much as they might deplore some of the other religions in the world. If atheists were interested in truth and true religion, they would include God in their religion. No such thing as god! Sorry, man. Try as you like, you just can't talk God out of existence. Sorry, man. Try as you like, you just can't talk God your imaginary non existent magic invisible sky daddy into existence. (FIFY) (even after 300 plus pages of nonsensical delusional posts repeating the same old jeebus drivel.) so do you live on this thread or what ? jeeezus dude, take a break from that pc and get out once in awhile... you might even learn something beyond your pitiful pious pin hole existence. (tho I'm not holding my breath, mind you)  |
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