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May 16, 2019, 09:15:34 AM
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- I will need to see some of the matches of South Africa to talk anything about them.

99% chances are they are not going to win this world cup. 1% is in their favour if luck clicks on right moment. there bowling department is very good if not the best but Batting squad is not up to the mark except couple of batsmen.

Arguably its one of the weakest batting line up in their cricketing history. I would be very surprise if they win this world cup.




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May 16, 2019, 09:18:41 AM
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99% chances are they are not going to win this world cup. 1% is in their favour if luck clicks on right moment. there bowling department is very good if not the best but Batting squad is not up to the mark except couple of batsmen.

Arguably its one of the weakest batting line up in their cricketing history. I would be very surprise if they win this world cup.
Then I have failed to pick my third choice for WC winner LOL. I won't go with Pakistan, West Indies, New Zealand may have chance but again not very much in their favor. Who else?

Bangladesh? LOL

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May 16, 2019, 09:23:57 AM
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Then I have failed to pick my third choice for WC winner LOL. I won't go with Pakistan, West Indies, New Zealand may have chance but again not very much in their favor. Who else?

Bangladesh? LOL

Kiwis can surprise any team, Pakistan, Windies and Bangladesh have 0 chance IMHO.

But hey its Cricket and its a very funny game, who knows all top teams getting kick out by lower ranking team lol. its interesting scenario hehehe.

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May 16, 2019, 09:32:31 AM
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Kiwis can surprise any team, Pakistan, Windies and Bangladesh have 0 chance IMHO.

But hey its Cricket and its a very funny game, who knows all top teams getting kick out by lower ranking team lol. its interesting scenario hehehe.
Are you following this tri nation series between West Indies, Ireland and Bangladesh. Seems like WI is a very average team in front of Bangladesh. Ireland is not even making any fight against any of them.

So, I will keep Bangladesh ahead then West Indies. I don't think the other added players will make any difference from Indies team. You need to remember that these players are very good T20 players but not in up to the mark for ODI.

Kiwis can be a good contestants but not enough I think. South Africa will be better than them.

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May 16, 2019, 09:55:57 AM
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Kiwis can surprise any team, Pakistan, Windies and Bangladesh have 0 chance IMHO.

But hey its Cricket and its a very funny game, who knows all top teams getting kick out by lower ranking team lol. its interesting scenario hehehe.
Are you following this tri nation series between West Indies, Ireland and Bangladesh. Seems like WI is a very average team in front of Bangladesh. Ireland is not even making any fight against any of them.

So, I will keep Bangladesh ahead then West Indies. I don't think the other added players will make any difference from Indies team. You need to remember that these players are very good T20 players but not in up to the mark for ODI.

Kiwis can be a good contestants but not enough I think. South Africa will be better than them.

Yes, I am following all games these days, be it tri-series or bilateral series between Eng vs Pak ( closely) but no one talking here about them except few Cheesy

To sum up all matches: Bowlers taking hits in every match, Batsmen keep hitting bowlers all around the ground for fun. Thanks to flat-dead pitches.

Yeah, Bangladesh is ahead of Windies in the longer format. Windies can win a couple of matches with power hitting but its not a long term solution if you are competing with top teams in World Cup. Let's see what happens during Warm-up matches.

Ireland will take some time, but they will get there if they can hold up on their domestic talent.

Kiwis and Proteas are more or less same in terms of overall strength. They both are a very competitor in any format. so for me its tie between them.

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May 16, 2019, 10:03:36 AM
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Kiwis and Proteas are more or less same in terms of overall strength. They both are a very competitor in any format. so for me its tie between them.
I see it's gonna take time for me to find the third choice LOL
Why Pakistan is so unpredictable? :-P

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May 16, 2019, 02:02:06 PM
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Yes, I am following all games these days, be it tri-series or bilateral series between Eng vs Pak ( closely) but no one talking here about them except few Cheesy

To sum up all matches: Bowlers taking hits in every match, Batsmen keep hitting bowlers all around the ground for fun. Thanks to flat-dead pitches.

Yeah, Bangladesh is ahead of Windies in the longer format. Windies can win a couple of matches with power hitting but its not a long term solution if you are competing with top teams in World Cup. Let's see what happens during Warm-up matches.

Ireland will take some time, but they will get there if they can hold up on their domestic talent.

Kiwis and Proteas are more or less same in terms of overall strength. They both are a very competitor in any format. so for me its tie between them.

If the Windies side is in full strength, then they can easily beat Bangladesh. Despite being a test nation for almost two decades, BAN is just not up there. Their domestic structure is not very organized and even now they depend too much on the Dhaka club sides, rather than diversifying out of the capital city.

And Ireland is a gone case. Irish players are eligible to represent England, and therefore if a player is at international standard, then he'll just dump his motherland and adorn the colors of England (the same with the case of Scotland and Wales). Without their best players, they can get nowhere. Imagine an Irish side with Eoin Morgan and Ed Joyce. They'll be able to give tough competition to anyone. But we'll never get to see such a team. 
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~snip~

If the Windies side is in full strength, then they can easily beat Bangladesh. Despite being a test nation for almost two decades, BAN is just not up there. Their domestic structure is not very organized and even now they depend too much on the Dhaka club sides, rather than diversifying out of the capital city.
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Can you give me the line up of the full strength WI team?

Team like Bangladesh are not the little one anymore. If you are talking about domestic structure then I see West Indies is the team who is behind. You will find some good T20 players in them. Other than that they do not have ODI and test players at the moment.

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May 16, 2019, 04:17:32 PM
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If the Windies side is in full strength, then they can easily beat Bangladesh. Despite being a test nation for almost two decades, BAN is just not up there. Their domestic structure is not very organized and even now they depend too much on the Dhaka club sides, rather than diversifying out of the capital city.
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Can you give me the line up of the full strength WI team?

Team like Bangladesh are not the little one anymore. If you are talking about domestic structure then I see West Indies is the team who is behind. You will find some good T20 players in them. Other than that they do not have ODI and test players at the moment.
I just don't understand why some people seem to think that IPL or T20 performances = ODI and Test performances. It does not make any sense whatsoever. West Indies stand no chance even with their big hitters in the ODI and test formats in my opinion currently and I am confident that the upcoming matches will prove that.

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May 16, 2019, 04:37:28 PM
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~snip~

If the Windies side is in full strength, then they can easily beat Bangladesh. Despite being a test nation for almost two decades, BAN is just not up there. Their domestic structure is not very organized and even now they depend too much on the Dhaka club sides, rather than diversifying out of the capital city.
~snip~
Can you give me the line up of the full strength WI team?

Team like Bangladesh are not the little one anymore. If you are talking about domestic structure then I see West Indies is the team who is behind. You will find some good T20 players in them. Other than that they do not have ODI and test players at the moment.
I just don't understand why some people seem to think that IPL or T20 performances = ODI and Test performances. It does not make any sense whatsoever. West Indies stand no chance even with their big hitters in the ODI and test formats in my opinion currently and I am confident that the upcoming matches will prove that.
Yes, during the match sessions too you can hear the experts statement that we cannot predict a winner with the play in a T20 in comparison TO ODI. Best part is that it shows some good players to the world who haven't got recognized earlier. When it comes to West Indies they suddenly get into form and go completely opposite in a single match. So they too possible give tough fight.

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May 16, 2019, 04:43:58 PM
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Who are expecting the next world cup and what is your favourite team in this time to win share your thoughts.
In my opinion, India is my favorite team and they will most likely lift the World Cup as long as they quickly adapt to the conditions in England. My 2nd preference would be England due to their home pitch advantage and my 3rd preference would be Australia since you can never rule them out.

England is my pick for winning the World Cup, they have a very strong team and they’ll be playing at home. Then my second pick would be Australia who have only grown stronger with the return of Smith and Warner. Lastly I’m torn between picking India and West Indies, as both have quality players who can change the game on their given day.
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May 16, 2019, 07:48:30 PM
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Who are expecting the next world cup and what is your favourite team in this time to win share your thoughts.
In my opinion, India is my favorite team and they will most likely lift the World Cup as long as they quickly adapt to the conditions in England. My 2nd preference would be England due to their home pitch advantage and my 3rd preference would be Australia since you can never rule them out.

England is my pick for winning the World Cup, they have a very strong team and they’ll be playing at home. Then my second pick would be Australia who have only grown stronger with the return of Smith and Warner. Lastly I’m torn between picking India and West Indies, as both have quality players who can change the game on their given day.
People are over-estimating the return of Warner and Smith in my opinion. Warner seems to be in terrific form, but Smith seems to be out of form.

Also, their middle order is not that strong which is why I am pretty confident that Australia might not lift the cup this year.

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May 16, 2019, 10:03:51 PM
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Here is my ranking for the 10 teams, in the decreasing order of probability of winning CWC 2019:
1. Australia
2. England
3. India
4. South Africa
5. New Zealand
6. West Indies
7. Pakistan
The remaining teams (Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh) have no chance of reaching the playoffs, so I am not including them in the ranking.
England have a realistic chance to win the World cup along with India, i do not think that Australia have a chance with the team they have right now, they won more times than any other country but during those domination they had the best players in their playing eleven but that cannot be said now, South Africa had better players earlier but they never play according to their strength in world tournaments, the chance of India winning the world cup depends on two players Kohli and Dhoni as they are the best players in world cricket and no one will argue against it.
Australia has more chance than any other team, if you think no, I would say you didn't watch cricket within last 5-6 months. They have one of the best team for this world cup along with some experoenced players. Their batsman are having runs regularly, I think they have the most chance to win it.
I agree that Australia will always be a tough team to beat, but their current team is great though not as powerful as previous lineups. They have been beaten many times in the past 5-6 months which is why you need to do your research before making such wild statements.

England and India are in a much better position and have better chances in comparison.

Again that was without Smith and Warner not playing and now that they are back the Australian team is a lot stronger then the team in the past 6 months. Are people still forgetting that this Australian team beat India on home soil after coming back from 2-0 down in the series? Yes India might of been experimenting with players but the Australian team wasn't what you would call the strongest team that took on India as it was basically the same team that India beat playing on Australian soil. I still see people say not as powerful as previous Australian teams but no one posts why they think this? What is missing from the current Australian team that makes people think this? The bowling attack is one of the best in the world and with Finch in top form and Usman Khawaja the top order is one of the best. I know the middle order is a little weak however as I have said Smith will be back and make the middle order stronger and we never know when Maxwell will fire so Australia has a lot of fire power and are strong so people on here need to stop comparing this Australian team with previous teams.

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May 17, 2019, 07:45:54 AM
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Here is my ranking for the 10 teams, in the decreasing order of probability of winning CWC 2019:
1. Australia
2. England
3. India
4. South Africa
5. New Zealand
6. West Indies
7. Pakistan
The remaining teams (Sri Lanka, Afghanistan and Bangladesh) have no chance of reaching the playoffs, so I am not including them in the ranking.
England have a realistic chance to win the World cup along with India, i do not think that Australia have a chance with the team they have right now, they won more times than any other country but during those domination they had the best players in their playing eleven but that cannot be said now, South Africa had better players earlier but they never play according to their strength in world tournaments, the chance of India winning the world cup depends on two players Kohli and Dhoni as they are the best players in world cricket and no one will argue against it.
Australia has more chance than any other team, if you think no, I would say you didn't watch cricket within last 5-6 months. They have one of the best team for this world cup along with some experoenced players. Their batsman are having runs regularly, I think they have the most chance to win it.
I agree that Australia will always be a tough team to beat, but their current team is great though not as powerful as previous lineups. They have been beaten many times in the past 5-6 months which is why you need to do your research before making such wild statements.

England and India are in a much better position and have better chances in comparison.

Again that was without Smith and Warner not playing and now that they are back the Australian team is a lot stronger then the team in the past 6 months. Are people still forgetting that this Australian team beat India on home soil after coming back from 2-0 down in the series? Yes India might of been experimenting with players but the Australian team wasn't what you would call the strongest team that took on India as it was basically the same team that India beat playing on Australian soil. I still see people say not as powerful as previous Australian teams but no one posts why they think this? What is missing from the current Australian team that makes people think this? The bowling attack is one of the best in the world and with Finch in top form and Usman Khawaja the top order is one of the best. I know the middle order is a little weak however as I have said Smith will be back and make the middle order stronger and we never know when Maxwell will fire so Australia has a lot of fire power and are strong so people on here need to stop comparing this Australian team with previous teams.

Your points are valid and everyone knows that Australia will always be a dominating force in the world of Cricket, but I used to observe how the previous lineups dominated other teams in the past and I cannot say the same for the current lineup.

The current lineup does consist of some amazing players without a doubt, but they have more weakness this time around. The only quality bowlers in their team are Cummins, Starc and Zampa currently in my opinion.

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May 17, 2019, 09:33:23 AM
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We have 2 games today.

1. Bangladesh vs Windies: Final of Tri Series

Bangladesh already Won the toss and opt to bowl in this final match against Windies. Bangla team looking very confident and everything going good for their team in this tour except Shakib Al Hasan's retired hurt moment in previous match.

Windies Struggling in this tour against Bangladeshi team so far, lets see what's they bring in this final.

Fun Fact : In last 5 years Windies failed to win any 50-overs series.



2. Pakistan vs England 4th ODI

Pakistan can't win this series now, the best they can do is draw this series. they are down 0-2 against English team and 1 match already washed out in rain.

England resting their some player and Morgan is banned for 4th ODI due to slow over rate. Jos Buttler leading the English team today.

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May 17, 2019, 10:55:31 AM
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If the Windies side is in full strength, then they can easily beat Bangladesh. Despite being a test nation for almost two decades, BAN is just not up there. Their domestic structure is not very organized and even now they depend too much on the Dhaka club sides, rather than diversifying out of the capital city.
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Can you give me the line up of the full strength WI team?

Team like Bangladesh are not the little one anymore. If you are talking about domestic structure then I see West Indies is the team who is behind. You will find some good T20 players in them. Other than that they do not have ODI and test players at the moment.

Full strength WI means a side that has Gayle, Pollard, Bravo, Andre Russell, Sunil Narine, Evin Lewis and Carlos Brathwaite. These guys are some of the top cricket players in the world right now. Today they are playing against Bangladesh without half of their best players, and otherwise BAN would be having zero chances.

Have you checked the domestic cricket structure in Bangladesh? They have regional tournaments, but they are not very popular. The most popular domestic tournament remains the Dhaka premier league (apart from the BPL).
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May 17, 2019, 10:57:47 AM
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We have 2 games today.

1. Bangladesh vs Windies: Final of Tri Series

Bangladesh already Won the toss and opt to bowl in this final match against Windies. Bangla team looking very confident and everything going good for their team in this tour except Shakib Al Hasan's retired hurt moment in previous match.

Windies Struggling in this tour against Bangladeshi team so far, lets see what's they bring in this final.

Fun Fact : In last 5 years Windies failed to win any 50-overs series.



2. Pakistan vs England 4th ODI

Pakistan can't win this series now, the best they can do is draw this series. they are down 0-2 against English team and 1 match already washed out in rain.

England resting their some player and Morgan is banned for 4th ODI due to slow over rate. Jos Buttler leading the English team today.

Chances are we are going to see another high scoring match today Rip Bowlers

 
Today West Indies start is very good and confident look like they are going to change some facts and trying to win this final as they want to go in World cup with some good confidence in second match England is like power house but today we are going to have very exciting match as Pakistani trying to fight back for some pride.
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May 17, 2019, 01:54:35 PM
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Chances are we are going to see another high scoring match today Rip Bowlers

 
Indeed RIP bowlers. Pakistan so far scored 161 by losing only one wicket after 27 over.

Seems like UK pitches are too much batting friendly which means in this WC we will see batting dominated matches. Even scoring 400+ runs will be under high level of threat to be chased down easily.

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Last edit: May 17, 2019, 03:15:54 PM by JSRAW
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Today West Indies start is very good and confident look like they are going to change some facts and trying to win this final as they want to go in World cup with some good confidence

Yeah, they were looking good today but rain ruining the party for them.


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Chances are we are going to see another high scoring match today Rip Bowlers

 
Indeed RIP bowlers. Pakistan so far scored 161 by losing only one wicket after 27 over.

Seems like UK pitches are too much batting friendly which means in this WC we will see batting dominated matches. Even scoring 400+ runs will be under high level of threat to be chased down easily.

Pakistan heading toward easy 350 runs target, if they got lucky with couple of big overs then 350+ not looking far as well. happy for Babar Azam, he's playing brilliantly as usual.

Pitches are like a graveyard for bowlers these days.

Edit : Babar out

Edit 2 : Quick wicket hurting run rate and 350 looking tough. Pak need couple of big over.

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May 17, 2019, 03:52:29 PM
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Brilliant knock by Babor Azom. Pakistan scored 340 after 50 overs. I don't think it's a safe score since the opponent is one of the strongest batting line up.
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