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November 17, 2020, 06:32:14 AM
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It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.
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November 17, 2020, 06:42:22 AM
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It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.
Because Cricket is part of India-Pak government's diplomacy which started after 65 war, additionally in recent time it brings more money and catches more eyeballs in subcontinent when comparing to other sports hockey, kabaddi etc so restrictions makes more sense.

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November 17, 2020, 02:17:39 PM
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It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.
Because Cricket is part of India-Pak government's diplomacy which started after 65 war, additionally in recent time it brings more money and catches more eyeballs in subcontinent when comparing to other sports hockey, kabaddi etc so restrictions makes more sense.

Also i think there is more restrictions from the India who are not willing to play with Pakistan as compare to the Pakistani not willing to play with Indians.
The only reason i can think is that they are afraid of a loss while playing with Pakistan. Although they are a stronger team as compare to Pakistan, but when these two rivals meets, we see a different game altogether.

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November 17, 2020, 02:45:03 PM
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It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.
Because Cricket is part of India-Pak government's diplomacy which started after 65 war, additionally in recent time it brings more money and catches more eyeballs in subcontinent when comparing to other sports hockey, kabaddi etc so restrictions makes more sense.

Also i think there is more restrictions from the India who are not willing to play with Pakistan as compare to the Pakistani not willing to play with Indians.
The only reason i can think is that they are afraid of a loss while playing with Pakistan. Although they are a stronger team as compare to Pakistan, but when these two rivals meets, we see a different game altogether.
I can assure you losing or winning against Pakistan is not a big deal in India anymore, i have witnessed this in Champions Trophy tournament. Every one was like Yeah they played well and Indian team was shit so they deserve to lose the game.. there was no outrage whatsoever like it used to be in the past.

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It is a political competition and it is sad for sports fans to involve politics into sports and the strange aspect is that there is only restriction for cricket, the rest of the sporting events continue as normal from what i understand.

Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.
Because Cricket is part of India-Pak government's diplomacy which started after 65 war, additionally in recent time it brings more money and catches more eyeballs in subcontinent when comparing to other sports hockey, kabaddi etc so restrictions makes more sense.

Also i think there is more restrictions from the India who are not willing to play with Pakistan as compare to the Pakistani not willing to play with Indians.
The only reason i can think is that they are afraid of a loss while playing with Pakistan. Although they are a stronger team as compare to Pakistan, but when these two rivals meets, we see a different game altogether.
I can assure you losing or winning against Pakistan is not a big deal in India anymore, i have witnessed this in Champions Trophy tournament. Every one was like Yeah they played well and Indian team was shit so they deserve to lose the game.. there was no outrage whatsoever like it used to be in the past.
Right now I agree with @JSRAW win or lost is nothing problem its all about political issue and Cricket is really big even here in Sub-Continent India taking some good profit from this all and now they understand if they play with Pakistan then they are going to have really big profit as well so they don't like this all IPL no need any special thing for more money as they already have enough and if PSL is going to be  on air in India then surely its going to give them very big profit so its related to this all not win or lost.
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November 17, 2020, 03:23:32 PM
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There should be a balance between pride and commercialization of sports. Franchise league like IPL puts money before anything else. There is a slight taste of regionalization with different teams named after cities and they playing their home matches, 50% of games in the league in home ground. But there's no other rules that makes the team look like regional, no local players rule or no locals in board members. When it comes to national games, there's always a sense of pride in the general public. It's really rare to see a citizen of a playing nation not supporting his/her team in a national game.
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Yes.. this is something I fail to understand. All these restrictions are in place only for cricket. For example, Pakistani players are banned from IPL. But at the same time, Pakistani actors and singers are allowed in Bollywood. India is playing against Pakistan in other sports, such as football and hockey. I don't understand why for cricket there are different norms.
The government is trying hard to fool people as cricket is the major sports in India they want to show how patriotic they are by banning any series between them in cricket and the rest of the sports are not having that much fan following even though hockey is the national game you hardly find any fans in the stadium.

The only reason i can think is that they are afraid of a loss while playing with Pakistan. Although they are a stronger team as compare to Pakistan, but when these two rivals meets, we see a different game altogether.
Far from the truth now, India is much better team and it will be squash match if they play but in the past Pakistan had the best players in the world and it was competitive.
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November 17, 2020, 04:17:20 PM
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I can assure you losing or winning against Pakistan is not a big deal in India anymore, 

I don't have much examples to share right now but see the most recent statements from both the teams fans before they met in the world cup match in 2019.
Both teams can afford to lose the WC final but can't afford to lose against each other.



Source: https://www.dw.com/en/cricket-world-cup-why-the-india-pakistan-contest-is-more-than-just-sport/a-49227786

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November 18, 2020, 04:29:42 AM
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There should be a balance between pride and commercialization of sports. Franchise league like IPL puts money before anything else. There is a slight taste of regionalization with different teams named after cities and they playing their home matches, 50% of games in the league in home ground. But there's no other rules that makes the team look like regional, no local players rule or no locals in board members. When it comes to national games, there's always a sense of pride in the general public. It's really rare to see a citizen of a playing nation not supporting his/her team in a national game.

This is actually one of the disadvantages with the IPL. Apart from the names, there is hardly anything which links the franchise with the city in which it is based in. A few teams such as KXIP and MI do have considerable number of players from their city, but other franchises don't have that advantage. I would rather blame the BCCI. If they remove the restrictions on team purse and all, then we'll see stable teams with a set fan base.

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November 18, 2020, 06:01:53 AM
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I can assure you losing or winning against Pakistan is not a big deal in India anymore, 

I don't have much examples to share right now but see the most recent statements from both the teams fans before they met in the world cup match in 2019.
Both teams can afford to lose the WC final but can't afford to lose against each other.



Source: https://www.dw.com/en/cricket-world-cup-why-the-india-pakistan-contest-is-more-than-just-sport/a-49227786
May be in Pakistan and may be some section in India but overall Ind-Pak hype is dying in India. Small percentage of media try their best to hype the competition when both teams face each others in the ICC tournament, it could be due to old rivalry fan base  or Commercial aspect. But more or less everyone knows the outcome that its going to be one-sided encounter. Even if Pakistan winning the game, similar to CT finals, it was one-sided victory too. For chest thumping its all good that India beating Pakistan or vice versa. but the fact is tough competition is missing whenever they play against each others, so much for old rivalry.

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November 18, 2020, 06:07:19 AM
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May be in Pakistan and may be some section in India but overall Ind-Pak hype is dying in India. Small percentage of media try their best to hype the competition when both teams face each others in the ICC tournament, it could be due to old rivalry fan base  or Commercial aspect. But more or less everyone knows the outcome that its going to be one-sided encounter. Even if Pakistan winning the game, similar to CT finals, it was one-sided victory too. For chest thumping its all good that India beating Pakistan or vice versa. but the fact is tough competition is missing whenever they play against each others, so much for old rivalry.

Being a regular visitor to India, I would agree. Earlier, cricket matches between India and Pakistan used to be hyped to a huge extent. That is not the case now. Even when India is facing Pakistan in some ICC tournament, the hype is quite normal nowadays. One reason that I could think of is that the quality of cricket in Pakistan has gone down during the last decade or so. Results are becoming predictable and the matches are getting more and more lopsided.
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November 18, 2020, 06:55:52 PM
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Being a regular visitor to India, I would agree. Earlier, cricket matches between India and Pakistan used to be hyped to a huge extent. That is not the case now. Even when India is facing Pakistan in some ICC tournament, the hype is quite normal nowadays. One reason that I could think of is that the quality of cricket in Pakistan has gone down during the last decade or so. Results are becoming predictable and the matches are getting more and more lopsided
It is true that if one side is dominating the hype will die off, usually England and Australia series was considered the biggest grudge match but there was a time when Australia was dominating world cricket and we knew what would happen if they face but when England was able to win a match in the 2005 Ashes then the hype was really high and the hope of retaining the Ashes was rising and that followed till the end and i consider that Ashes was the best cricket i have seen and i doubt India Pakistan match could replicate that.
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November 18, 2020, 07:24:22 PM
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Being a regular visitor to India, I would agree. Earlier, cricket matches between India and Pakistan used to be hyped to a huge extent. That is not the case now. Even when India is facing Pakistan in some ICC tournament, the hype is quite normal nowadays. One reason that I could think of is that the quality of cricket in Pakistan has gone down during the last decade or so. Results are becoming predictable and the matches are getting more and more lopsided
It is true that if one side is dominating the hype will die off, usually England and Australia series was considered the biggest grudge match but there was a time when Australia was dominating world cricket and we knew what would happen if they face but when England was able to win a match in the 2005 Ashes then the hype was really high and the hope of retaining the Ashes was rising and that followed till the end and i consider that Ashes was the best cricket i have seen and i doubt India Pakistan match could replicate that.
With this all one thing is sure now we are not going to have any bilateral cricket between Pakistan and India in 10 to 15 years and second quality of Pakistan cricket is also going down very badly due to some poor management but its never been problem for them because we still able to have some good and quality players those can change things by one handed Australia vs England is completely different thing we cannot live like this because we have some corrupt system and bad politicians around us.
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November 18, 2020, 07:54:58 PM
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November 18, 2020, 10:41:49 PM
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Cricket is the one of the game I so much love, but the problem is that I don't really know how cricket operates and I never gamble with cricket game, so I want to know if its possible to have a cricket betting center like soccer betting center that will enable people who are novice to it to understand it properly without difficulties, because from my perspective having it's betting center I think it can enable it to reach the grass root, because from my understanding it has gotten to the knowledge of everyone on how to predict it and also play it.
I am confused what you are trying to tell, you love the game of cricket so much that you do not know the game and you want to learn from basic Roll Eyes. If you want to learn about basics and the rules of cricket you can search in youtube and you will find many videos regarding that and then start watching matches and you will understand the game.
What is this betting center Huh. If you are looking for sportsbook all the sites accepts cricket bets.
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If you love the game so much then you should be aware of the rules and regulations. Betting is not that so difficult in cricket you bet on either side and depending on the game you bet on boundaries, wickets, dot balls and etc.

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November 19, 2020, 03:54:20 AM
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Cricket is the one of the game I so much love, but the problem is that I don't really know how cricket operates and I never gamble with cricket game, so I want to know if its possible to have a cricket betting center like soccer betting center that will enable people who are novice to it to understand it properly without difficulties, because from my perspective having it's betting center I think it can enable it to reach the grass root, because from my understanding it has gotten to the knowledge of everyone on how to predict it and also play it.

If you love the game so much then you should be aware of the rules and regulations. Betting is not that so difficult in cricket you bet on either side and depending on the game you bet on boundaries, wickets, dot balls and etc.

I do not understand what is so complicated about this game? If you need more information related to cricket you can search on Google and there are tons of information.
I think cricket is the easiest things to gamble. We know the results of many matches in advance. If you watch the game regularly then you can definitely make good predictions about cricket matches.

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November 19, 2020, 04:05:04 AM
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With this all one thing is sure now we are not going to have any bilateral cricket between Pakistan and India in 10 to 15 years and second quality of Pakistan cricket is also going down very badly due to some poor management but its never been problem for them because we still able to have some good and quality players those can change things by one handed Australia vs England is completely different thing we cannot live like this because we have some corrupt system and bad politicians around us.

The political situation here is getting worse with every passing year. In both Pakistan and India, right-wing parties are in power and they don't want to compromise on anything. Then Pakistan has to deal with the additional handicap of poor security situation at home, which has forced them to play most of the bilateral series in the UAE. This has resulted in huge losses for the PCB, and as a result they are unable to properly fund the domestic game.

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November 19, 2020, 08:03:53 AM
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If you people watch cricket closely, you must have seen "Chacha Cricket" among the spectators whenever there is a match in which Pakistan is playing. You will find him going in every country to support the team.
 


Recently there are some fake news spreading on social media that he has died. Those news are totally fake and he is alive and healthy.

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November 19, 2020, 04:41:00 PM
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The political situation here is getting worse with every passing year. In both Pakistan and India, right-wing parties are in power and they don't want to compromise on anything. Then Pakistan has to deal with the additional handicap of poor security situation at home, which has forced them to play most of the bilateral series in the UAE. This has resulted in huge losses for the PCB, and as a result they are unable to properly fund the domestic game.
I believe if India was ruled by a liberal government and with Imran Khan in power in Pakistan there was a real possibility of sorting out their political differences and go about peacefully but with a right wing party who identity them behind a religion and carrying out their agenda without taking care about the constitution it is an impossible task.

If you people watch cricket closely, you must have seen "Chacha Cricket" among the spectators whenever there is a match in which Pakistan is playing. You will find him going in every country to support the team.
Chacha along with Sudhir Kumar Chaudhary who paints himself as the Indian flag honoring Sachin were the biggest fans i know in cricket and their dedication to the game is outstanding, respect.
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