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April 25, 2020, 04:04:14 PM
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Interesting news or call it irony but cricket authorities aka ICC might legalise ball- tampering due to covid-19 (no saliva) @Vishnu you might enjoy this. Using phone so not sure if this article is new or 1 month old.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/29091809/cricket-consider-legalised-ball-tampering-wake-coronavirus?platform=amp

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Many thanks for posting this article. But then the article says that it needs to be done under the "supervision of the umpires"... lol... it is going to be tough for the umpires. They need to see up to what level the tampering can be tolerated. Anyway, I enjoy watching conventional swing/reverse swing deliveries.. and this is definitely a great news for people like me.  Grin
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April 25, 2020, 06:50:38 PM
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@JSRAW this is Karma at it’s best as for a long time bowlers were at a disadvantage because of the rules made by ICC, and batsmen had more advantage as rules were more suited towards them. However now things will change if bowlers are allowed to use sandpaper as it’ll leave batsmen at a severe disadvantage, and accordingly we will see more results in test matches and less matches ending in a draw.

Source:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12236029

Just to be clear, no one promoting Sand paper kinda stuff. They are basically exploring the idea of artificial substance instead of saliva,so that they can maintain the shine on ball. Red ball only that's means only test cricket.

~snip
Wow!!
Many thanks for posting this article. But then the article says that it needs to be done under the "supervision of the umpires"... lol... it is going to be tough for the umpires. They need to see up to what level the tampering can be tolerated. Anyway, I enjoy watching conventional swing/reverse swing deliveries.. and this is definitely a great news for people like me.  Grin

Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.

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April 25, 2020, 11:41:07 PM
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@JSRAW this is Karma at it’s best as for a long time bowlers were at a disadvantage because of the rules made by ICC, and batsmen had more advantage as rules were more suited towards them. However now things will change if bowlers are allowed to use sandpaper as it’ll leave batsmen at a severe disadvantage, and accordingly we will see more results in test matches and less matches ending in a draw.

Source:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12236029

Just to be clear, no one promoting Sand paper kinda stuff. They are basically exploring the idea of artificial substance instead of saliva,so that they can maintain the shine on ball. Red ball only that's means only test cricket.

~snip
Wow!!
Many thanks for posting this article. But then the article says that it needs to be done under the "supervision of the umpires"... lol... it is going to be tough for the umpires. They need to see up to what level the tampering can be tolerated. Anyway, I enjoy watching conventional swing/reverse swing deliveries.. and this is definitely a great news for people like me.  Grin

Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.

I think this is going too far now with this virus, there is a solution to this and the players can use with a spray bottle which is like using saliva. The strange thing is that nothing like this happened in 2009 with the swine flu, I know this corona virus is worse but still we never saw any changes to anything so I think this is going too far in my opinion.

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April 26, 2020, 12:17:11 PM
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Yeah it is.

The worst hit state are Maharashtra and Delhi. They are so densely populated that it is becoming very hard for the government to implement lockdown. 80 percent of the population is still. O operAting with the government.

Most of the cases in Maharashtra are concentrated within Mumbai, but there are huge number of cases in Pune/Thane as well. It is not that surprising. Mumbai is an island (now converted to a peninsula), and the population density is the highest for any major city in India. The largest slum in the world (Dharavi) is located here. So it is not very surprising that the pandemic is spreading fast in Mumbai.
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April 27, 2020, 05:16:52 AM
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@JSRAW this is Karma at it’s best as for a long time bowlers were at a disadvantage because of the rules made by ICC, and batsmen had more advantage as rules were more suited towards them. However now things will change if bowlers are allowed to use sandpaper as it’ll leave batsmen at a severe disadvantage, and accordingly we will see more results in test matches and less matches ending in a draw.

Source:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12236029

Just to be clear, no one promoting Sand paper kinda stuff. They are basically exploring the idea of artificial substance instead of saliva,so that they can maintain the shine on ball. Red ball only that's means only test cricket.

~snip
Wow!!
Many thanks for posting this article. But then the article says that it needs to be done under the "supervision of the umpires"... lol... it is going to be tough for the umpires. They need to see up to what level the tampering can be tolerated. Anyway, I enjoy watching conventional swing/reverse swing deliveries.. and this is definitely a great news for people like me.  Grin

Normally, Polishing the ball job is fixed for Mid off,Mid on and covers fielders. Cameras already keeps eye on them but if this "Ball tampering rule" gets approval from the ICC then we can expect strict surveillance, like 10 cameras following the ball religiously from every angle including umpires, sounds logical to me.

I think this is going too far now with this virus, there is a solution to this and the players can use with a spray bottle which is like using saliva. The strange thing is that nothing like this happened in 2009 with the swine flu, I know this corona virus is worse but still we never saw any changes to anything so I think this is going too far in my opinion.

I shouldn't make fun of this situation but it seems very funny scenario. Umpire carrying the spray bottle with them, including couple of fielders too. (I have no idea about spray bottle thingy)

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April 27, 2020, 05:19:44 AM
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Yeah it is.

The worst hit state are Maharashtra and Delhi. They are so densely populated that it is becoming very hard for the government to implement lockdown. 80 percent of the population is still. O operAting with the government.

Most of the cases in Maharashtra are concentrated within Mumbai, but there are huge number of cases in Pune/Thane as well. It is not that surprising. Mumbai is an island (now converted to a peninsula), and the population density is the highest for any major city in India. The largest slum in the world (Dharavi) is located here. So it is not very surprising that the pandemic is spreading fast in Mumbai.

Any place where population is dense and if people stay very close to each other this virus would be spreading then be it whichever part of the world it becomes difficult to stop it. Prevention is better than cure that is the reason may countries have lock down so that people stay indoors and follow the rules. Cricket like other things are also effected during such time.


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April 27, 2020, 06:03:24 AM
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Yeah but this thread is about the cricket so we should discuss only about the cricket here. I do agree that all of the cricket is paused these days only because of this covid-19 but we have many other threads where covid-19 is being discussed in more details.

I wonder when we will see first match (Test / ODI / T20) after this break. Maybe next year  Huh

Yeah, next year seems the most plausible case now for almost all sports. But if the British scientist's claim about the vaccine is true, then we'll be having the vaccines by September. So, there is a slight chance that we might be able to see some game by the end of November or early December. Prior that the chance of a cricket match is almost 0.
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Yeah but this thread is about the cricket so we should discuss only about the cricket here. I do agree that all of the cricket is paused these days only because of this covid-19 but we have many other threads where covid-19 is being discussed in more details.

I wonder when we will see first match (Test / ODI / T20) after this break. Maybe next year  Huh

Yeah, next year seems the most plausible case now for almost all sports. But if the British scientist's claim about the vaccine is true, then we'll be having the vaccines by September. So, there is a slight chance that we might be able to see some game by the end of November or early December. Prior that the chance of a cricket match is almost 0.

Right now England Cricket Board and Australian Cricket Board both trying hard to have something but I am feeling England Cricket Board have no chance but Aussies will be able to have some cricket in this season behind closed doors if we have some Vaccine or any good news about this all as Aussies season start in November so still some good time for them.
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April 27, 2020, 05:36:16 PM
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Any place where population is dense and if people stay very close to each other this virus would be spreading then be it whichever part of the world it becomes difficult to stop it. Prevention is better than cure that is the reason may countries have lock down so that people stay indoors and follow the rules. Cricket like other things are also effected during such time.

Don't you think that cricket is not as risky as some of the other sports? Playing cricket involves a bare minimum body contact between the players. The contact is made between the bat and ball, and not with the human body. Compare this to the other sports, such as Football, boxing, basketball.etc. I guess we can play cricket even now, provided that the players adhere to social distancing norms.  Grin
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Any place where population is dense and if people stay very close to each other this virus would be spreading then be it whichever part of the world it becomes difficult to stop it. Prevention is better than cure that is the reason may countries have lock down so that people stay indoors and follow the rules. Cricket like other things are also effected during such time.

Don't you think that cricket is not as risky as some of the other sports? Playing cricket involves a bare minimum body contact between the players. The contact is made between the bat and ball, and not with the human body. Compare this to the other sports, such as Football, boxing, basketball.etc. I guess we can play cricket even now, provided that the players adhere to social distancing norms.  Grin
I am also feeling Cricket can make some better progress instead of other sports but this is not easy because measures are different for many countries and right now flight operations also cancelled so not easy to do this all but good thing we can play in our place very safely without any body contact.
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April 28, 2020, 01:39:13 PM
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Don't you think that cricket is not as risky as some of the other sports? Playing cricket involves a bare minimum body contact between the players. The contact is made between the bat and ball, and not with the human body. Compare this to the other sports, such as Football, boxing, basketball.etc. I guess we can play cricket even now, provided that the players adhere to social distancing norms.  Grin
I think Cricket is the riskiest sport and Tennis and Table tennis being the least. Did you forget that the bowlers use saliva (the major carrier of the virus) to shine the ball and the fielder has to field saliva soaked ball Roll Eyes I know that they looking at the possibility of replacing it with artificial substances to shine the ball, but that's not going to stop their habit  Tongue Maybe we should give gloves to all fielders. Hmm... Interesting Baseball is literally safer than cricket.
Thinking of which athletic games like javelin throw, long jump, high jump etc are not risky at all. They don't attract much crowd and there is social distancing by default.
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Don't you think that cricket is not as risky as some of the other sports? Playing cricket involves a bare minimum body contact between the players. The contact is made between the bat and ball, and not with the human body. Compare this to the other sports, such as Football, boxing, basketball.etc. I guess we can play cricket even now, provided that the players adhere to social distancing norms.  Grin
I think Cricket is the riskiest sport and Tennis and Table tennis being the least. Did you forget that the bowlers use saliva (the major carrier of the virus) to shine the ball and the fielder has to field saliva soaked ball Roll Eyes I know that they looking at the possibility of replacing it with artificial substances to shine the ball, but that's not going to stop their habit  Tongue Maybe we should give gloves to all fielders. Hmm... Interesting Baseball is literally safer than cricket.
Thinking of which athletic games like javelin throw, long jump, high jump etc are not risky at all. They don't attract much crowd and there is social distancing by default.
Life is most riskiest thing because you can lost this any time any where without any resistance so its very long talk but right now as most of sports authorities doing hopefully they will bring some good and acceptable substances for players and entertainment because right now its need of time every one is frustrated and thinking how we will do this all in near future but be positive all will came and we will enjoy this all.
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Don't you think that cricket is not as risky as some of the other sports? Playing cricket involves a bare minimum body contact between the players. The contact is made between the bat and ball, and not with the human body. Compare this to the other sports, such as Football, boxing, basketball.etc. I guess we can play cricket even now, provided that the players adhere to social distancing norms.  Grin
I think Cricket is the riskiest sport and Tennis and Table tennis being the least. Did you forget that the bowlers use saliva (the major carrier of the virus) to shine the ball and the fielder has to field saliva soaked ball Roll Eyes I know that they looking at the possibility of replacing it with artificial substances to shine the ball, but that's not going to stop their habit  Tongue Maybe we should give gloves to all fielders. Hmm... Interesting Baseball is literally safer than cricket.
Thinking of which athletic games like javelin throw, long jump, high jump etc are not risky at all. They don't attract much crowd and there is social distancing by default.

Well.. I can't agree with you. This disgusting habit of applying saliva and sweat to the cricket ball is limited to a few bowlers. The vast majority don't need these dirty tricks to swing the ball. And also, you have talked about long jump, triple jump.etc. What you forgot here is that the jumping pit remains the same for all the athletes and there is a great chance of the infection spreading from there.
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April 28, 2020, 05:44:35 PM
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Every contact sports are dangerous in current scenario. no matter if its minimum or maximum contact. If there is contact then its a No_G0_Zone.

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April 28, 2020, 06:02:48 PM
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Every contact sports are dangerous in current scenario. no matter if its minimum or maximum contact. If there is contact then its a No_G0_Zone.

IMHO, Ludo and chess are the safest Grin
If you are keeping the desired distance of 1.8 m then Ludo and Chess will be safe, everyone is going through the strangest situation in their life when everyone is forced to sit at home because it is not safe to venture outside, it reminds me of "The Walking Dead" series and other zombie movies where you are afraid of everyone that are infected but with COVID 19 you cannot identify the infected which is much scary and that is happening in real life. Until there is a vaccine we wont be able to see any sporting events.
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April 28, 2020, 06:13:54 PM
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Every contact sports are dangerous in current scenario. no matter if its minimum or maximum contact. If there is contact then its a No_G0_Zone.

IMHO, Ludo and chess are the safest Grin
Would you beleive I am enjoying with these both but due to lock down feeling now my mind is not working as its need to done because sometime my head moving and doing wrong moves.
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April 29, 2020, 03:59:29 PM
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Every contact sports are dangerous in current scenario. no matter if its minimum or maximum contact. If there is contact then its a No_G0_Zone.

IMHO, Ludo and chess are the safest Grin

Ludo, Chess.etc are not real sports. They don't involve any physical activity. You can call them as "games", but not as "sports". And that is the reason why they are not included in competitions such as the Olympics and Asian Games. There is a crazy demand to include Esports in the Olympics, but I hope that the International Olympic Committee will reject this demand.
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April 29, 2020, 09:43:13 PM
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Ludo, Chess.etc are not real sports. They don't involve any physical activity. You can call them as "games", but not as "sports". And that is the reason why they are not included in competitions such as the Olympics and Asian Games. There is a crazy demand to include Esports in the Olympics, but I hope that the International Olympic Committee will reject this demand.
Hope you are aware that chess is accepted as a sporting event by the Olympic committee and there were plans to include chess during the 2020 Olympics but it was not accepted but i wont be surprised if it is accepted by the Olympic committee in the future and even E sports might get a nod in the future.
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April 30, 2020, 02:18:55 AM
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Every contact sports are dangerous in current scenario. no matter if its minimum or maximum contact. If there is contact then its a No_G0_Zone.

IMHO, Ludo and chess are the safest Grin
Would you beleive I am enjoying with these both but due to lock down feeling now my mind is not working as its need to done because sometime my head moving and doing wrong moves.

Haha didn't play ludo for ages.. good old times.

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IMHO, Ludo and chess are the safest Grin

Ludo, Chess.etc are not real sports. They don't involve any physical activity. You can call them as "games", but not as "sports". And that is the reason why they are not included in competitions such as the Olympics and Asian Games. There is a crazy demand to include Esports in the Olympics, but I hope that the International Olympic Committee will reject this demand.

I was shit posting when i mentioned Ludo lol

IOC does recognize Chess as sport. Chess doesn't need to be included in regular Olympic anyway as it has its own Chess Olympiad.

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April 30, 2020, 06:08:40 PM
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I was shit posting when i mentioned Ludo lol

IOC does recognize Chess as sport. Chess doesn't need to be included in regular Olympic anyway as it has its own Chess Olympiad.

Well.. I understood that it was sarcasm. I was just pointing out the recent attempts to include these pseudo-sports in Olympics. The most outrageous suggestion was to include Esports. Others in the list include DanceSport, Tug of war, Bodybuilding, Paragliding, Sumo.etc. To tell the truth, I don't even consider chess as an Olympic sport. People need to understand these games don't have anything to do with physical activity.

On the other hand, I am in favor of including Cricket, MMA, Capoeira, Sepak takraw.etc.
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