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June 22, 2023, 09:00:11 PM
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It isn't their joy that they keep selling star players, Dortmund doesn't have any other reliable sources of income than trading with players.
Borussia Dortmund manager Edin Terzi is in ideal positions to achieve his objectives, but the board keeps releasing key players, jeopardizing the club's chances of winning the Bundesliga. If one can recurred the club's past and present deals, they sold out talented players who, if present in the club at the time, would most likely have a different story. Borrusia Dortmund are more concerned with trophies; they need to start winning titles because it's becoming clear that they produce their funds by transferring their talented and promising players to outstanding teams, which is a huge loss on their part.

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June 22, 2023, 10:17:58 PM
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And yes, if they do not change their tactics Bayern Munich is certainly going to be having longer reign on the Bundesliga title this season there was a great chance for Dortmund. Only if they were interested in winning trophies.
from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.

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June 22, 2023, 10:20:03 PM
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Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy
It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.

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June 22, 2023, 10:24:34 PM
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from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.
The tactic used by Arsenal in the past and currently by Dortmund and Leipzig is fruitful for these teams since it keeps their business running smoothly with a good reward. Prizes come in a second position when you see what they are doing.
For Dortmund, they are counting on Bayern Munich mistakes to compete them. I would like to imagine them playing with Haaland in the team this finished season, would the end be the same?

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June 22, 2023, 10:57:36 PM
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It isn't their joy that they keep selling star players, Dortmund doesn't have any other reliable sources of income than trading with players.
Borussia Dortmund manager Edin Terzi is in ideal positions to achieve his objectives, but the board keeps releasing key players, jeopardizing the club's chances of winning the Bundesliga. If one can recurred the club's past and present deals, they sold out talented players who, if present in the club at the time, would most likely have a different story. Borrusia Dortmund are more concerned with trophies; they need to start winning titles because it's becoming clear that they produce their funds by transferring their talented and promising players to outstanding teams, which is a huge loss on their part.
When Dortmund failed to win the Bundesliga last season, I don't think it was entirely because they let go of their stars because at that time Jude Bellingham was still with them, it's just that he had an injury that prevented him from playing, so that was one of the reasons for the defeat, and it is also undeniable that the player Bayern Munich are stronger mentally when under pressure, the experience of winning back to back with a couple same squad gives them that advantage.
Selling stars looks like Dortmund will continue to do so, maybe for them, the money made from selling their stars is more lucrative than the money made if they become champions, and their business has been like that for a long time, even when they didn't want to sell their stars, the players who being targeted by the club is very likely to leave if there is a more tempting offer with the certainty of getting a title while playing for a big club like Real Madrid.

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June 22, 2023, 11:13:40 PM
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That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.

They will not change their plans for the upcoming season. Dortmund will still be looking to make huge profits in each transfer window so it would be no surprise for them not to sell their star player. Their strength is often unstable in every season because even this season some of their important players have left and that is something that strengthens us if Dortmund will have difficulty winning the title next season.

But I am impressed with Dortmund talent scouts because they are very professional in bringing in talented players so they only need to polish their quality in 1 or 2 seasons until they become star players who are the target of big European clubs.

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June 22, 2023, 11:39:05 PM
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If Dortmund's ownership changes or Dortmund gets a better sponsor. Then maybe they will form a strong squad. and will compete with Munich for the title.
I am not convinced the board of directors and the players are prepared to compete with everything they have against Bayern Munich. They're generating huge profits from the market by selling promising players to elite teams, and what strikes me is that they're still outperforming everyone else. Borrusia Dortmund will only win the Bundesliga if they learn to keep their talented players without triggering a sell clause. I understand that every club needs income to produce and establish their club, but not at the expense of their success; selling and accomplishing second-place results means nothing.



With the situation we see in Bundesliga in the last year,  Bayern Munich is going to win the titles without a problem and they are still the first hope for winning the title in the next season mostly because other teams can't invest much as they can do and in the other hand, Dortmund prefers to sell players and earn money instead of racing with  Bayern Munich for the title.

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June 23, 2023, 01:01:40 AM
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If Dortmund's ownership changes or Dortmund gets a better sponsor. Then maybe they will form a strong squad. and will compete with Munich for the title.
I am not convinced the board of directors and the players are prepared to compete with everything they have against Bayern Munich. They're generating huge profits from the market by selling promising players to elite teams, and what strikes me is that they're still outperforming everyone else. Borrusia Dortmund will only win the Bundesliga if they learn to keep their talented players without triggering a sell clause. I understand that every club needs income to produce and establish their club, but not at the expense of their success; selling and accomplishing second-place results means nothing.



With the situation we see in Bundesliga in the last year,  Bayern Munich is going to win the titles without a problem and they are still the first hope for winning the title in the next season mostly because other teams can't invest much as they can do and in the other hand, Dortmund prefers to sell players and earn money instead of racing with  Bayern Munich for the title.

All the time I read about Dortmund "prefers" to sell players to make money? Where do you guys come up with this idea?
They don't choose to do this, they just don't have another chance.
Star players that get developed in Dortmund almost always want to change the club once the teams with big names and/or big budgets come knocking.

Look at the recent history. Dembele went to Barcelona and forced his way out, BVB wanted to keep him. Haaland got a HUGE offer from Man City, BVB tried to give him a new contract but for obvious reason he left. But at least he fought until the last game and left on a good note.

Sancho went to Manchester, also for the big money, BVB tried to keep him but no chance.

Bellingham, they also tried to keep him but he chose to go to Madrid, also to earn a lot of money.

All these players went to big names in European football. All got paid huge contracts and BVB tried to keep all of them but had no chance in doing so.
So please refrain from posting these untrue ideas. BVB has 4 goals every season, none of them is selling players. They play for the championship, try to qualify for the champions league and want to win the cup. The last one is staying in the campions league as long as possible but knowing it's almost impossible to win it.

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June 23, 2023, 01:58:06 AM
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Congratulation to union berlin for getting fair play of the season award.

The award goes to this nomination by union berlin.

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After Sheraldo Becker's deflected strike put the visitors 2-1 up away to Schalke – en route to a 6-1 triumph – the players celebrate the goal. However, upon noticing that a pitch-side photographer slips and hurts himself while trying to capture their joy, the players interrupt their celebrations to call for medical help. After receiving some treatment, the photographer makes a full recovery.
https://fairplay.bundesliga.com/?lang=en

It would bring me great joy if more and more teams abide by the rules of fair play. It's not only about winning or losing in the game. It's also about how we can respect our opponent. We may become opponents in the field, but respect for others must not be gone.

I hope that more and more players will respect and try to take care of its opponent.

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from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.
Dortmund's circulation will still be in the same situation even for the next few seasons. Admittedly, Dortmund is always surprising because they competed with Bayern Munich starting almost from the middle of the season, but in the end they were unable to close the season with the Bundesliga trophy.

On the other hand, the factor of players being sold by Dortmund will always be the reason for their failure to win the bundesliga title and it's no wonder they will continue to experience the same thing every season. I think that right now there is no team that can really stop Bayern Munich's domination, if there is one, only Dortmund, that is only a threat.

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June 23, 2023, 03:19:51 AM
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Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy
It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.

if you have said about business, this is a very absolute decision and cannot be changed anymore. I know Dortmund will only score young players with good talent and sell them, but at least once in a while they have to give their fans the best.
some cups would be better even though it can't compete with Bayern Munich.

but unfortunately this is very difficult when it comes to thinking about business.

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June 23, 2023, 03:32:29 AM
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from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.
The tactic used by Arsenal in the past and currently by Dortmund and Leipzig is fruitful for these teams since it keeps their business running smoothly with a good reward. Prizes come in a second position when you see what they are doing.
For Dortmund, they are counting on Bayern Munich mistakes to compete them. I would like to imagine them playing with Haaland in the team this finished season, would the end be the same?
Good reward u say. Lol. I would take the line " It keeps their business running". It doesn't allow them to be relegated due to Bankruptcy and that's fine by the board.  If you take a look at this situation, there was a time when Arsenal was completely into this.  No affinity for any European competitions, no affinity for top 5 positions, only playing for the love of it and the name " football". But these past two seasons show that Arsenal is getting tired of just playing for fun. The same is Borrusia Dortmund. But these two teams find it very difficult to bounce back to trophy-winning ways cuz they have already lost their confidence and potential. It will take a lot more than a good coach, and players for them to win a trophy cuz already they have that old parasite in them.

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June 23, 2023, 06:22:20 AM
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from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.
Dortmund's circulation will still be in the same situation even for the next few seasons. Admittedly, Dortmund is always surprising because they competed with Bayern Munich starting almost from the middle of the season, but in the end they were unable to close the season with the Bundesliga trophy.

On the other hand, the factor of players being sold by Dortmund will always be the reason for their failure to win the bundesliga title and it's no wonder they will continue to experience the same thing every season. I think that right now there is no team that can really stop Bayern Munich's domination, if there is one, only Dortmund, that is only a threat.
That is also inseparable from the decline shown by Bayern Munich in the last few seasons, so it is difficult for me to judge whether Borussia Dortmund is getting better, or on the contrary, Borussia Dortmund is at the same level and Bayern Munich is increasingly showing its decline. The last season in 2022/2023 was a very tense season even though it was closed with Bayern Munich who managed to win the title using the draw that Borussi Dortmund obtained in their last match.
I have faith, if Borussia Dortmund can raise their level, then next season it is not impossible that Borussia Dortmund will win the Bundesliga title.

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Bayern Munich announced some minutes ago they have signed ex BVB player Raphael Guerreiro who's contract in Dortmund ended after last season.

History repeating itself.

How a player, being in Dortmund for 7 years, can go to Bayern is just  Roll Eyes .

Going to the biggest rival always looks a little bit bad but I of course know that's the business. I hope he won't have any success in Munich and win 0 titles, hahahaha. Hope you guys know that's sarcasm from a long time BVB supporter here, not more and not less.

Heya BVB.

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Bayern Munich are still not rushing anything about a centre-forward transfer. I haven't seen a big rumour linking any striker to them these days. They are focused on other positions more currently. But they must be aware of the importance of signing a solid striker this summer on one hand. Because there wouldn't be a big change by only keeping Choupo-Moting and having Mane in the position sometimes.

They have seen this clearly by this season. I wonder whether Tuchel has someone in his mind to recommend to the board. If I were in their place I would have prioritized the striker transfer. There are really nice options in the market but acting faster than other top teams would be better.

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Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy
It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.


This plan looks set to continue. Borussia Dortmund has been following this strategy for a long time. They are making a serious profit. They do not want to give up this gain. They wouldn't have sent Bellingham if the Bundesliga title had been their goal.

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June 23, 2023, 09:36:04 AM
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Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy
It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.


This plan looks set to continue. Borussia Dortmund has been following this strategy for a long time. They are making a serious profit. They do not want to give up this gain. They wouldn't have sent Bellingham if the Bundesliga title had been their goal.

It seems you have no clue how the business works.
They tried to extend Bellingham's contract, offered him more money as well. But Madrid pays WAY more money than they can offer. Also Bellingham denied to extend his contract, even only for 1 year. He wanted to go to Real.

So, what's better, getting 100+ million or keeping a player that wants to be somewhere else? They learned from Aubameyang and Dembele, if a guy wants to go by all means it's not worth fighting.

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Bayern Munich are still not rushing anything about a centre-forward transfer. I haven't seen a big rumour linking any striker to them these days. They are focused on other positions more currently. But they must be aware of the importance of signing a solid striker this summer on one hand. Because there wouldn't be a big change by only keeping Choupo-Moting and having Mane in the position sometimes.
In the last season, Bayern planed to use Mane as a replacement for Lewandowski but after a first few good matches, Mane got injury and never played well for Bayern in rest of season. Then they luckily got Choupo-Moting good performance but it is not enough for them to compete in Champions League. In addition in Bundesliga, they lost control and only won it with slippery performance in the last match from Dortmund as well as excellent strike from Musiala in last minutes of the season.

They are not in rush, maybe because they still believe in Mane come back but who are sure about that and Choupo-Moting might not be able to replace his performance as good as in the past season.

Dortmund's circulation will still be in the same situation even for the next few seasons.

On the other hand, the factor of players being sold by Dortmund will always be the reason for their failure to win the bundesliga title and it's no wonder they will continue to experience the same thing every season. I think that right now there is no team that can really stop Bayern Munich's domination, if there is one, only Dortmund, that is only a threat.
They will repeat their race with Bayern and be like a strongest competitor against Bayern in Bundesliga but they will not be able to win Bundesliga. The cycle is repeating in the last 11 seasons since a transfer of Marco Reus to Dortmund. I wish best for Reus and hopefully he will win one Bundesliga with Dortmund before his retirement.

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Borussia Dortmund manager Edin Terzi is in ideal positions to achieve his objectives, but the board keeps releasing key players, jeopardizing the club's chances of winning the Bundesliga. If one can recurred the club's past and present deals, they sold out talented players who, if present in the club at the time, would most likely have a different story. Borrusia Dortmund are more concerned with trophies; they need to start winning titles because it's becoming clear that they produce their funds by transferring their talented and promising players to outstanding teams, which is a huge loss on their part.

At this point I don't even think money is the reason they sell players to Bayern Munich. I said so because they sell their players very cheap to Bayern. If any club that's not Bayern Munich goes for a Dortmund player, they will slap a very high price tag on the player, but if it was Bayern, they player will leave for almost nothing.
Just recently Raphaël Guerreiro joined Bayern Munich from Dortmund for free. So how exactly is Dortmund making any money out of that.
Some times I wonder if all the Bundesliga teams play for Bayern Munich, especially Dortmund.

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RB Leipzig have completed the signing of Christoph Baumgartner from TSG Hoffenheim.

The 23-year-old attacking midfielder has signed a contract with 'Die Roten Bullen' until 2028.
https://bulinews.com/news/17828/rb-leipzig-complete-signing-baumgartner

It's good to see that leipzig gets a new attacking midfielder but i don't understand why leipzig keeps adding more and more attacking midfielder. Even romano has been also saying if leipzig was very close to take fabio carvalho as loan from liverpool which make the things become even more complicated.

Liepzig has so many attacking midfileder now. dominik szoboszlai has been rumored to leave from leipzig in summer, but it's not yet clear what clubs that will become his new destination.

Dani olmo has been also extending his contract in leipzig.

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