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June 23, 2023, 01:58:06 AM
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Congratulation to union berlin for getting fair play of the season award.

The award goes to this nomination by union berlin.

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After Sheraldo Becker's deflected strike put the visitors 2-1 up away to Schalke – en route to a 6-1 triumph – the players celebrate the goal. However, upon noticing that a pitch-side photographer slips and hurts himself while trying to capture their joy, the players interrupt their celebrations to call for medical help. After receiving some treatment, the photographer makes a full recovery.
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It would bring me great joy if more and more teams abide by the rules of fair play. It's not only about winning or losing in the game. It's also about how we can respect our opponent. We may become opponents in the field, but respect for others must not be gone.

I hope that more and more players will respect and try to take care of its opponent.

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June 23, 2023, 02:48:31 AM
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from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.
Dortmund's circulation will still be in the same situation even for the next few seasons. Admittedly, Dortmund is always surprising because they competed with Bayern Munich starting almost from the middle of the season, but in the end they were unable to close the season with the Bundesliga trophy.

On the other hand, the factor of players being sold by Dortmund will always be the reason for their failure to win the bundesliga title and it's no wonder they will continue to experience the same thing every season. I think that right now there is no team that can really stop Bayern Munich's domination, if there is one, only Dortmund, that is only a threat.

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June 23, 2023, 03:19:51 AM
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Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy
It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.

if you have said about business, this is a very absolute decision and cannot be changed anymore. I know Dortmund will only score young players with good talent and sell them, but at least once in a while they have to give their fans the best.
some cups would be better even though it can't compete with Bayern Munich.

but unfortunately this is very difficult when it comes to thinking about business.

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June 23, 2023, 03:32:29 AM
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from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.
The tactic used by Arsenal in the past and currently by Dortmund and Leipzig is fruitful for these teams since it keeps their business running smoothly with a good reward. Prizes come in a second position when you see what they are doing.
For Dortmund, they are counting on Bayern Munich mistakes to compete them. I would like to imagine them playing with Haaland in the team this finished season, would the end be the same?
Good reward u say. Lol. I would take the line " It keeps their business running". It doesn't allow them to be relegated due to Bankruptcy and that's fine by the board.  If you take a look at this situation, there was a time when Arsenal was completely into this.  No affinity for any European competitions, no affinity for top 5 positions, only playing for the love of it and the name " football". But these past two seasons show that Arsenal is getting tired of just playing for fun. The same is Borrusia Dortmund. But these two teams find it very difficult to bounce back to trophy-winning ways cuz they have already lost their confidence and potential. It will take a lot more than a good coach, and players for them to win a trophy cuz already they have that old parasite in them.

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June 23, 2023, 06:22:20 AM
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from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.
Dortmund's circulation will still be in the same situation even for the next few seasons. Admittedly, Dortmund is always surprising because they competed with Bayern Munich starting almost from the middle of the season, but in the end they were unable to close the season with the Bundesliga trophy.

On the other hand, the factor of players being sold by Dortmund will always be the reason for their failure to win the bundesliga title and it's no wonder they will continue to experience the same thing every season. I think that right now there is no team that can really stop Bayern Munich's domination, if there is one, only Dortmund, that is only a threat.
That is also inseparable from the decline shown by Bayern Munich in the last few seasons, so it is difficult for me to judge whether Borussia Dortmund is getting better, or on the contrary, Borussia Dortmund is at the same level and Bayern Munich is increasingly showing its decline. The last season in 2022/2023 was a very tense season even though it was closed with Bayern Munich who managed to win the title using the draw that Borussi Dortmund obtained in their last match.
I have faith, if Borussia Dortmund can raise their level, then next season it is not impossible that Borussia Dortmund will win the Bundesliga title.

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June 23, 2023, 08:34:03 AM
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Bayern Munich announced some minutes ago they have signed ex BVB player Raphael Guerreiro who's contract in Dortmund ended after last season.

History repeating itself.

How a player, being in Dortmund for 7 years, can go to Bayern is just  Roll Eyes .

Going to the biggest rival always looks a little bit bad but I of course know that's the business. I hope he won't have any success in Munich and win 0 titles, hahahaha. Hope you guys know that's sarcasm from a long time BVB supporter here, not more and not less.

Heya BVB.

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Bayern Munich are still not rushing anything about a centre-forward transfer. I haven't seen a big rumour linking any striker to them these days. They are focused on other positions more currently. But they must be aware of the importance of signing a solid striker this summer on one hand. Because there wouldn't be a big change by only keeping Choupo-Moting and having Mane in the position sometimes.

They have seen this clearly by this season. I wonder whether Tuchel has someone in his mind to recommend to the board. If I were in their place I would have prioritized the striker transfer. There are really nice options in the market but acting faster than other top teams would be better.

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However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy
It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.


This plan looks set to continue. Borussia Dortmund has been following this strategy for a long time. They are making a serious profit. They do not want to give up this gain. They wouldn't have sent Bellingham if the Bundesliga title had been their goal.

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June 23, 2023, 09:36:04 AM
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Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy
It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

That's not about Bellingham or Haaland the last season that's about the Borussia Dortmund business they have, Dortmund is a team that grows young talents and then they sell these players to earn money. I think this if they change their plan any time soon.


This plan looks set to continue. Borussia Dortmund has been following this strategy for a long time. They are making a serious profit. They do not want to give up this gain. They wouldn't have sent Bellingham if the Bundesliga title had been their goal.

It seems you have no clue how the business works.
They tried to extend Bellingham's contract, offered him more money as well. But Madrid pays WAY more money than they can offer. Also Bellingham denied to extend his contract, even only for 1 year. He wanted to go to Real.

So, what's better, getting 100+ million or keeping a player that wants to be somewhere else? They learned from Aubameyang and Dembele, if a guy wants to go by all means it's not worth fighting.

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June 23, 2023, 10:17:22 AM
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Bayern Munich are still not rushing anything about a centre-forward transfer. I haven't seen a big rumour linking any striker to them these days. They are focused on other positions more currently. But they must be aware of the importance of signing a solid striker this summer on one hand. Because there wouldn't be a big change by only keeping Choupo-Moting and having Mane in the position sometimes.
In the last season, Bayern planed to use Mane as a replacement for Lewandowski but after a first few good matches, Mane got injury and never played well for Bayern in rest of season. Then they luckily got Choupo-Moting good performance but it is not enough for them to compete in Champions League. In addition in Bundesliga, they lost control and only won it with slippery performance in the last match from Dortmund as well as excellent strike from Musiala in last minutes of the season.

They are not in rush, maybe because they still believe in Mane come back but who are sure about that and Choupo-Moting might not be able to replace his performance as good as in the past season.

Dortmund's circulation will still be in the same situation even for the next few seasons.

On the other hand, the factor of players being sold by Dortmund will always be the reason for their failure to win the bundesliga title and it's no wonder they will continue to experience the same thing every season. I think that right now there is no team that can really stop Bayern Munich's domination, if there is one, only Dortmund, that is only a threat.
They will repeat their race with Bayern and be like a strongest competitor against Bayern in Bundesliga but they will not be able to win Bundesliga. The cycle is repeating in the last 11 seasons since a transfer of Marco Reus to Dortmund. I wish best for Reus and hopefully he will win one Bundesliga with Dortmund before his retirement.

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Borussia Dortmund manager Edin Terzi is in ideal positions to achieve his objectives, but the board keeps releasing key players, jeopardizing the club's chances of winning the Bundesliga. If one can recurred the club's past and present deals, they sold out talented players who, if present in the club at the time, would most likely have a different story. Borrusia Dortmund are more concerned with trophies; they need to start winning titles because it's becoming clear that they produce their funds by transferring their talented and promising players to outstanding teams, which is a huge loss on their part.

At this point I don't even think money is the reason they sell players to Bayern Munich. I said so because they sell their players very cheap to Bayern. If any club that's not Bayern Munich goes for a Dortmund player, they will slap a very high price tag on the player, but if it was Bayern, they player will leave for almost nothing.
Just recently Raphaël Guerreiro joined Bayern Munich from Dortmund for free. So how exactly is Dortmund making any money out of that.
Some times I wonder if all the Bundesliga teams play for Bayern Munich, especially Dortmund.

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RB Leipzig have completed the signing of Christoph Baumgartner from TSG Hoffenheim.

The 23-year-old attacking midfielder has signed a contract with 'Die Roten Bullen' until 2028.
https://bulinews.com/news/17828/rb-leipzig-complete-signing-baumgartner

It's good to see that leipzig gets a new attacking midfielder but i don't understand why leipzig keeps adding more and more attacking midfielder. Even romano has been also saying if leipzig was very close to take fabio carvalho as loan from liverpool which make the things become even more complicated.

Liepzig has so many attacking midfileder now. dominik szoboszlai has been rumored to leave from leipzig in summer, but it's not yet clear what clubs that will become his new destination.

Dani olmo has been also extending his contract in leipzig.

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June 23, 2023, 11:03:57 AM
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from the previous two seasons Dortmund were closer to Bayern Munich and this could be a sign that Dortmund already seems to have the desire to get a trophy this new season.
maybe a lot of Dortmund fans hope that their favorite team can rise to an amazing history in the summer with the trophies they can get.

but to be honest I'm a little doubtful about all of this because Dortmund lost some of their best players.
Dortmund's circulation will still be in the same situation even for the next few seasons. Admittedly, Dortmund is always surprising because they competed with Bayern Munich starting almost from the middle of the season, but in the end they were unable to close the season with the Bundesliga trophy.

On the other hand, the factor of players being sold by Dortmund will always be the reason for their failure to win the bundesliga title and it's no wonder they will continue to experience the same thing every season. I think that right now there is no team that can really stop Bayern Munich's domination, if there is one, only Dortmund, that is only a threat.
That is also inseparable from the decline shown by Bayern Munich in the last few seasons, so it is difficult for me to judge whether Borussia Dortmund is getting better, or on the contrary, Borussia Dortmund is at the same level and Bayern Munich is increasingly showing its decline. The last season in 2022/2023 was a very tense season even though it was closed with Bayern Munich who managed to win the title using the draw that Borussi Dortmund obtained in their last match.
I have faith, if Borussia Dortmund can raise their level, then next season it is not impossible that Borussia Dortmund will win the Bundesliga title.
The football scene has undergone a significant change in recent years generating concerns about the relative strength of Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund. Bayern Munich has unmistakably exhibited indications of deterioration but it is also debatable if Borussia Dortmund has actually advanced or is only maintaining their current position. The 2022/2023 season tension peaked when Bayern Munich won the championship thanks to a critical draw that Borussia Dortmund earned in their final game. However Dortmund fans have hope and faith in the future as they see a chance for their team to improve performance and challenge for the Bundesliga title in the coming season. Only time will tell if this optimism results in victory for Borussia Dortmund.

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I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the Bundesliga and this time just like the last two seasons we saw from Dortmund I'm waiting to see another young talent growing up in this team like they had Haalnd and Jude Bellingham before and they sold both.
Maybe this time Dortmund will sell another young talent to mean more just like what they did in the past.


What they have done in the last season is about what they did in the seasons before as well. i mean the overall result. But when their goal is to finally overturn Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga, the result has to be much better this time and I say much better because I don't believe that Bayern will underdeliver again like they did last season. Often times when Bayern got into danger or their titles got into danger, the response was that they became much better afterwards. And it would be nothing but a surprise if they have the same chaos again. Therefore, if Dortmund wants the top of the table, there can't be any excuses in any of the games that are a must win game on paper. They have to meet the expectations then.

That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.

It is not so much about their business and their choice, but about they money they have available. Borussia Dortmund is a publicly listed company and they owe justification to their shareholders. It is not always an advantage for a club to be publicly listed as we can see here because their goal was to raise money and invest it into the team back when they went public. Now it is hard to go full rogue and make a decision and say something like "we don't sell player X for 120m" because if it goes wrong their share price will suffer and shareholders want an explanation. They have now to find a good spot for their decision making processes and for now they can't compete with Bayern and, consequently, not with rich clubs from abroad.

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June 23, 2023, 04:20:15 PM
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At this point I don't even think money is the reason they sell players to Bayern Munich. I said so because they sell their players very cheap to Bayern. If any club that's not Bayern Munich goes for a Dortmund player, they will slap a very high price tag on the player, but if it was Bayern, they player will leave for almost nothing.
Just recently Raphaël Guerreiro joined Bayern Munich from Dortmund for free. So how exactly is Dortmund making any money out of that.
Some times I wonder if all the Bundesliga teams play for Bayern Munich, especially Dortmund.
Its not doubt about football business era right now by selling their player to other team with higher values, but what did by Dortmund seems contrast because sell their player to rival teams or give chance to Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga by selling their star player. Recently, Dortmund failed give extend contract to Raphaël Guerreiro and he has joined Bayern Munich with free agent and seems most disappointed for Dortmund losing potential player with free.

Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.

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Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.
After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

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Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.
After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.

If you remember, how was when Dortmund sold Haaland and most of us considered Dortmund to be weak and hard to score goals. But the fact is, Dortmund can still be very competitive in the race for the title after Haaland left and what's more, Dortmund can still produce great players and immediately release them in this transfer window. So yes, it doesn't matter how many great players are willing to be released and or sold by Dortmund, because in the end Dortmund will always be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.

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This plan looks set to continue. Borussia Dortmund has been following this strategy for a long time. They are making a serious profit. They do not want to give up this gain. They wouldn't have sent Bellingham if the Bundesliga title had been their goal.
The business that has been run by Borussia Dortmund for a long time is still proving to be very effective now by continuing to make money through their players, but in terms of the Bundesliga title I think Borussia Dortmund is also still thinking about it because last season Borussia Dortmund seemed to be competing with Bayern Munich in the standings until end of season. This indicates that Borussia Dortmund still has the desire to become champions in the Bundesliga even though they have not stopped running the business they have been doing for a long time.

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June 23, 2023, 05:07:13 PM
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Dortmund has made much money from transfer player, they have great scout talent how to make many young player have consistent performance and increasing up their values after one until three years with Dortmund. But one weakness side from Dortmund they not try to stop Bayern keep dominance in Bundesliga and has priority how to promote young player on every season for increasing their transfer market values.
After what Dortmund did last season, i don't have any hope in them to stop the dominance of Bayern munich in the bundesliga, Dortmund is a football club that are comfortable with not winning, Bayern were bad last season, but still won the bundesliga because Dortmund gave it to them. They have now sold Bellingham to Real madrid, so their team is now much weaker than it was last season, because of this i don't think Dortmund has any chance for the bundesliga next season. Bayern's dominance will continue, until another team that's not Dortmund improves and stops it.
Even though I still hope that Borussia dortmund can still have the opportunity to be able to replace Bayern Munich, but it is very disappointing after hearing the news that they are selling their best players again to other clubs.
It is undeniable that Borussia dortmund will not be concerned with trophies or titles but they will be concerned with their own financial business without thinking about the title they have to get and give their fans pride.

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June 23, 2023, 05:10:44 PM
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I really think that the supporters of Dortmund should actually push them to go for trophies at this point. Otherwise, they are going to do the same thing again and again. I actually feel sorry for the fans because if the clan is not interested in winning why are they even supporting them? Is it worth watching the games and paying the ticket bills, if Dortmund is not actually aiming to win trophies? I personally don’t think so.
How should the supporters of Dortmund push them or the managment to go for trophies ?
Next thing is do you really think that they not are aiming for getting trophies , they are doing that every season even when they got Haaland and Bellingham in the past.

And yes, if they do not change their tactics Bayern Munich is certainly going to be having longer reign on the Bundesliga title this season there was a great chance for Dortmund. Only if they were interested in winning trophies.
Sounds like you really dont have any idea of the German League and of the last years and Dortmund.
I guess every team are aiming to win titles and other things.

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