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May 25, 2024, 09:39:03 PM
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The arrival of Kane to Munich has a very positive effect on Bayern Munich goal productivity in the Bundesliga this season, even Kane, who this season is his first season at Bayern Munich, can immediately blend into Bayern Munich game and even Kane immediately became Bayern Munich mainstay in the front line, Kane sharpness so far is not in doubt in terms of scoring goals and the proof is that in his first season in the Bundesliga Kane can immediately become the top scorer with 36 goals Successfully scored by him this season, the slick performance shown by is precisely the opposite of Bayern Munich current performance in the league, when Kane and other players are able to support each other in their every attack, but I think the their defense is still not solid in defending the victory.

At this time, Kane performance is not able to make Bayern Munich compete for the title, and I think indeed in addition to defense, of course Bayern Munich must evaluate Tuchel performance so far at Bayern Munich, which does have bad statistics, at this time Tuchel has officially resigned from his position as Munich coach, but now Bayern Munich is starting to find it difficult to find a top coach who will be able to improve their performance next season,  So now after the difficulty of getting a new coach, it makes Munich recruit panic by giving Kompany the position as Munich coach next season and obviously this lowers Munich appetite which has been prioritizing top coaches.
Kane's addition to the German side have been fruitful. He's been a major in their positive game outcomes, even though they're striving to get past their competitor on the table. Kane has been impactful and his contract is still open till 2027 with Munich which gives him ample time to do more with the team. He's been consistent in his job as the striker and he's not stopping at just letting goal chances slip by him. He's quality and his ability speedily increases weekly.

 His time at Tottenham was worthwhile and him joining the German side have even more increased his worthiness to be a standing forward. This is a door to greater football awards opportunity. He's young and has got spare time at his disposal too. So far he's been doing explicitly well for Munich which should be appreciated, even if his time with Tottenham had also been great. It's good he switched to Germany as he's gathered additional experience too.

 Even though he's done his best to score as much goals needed to place him at the toppest stand of the goal scorers in the league, it still isn't enough to place Munich in the 1st placed position either. He's done his best as the striker but generally, it's a team and collective effort to put Munich in the first position spot. This season isn't just the best for them as their performance is greatly different from their usual performances in other seasons. In the few games left this season, Munich still didn't have a chance at the Bundesliga trophy this season. They'll just have to try their luck next season. ⁠Bayern Munich haven’t been their best this season amd surprisingly when they signed Harry Kane, so many thought they’ll be really clear off the league but the reverse happens to be the case. Bayern Munich haven’t been impressive in their performance this season and it’s one thing that the new coach needs to worry about on the perfect tactics for this set of players.
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May 25, 2024, 09:48:07 PM
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At least Leverkusen has won there game against Kaiserslautern today in the german DFB Cup.
And that 45 Minutes with 10 players after a red card means something i guess.

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I havnt seen the game for now but will have a look on the review soon.
Sounds like that they havnt played well?

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May 25, 2024, 09:53:47 PM
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It's obvious that they blame Tuchel for this since they decided to replace him. But what’s surprising is that they agreed to keep him in the team and even negotiated with him about it, but they couldn’t come to an agreement because Tuchel demanded a longer contract, but they signed a contract with Kompany for three years, which also looks too confident on their part , for such a young coach without much experience. This decision seems hasty to me for now, but we’ll see how it ends in a season.
Vincent Kompany is mediocre and we know possibly what he can do and simply what he's incompetent about. Bayern Munich making huge mistakes again. First they sacked Hansi Flick who was just have few minor challenges in the main moments and replaced him with Thomas Tuchel, where did that get them? Ending the season with zero trophy in their collection which happen to be one of the worst years for the Bavarians.

I think the English Premier League even the English Championship is far different from the German league where Vinchave ent Kompany is appointment as the new coach of Bayern Munich. Yes he failed in England not because he is not a good coach but because of the team and the level of players it the team but going to Bayern Munich where football is different from what is in England he may have a good record with Bayern Munich since they will be expecting him to work with the players they have and the players that will be joining the team next season. I don't think it's a mistake by letting Kompany manage the club but he's got a lot of experience from his past records as a coach and coming to one of the biggest team in Germany, getting a good result is what is needed and taking the team back to it's position is his priority nothing else.

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May 25, 2024, 09:59:32 PM
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It's obvious that they blame Tuchel for this since they decided to replace him. But what’s surprising is that they agreed to keep him in the team and even negotiated with him about it, but they couldn’t come to an agreement because Tuchel demanded a longer contract, but they signed a contract with Kompany for three years, which also looks too confident on their part , for such a young coach without much experience. This decision seems hasty to me for now, but we’ll see how it ends in a season.
Vincent Kompany is mediocre and we know possibly what he can do and simply what he's incompetent about. Bayern Munich making huge mistakes again. First they sacked Hansi Flick who was just have few minor challenges in the main moments and replaced him with Thomas Tuchel, where did that get them? Ending the season with zero trophy in their collection which happen to be one of the worst years for the Bavarians.
We never can tell, and for Kompany to coach a small team and get relegated in the EPL doesn’t mean he cannot coach a big team and lead them to success.
If you go through Burnley’s performance this past season in the Premier League, you will
Clearly understand that Vincent Kompany is a manager that can do well when he gets a better team, and Bayern Munich have enough players that can be used by any good coach to win trophy.
I don’t see any mistake in choosing him as their new head coach for next season.

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May 25, 2024, 10:19:03 PM
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Have you known that Frankfurt still have a chance for a Champions League qualification?  Grin  If Dortmund win the Champions League title next week this will help Frankfurt get the extra spot for the tournament.

Normally the Bundesliga is sending 5 teams there after the recent change. However there is still a chance for gaining an extra spot. Dortmund finished the league at the 5th position. Winning the Champions League will easily transfer the extra spot coming from that to the 6th positioned team in the Bundesliga which are Frankfurt. It is a really difficult task for Dortmund when it comes to becoming champions there though. But things can get quite interesting if they do.  Smiley

Really? We will see about that then. I don't want to right them off completely. But what can Borrussia Dortmund do come next weekend, can they hurt Real Madrid in the finals?
The road to the finals haven't been so smooth for them but they have fought hard, they have to finish the final lap if they really want glory.
We've seen stuff's like this before, with Jose Mourinho and Manchester United in the UEFA Champions League Competition so I'm not even surprised.

Congratulations to Bayern Leverkusen and Xabi Alonso as they went ahead to do the double trophy win tonight. The Cup Competition was a wrap today. Losing one game is something I don't consider as failure, they did impressively great thi season.

Vincent Kompany should not be underestimated, I see Josep Pep Guardiola vouching for him, could he really handle the job perfectly well?
These English former legends are not thriving when it comes to managerial experience but the non Brits are, why though?

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May 25, 2024, 10:21:35 PM
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It's obvious that they blame Tuchel for this since they decided to replace him. But what’s surprising is that they agreed to keep him in the team and even negotiated with him about it, but they couldn’t come to an agreement because Tuchel demanded a longer contract, but they signed a contract with Kompany for three years, which also looks too confident on their part , for such a young coach without much experience. This decision seems hasty to me for now, but we’ll see how it ends in a season.
Vincent Kompany is mediocre and we know possibly what he can do and simply what he's incompetent about. Bayern Munich making huge mistakes again. First they sacked Hansi Flick who was just have few minor challenges in the main moments and replaced him with Thomas Tuchel, where did that get them? Ending the season with zero trophy in their collection which happen to be one of the worst years for the Bavarians.
We never can tell, and for Kompany to coach a small team and get relegated in the EPL doesn’t mean he cannot coach a big team and lead them to success.
If you go through Burnley’s performance this past season in the Premier League, you will
Clearly understand that Vincent Kompany is a manager that can do well when he gets a better team, and Bayern Munich have enough players that can be used by any good coach to win trophy.
I don’t see any mistake in choosing him as their new head coach for next season.
Some people were considers this transfer will be failed because Vincent Kompany is mediocre manager moreover Kompany is lack of experience to train big club even Bayern Munich is Kompany first big club during his career as a manager but indeed we cannot be judge him early because the league hasn't starting yet and at Bayern Munich there are plenty of big names available so it's interesting whether Kompany can able to bringing Bayern Munich to performing well again or not but just like i said before he has hard jobs because Kompany have to broke the domination of Leverkusen and gets Bundesliga title again

Talking about Leverkusen finally they can able to beat Kaiserslautern at DFB Pokal final match today with narrow score 1-0 indeed i thought this match would be easy for Leverkusen because in the term of squad quality Leverkusen is above to Kaiserslautern but clearly i was wrong because Kaiserslautern can able to performing well too however this result is good for Leverkusen because after the loses from Atalanta finally they can able to bounce back again and it's very special for Leverkusen because this is their first time in their history to gets double winner in a season

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May 25, 2024, 10:31:33 PM
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The DFB Pokal is coming up, and I think they can win. It would still be a great season for them. Always remember that its about the journey, and they've had a great one.
After their failure in the UEFA Europa League, in the end, Bayer Leverkusen won the DFB-Pokal. Congratulations to those who have finally held 2 medals this season.

Although in fact, it was quite worrying when Odilon got the red card only in the 44th minute, the first half. This is quite scary because Bayer Leverkusen only plays with 10 people. but fortunately they had scored 1 goal first so they were able to handle it quite well. This time the strategy implemented by Xabi was very suitable. Ahh, I remember again about how they played in the Europa League.



https://x.com/bayer04_en/status/1794465070174306540
This trophy just sounds like a consolation for the Europa league title Bayern Leverkusen lost to Atalanta even though they didn't play like before and with the fact they had a red card but yet they were able to still win all the way from first half so the Leverkusen team and Xabi Alonso have been able to win two trophies so despite they didn't win the Europa league but they should be happy for their achievements this season and prepare very well for next season.

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May 25, 2024, 11:00:38 PM
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I also see that Bayern Munich didn't get much benefit after replacing their old coach with Thomas Tuchel. So Bayern Munich ended the season without bringing home any trophies except to save themselves from qualifying for the UCL next season. This is of course quite painful for Bayern Munich, where before this season they often dominated the Bundesliga and became champions here, but for this season all that has disappeared since the arrival of Thomas Tuchel and the rise of Leverkusen which has made Munich's every step more chaotic.
Winning the league title every season is something they should expect to be broken at a time and such expected time is now just as it did happened this season, Bayern Munich not been able to win this seasons title doesn't make them any less of a tough team or making them looking like they aren't a top team or Strong enough to contend in the bundesliga again so I'm of the opinion that they shouldn't be criticize like they had a very terrible performance after all they were able to still qualify for the champions league next season.

Next season avails an opportunity for them to be able to bounce back and maintaining the title if they really want to again as it wasn't said they must be the only team in German to win the bundesliga as that alone in itself is even very boring. Tuchel actually didn't get to achieve much since he took over from the former coach so it wouldn't be totally out of place to say that they haven't experienced much change rather it feels like they got to drop their form a little in that what they usually achieve every season before now couldn't be achieved this season.

Even in theirpoor form, been able to qualify for the champions league is actually a fair finish for the bundesliga giant as they made it as the runner up and not just finishing at the point that git them qualifying for the champions league because almost any team can finish top four and eventually qualify for the champions league next season but at the second position isn't just an easy one for any team and so it's a fair finish for munich.

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May 25, 2024, 11:13:04 PM
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After their failure in the UEFA Europa League, in the end, Bayer Leverkusen won the DFB-Pokal. Congratulations to those who have finally held 2 medals this season.
Bayer Leverkusen can win all the domestic competitions at least. So, they never got a defeat in all domestic matches during this season. It is also a good record, only very limited teams that can do this record. Leverkusen won 2 trophies, it is cool achievement for a new rising team like Leverkusen. It is quite good for them. Congratulations!!  Smiley

Although in fact, it was quite worrying when Odilon got the red card only in the 44th minute, the first half. This is quite scary because Bayer Leverkusen only plays with 10 people. but fortunately they had scored 1 goal first so they were able to handle it quite well. This time the strategy implemented by Xabi was very suitable. Ahh, I remember again about how they played in the Europa League.
Again, Xabi Alonso never stopped to do an experiment in using substitution player in a very crucial match. It is lucky that they don't play against a strong team in DFB Pokal final. If they play against Bayern Munich or Dortmund, I think Bayer Leverkusen will fail to win the trophy of DFB Pokal, too. To be honest, I don't understand why Xabi Alonso put Odilon as a starter in this final match. They still have Josip Stanisic and Piero Hincapié who have more experience in playing this season. Why Xabi prefer to use Odilon? I think Xabi doesn't use a suitable strategy. It is another wrong tactic, he must avoid this in the next season.



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May 25, 2024, 11:47:02 PM
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The DFB Pokal is coming up, and I think they can win. It would still be a great season for them. Always remember that its about the journey, and they've had a great one.
After their failure in the UEFA Europa League, in the end, Bayer Leverkusen won the DFB-Pokal. Congratulations to those who have finally held 2 medals this season.

Although in fact, it was quite worrying when Odilon got the red card only in the 44th minute, the first half. This is quite scary because Bayer Leverkusen only plays with 10 people. but fortunately they had scored 1 goal first so they were able to handle it quite well. This time the strategy implemented by Xabi was very suitable. Ahh, I remember again about how they played in the Europa League.



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In 53 official matches, Leverkusen managed to go 52 matches unbeaten, and only suffered one defeat, namely in the Europa League Final against Atalanta. Leverkusen impressive season ended with success in winning the DFB Pokal trophy, completing the Bundesliga trophy they had previously won. Xabi fleet deserves high appreciation from all parties, even though the painful defeat to Atalanta has prevented them from winning the treble winner.

Xabi is the key figure behind all the success of Leverkusen this season, he deserves to be in Ganjar as the best manager in the Bundesliga, he managed to issue all the best potential in each player. The records they set will be very difficult for any team to surpass in the future, even for themselves.

Leverkusen ended the season by successfully winning 2 trophies, and that has changed the history of the club as a whole. Now Xabi will be faced with the transfer window, how he will retain a number of important players at the club so they don't leave, while recruiting new players to add depth to the squad. Playing in the Champions League is certainly more difficult than the Europa League, we'll see what Xabi will do in this transfer window.

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May 26, 2024, 04:32:26 AM
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After their failure in the UEFA Europa League, in the end, Bayer Leverkusen won the DFB-Pokal. Congratulations to those who have finally held 2 medals this season.
Bayer Leverkusen treble accomplishment shattered and they have to settle for two titles this season. The DFB-Pokal was important for Bayer Leverkussen after failing to win Atalanta in the Europa League final. They've been one the promising club this season with just a defeat. Xabi Alonso is currently the main instrument, he has helped his club deliver good news and will always do the pushing moves to making things running smoothly.

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May 26, 2024, 05:08:48 AM
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Once again Granit Xhaka scored a beautiful goal and this time he did it in the DFB Pokal final against Kaiserslautern. That was also the only goal scored in this match and also locked up Leverkusen's second trophy this season. I think the previous failure in the European League final was enough to teach Xabi Alonso's squad and they immediately improved in another final this time.

Of the 53 matches in all competitions, they only lost 1 time and this was an achievement that had never been previously expected. How Xabi Alonso turned Leverkusen into a threat is very real this season. It won't just stop at this season but they will continue it in all competitions next season. Maybe Leverkusen will still be consistent enough, but if they are undefeated again they will find it difficult to do that.
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May 26, 2024, 06:44:31 AM
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After their failure in the UEFA Europa League, in the end, Bayer Leverkusen won the DFB-Pokal. Congratulations to those who have finally held 2 medals this season.
Bayer Leverkusen treble accomplishment shattered and they have to settle for two titles this season. The DFB-Pokal was important for Bayer Leverkussen after failing to win Atalanta in the Europa League final. They've been one the promising club this season with just a defeat. Xabi Alonso is currently the main instrument, he has helped his club deliver good news and will always do the pushing moves to making things running smoothly.

It's a shame, even though I'm pretty sure Leverkusen is capable of overthrowing Atalanta. after that, won the DFB Pokal trophy. Thus, Alonso and his squad achieved a fantastic achievement by collecting three championship titles in different events. Unfortunately, their hopes were dashed after they were unable to beat Atalanta in the Europa League Final. However, Leverkusen did not allow the other team to take another trophy. Even though the DFB Pokal is not as elite as the Europa League or Bundesliga, making a mark as DFB Pokal champions is very important for them. At least, Leverkusen won two trophies this season. In the end, even though they were only able to collect two trophies, high appreciation should be given to this team. Alonso and his squad played this season with high enthusiasm, unfortunately they lost once and that was in the Europa Final match. but it doesn't matter, after all the proudest achievement is the Bundesliga. why, it's clear, because in the last decade Bayern Munich has always dominated the German League competition. now, the season has ended for Leverkusen. What's interesting is who Alonso will bring to BayArena to strengthen his team's squad for the new season. Apart from that, several of Leverkusen's core players are being targeted by several elite clubs. So, Alonso must be prepared to defend it. Or, look for a much more reliable option. For this season, I give high appreciation to all levels involved in the Leverkusen club. because next season, it's still a mystery.


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May 26, 2024, 07:31:25 AM
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After their failure in the UEFA Europa League, in the end, Bayer Leverkusen won the DFB-Pokal. Congratulations to those who have finally held 2 medals this season.
Bayer Leverkusen treble accomplishment shattered and they have to settle for two titles this season. The DFB-Pokal was important for Bayer Leverkussen after failing to win Atalanta in the Europa League final. They've been one the promising club this season with just a defeat. Xabi Alonso is currently the main instrument, he has helped his club deliver good news and will always do the pushing moves to making things running smoothly.
Even though they failed to get the treble winner, what they got this season in my opinion was more than enough, they became Bundesliga champions with an unbeaten record and they became champions in the DFB Pokal. Even if they can only win 1 title this season (Bundesliga) that will also be enough for them. Because my focus at the moment is that they should not be too euphoric about what they have now, celebrating is fine because this is their success, but they must quickly focus on the next season.

Next season is a very important season for them, because I think there are so many people waiting for them next season. There are many people who want to see what they can do next season, especially in the Champions League. People's expectations of them are getting bigger and bigger, and they have to answer all these expectations with good performance and be able to compete in the highest competitions in Europe.

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May 26, 2024, 08:46:46 AM
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Next season is a very important season for them, because I think there are so many people waiting for them next season. There are many people who want to see what they can do next season, especially in the Champions League. People's expectations of them are getting bigger and bigger, and they have to answer all these expectations with good performance and be able to compete in the highest competitions in Europe.
It would be a shame if we see something again what happend to Union Berlin this season , that they will be the total opposite next season.
But i guess that this will be not the case in Leverkusen , fingers crossed.
I think that they show us some nice good performance again next season.
But the most focus of all the players are next is the coming EM for those that playing it.

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May 26, 2024, 09:26:03 AM
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I don't think its possibility for Frankfurt qualifying to Champion League next season because Bundesliga competition having five participants as 1st until 5th standings teams. Indeed Dortmund winning the Champion League tittle or not Frankfurt seems not qualify to Champion League because their current standings on 6th position place. The same with Serie A after Atalanta success winning the Europe League still has 5 teams get participants in Champion League but difference cases if Atalanta fail reach the 5th position and Roma will qualified to Champion League as 5th standings position team.
I think Frankfurt opportunity for playing in Champion League is impossible because their current finish outside from champion league spot standings position.

No, it is really possible for Frankfurt. Unlike the thing you said, Dortmund had to finish at the fifth position for this to be possible and they did.  Smiley  Now in case of winning the Champions League title this is going to get real.

You can check it out on this source as well and there are others telling the same thing too: https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/eintracht-frankfurt-may-need-a-loss-to-secure-champions-league/

In the same way, Atalanta have to finish the season at the fifth position to give Roma the opportunity to join the Champions League. Therefore the Serie A and Bundesliga have a potential extra spot in addition to the one they have already got.  Wink  Let's see any of these things will really happen. Frankfurt's chance might be lower as Dortmund are facing Real Madrid. Atalanta also have two more games to play though.

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Finally this defender is departing from Hoffenheim as free agent.
This season he played 23 matches in bundesliga and dfb pokal, netted 2 ball, got 6 yellow & 1 red.

One team I would like to see some improvement from in the Bundesliga is Hoffenheim. For quite a few seasons now they have been either finishing on the mid table or finishing on that bottom-top/lower-top side of the table. I don't think in the last five seasons they have been able to finish in a position from where they have participated in the Champions League. The best they have done is the Europa League. And that was back in the 2019-20 season.

After that, this is probably the first time they will be taking part in any European competitions if I am not wrong. it would be great to see some improvement from them finally. Because they have been hovering around the same level for quite a long time. It would be nice to see them push for the top four positions. But I guess as they have finished 12th in the last season, we can say that this season has been a display of better performance from them. But I think the performance from them could be and should be better.

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May 26, 2024, 09:44:32 AM
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No, it is really possible for Frankfurt. Unlike the thing you said, Dortmund had to finish at the fifth position for this to be possible and they did.  Smiley  Now in case of winning the Champions League title this is going to get real.

You can check it out on this source as well and there are others telling the same thing too: https://worldsoccertalk.com/news/eintracht-frankfurt-may-need-a-loss-to-secure-champions-league/

In the same way, Atalanta have to finish the season at the fifth position to give Roma the opportunity to join the Champions League. Therefore the Serie A and Bundesliga have a potential extra spot in addition to the one they have already got.  Wink  Let's see any of these things will really happen. Frankfurt's chance might be lower as Dortmund are facing Real Madrid. Atalanta also have two more games to play though.

This could be a big gift for Frankfurt, but are they ready to play on equal terms in the Champions League, or would it be better for them to play in El, where their chances of passing the playoffs would be higher? Of course, any team would like to play in the Champions League, from this point of view it is clear that Frankfurt will hope for Dortmund to win the Champions League final, but how realistic is it to beat Real Madrid now?

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May 26, 2024, 10:04:24 AM
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Once again Granit Xhaka scored a beautiful goal and this time he did it in the DFB Pokal final against Kaiserslautern. That was also the only goal scored in this match and also locked up Leverkusen's second trophy this season. I think the previous failure in the European League final was enough to teach Xabi Alonso's squad and they immediately improved in another final this time.

Of the 53 matches in all competitions, they only lost 1 time and this was an achievement that had never been previously expected. How Xabi Alonso turned Leverkusen into a threat is very real this season. It won't just stop at this season but they will continue it in all competitions next season. Maybe Leverkusen will still be consistent enough, but if they are undefeated again they will find it difficult to do that.
I admit that 1 score that Xhaka managed to get was a very beautiful kick from a distance that could be right on target, I was even amazed to see the kick but I was just a little disappointed if the good opportunity when Xhaka got the ball in front of the goal failed to score even though it was very easy to score and for me 1 score is a very unsafe score.
but fortunately after Odilon received a red card and had to leave the field, Leverkusen performance did not decline and actually got stronger.
just imagine what if Odilon didn't get a red card, Leverkusen would definitely score in large numbers.
but it seems like Leverkusen doesn't want to score a big amount in this match, as seen from Xhaka who seemed to waste this good opportunity and also Frimpong wasted an opportunity when he was in front of the Kaiserslautern goalkeeper.

IMO, failure in the European League will not provide motivation for Xabi to get the DFB title, but this mistake will be corrected for the next appearance in the UCL and regarding this victory, this is not the motivation for this defeat because this DFB competition is very easy for Leverkusen to get when it comes to performance Kaiserslautern is not on par with Leverkusen.
I congratulate Leverkusen and Xabi who have succeeded in getting a good history this season and it looks like next season Leverkusen will have to bring in at least one experienced star player to be able to continue the positive trend of trying to get the title in the UCL.

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May 26, 2024, 11:57:14 AM
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After their failure in the UEFA Europa League, in the end, Bayer Leverkusen won the DFB-Pokal. Congratulations to those who have finally held 2 medals this season.
Bayer Leverkusen can win all the domestic competitions at least. So, they never got a defeat in all domestic matches during this season. It is also a good record, only very limited teams that can do this record. Leverkusen won 2 trophies, it is cool achievement for a new rising team like Leverkusen. It is quite good for them. Congratulations!!  Smiley
Indeed Bayern Leverkusen tried even though they didn't finish the season in an unbeaten run in all competitions but they did finish the Bundesliga in an unbeaten run so they are the first team to set such a record which can be difficult for any other team to achieve within a short time. The record alone has set them outstanding in the Bundesliga and for them to win the trophy and the DFB Pokal is a huge achievement for them so they shouldn't feel bad that they didn't add the Europa league trophy but if they continue in this performance they can still win European titles in the future.

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