Bitcoin XT - Officially #REKT (also goes for BIP101 fraud)

[iCEBREAKER]

So, the Goldman Sachs funded corporations (Circle etc) that were pushing for XT...

Don't use the past tense.  Mike_Hearn@sigint.google.mil is still pushing for XT.  Fellow Gavinista R. Ver is furiously hyping (yet another) new rump forum at bitcone.com.

Their massive AMA guestlist is a useful Who's-Who reference for identifying Bitcoin's disloyal opposition.

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[hdbuck]

So, the Goldman Sachs funded corporations (Circle etc) that were pushing for XT...

Don't use the past tense.  Mike_Hearn@sigint.google.mil is still pushing for XT.  Fellow Gavinista R. Ver is furiously hyping (yet another) new rump forum at bitcone.com.

Their massive AMA guestlist is a useful Who's-Who reference for identifying Bitcoin's disloyal opposition.

was the ama even a succes?

[iCEBREAKER]

So, the Goldman Sachs funded corporations (Circle etc) that were pushing for XT...

Don't use the past tense.  Mike_Hearn@sigint.google.mil is still pushing for XT.  Fellow Gavinista R. Ver is furiously hyping (yet another) new rump forum at bitcone.com.

Their massive AMA guestlist is a useful Who's-Who reference for identifying Bitcoin's disloyal opposition.

was the ama even a succes?

Dunno; I didn't attend.

Given that Bitcoin Judas resorted to attempting to Streisand Effect ('ZOMGAWD HALP!! SENSOR-SHIPS!!') his way into relevance, rather than let his forum stand on its merits, I'd surmise the answer to your question is negative.

[knight22]

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-bip-is-the-best-proposal-we-ve-seen-so-far-1446584055

Told ya so. Get prepared.

[tvbcof]

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-bip-is-the-best-proposal-we-ve-seen-so-far-1446584055

Told ya so. Get prepared.

Coinbase is the biggest corp/gov tool out there which is why they are successful and, in fact, why they are even in business.  If Coinbase promotes something for the 'health' of Bitcoin I would automatically take the opposite side as a default then study it a bit just to be sure.  Armstrong and the rest of his Silicon Valley ilk can go suck one.  We'll make Bitcoin something useful and valuable in spite of their best efforts.

[knight22]

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-bip-is-the-best-proposal-we-ve-seen-so-far-1446584055

Told ya so. Get prepared.

Coinbase is the biggest corp/gov tool out there which is why they are successful and, in fact, why they are even in business.  If Coinbase promotes something for the 'health' of Bitcoin I would automatically take the opposite side as a default then study it a bit just to be sure.  Armstrong and the rest of his Silicon Valley ilk can go suck one.  We'll make Bitcoin something useful and valuable in spite of their best efforts.

Good luck. You'll need it.

[tvbcof]

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-bip-is-the-best-proposal-we-ve-seen-so-far-1446584055

Told ya so. Get prepared.

Coinbase is the biggest corp/gov tool out there which is why they are successful and, in fact, why they are even in business.  If Coinbase promotes something for the 'health' of Bitcoin I would automatically take the opposite side as a default then study it a bit just to be sure.  Armstrong and the rest of his Silicon Valley ilk can go suck one.  We'll make Bitcoin something useful and valuable in spite of their best efforts.

Good luck. You'll need it.

I've had rather 'good luck' with Bitcoin already, thank you very much.  I'd like to see more of it which is why I am willing to provide the 'skeptical' point of view to the casual observers and other so-called 'stake-holders'.

[Carlton Banks]

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-bip-is-the-best-proposal-we-ve-seen-so-far-1446584055

Told ya so. Get prepared.

Coinbase is the biggest corp/gov tool out there which is why they are successful and, in fact, why they are even in business.  If Coinbase promotes something for the 'health' of Bitcoin I would automatically take the opposite side as a default then study it a bit just to be sure.  Armstrong and the rest of his Silicon Valley ilk can go suck one.  We'll make Bitcoin something useful and valuable in spite of their best efforts.

Good luck. You'll need it.

This one knows the power behind the XT putsch, don't you? None other than the same people who brought you "Money as Debt". For shame.

[knight22]

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-bip-is-the-best-proposal-we-ve-seen-so-far-1446584055

Told ya so. Get prepared.

Coinbase is the biggest corp/gov tool out there which is why they are successful and, in fact, why they are even in business.  If Coinbase promotes something for the 'health' of Bitcoin I would automatically take the opposite side as a default then study it a bit just to be sure.  Armstrong and the rest of his Silicon Valley ilk can go suck one.  We'll make Bitcoin something useful and valuable in spite of their best efforts.

Good luck. You'll need it.

This one knows the power behind the XT putsch, don't you? None other than the same people who brought you "Money as Debt". For shame.

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

[Patel]

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

LOL Blockstream provides no centralized services to the freemarket. All of their services are invite only. Their only service so far is Liquid.

Lightning isn't theirs, they just pay a guy to code it. Sidechains is their project, but it isn't centralized. And it's open source.

Get your facts right.

[knight22]

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

LOL Blockstream provides no centralized services to the freemarket. All of their services are invite only. Their only service so far is Liquid.

Lightning isn't theirs, they just pay a guy to code it. Sidechains is their project, but it isn't centralized. And it's open source.

Get your facts right.

The only fact that clearly stand is that they didn't provided any scaling solution in a timely manner of the bitcoin blockchain. Why would they care anyway? Their business model is to provide centralized for profit solutions, Liquid being the first one. They should have focused on the blockchain instead of Liquid. Now shame on them and their dead-end decision making process on Core implementation.

[tvbcof]

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

The 'free market' doesn't exist on or for you free-shit-army welfare queens.  XT, on the other hand, will likely be giving you 'cash back' to make purchases using a favored app and/or mega-corp wallet service and you idiots will be capitalizing on it without an ounce of concern.  Have fun with it.  We who need a robust solution will be happily using Bitcoin and/or a reliable proxy in subordinate chains.

With respect to Coinbase and XT, I project a two-pronged attack:

  1) legal requirements for corporate vendors to use a 'safe' exchange (e.g., Coinbase) and

  2) A bunch of Franklin-style money pumped in from the banking system to jumpstart the 'new and improved' XT-like crypto.

For those of us who plan to XTaint our stash and will be looking for a buyer for the taint-split coins, Coinbase being the chosen entity will be greatly appreciated.  It's not like they could reject or de-value the XTainted coins if they are pretending to be on-board with XT after all.

[Patel]

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

The 'free market' doesn't exist on or for you free-shit-army welfare queens.  XT, on the other hand, will likely be giving you 'cash back' to make purchases using a favored app and/or mega-corp wallet service and you idiots will be capitalizing on it without an ounce of concern.  Have fun with it.  We who need a robust solution will be happily using Bitcoin and/or a reliable proxy in subordinate chains.

With respect to Coinbase and XT, I project a two-pronged attack:

  1) legal requirements for corporate vendors to use a 'safe' exchange (e.g., Coinbase) and

  2) A bunch of Franklin-style money pumped in from the banking system to jumpstart the 'new and improved' XT-like crypto.

For those of us who plan to XTaint our stash and will be looking for a buyer for the taint-split coins, Coinbase being the chosen entity will be greatly appreciated.  It's not like they could reject or de-value the XTainted coins if they are pretending to be on-board with XT after all.

LOL, remember Mike Hearn's proof of passport idea? That all miners need to have a valid passport.

Coinbase can shoot their business in the foot if they try to fork and it goes bad.

I'll pay someone if they gather a list of all the stupidass ideas Mike has proposed. $20.

[VeritasSapere]

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/coinbase-ceo-brian-armstrong-bip-is-the-best-proposal-we-ve-seen-so-far-1446584055

Told ya so. Get prepared.

Good news.

[Carlton Banks]

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

LOL Blockstream provides no centralized services to the freemarket. All of their services are invite only. Their only service so far is Liquid.

Lightning isn't theirs, they just pay a guy to code it. Sidechains is their project, but it isn't centralized. And it's open source.

Get your facts right.

The only fact that clearly stand is that they didn't provided any scaling solution in a timely manner of the bitcoin blockchain.

Also nonsense. Version 0.12 will soon be upon us, laying the last of the foundations required to get stuff like Lightning working. CLTV (a piece of the Lightning hubs puzzle)  will likely get activated on the network long before the failed XT hard fork. Reality's a bitch.

[knight22]

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

The 'free market' doesn't exist on or for you free-shit-army welfare queens.  XT, on the other hand, will likely be giving you 'cash back' to make purchases using a favored app and/or mega-corp wallet service and you idiots will be capitalizing on it without an ounce of concern.  Have fun with it.  We who need a robust solution will be happily using Bitcoin and/or a reliable proxy in subordinate chains.

With respect to Coinbase and XT, I project a two-pronged attack:

  1) legal requirements for corporate vendors to use a 'safe' exchange (e.g., Coinbase) and

  2) A bunch of Franklin-style money pumped in from the banking system to jumpstart the 'new and improved' XT-like crypto.

For those of us who plan to XTaint our stash and will be looking for a buyer for the taint-split coins, Coinbase being the chosen entity will be greatly appreciated.  It's not like they could reject or de-value the XTainted coins if they are pretending to be on-board with XT after all.

The amount of FUD just for pushing back the temporary anti-spam limit is astonishing. It really is.

[knight22]

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

LOL Blockstream provides no centralized services to the freemarket. All of their services are invite only. Their only service so far is Liquid.

Lightning isn't theirs, they just pay a guy to code it. Sidechains is their project, but it isn't centralized. And it's open source.

Get your facts right.

The only fact that clearly stand is that they didn't provided any scaling solution in a timely manner of the bitcoin blockchain.

Also nonsense. Version 0.12 will soon be upon us, laying the last of the foundations required to get stuff like Lightning working. It will likely get activated on the network long before the failed XT hard fork. Reality's a bitch.

You mean all of this will become effective before December?

[tvbcof]

Yeah, the free market that doesn't want to be forced to use centralized services provided by the for profit Blockstream company. There is no shame to provide the permissionless blockchain to the world. The real shame is on those who want to cripple it for themselves.

The 'free market' doesn't exist on or for you free-shit-army welfare queens.  XT, on the other hand, will likely be giving you 'cash back' to make purchases using a favored app and/or mega-corp wallet service and you idiots will be capitalizing on it without an ounce of concern.  Have fun with it.  We who need a robust solution will be happily using Bitcoin and/or a reliable proxy in subordinate chains.

With respect to Coinbase and XT, I project a two-pronged attack:

  1) legal requirements for corporate vendors to use a 'safe' exchange (e.g., Coinbase) and

  2) A bunch of Franklin-style money pumped in from the banking system to jumpstart the 'new and improved' XT-like crypto.

For those of us who plan to XTaint our stash and will be looking for a buyer for the taint-split coins, Coinbase being the chosen entity will be greatly appreciated.  It's not like they could reject or de-value the XTainted coins if they are pretending to be on-board with XT after all.

LOL, remember Mike Hearn's proof of passport idea? That all miners need to have a valid passport.

Coinbase can shoot their business in the foot if they try to fork and it goes bad.

If I were on their board I'd be lobbying strongly to sell the company before getting roped into such a risky operation.  Of course nobody on the outside would have visibility into such a deal.

As for Mike's passport idea, I almost forgot about that one.  It's actually quite a challenge to keep up with all of his bad ideas.  Of course 'good' and 'bad' are in the eye of the beholder.  His activities have been pretty much universally good from the perspective of the established fiat banking system.

[muyuu]

Also nonsense. Version 0.12 will soon be upon us, laying the last of the foundations required to get stuff like Lightning working. CLTV (a piece of the Lightning hubs puzzle)  will likely get activated on the network long before the failed XT hard fork. Reality's a bitch.

What to do when you are a gigablock fudster other than sobbing silently? 

[muyuu]

You mean all of this will become effective before December?

Nothing much will happen in December. Bitcoin is tiny in consumer markets, most transactions are stupid raffles, data records of different kinds based on supercheap txs, and then speculators settling transfers but that is not related to xmas season or anything. Also, in China and most of Asia xmas is minor.

There is no end of the world next month like there wasn't last month, or any other month since the XT fud hardfork attempt took place. XTard desperation is correlated to BTC price