CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 12:27:34 AM

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 12:33:10 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2016, 12:58:18 AM by garmin

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Save Cryptsy? Fuck no! Let it die. Put the corporate officers and complicit employees in prison.

Maybe the next exchange will learn a lesson before they try to pull some Cryptsy/Mt Gox shit, but I doubt it...

crypto is full of fuckin thieves and no longer worth my effort. Fuck Crypto! Fuck Cryptsy! Fuck Vern! Fuck Horus, Fuck the whole thing!

Ima sell the rest of my crypto coins off and buy some more Gold & Silver.
Human beings have coveted silver and gold consistently for more than 6000 years....

Use the blockchain for record keeping etc, but as far as having a monetary value, NO not for me.

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 12:58:54 AM

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Quote from: gamfreak11 on January 26, 2016, 12:27:34 AM

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January 26, 2016, 01:05:16 AM

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Quote from: garmin on January 26, 2016, 12:33:10 AM

Use the blockchain for record keeping etc, but as far as having a monetary value, NO not for me.

gold and silver? you may be interested in that bitstone doxxing dingleberry, ask about alex...lol

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 01:15:19 AM
Last edit: January 26, 2016, 01:28:59 AM by garmin

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Quote from: sirazimuth on January 26, 2016, 01:05:16 AM

Quote from: garmin on January 26, 2016, 12:33:10 AM

Use the blockchain for record keeping etc, but as far as having a monetary value, NO not for me.

gold and silver? you may be interested in that bitstone doxxing dingleberry, ask about alex...lol

I have a reputable gold and silver dealer/broker, I give them Fiat, they give me precious metals, no fuss no muss, And fuck diamonds too, if Russia ever opens there stockpiles of diamonds up they will be near worthless too, diamonds are No Longer Controlled By De Beers, so they could go to shit at any given time. Try to sell a diamond good luck, Unless they are premium size cut clarity ya aint gonna get shit for em, Unless ya find a sucker.
I have consistently made money on Gold and silver. And if we ever have a major power grid problem, via CME or terrorist action crypto all dies that day, no power! no crypto! Poof

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 01:16:24 AM

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Quote from: garmin on January 26, 2016, 12:33:10 AM

Use the blockchain for record keeping etc, but as far as having a monetary value, NO not for me.

Sorry to hear you're so down on crypto. What coins are you specifically liquidating?

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 01:25:50 AM

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Quote from: thunderjet on January 25, 2016, 08:46:15 PM

Quote from: frank2 on January 25, 2016, 07:54:14 PM

there is value in this house itself : CRYPTSY

if it was penny stock exchange - value of such house would be in billions

if it would go under bankruptcy - lawyers would sell to highest bidders

you say : small coins have no value : how much bigger intrinsic value having diamonds, posts stamps and so on

by allowing lawyers to sell Cryptsy to someone for pennies ( possibly to competitor who would close Cryptsy )

by this action ( or inaction ) - allowing to sell Cryptsy for ZERO - we would confirm ( as you say) that all altcoins have ZERO value

Quote from: Melech on January 25, 2016, 07:40:16 PM

Quote from: frank2 on January 25, 2016, 07:12:13 PM

actually, best outcome for all coin holders would be survival of cryptsy

an option to convert altcoin deposits in stakes in the company or similar

this happens quite often in bankrupcies

but it must be transparent an under our control

IMHO this is possible

that would:

1.prevent deaths of smaller coins

2.give some remote chances for recovery of funds

ordinary bankruptcy - lawyers will take all

What part of Craptsy is bankrupt do people not understand?

There is no money... coins of value were stolen 19 months ago... Craptsy has maybe $100k worth of crapcoins to dole out, so be patient...

Dead coins are worthless because they are scams which were abandoned after the pump-n-dump... don't invest in them, so some research before throwing your money away...

you are right when say that bankrutcy is a bad option,but it is inevitable if some big investor does not buy it.

If Cryptsy wants to stay in business,they needs a lot of income,big volume,quick and effective support response,deposit/withdrawal works smooth,fast trade engine - everything Cryptsy lacked before hack

So every investor have to put a lot of money at start and give members reasonable plan how to pay debt - that is not likely at all

you are also right when you say that Cryptsy fall will mean certain death for a lot of small coins - but uncontrolablle putting coins on exchange is one of reasons for Cryptsy security was on such low level - they had only one man Mullick to maintain few hundred wallets which was completely insane.They hired ordinary people to give endless excuses for a technical problems they had,instead to hire qualified tech support to maintain such beast.

Also there is a quite big security risk that Cryptsy can be bought by some notoriuos scammers,which could exploit sensitive private info of their members given through AML or make Mintpal 2

Why do you think that anyone would be stupid enough to deposit coins on cryptsy to make this plan work.

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January 26, 2016, 01:51:42 AM

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Gox having the next meeting Feb 17th.

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 01:55:35 AM

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This might be Cryptsy's wallet address: https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1EwJQp83YAYT4BncbhTbcMJj1AnMPHqBXe

It was funded from here: https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/269fa6cedc58ebf01be3cc11fa4172e9d8783686cf2338131a9641a0db7f4c4c

PLEASE NOTE: Any Cryptsy wallets that I find CAN NOT be used for refunds since my efforts for relaying such info is obvious meaningless stemming from a dude who's considered mentally unstable.

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 02:06:43 AM

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 26, 2016, 01:55:35 AM

I think it is not Cryptsy wallet itself,but it seems it is a wallet of someone who worked there.All inputs,except latest one has point of origin Cryptsy hot wallet.It is also unusual that all transactions are inputs,not at one output - so it can be somebody savings for rainy days. 95BTC ~ $38000 and that is a lot of rainy days

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 02:11:02 AM

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 26, 2016, 01:55:35 AM

ignore that guy thats what i did he probably works for cryptsy and not liking how you blowing the whole shit wide open. the thief can not run away with the money and leave happily after thanks to you thunderjet etc . so keep it up bro

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 02:12:02 AM

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Quote from: thunderjet on January 26, 2016, 02:06:43 AM

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 26, 2016, 01:55:35 AM

you to thunderjet keep it up

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January 26, 2016, 02:30:18 AM

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Has anyone exchanged email with paul recently? If so, please post the headers.

Unfortunately, we'll likely be limited in the info we can glean from these since Cryptsy seems to be using google mail for business.

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 02:43:07 AM

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Quote from: GoldSeal on January 26, 2016, 02:30:18 AM

Has anyone exchanged email with paul recently? If so, please post the headers.

Unfortunately, we'll likely be limited in the info we can glean from these since Cryptsy seems to be using google mail for business.

"And the operator says: "Forty cents more, for the next three minutes."

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I'll only keep him a while
Please Mrs. Vernon, just want to tell him..."

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 02:44:10 AM

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Don't know if anyone posted this. However, if you are a US citizen or a legal resident that has coins trapped in Cryptsy, this is the contact if you wish to join the Silver Law class action.

Email received from Silver Law. Contact is rfeinberg@silverlaw.com

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As you are aware, Silver Law Group (www.silverlaw.com), along with the law firm of Wites & Kapetan, P.A., has filed a nationwide class action lawsuit in federal court against Florida-based cryptocurrency exchange operator Cryptsy and its principal, Paul (“Big Vern”) Vernon. According to the lawsuit, numerous Cryptsy account holders have been denied access to their accounts over the past several months and have been deprived of any ability to properly protect their assets amidst widespread reports of problems at the heart of Cryptsy’s business. While reports have been swirling in multiple media outlets that Cryptsy’s future is greatly troubled and that the company might be under heavy regulatory scrutiny, many Cryptsy account holders allege they have been unable to withdraw any and all forms of currency from their accounts. The lawsuit asserts that despite repeated inquiries to Cryptsy, users are being left without any meaningful response or information from Cryptsy and have had their withdrawal demands either denied or tabbed as “pending” for days, weeks, or even months. Although the exact amount remains undetermined, the lawsuit estimates that the value of the digital funds being held captive at Cryptsy exceeds Five Million Dollars ($5,000,000.00).

The class action lawsuit is pending in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida under Case No. 9:16-cv-80060. As stated in the lawsuit, the class of victims pursuing relief includes “All Cryptsy account owners who deposited Bitcoins, alternative cryptocurrencies, or any other form of monies or currency at Cryptsy and have been denied access to their accounts and funds between November 1, 2015 and the present date.” The lawsuit asserts claims for negligence, unjust enrichment, conversion of funds and property, and violations of Florida’s Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act.

Attached for your review is a Contract for Representation. At this time, because the lawsuit has been filed as a nationwide class action, we are only accepting clients who are either U.S. citizens or legal residents.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to ask by e-mail. Communicating with Silver Law Group through its website, by e-mail, or otherwise does not create an attorney-client relationship for any legal matter in which we do not already represent you.

Best regards,

Becky Feinberg
Legal Assistant to Scott L. Silver

11780 W. Sample Road
Coral Springs, FL 33065
Telephone: (954) 755-4799
Facsimile: (954) 755-4684

1-800-975-4345
Website: www.silverlaw.com

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 03:01:03 AM

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After a long search I located hacker BTC wallet,where he put BTCs after selling stolen LTC, BTCD and XC and most likely from some other stolen coins from Cryptsy too

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337

This is list of hacker BTC wallet addresses and amounts on them:

1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf   1044.4783332
1EycjnLMwsu3TGkmRXk2KcQFKfMDms3BPh   543.96196074
1LDJRDYwqaMeP4fohtKCk9rC4yNp84ZwBj     539.76554775
12wjDTKN7VJ7EzGpXhzUugRn9EksAE7V54    529.15362786
12jbr2aBAvepnhLVzH7FmEJSj5vhV12AVc     525.12341805
16GND7hK2G6ng1wkZeotEboAAXCJQ3oFMS   198.38328147
19tZeUPgr79fPcnF7kZ5Auibng5MJu8ZXV     92.68801239
1CH76kqRrgi1bNKBR2No58D2Ww4ZMLNnAz   24.3806
1KCUsmS1yno86E1WyaezJryBLeFPTBvgSS    20.91127867
12pph89q6WqBnfSMyhTbB9jY3Qy42ckkSY    0.
152kBAm48m7qpJ435LnvskYNyQk5zdE7oR     0.
1KLAEfwvJC8awiuigk5CrQ8dVB2XsXjABm     0.
13hvDJDXC95hgvBqbf3zVpQiYct8FTv2GZ     0.
1MWcNSArYxzR2JxAqs7fSi9hnKMgf1KfNM     0.
121nt1QeEZTbSRREaEGvKcqCmTQkhCcDAX   0.
1CCN21uVdp95LHJtXh53B6BC7M3s4y63Mo    0.
1FDDuyhunAtBb287WNmJEEwr6s24yvEQTv   0.
15wzuUsgz5Wia8i5mrEYp3p8ciHPbi1v4h     0.
1JuyFXAYuS4RHdaxrZDjE1f6XtFPRQdhYP     0.

I was tracking Bittrex BTC wallet outputs on dates when he moved stolen BTCD and XC on Bittrex.Hacker moved and sold BTCD and XC on Bittrex in period between 14.Oct.2014 - 07.Nov.2014.I did it ,because Bittrex is a small exchange in comparison for BTC exchanges,there are no much big withdrawals,and every such one can be easily identified and tracked.

Inside hacker wallet there is address 1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf

on that address hacker put BTC after selling BTCD and XC on Bittrex and LTC on BTC-e(11.July.2015)

If you carefully look on inputs at that address for period 14.Oct- 04.Nov.2014 - they are all from Bittrex.After this period new inputs started again on 11.July.2015 - day when LTC started to moving to different exchanges.As I wrote in mine previous posts, 55000 LTC moved 11.July on BTCe exchange to address: LY13Z54QKwyAnuwKfYwKFhW98qa6ihsfYy and then to BTCe LTC hot wallet - LXA3i9eEAVDbgDqkThCa4D6BUJ3SEULkEr

Hacker sold 55000 LTC on BTC-e 11-12.July.2015,but could not move about 935 BTC all at once,due to BTCe daily withdraw limit of 100 BTC,so you will see a lot of inputs of 99.999 BTC on 1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf from 11-25.July

All inputs on this address for period 11-25.July has a total sum of about 930 BTC.
Average value of LTC for 11-12July on BTCe,when hacker sold them was 0.017 BTC for 1 LTC:
55000 x 0.017 = 935 BTC

If you trace backward(with help of Wallet explorer trace largest sum(branching BTCe output) in every txs) all BTC inputs on address 1C6JEkN16FqyLH37vvmSicE59kqEadUmtf for 11-25.July have point of origin in BTCe exchange wallet.

Also hacker wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337 for a period 18.Aug.2014(when it formed) till now you will see that all inputs in it has a total sum of ~ 4685 BTC

Sum of stolen LTC,BTCD and XC is:

2475000 LTC x 0.015 = 3712 BTC

107400 BTCD x 0.007 = 752 BTC

289000 XC x 0.0007 = 202 BTC
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Total: 4666 BTC , very very close to the sum of all inputs for that wallet

I have also tested dozen other transactions (traced them backward) in this wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337 and found that BTC inputs which came from LTC selling(11-25.July.2015 came from Huobi, BTC38 and BTC-e,like I found and wrote in previous posts.

First 8 inputs in this wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/1356a64174770337?page=3 ,has point of origin BTC38.It was before LTC,BTCD and XC started to move,so it is most likely from some other robbed coins,which Cryptsy did not report or even did not aware.Also hacker sold on BTC38 and BTER till 14.Oct.2014 coins in total value of about 200 BTC.It was before BTCD,XC and LTC started to move - so it is some other stolen coins never reported.

This is a list of BTCD and XC transactions and dates when they came to Bittrex:

XC11

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?198609.htm - moved 24.10.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?411249.htm - moved 07.11.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?380728.htm - moved 24.10.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?395694.htm - moved 31.10.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?373715.htm - moved 20.10.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?373818.htm - moved 20.10.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?393371.htm - moved 30.10.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?399652.htm - moved 02.11.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?380702.htm - moved 23.10.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?398810.htm - moved 01.11.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?399528.htm - moved 02.11.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?399682.htm - moved 02.11.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?399688.htm - moved 02.11.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?399694.htm - moved 02.11.2014 - Bittrex

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/tx.dws?411262.htm - moved 07.11.2014 - Bittrex

BTCD

http://explorebtcd.info/tx/8d20bdcc209a724f9769707578d69bd39bfa108636ae3df7664f8a56629e67af - moved 24.10.2014 - Bittrex

http://explorebtcd.info/tx/a035693c30b9d6ad2fe9b8e1df8fb41e672b292546065863e73095838965344e - moved 14.10.2014 - Bittrex

http://explorebtcd.info/tx/3cdd16fe894e7039b4edeefae27d40ce355d44ac0a98ed7e3715ca117d2befde - moved 30.10.2014 - Bittrex

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 03:10:04 AM

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After a long search I located hacker BTC wallet...

<fakeDELETED>

thunderjet beat me again! Cry

I should've eaten my Wheaties this morning. Roll Eyes

In re. TJ's research: Follow the first input backwards a couple steps: https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/9792a0030378d9197da6610d72123ffd1c7174c2c0c3fe5733fc6b1363b51782

btf38.com may be able to shed some light on the subject: https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/c45acb02438079bcb9b4e35d1630c2eb981b1e538fa9757b70994a1f8c90615c

Well, at least I have the following:

Main Event:
2014-07-29 13:17:36 Block 313009 https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

Cryptsy's New Wallet:
2014-07-29 19:23:03 Block 313048 Initially funded with 0.63 BTC https://blockchain.info/tx/c453786bc1b5ad3ae16caffa36eab10f4147b8ad482ea0f63e6b184d28581106

Wow! That equates to 6 hours, 5 minutes and 27 seconds between the event and creation of Cryptsy's new wallet containing 134,498 addresses with 429,931 transactions (3.19656054365 txs per addy - including this stat makes me look smart like Leroy "HAHAHA" Fodor). Here's a harder problem: 817,725/259,276 = 3.15387849242 txs per addy for Cryptsy-old. Putting big numbers above small numbers are fun: 817,725/429,931 = 1.90199124976 or 190.199124976% more txs for Cryptsy's first year and a half of existence than its second half. Wow!

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Cryptsy.com-old?page=1204

2014-07-29 08:54:47 = Cryptsy's HQ's Florida time (EDT) when the last and largest reduction of funds exiting Cryptsy transpired during the infamous event.

Received Time = Cryptsy's Florida Time (EDT)

2014-07-29 09:19:45: 5.8995 BTC (Kraken.com --> Cryptsy.com-old)
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/7d38733120a4a7e2eb6b765a896e122dc66a4bc253db7c83294b67acb537eb75
2014-07-29 09:39:39: 3.9995 BTC (MintPal.com)
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/3795485ccf1d655aa932acc14b21898b0afce08d1e065e5209549c30f9b8b7fa
2014-07-29 09:39:39: 1.8998 BTC (Change)
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/3795485ccf1d655aa932acc14b21898b0afce08d1e065e5209549c30f9b8b7fa

2014-07-29 15:39:40: 0.44968272 BTC (Change)
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/bf76399c004411837a78118653e7232b5a6478e4b7e6d64ce7fc9df11a5ebc4f
2014-07-29 15:40:52: 0.05204 BTC (Change)
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/521797fba66431c9170844435543869e0bc944c90adac6f2489662e53e5c4efc
2014-07-29 15:23:03: 0.63 BTC (Cryptsy.com-[new])
https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/c453786bc1b5ad3ae16caffa36eab10f4147b8ad482ea0f63e6b184d28581106

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1EzK7T326C3eU3pi4MWFDzUptg143vV4K5?page=35

https://blockchain.info/tree/61222892

https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/14D9afHH3RFS4d5msXbt5E2e26t3hUy5tu

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 03:23:39 AM

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today most official news channel of all supported indirectly Cryptsy

confirmed existence of ''The world's 600 virtual currencies''

because if we would not support Cryptsy - this info could be soon outdated as number of virtual currencies might fall below 200 or below 100

REUTERS

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-bitcoin-regulations-idUSKCN0V32A3

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Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 03:47:44 AM

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 26, 2016, 01:55:35 AM

First output tumbler.

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⇾ Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action

January 26, 2016, 04:02:31 AM

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http://www.btc38.com/about_us.html

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Bit era under the Shenzhen-dimensional Network Limited, is a collection of information and trading platform for the integration of digital currency. From its inception in May 2013, a professional management team, strict financial management system, attentive service in the industry won a good reputation. Founding team worked in Tencent, the Bank of China office, has many years of Internet experience. The company also owns the gift shop era manners, public financial management platform to raise age laps.

So much for getting any viable info from btc38 given they're probably in the same bed with Paul Vernon and Marshall Long enjoying evening pillow fights.

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