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February 03, 2016, 12:42:13 PM
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Cryptsy, open more wallets pls! We wait..
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February 03, 2016, 02:44:08 PM
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Thanks to thunderjet's research providing https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00eba124e5c01e24

Here's 2700 BTC that Paul Vernon has stashed away: https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/39oAHDttKScMfdeff4Tj3EYDkBEUPaZ7bm

Here's ~888 BTC more: https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/3DzPjM2MYkHtWNHYbUX54z4Bf6bP9dnyVW

~117 BTC: https://www.walletexplorer.com/address/3Jm9BmAdDPxrC31Kzofo3UmUeeCQnb7pLb

You know, the more I think about it, the more I believe that Paul Vernon is part of some terrorist organization, hence not relating to SARs about the ~$13M USD breach.
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February 03, 2016, 03:47:21 PM
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Just a simple question:

When the money is gone (be it stolen or anything else), isn't Cryptsy's company Project Investors Inc. required to a) report the theft/accident/whatever to FINCEN and b) file for bankruptsy protection, both as soon as they get aware of the mess? If they don't do so, it's fraud, and it's high time that the authorities look into it and get hold of the persons in charge.

So, what are the authorities doing at the moment?
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February 03, 2016, 04:05:13 PM
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Just a simple question:

When the money is gone (be it stolen or anything else), isn't Cryptsy's company Project Investors Inc. required to a) report the theft/accident/whatever to FINCEN and b) file for bankruptsy protection, both as soon as they get aware of the mess? If they don't do so, it's fraud, and it's high time that the authorities look into it and get hold of the persons in charge.

So, what are the authorities doing at the moment?


http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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We do, however, fully comply with our Federal MSB requirements.  This includes filing SAR (Suspicous Activity Reports) and CTR (Currency Transaction Reports).  We also have one of the most extensive KYC programs in the industry, scrub accounts against the OFAC list, and perform Transaction Monitoring.   At a federal level, we are compliant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report

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In the United States, FinCEN requires that an SAR be filed by a financial institution when the financial institution suspects insider abuse by an employee; violations of law aggregating over $5,000 where a subject can be identified;[clarification needed] violations of law aggregating over $25,000 regardless of a potential subject; transactions aggregating $5,000 or more that involve potential money laundering or violations of the Bank Secrecy Act; computer intrusion; or when a financial institution knows that a customer is operating as an unlicensed money services business.

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Each SAR must be filed within 30 days of the date of the initial determination for the necessity of filing the report. An extension of 30 days can be obtained if the identity of the person conducting the suspicious activity is not known. At no time, however, should the filing of an SAR be delayed longer than 60 days. The Bank Secrecy Act specifies that each firm must maintain records of its SARs for a period of five years from the date of filing.

http://blog.cryptsy.com/

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Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.

Paul Vernon: Deposit on Cryptsy, Cryptsy is fun, come right now, don't walk - run!

Paul Vernon: Safe? Darn tootin'! We filing SAR (Suspicous Activity Reports) reports.

Paul Vernon: A year and half ago, over thirteen million dollars worth of cryptocurrencies was stolen from Cryptsy.

Paul Vernon: Why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred? To be Marshall Long et al. honest, we were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.

Paul Vernon: We're reaching out to those of the community we haven't hammer-banned to help us hunt down the person(s) responsible for the event leaning to reduction of my... I mean ours... I mean your funds, offering up a reward of 1000 BTC coming out of mine... I mean ours... I mean our clients' pockets, their moneys on account.

http://www.anti-moneylaundering.com/pdf/Example_Fines_and_Penalties.pdf

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Money transmitter with 7,500 agents. San Fernando, California. Failure to establish and implement an anti-money laundering program. Structuring. Failure to control and supervise agents. Failure to report Suspicious Transactions (SARs). Fine $12,000,000.

$13,000,000 - $12,000,000 =   ?  


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February 03, 2016, 07:38:44 PM
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Wonder why the new site is called biteb9 instead of biteb8?

Scaling and transaction rate: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306
Do not allow demand to exceed capacity. Do not allow mempools to forget transactions. Relay all transactions. Eventually confirm all transactions.
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February 03, 2016, 07:55:41 PM
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Wonder why the new site is called biteb9 instead of biteb8?

https://www.bitebi9.com/

Bitebi9 = Bitebig

https://www.bitebi9.com/pages/about

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What is Bitebi9:

Bitebi9 is a startup focusing on the exchange of Crypto-Currency commonly known as “BitCoin” and it's derivatives. We currently trading over 50 different crypto-currencies directly with the Chinese RMB.

Our Mission:

Provide a safe, simple, and efficient environment for users to trade crypto-currencies with each other.

Withdraw?:

See "Mission" - namely, continue to trade with each other.
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February 03, 2016, 08:23:48 PM
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Is AML introduction in October was just coincidence or part of careful plan to smokescreen users from real problems and give more time to remove incoming funds?

When problem started in first days of October we had:

1.Withdrawals problem started
2.AML introduction
3.Bitjohn resignation
4.Divorce lawsuit beginning
5.Bitebi 9 launch


Coincidences? No,way - one old CIA spy told once - when 1 thing suddenly happens against your interests,it could be just coincidence,when 2 it is highly unlikely it is a coincidence,when 3 it is enemy action for sure.

I dont believe that starting of divorce lawsuit on 1st.October was coincidence too.

Is a divorce lawsuit had a purpose just to shield valuable personal and business properties from users exchange lawsuit by giving all valuable assets to wife and resting all toxic assets to BV? This is something we already seen when big banks left all toxic assets in old bank and removed all good ones to new bank,evading responsibility from angry investors they deliberately fucked.
...


A few months before the supposed hack you also have the opening of MN Contracts. MN was first then MN2 10,000 shares were put up. Only 5,000 were sold at .180. They supposedly used Cloud Hashing. So how did they pay Cloud hashing for 100 Terahash if they only collected 5,000 shares? Bait n Switched into the market too since it opened before 10K. This was the red flag that made me pull my bitcoin from Cryptsy and among other things like Raffling of 200 MN2 shares for 28 bitcoin total of Cryptsy points. This can only add to the overall suspicion that puts the coin in coincidence. These shares could be fake in my opinion and a way to hold people in the markets while they prepare an exit strategy. Initially Cryptsy said they were not allowed to disclose the hash provider. Coincidence??
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February 03, 2016, 10:07:00 PM
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https://forms.cftc.gov/_layouts/PublicForms/TipsAndComplaints.aspxalso contact florida police to report this crime if you hav'nt donr this already
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February 03, 2016, 10:27:45 PM
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I wonder if anybody filled out the form accusing Paul Vernon of funding terrorist.  Wink Wink Wink
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February 03, 2016, 10:39:47 PM
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I wonder if anybody filled out the form accusing Paul Vernon of funding terrorist.  Wink Wink Wink

Here's a good question: If Paul Vernon's funding terrorist, why is Leroy Fodor funding Cryptsy via his StakeMiners Ponzi? https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/163c677c48a3548e
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February 03, 2016, 11:05:40 PM
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I wonder if anybody filled out the form accusing Paul Vernon of funding terrorist.  Wink Wink Wink
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE ? WHY ARE YOU NOT REPORTING THIS CRIME? REPORT TO EVERY RELEVANT BODY IN THE USA LOCAL POLICE IN FLORIDA EVERYBODY YOU CAN .GO.
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February 04, 2016, 01:32:10 AM
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...

Is AML introduction in October was just coincidence or part of careful plan to smokescreen users from real problems and give more time to remove incoming funds?

When problem started in first days of October we had:

1.Withdrawals problem started
2.AML introduction
3.Bitjohn resignation
4.Divorce lawsuit beginning
5.Bitebi 9 launch


Coincidences? No,way - one old CIA spy told once - when 1 thing suddenly happens against your interests,it could be just coincidence,when 2 it is highly unlikely it is a coincidence,when 3 it is enemy action for sure.

I dont believe that starting of divorce lawsuit on 1st.October was coincidence too.

Is a divorce lawsuit had a purpose just to shield valuable personal and business properties from users exchange lawsuit by giving all valuable assets to wife and resting all toxic assets to BV? This is something we already seen when big banks left all toxic assets in old bank and removed all good ones to new bank,evading responsibility from angry investors they deliberately fucked.
...


A few months before the supposed hack you also have the opening of MN Contracts. MN was first then MN2 10,000 shares were put up. Only 5,000 were sold at .180. They supposedly used Cloud Hashing. So how did they pay Cloud hashing for 100 Terahash if they only collected 5,000 shares? Bait n Switched into the market too since it opened before 10K. This was the red flag that made me pull my bitcoin from Cryptsy and among other things like Raffling of 200 MN2 shares for 28 bitcoin total of Cryptsy points. This can only add to the overall suspicion that puts the coin in coincidence. These shares could be fake in my opinion and a way to hold people in the markets while they prepare an exit strategy. Initially Cryptsy said they were not allowed to disclose the hash provider. Coincidence??


That about MN2 shares is just tip of the iceberg.

They paid 175 BTC to Cloud Hashing for 10000 MN2 share,with ours money.

They simply took 175 BTC from "cold" wallet(  https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2 )and sent to Cloud hashing on 10.Apr.2014 :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/3151782bc1b3ab193b35158359fec3ed2ec36bcd3b17af4df712316d7700ca0c



Also,from same "cold" wallet they took 1222 BTC on 22.Apr.2014 (~ $550.000 worth at that date)


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8d15ce38add27d4e9377b179acf927989e219eee14dcc39132d9c424a3974515

Where did that so much money go?


From 5-19.June.2014. through 3 transactions 1575 BTC( ~ $600 for 1 BTC then =   $945.000 ) fly away from Cryptsy cold wallet -  https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

In total 550,000 + 945,000 =  $1.495.000 went from Cryptsy cold wallet before 29.July hack.


After exchange hacked, with so much financial problems and ravaged by huge debt, BV has enough money to buy new house on 25.March.2015 worth $1.374.881 :

http://www.co.palm-beach.fl.us/papa/Asps/PropertyDetail/PropertyDetail.aspx?parcel=00424629130003540&

1.374.881 for new house and taken 1.495.000 from exchange - another coincidence ? or we gave loan for we even did not know to exist ?










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February 04, 2016, 02:02:37 AM
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Is AML introduction in October was just coincidence or part of careful plan to smokescreen users from real problems and give more time to remove incoming funds?

When problem started in first days of October we had:

1.Withdrawals problem started
2.AML introduction
3.Bitjohn resignation
4.Divorce lawsuit beginning
5.Bitebi 9 launch


Coincidences? No,way - one old CIA spy told once - when 1 thing suddenly happens against your interests,it could be just coincidence,when 2 it is highly unlikely it is a coincidence,when 3 it is enemy action for sure.

I dont believe that starting of divorce lawsuit on 1st.October was coincidence too.

Is a divorce lawsuit had a purpose just to shield valuable personal and business properties from users exchange lawsuit by giving all valuable assets to wife and resting all toxic assets to BV? This is something we already seen when big banks left all toxic assets in old bank and removed all good ones to new bank,evading responsibility from angry investors they deliberately fucked.
...


A few months before the supposed hack you also have the opening of MN Contracts. MN was first then MN2 10,000 shares were put up. Only 5,000 were sold at .180. They supposedly used Cloud Hashing. So how did they pay Cloud hashing for 100 Terahash if they only collected 5,000 shares? Bait n Switched into the market too since it opened before 10K. This was the red flag that made me pull my bitcoin from Cryptsy and among other things like Raffling of 200 MN2 shares for 28 bitcoin total of Cryptsy points. This can only add to the overall suspicion that puts the coin in coincidence. These shares could be fake in my opinion and a way to hold people in the markets while they prepare an exit strategy. Initially Cryptsy said they were not allowed to disclose the hash provider. Coincidence??


That about MN2 shares is just tip of the iceberg.

They paid 175 BTC to Cloud Hashing for 10000 MN2 share,with ours money.

They simply took 175 BTC from "cold" wallet(  https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2 )and sent to Cloud hashing on 10.Apr.2014 :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/3151782bc1b3ab193b35158359fec3ed2ec36bcd3b17af4df712316d7700ca0c



Also,from same "cold" wallet they took 1222 BTC on 22.Apr.2014 (~ $550.000 worth at that date)


https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8d15ce38add27d4e9377b179acf927989e219eee14dcc39132d9c424a3974515

Where did that so much money go?


From 5-19.June.2014. through 3 transactions 1575 BTC( ~ $600 for 1 BTC then =   $945.000 ) fly away from Cryptsy cold wallet -  https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2

In total 550,000 + 945,000 =  $1.495.000 went from Cryptsy cold wallet before 29.July hack.


After exchange hacked, with so much financial problems and ravaged by huge debt, BV has enough money to buy new house on 25.March.2015 worth $1.374.881 :

http://www.co.palm-beach.fl.us/papa/Asps/PropertyDetail/PropertyDetail.aspx?parcel=00424629130003540&

1.374.881 for new house and taken 1.495.000 from exchange - another coincidence ? or we gave loan for we even did not know to exist ?


Horus should be done with his investigation any sec down to report back to this thread with his findings as promised. Rest assured that the Freemason, Horus, filed a report with SARs about the millions missing from Cryptsy's coffer since his boss, Paul Vernon, didn't have a clue as to whom or what agency the event should be reported too.

Let's just say that Horus best have filed something for I have a feeling  Wink Wink Wink that his name is included as part of the culprits over at Cryptsy, and that it's to his best interest to start singing like a spring robin otherwise he best start exercising his ass so to accommodate all future visitors.
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February 04, 2016, 02:09:32 AM
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Bye, bye, crypto, no more fiat from me.  Sad
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February 04, 2016, 02:10:01 AM
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I wonder if anybody filled out the form accusing Paul Vernon of funding terrorist.  Wink Wink Wink

Here's a good question: If Paul Vernon's funding terrorist, why is Leroy Fodor funding Cryptsy via his StakeMiners Ponzi? https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/163c677c48a3548e

It's not a Ponzi, soon they'll launch FodorCoin, and it will always be worth $19, and be accepted at all kinds of great online retailers like Adam & Steve and Jooba's Fake Poo Emporium and Shrimp Delivery. You just gotta believe a little longer bro... Me love you MarshallLong time...

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February 04, 2016, 02:13:19 AM
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@ThePhwner
looks like pissed like me.

Bye, Bye scammers.
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February 04, 2016, 03:29:16 AM
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So no more communication from Paul.

Moving to Puerto Rico...
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February 04, 2016, 03:35:12 AM
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https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/493770304347717632

Markets Added:  ALN/BTC & DRKC/BTC
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https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/493928469869252609

We will be upgrading RDD client tonight, which will require a resync.  The hot wallet will be offline for a little bit while we upgrade.
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6:18 p.m. - 28 Jul 2014

this is a sunday they seem very active adding coins and upgrading clients tonight like their posts say.
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February 04, 2016, 04:28:07 AM
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https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-lk7-lucky7coin-pow-pos-bonusblock-based-on-your-lucky-7s-no-premine.170483/page-8


Re: LK7 is dead

Looks like the wallet uses IRC network on some level to communicate and has been blocked. the wallet log entry points to this:

Bitcoin Clients - http://s.rizon.net/peercoin

Pertinent line:

IRC :irc.cccp-project.net NOTICE uAMo6qoyneBshJs :*** Banned Temporary K-line 4320 min. - [G][netsec] [x847419085!~x84741908@mobile-166-147-103-161.mycingular.net: x847419085] has been matched to a known bot pattern r#392 (Bitcoin Clients - http://s.rizon.net/peercoin) - Visit http://abuse.rizon.net/akills/lookup?ip=166.147.103.161&drone for more information. (Akill ID: KJUL3ETXRM) (2014/2/25 11.03)

So their wallet will not connect.

Is this coin just dead?
bcx2014, Feb 25, 2014


https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-lk7-lucky7coin-pow-pos-bonusblock-based-on-your-lucky-7s-no-premine.170483/page-9


What's with the pump going on at Cryptsy, out of the blue!
jacob019, May 6, 2014

LK7 is #7 biggest trade volume on Cryptsy. Looks like it is being prepared for a big pump by a whale.
Buy a couple and hold them for a few days guys, there is a big chance you will double whatever you put in. But don't take my word for it, buy at won risk off course.
trdiablo, May 6, 2014

pump pumpwhen was fake hack again ?

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https://bitcointa.lk/threads/ann-lk7-lucky7coin-pow-pos-bonusblock-based-on-your-lucky-7s-no-premine.170483/page-10
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Did you compile new wallet from https://github.com/alerj78/lucky7coin ?

What do you do with the files downloaded?
None of them will run in Win7...
There is no working windows wallet yet. Only sources you can compile under linux.
socoban, Jun 2, 2014
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February 04, 2016, 04:31:19 AM
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https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/493770304347717632

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https://twitter.com/cryptsy/status/493928469869252609

We will be upgrading RDD client tonight, which will require a resync.  The hot wallet will be offline for a little bit while we upgrade.
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6:18 p.m. - 28 Jul 2014

this is a sunday they seem very active adding coins and upgrading clients tonight like their posts say.



To put your post in perspective, July 28, 2014, was a Monday, not a Sunday. Yours and mine times ARE CST, with Cryptsy's office in Florida being an hour ahead, thus 7:18 PM Paul's time, ~9 hours prior to the reduction of funds of the event.

Review this - https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/Cryptsy.com-old?page=1211 - and you'll see that Cryptsy was still conducting outputs during the downtime.

Hey, I just thought of something funny to do. Fill out them whistle-blowing-forms acting as a disgruntle formal employee spilling the beans on how Paul Vernon is one of them radical fruitcakes pigeonholing millions in bitcoins with something nefarious up his sleeve. That'll get somebody's attention.  Shocked
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