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January 24, 2013, 03:30:01 AM |
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hello thread readers  I want to make a quick question/survey mostly because I have dozens of feature on paper for BitFineX and others in my head so the questions is how many of you will like to see insurance for active positions on BFX tia  |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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Polvos
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January 24, 2013, 05:43:55 AM |
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Hello traders.
Am I the only one having problems just now using Bitfinex?
Since yesterday, I was long in BTC there for about 27.5 BTC. Today I was earning about 20$ and suddenly, when i readjusted the stop loss (I had it in 15$ and moved it to 16$), my active position automatically jumped off and sold all the BTC.
But the money isn't in my wallet. My swap was about 0,1%. I wasn't even 1:1 leveraged, because I thought lenders were asking too much for the loans, So I don't know what the problem was.
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January 24, 2013, 05:49:20 AM |
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Hello traders.
Am I the only one having problems just now using Bitfinex?
imo you are confused hehe Since yesterday, I was long in BTC there for about 27.5 BTC. Today I was earning about 20$ and suddenly, when i readjusted the stop loss (I had it in 15$ and moved it to 16$), my active position automatically jumped off and sold all the BTC. hmmmm But the money isn't in my wallet. My swap was about 0,1%. I wasn't even 1:1 leveraged, because I thought lenders were asking too much for the loans, So I don't know what the problem was. if you did not use leverage and did not take loans you did not trade on margin is more likelly that you use the exchange market what you need to do 1 check your wallets here https://bitfinex.com/managewallets2 if still is not clear post here or contact support via email |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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January 24, 2013, 05:53:50 AM |
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to check your orders go to History >> Order history or just click this link https://bitfinex.com/orderslook at your orders and check them under column type you will see what order did you made |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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Polvos
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January 24, 2013, 06:01:51 AM |
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Thanks. I think I found the problem. I pressed the wrong button changing the stop loss.  Pushed a limit-sell at 16$ instead a stop-sell. But I still cant understand why did I lose all my earnings doing that. |
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January 24, 2013, 06:02:49 AM |
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Pushed a limit-sell at 16$ instead a stop-sell. But I still cant understand why did I lose all my earnings doing that.
1 did you check your wallets ? 2 go to History >>USD btw: tu hablas español no ? (por el nombre en el foro) |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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Polvos
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January 24, 2013, 06:12:33 AM |
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Position #322 closed @ 18.151 on wallet trading (debit)33.2534 (balance)-33.2534 about 2 hours ago
Position #322 swap on wallet trading (debit)0.3073 (balance)-33.5606 about 2 hours ago
Settlement @ 18.151 on wallet trading (debit)33.5606 (balance)0.0 about 2 hours ago
Position #331 closed @ 18.285 on wallet trading (debit)0.0942 (balance)-0.0942 about 1 hour ago
Settlement @ 18.1791 on wallet trading (debit)0.0942 (balance)0.0 about 1 hour ago
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Polvos
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January 24, 2013, 06:19:20 AM |
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Maybe when I pressed the wrong button (limit.sell 28BTC at 16$) Bitfinex sold the 28 coins at that price and not to the nearest Bid prices?
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January 24, 2013, 06:20:54 AM |
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it appears to me that you did short and lost 33USD now is time to send a email to support because involves personal information so Ralph will check it and deal with this issue (is not good to post it on public forum personal info) Maybe when I pressed the wrong button (limit.sell 28BTC at 16$) Bitfinex sold the 28 coins at that price and not to the nearest Bid prices?
if that's is true you sir did discover a bug(thx for reporting), Ralph is able to edit your position to the execution price and fix the bug |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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Polvos
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January 24, 2013, 06:21:33 AM |
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Si, hablo español. Pero he posteado aquí para ver si me ayudaba más gente a entender en qué he metido la pata.
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Polvos
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January 24, 2013, 08:36:28 AM |
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I talked to the Bitfinex owner. He was very kind and helped me to understand my mistake.
Now here I must warn other noobs, like me, that want to start trading. Be careful pushing your orders!!!! And specially do not mislead limit with stop.
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unclescrooge (OP)
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January 24, 2013, 09:21:17 AM |
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Hi Polvos,
Yes indeed, it's time for me to put a warning check when you place limit or stop orders at the "wrong" price.
In your case, if you were not executed at bid price, it's because they were limit buy orders waiting to be filled that got filled at 16 (you can see that because in your ledger entries the trading fees for this order of 28 btc is 0 (BFX fees).
You made 2 other users very happy, they bought bitcoins at 16 instead of 18.
In your case, because I feel there should be a warning in the case you put a wrong order, I'll reimburse you the trading fees of yesterday and today and half your loss (rounded up to 2 btc).
Best regards and thanks for your trust
Raphael
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Polvos
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January 24, 2013, 10:14:59 AM |
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Yeah. It's a pain to learn the hard way  Thank you for helping me. I will continue trading more carefully now. I hope my mistake help others using your platform. |
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unclescrooge (OP)
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January 24, 2013, 12:14:03 PM
Last edit: January 24, 2013, 01:12:04 PM by unclescrooge |
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Hi Polvos, hi everyone,
I added a javascript check on the trading page. Now, if you put a limit buy above the current price or limit sell below current price, you will have to confirm your order or cancel it. (and the other way for stop orders).
Thanks you and happy trading,
Raphael
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Ichthyo
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January 25, 2013, 02:37:34 AM |
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Hi Polvos, hi everyone,
I added a javascript check on the trading page. Now, if you put a limit buy above the current price or limit sell below current price, you will have to confirm your order or cancel it. (and the other way for stop orders).
Thanks you and happy trading,
Raphael
looks like a good idea... Is there some kind of headroom worked in? E.g., right now the highest asks are at 16.18 -- when I try to add a stop loss order at 16.10, I get that warning "Are you sure to put a STOP SELL order above the ticker price?" -- when I use 15.10, then there is no warning. Is this how you intended it to work? |
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January 25, 2013, 02:51:45 AM |
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Hi Polvos, hi everyone,
I added a javascript check on the trading page. Now, if you put a limit buy above the current price or limit sell below current price, you will have to confirm your order or cancel it. (and the other way for stop orders).
Thanks you and happy trading,
Raphael
looks like a good idea... Is there some kind of headroom worked in? E.g., right now the highest asks are at 16.18 -- when I try to add a stop loss order at 16.10, I get that warning "Are you sure to put a STOP SELL order above the ticker price?" -- when I use 15.10, then there is no warning. Is this how you intended it to work? yes because stop sell is to sell bitcoins if the price goes down so is logical to do that a easy example 1 buy 1 bitcoin at 5 usd 2 now the price is 10 3 you set a stop sell order at 8 usd this order is designed to get you out of the market at set price in this example 8 and protect your 3 usd gains, so is working like intended no need to get a warning |
Los desesperados publican que lo inventó el rey que rabió, porque todo son en el rabias y mas rabias, disgustos y mas disgustos, pezares y mas pezares; si el que compra algunas partidas vé que baxan, rabia de haver comprado; si suben, rabia de que no compró mas; si compra, suben, vende, gana y buelan aun á mas alto precio del que ha vendido; rabia de que vendió por menor precio: si no compra ni vende y ván subiendo, rabia de que haviendo tenido impulsos de comprar, no llegó á lograr los impulsos; si van baxando, rabia de que, haviendo tenido amagos de vender, no se resolvió á gozar los amagos; si le dan algun consejo y acierta, rabia de que no se lo dieron antes; si yerra, rabia de que se lo dieron; con que todo son inquietudes, todo arrepentimientos, tododelirios, luchando siempre lo insufrible con lo feliz, lo indomito con lo tranquilo y lo rabioso con lo deleytable.
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Ichthyo
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January 25, 2013, 03:37:43 AM |
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this order is designed to get you out of the market at set price in this example 8 and protect your 3 usd gains, so is working like intended no need to get a warning
OK, so in my case there was either some hickup with the rate feed and calculation, or there is some saftey margin worked into that warning function. |
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Ichthyo
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January 25, 2013, 03:41:21 AM |
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did some experiments.
Current rate 16.49
Set stop loss order at
16.20 -> warning
16.10 -> warning
16.09 -> no warning
16.00 -> no warning
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unclescrooge (OP)
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January 25, 2013, 11:07:15 AM |
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Hello Ichthyo, Right on spot! The javascript checker wasn't updating the rate properly, so if you was staying on the trading page during price move, the check was not accurate. That's corrected, no you won't get false warning like that. Thanks for this Hope last night trading session didn't exhausted you too much. Raphael |
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Ichthyo
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January 25, 2013, 08:06:00 PM |
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Hope last night trading session didn't exhausted you too much.
This little crash yesterday was probably the first fire test for Bitfinex, wasn't it? Anyway, judging from a users perspective, the performance was OK-ish. Maybe slightly more sluggish, but not really an issue. Bitfinex is not fast enough to allow grabbing really interesting offers when the market is moving quickly, but I don't think that is a real issue, because situations like yesterday are the exception. On the other hand, at some times, bitfinex was still updating, while both bitcoincharts and clarkmoody stalled. Another feature I learned to love yesterday is the ability to borrow the leverage beforehand, e.g. when you expect a good opportunity in the next 15 minutes |
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