2024 NBA Season

[LogitechMouse]

He turned down the offer because he wants more money. That's no secret. If the offer somehow is $100M for four years, surely he will accept it. Do you really think there are teams who can offer that kind of money to him? Before landing at the Lakers, he is not even a special piece on OKC and only played 14 and 2 times as a starter respectively for 2 seasons.

Transferring to Celtics, he is only projected to have $9 to $10 a year. See what kind of offer he wasted on the Lakers if he sets aside his ego. Anyways, to make it more clear, let's wait for the final contract if ever Celtics will sign him.

I don't have to argue with that as there are two different sides of the story, and we don't know who is telling the truth.

https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2021/6/29/22556754/lakers-free-agency-rumors-dennis-schroder-contract-demands-120-million-offer

$120 Million salary for a player who scored 0 points in one of their playoff games last year?? I only thought that the 76ers management are the only greedy ones when they demanded too much on Golden State when they want to trade Simmons but it seems to me that even Schroder is also a greedy player. Ohh I think the term greedy is wrong so lets change it into "his ego is very high that he can't see his performance last playoffs".

Take note that Julius Randle has a salary of $117 Million for 4 years and he is also an All-star last season and Schroder demanded a higher salary than him whereas in terms of performance last season, its pretty obvious that Randle did better than him. Nothing to say but good luck to him in finding a team that can give him that amount of salary.

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[Vaculin]

Lebron James kicking and picking his own players to play with like they are flowers in the field while they are not even his own land and he didn't water them.

Uhmm. Wrong info.
LeBron didn't own no team. The Lakers have their own management that manages their team and players. How do you think a player could do this?
What LeBron has, is influence. He can name players he want to surround him, but the decision will always be in the management's favour, not LeBron's.
Isn't it his fault If LeBron has enough influence and so much value that he could dictate what the management should do and actually follows them?
Besides, these superstars who came after LeBron knows who can bring them ring before they retire. From Miami, Cleveland, and Lakers.

That's Lebron, we can't change him as when he started his career in the NBA, he becomes a star already and he is very consistent with his individual performance and achievement. He was very smart to leave the Cavaliers and joined a superteam as he really won a championship, and that is added to his portfolio as a star player.

Lebron has won the following.
Regular season MVP.
Finals MVP.
and championship from different teams.

there's a lot of haters of Lebron here, but it's normal.

[ChiBitCTy]

Yeah that is what I am probably most excited about, seeing what Zach Lavine can do with a legitimate roster around him.  If he can't get them to a decent playoff seed then it will show he is not the super star that some ( or he ) believes that he is or is becoming.  To actually win a championship we would still need another super star, but this is certainly a good start for him.  I have to imagine if he plays well this year he will be offered a max contract..but we shall see.  

He is even trying to showcase what he is capable of in Olympics. Just recently, USA won and Zach Lavine's steals was on the spotlight for turning the game over.
I think he got 2-3 steals + airplane dunks on that game against Australia.

Yeah I guess to an extent he is, but the Olympics aren't near the competition that the actual NBA is.  If we are being honest most of these teams would lose to the better teams in the NBA pretty handedly.  Lavine is going to need to step it up in the regular season NBA games to show that he is more than just a scorer but a consistent scorer, leader, defender etc.  Now that he has a legitimate team around him I very excited to see how he deals with having a bunch of other solid players around him.

I just want to share this picture that was shared in our Facebook GC.

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This Lakers lineup is better than the starting 5 of the current team USA, if this Laker team will play, they can easily win the championship and will never give France a chance to even close in the scoring. Would you agree with my statement here?

I am not sure I can agree with you guys here on this one.  Carmelo Anthony and Dwight Howard are a shell of their former selves. I’ll take Durant over Lebron right now, I’ll take Lillard over Westbrook, I’ll take Tatum over Carmelo and I’ll take Adebayo over Howard.  Its going to be a solid team but let’s not forget Lebron is on the tail end of his career along with Melo and Howard. Also Anthony Davis can’t stay healthy to save his life. I’ll take the Nets over these guys I think.

[Yogee]

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Here's the betting odds for NBA championship in the next season. Lakers is current 2nd to the nets as the favorites to win.

https://www.nba.com/nbabet/nba-title-odds-nets-lakers-early-betting-favorites-for-2022-season

2022 NBA Title Odds
Odds as of July 21 via DraftKings

TEAM   ODDS
Nets   +210
Lakers   +450
Bucks   +800

The defending champ is +800, it's the same lineup, so I think they are undervalued here.

^^ Yeah, being the defending champ and only rank 3rd as the favorite, doesn't make sense.

Bucks is definitely undervalued with those odds. I actually like their chances of retaining their title when they didn't make major changes in their roster. I think the bookies are using the big names as basis which is also acceptable for now. It's a great chance for Bucks fans to win big nonetheless.

[Taskford]

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Here's the betting odds for NBA championship in the next season. Lakers is current 2nd to the nets as the favorites to win.

https://www.nba.com/nbabet/nba-title-odds-nets-lakers-early-betting-favorites-for-2022-season

2022 NBA Title Odds
Odds as of July 21 via DraftKings

TEAM   ODDS
Nets   +210
Lakers   +450
Bucks   +800

The defending champ is +800, it's the same lineup, so I think they are undervalued here.

^^ Yeah, being the defending champ and only rank 3rd as the favorite, doesn't make sense.

Bucks is definitely undervalued with those odds. I actually like their chances of retaining their title when they didn't make major changes in their roster. I think the bookies are using the big names as basis which is also acceptable for now. It's a great chance for Bucks fans to win big nonetheless.

That's amazing move to their management since they settle to improve their current line up than getting those big stars and work again with chemistry which for sure takes time. I'm still confident that bucks will still give a good fight just to reach the finals eventhough there are teams who recruit strong players to play with them next season. Lets see one next season on how bucks will defend their title since many strong teams has been build up and they are huge threat on winning the champ.

[Reid]

NBA managements, aside from the fine money is also looking for some sort of respect. They implement the rules and every team and players

are not exempt and needs to follow the rules that they signed after participating to this organization.

Respect. Hmm, I think they had that before. It's just that, team management could be excited about their new addition to the roster that's why it was earlier a minute, an hour or before they open the trades. It's still the trade day, and maybe just a different timeline.

The defending champ is +800, it's the same lineup, so I think they are undervalued here.

C'mon. Giannis still didn't gain the respect that he deserved.
He did great in the Finals changing the way NBA fans view basketball again. It's not just about 3 point shots anymore the inside game was brought back to life.
Nuggets vs Bucks this year.  Offense in the paint will be resurrected. Jokic vs Giannis. 

[Fredomago]

C'mon. Giannis still didn't gain the respect that he deserved.
He did great in the Finals changing the way NBA fans view basketball again. It's not just about 3 point shots anymore the inside game was brought back to life.

Still not believing because of so many injuries,  but he already accomplished what all the stars wanted from this league, league MVP, all star MVP and a title for his name, good enough to complete a resume naming a superstar inside all the stars of the league.

Nuggets vs Bucks this year.  Offense in the paint will be resurrected. Jokic vs Giannis. 

With healthy Jamal and with the same lineup It's very possible to see this at the finals, though I'm also eyeing for the warriors with
a healthy splash bro and a possible Simmons, I'll wait if this would happened.

[wheelz1200]

C'mon. Giannis still didn't gain the respect that he deserved.
He did great in the Finals changing the way NBA fans view basketball again. It's not just about 3 point shots anymore the inside game was brought back to life.

Still not believing because of so many injuries,  but he already accomplished what all the stars wanted from this league, league MVP, all star MVP and a title for his name, good enough to complete a resume naming a superstar inside all the stars of the league.

Nuggets vs Bucks this year.  Offense in the paint will be resurrected. Jokic vs Giannis. 

With healthy Jamal and with the same lineup It's very possible to see this at the finals, though I'm also eyeing for the warriors with
a healthy splash bro and a possible Simmons, I'll wait if this would happened.

Yeah I would have loved to see a healthy Jamal and the Nugs breakthrough this definitely was a year they could.  West is up in the air.  A healthy kahwi team could contend, healthy warriors team can, Lakers, Utah, Suns, etc etc.  West is real deep so long as they are healthy.  Should be a fun upcoming year.

[TheGreatPython]

unfortunately these days Howard will be a great reserve for  AD (even AD playing as PF and C).
I hope we don't see that scene in the 2012/13 or 14 season (I can't remember exactly) where the Lakers had Nash(PG), Kobe(SG), Meta World Peace (SF), Pau Gasol (PF) and Howard (C), they create a excelent team to fight on equal terms against the Heat in that time (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen and others players), but amazingly, this Lakers team was a real fiasco.

I sincerely hope Howard can perform better in the Lakers than his last appearance on the team.

The path is basically the same. That year they were not so great because Nash was 100 years old and had huge back problems, many smaller players have back problems after playing basketball for over 20 years (these guys play before NBA too, we have to remember that) and that meant that he wasn't 100% himself, plus he was older anyway even on healthy situations and not the MVP Nash we all remember. Kobe got injured that same year, and Howard was injured for a little while as well.

Only players that were healthy as far as I remember were Gasol and Artest which doesn't mean much. Plus they were not deep neither. Same goes for this Lakers as well, Melo is old, very old, Lebron gets injured, he had it on his first years at Lakers and last year as well, AD gets injured all the time, like constantly throughout his career, and Westbrook is getting to that age as well, who knows? So injuries could keep them from being anything at all, barely make it to playoffs, if it happens. If not and they are healthy then....

[dwyane36]

Yeah I would have loved to see a healthy Jamal and the Nugs breakthrough this definitely was a year they could.  West is up in the air.  A healthy kahwi team could contend, healthy warriors team can, Lakers, Utah, Suns, etc etc.  West is real deep so long as they are healthy.  Should be a fun upcoming year.

It's worth noting that the Nuggets looked great at the end of the previous season, even without Jamal. By the way, there will be a very strong competition in the West Conference, and I think that now it's difficult to predict which teams will meet in the WCF, although the Lakers will be favorites for me.

[Questat]

Yeah I would have loved to see a healthy Jamal and the Nugs breakthrough this definitely was a year they could.  West is up in the air.  A healthy kahwi team could contend, healthy warriors team can, Lakers, Utah, Suns, etc etc.  West is real deep so long as they are healthy.  Should be a fun upcoming year.

It's worth noting that the Nuggets looked great at the end of the previous season, even without Jamal. By the way, there will be a very strong competition in the West Conference, and I think that now it's difficult to predict which teams will meet in the WCF, although the Lakers will be favorites for me.

Yes, it's hard to predict because last playoffs, we were expecting that the Lakers would dominate the West, but injury happened and they made an early exit in the season. Clippers for me still have a chance though, they are silent now as they don't have any major roster addition but as long as Kawhi is healthy, they still have a chance, a big chance actually.

[OgNasty]

Dennis Schroder’s rejection of the Lakers 80 million dollar contract has to be one of the biggest blunders ever. I’m happy he did it, because it was obvious he wasn’t worth the 80 million dollars, but seeing him now try to negotiate a 5 million dollar contract which he may not even get to play on a worse team has to be humbling for him. He’ll lose 15 million dollars this year alone for gambling on himself. I guess if you’re going to bet on yourself you need a firm grasp on reality. My bet is that Schroder never again has the opportunity to make 80 million dollars.

[arwin100]

Dennis Schroder’s rejection of the Lakers 80 million dollar contract has to be one of the biggest blunders ever. I’m happy he did it, because it was obvious he wasn’t worth the 80 million dollars, but seeing him now try to negotiate a 5 million dollar contract which he may not even get to play on a worse team has to be humbling for him. He’ll lose 15 million dollars this year alone for gambling on himself. I guess if you’re going to bet on yourself you need a firm grasp on reality. My bet is that Schroder never again has the opportunity to make 80 million dollars.

What a total waste of money and for sure he will regret his decision for his entire life imagine he wasted that 80 million dollar contract and try to ask for more when he didn't give anything to his team yet. Now for sure he will struggle to get that 80 million $ contract back especially if he fails to give a good performance to the team where he accept the offers. I guess this is the start where his career ends so hopefully he will give his best shot if he can get a contract so that he can increase his value if not 80 million but for a decent amount.

[Baofeng]

Guys, guys. It's no question they all have the attitude.  Men's ego and pride. How much more when they become a superstar?
Lebron James kicking and picking his own players to play with like they are flowers in the field while they are not even his own land and he didn't water them.
Schroder thinks he is a star and no doubt Lebron thinks the same way and their egos are battling on the shadows. This happened with IT (Isaiah Thomas) too while he was in Cleveland.
Celtics will not be as bad of a drop point for Schroder. Brown's wrist injury may need some rehabilitation to avoid going back. He could be a good wingman for Tatum if that happens or be the best bench player and finally seal that Sixth Man of the Year award and boost his worth. (runner-up OKC 2019-2020)

Hehehe, so much argument about the Dennis Schroder case: Dennis Schröder agrees to one-year, $5.9 million deal with Celtics.

So let's see if he can blend with Tatum and Jaylen Brown in the Celtics uniform, but as far as the money goes, well it's obvious he didn't gave what he wanted for.

[Fredomago]

Yeah I would have loved to see a healthy Jamal and the Nugs breakthrough this definitely was a year they could.  West is up in the air.  A healthy kahwi team could contend, healthy warriors team can, Lakers, Utah, Suns, etc etc.  West is real deep so long as they are healthy.  Should be a fun upcoming year.

From all the listed  players from the poll, it's only Kawhi haven't got any updates is he going to stay with the Clippers?  update: (he' going to re-sign a contract still fnalizing terms) if he'll stay and if he played with a healthy condition they still have the title contender not as heavy favorite but still a caliber team who can chase it.

Those teams that you mentioned are all have equal chance to win this title, though we still don't have updates from the final rosters of each franchise it surely going to be a fun season this coming year.

Just love to see how coaches will use those 5 stars rotating them with roles players to avoid getting serious injuries.

[Reid]

With healthy Jamal and with the same lineup It's very possible to see this at the finals, though I'm also eyeing for the warriors with
a healthy splash bro and a possible Simmons, I'll wait if this would happened.

Oh yeah, splash brothers are back on the field.
Let's not forget Draymond the wise.   That guy is scary underneath the rim and even in the offensive transition plays.
If ever they decide to take Simmons, there will be more trouble for other teams attacking the paint when both Ben and Draymond have a good lateral quickness that could stop even agile players.
West is full. Throw some in the East. Oops, they just did. Schroder $5.9m 1-year contract at Celtics.

[Dave1]

As far as Vogel goes, he didn't give Dwight Howard a precious time during the big man's tenure in the 2020 Bubble. He just becomes a starter a couple of times. The same experience happens in his Philadelphia Sixers tenure last season where he only started 6 times. That's one of the reasons why Howard's overall stats that year is far from his average or I considered it low. I'm not really expecting this guy to be one of the assets of the Lakers this upcoming season but since he's a Center and the Lakers are lacking it, he is a good backup.

About Melo, I'm sure he will be more utilized. Vogel must try giving him more playing time as he still has it and his shooting stroke is still good as we have seen in his former team, Portland Trail Blazers. Another good backup role right from the bench.

I totally agree with you, unfortunately these days Howard will be a great reserve for  AD (even AD playing as PF and C).
I hope we don't see that scene in the 2012/13 or 14 season (I can't remember exactly) where the Lakers had Nash(PG), Kobe(SG), Meta World Peace (SF), Pau Gasol (PF) and Howard (C), they create a excelent team to fight on equal terms against the Heat in that time (LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen and others players), but amazingly, this Lakers team was a real fiasco.

I sincerely hope Howard can perform better in the Lakers than his last appearance on the team.

He already did good a good performance with the Lakers during his last stint, helping them to win the title (remember how he guarded Jokic that time, using his experience with this mind games), and then he says that he will be staying with the Lakers and then at the last minutes sign with the Sixers and he is back again. Regarding that 2012/2013 with that line up, most of them are really way past their prime and then some ego clashing.

[LogitechMouse]

Dennis Schroder’s rejection of the Lakers 80 million dollar contract has to be one of the biggest blunders ever. I’m happy he did it, because it was obvious he wasn’t worth the 80 million dollars, but seeing him now try to negotiate a 5 million dollar contract which he may not even get to play on a worse team has to be humbling for him. He’ll lose 15 million dollars this year alone for gambling on himself. I guess if you’re going to bet on yourself you need a firm grasp on reality. My bet is that Schroder never again has the opportunity to make 80 million dollars.

I saw yesterday that he doesn't want the $5.9 Million Dollar offer by the Celtics instead, he want $9.5 Million Dollar for one year What a funny decision for him.
Now he is feeling it. The consequences of being greedy. From $20M per year to $5.9M for one year . With this, there might be a possibility that the Celtics might not sign him especially if he can't redeem himself. I agree with what you said though that he will not make 80 Million Dollars again unless, he will show an all-star performance with the Celtics.

Just see his face in the picture . It looks like he regretted his decision . Just kidding.

[danherbias07]

Lebron James kicking and picking his own players to play with like they are flowers in the field while they are not even his own land and he didn't water them.

Uhmm. Wrong info.
LeBron didn't own no team. The Lakers have their own management that manages their team and players. How do you think a player could do this?
What LeBron has, is influence. He can name players he want to surround him, but the decision will always be in the management's favour, not LeBron's.
Isn't it his fault If LeBron has enough influence and so much value that he could dictate what the management should do and actually follows them?
Besides, these superstars who came after LeBron knows who can bring them ring before they retire. From Miami, Cleveland, and Lakers.

Errr, almost the same. I didn't say he own the team. He is picking and if he didn't like what the management put in their team he will show it and it's actually obvious on the faces and actions he made with IT at Cavs. I am not like the Lebron haters out there, I like him actually when he started, there's just a big difference after he received the reputation. People change.

"We're told Dallas finished second behind the Heat for Lowry; he was intrigued by the Mavericks, who were willing to meet his price tag, but he preferred playing with Butler in Miami. New Orleans was willing to go to $90 million over three years or more, according to a source, but Lowry never leaned toward going there, according to the source. Lowry took three years and $85 million from Miami."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/nba-free-agency-rumors-mavericks-finished-second-in-kyle-lowry-sweepstakes/
Could this be the reason behind the investigation being done by the NBA with Lowry? Teams not having a chance to offer something to players because they are signed too early.

[Karartma1]

The best shots closed during the 2021 NBA market: let's take a look at what were the top signings in the free agency that started just a week ago.
Free agency 2021 hasn't closed yet as several players have to unveil their next destination. But the bulk of it is definitely behind us, with key veterans already settled on their next adventure.
Malik Monk, Los Angeles Lakers (1 year, $1.8 million)
Otto Porter Jr., Golden State Warriors (1 year, $2.4 million)
Blake Griffin, Brooklyn Nets (1 year, $2.6 million)
Bruce Brown, Brooklyn Nets (1 year, $4.7 million)
Cameron Payne, Phoenix Suns (3 years, $19 million)
Reggie Bullock, Dallas Mavericks (3 years, $30.5 million)
Lonzo Ball, Chicago Bulls (4 years, $85 million)