2024 NBA Season

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[1] https://www.si.com/nba/mavericks/news/dallas-mavs-trade-kyrie-irving-brooklyn-nets-rumors-kevin-durant

Well, this is just my opinion and I like Brunson more than Kyrie Irving, and I think Kyrie Irving is not a good fit for the Dallas Mavericks, he can surely do the offense works by himself but I don't see him as a defensive player at all, and not like Stephen Curry that is playing both roles, I can not trust Kyrie Irving with the defensive department, and I think the Mavericks would likely to used some hands when it comes with defense, but it is your opinion, I really think it is a loss for the Mavericks, and this Article is just rumors and not confirmed yet, because I think Kyrie Irving is likely to be staying for the Brooklyn Nets until his last contract, here is the ARTICLE

I really suggest to read the article that I provide because that’s the latest on this trade talk, The Article you provide is 5 days ago while Brunson just leave few days ago to start this trade talk humor. The article says that it will makes it a lot easier for the Mavs to work out a deal with the Nets since it wouldn't have to be a sign-and-trade. Dallas would simply have to match Irving's salary with some combination of players these players which is very possible when they really want to push this trade. We have different point of view on how we see Kyrie Irving so I will not gonna argue about your remarks about him.

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[carlisle1]

We have different point of view on how we see Kyrie Irving so I will not gonna argue about your remarks about him.

I like that statement, we all have a different point of view regarding to a certain player, and it's all about how fans believe with their

idols, in regard to this trade, both players are valuable and it's up to the team owners and coaches that will handle the players

we can't conclude if ever the trade happened if who will win with this possible trades until we see them playing and performing

who knows they are in two different divisions, might be possible that they've met in the finals right?

[RealMalatesta]

I really suggest to read the article that I provide because that’s the latest on this trade talk, The Article you provide is 5 days ago while Brunson just leave few days ago to start this trade talk humor. The article says that it will makes it a lot easier for the Mavs to work out a deal with the Nets since it wouldn't have to be a sign-and-trade. Dallas would simply have to match Irving's salary with some combination of players these players which is very possible when they really want to push this trade. We have different point of view on how we see Kyrie Irving so I will not gonna argue about your remarks about him.

I still think it makes no sense to get Irving when the team is already doing so well. I mean Mavs went to conference finals and that is with Doncic and good role players, they have no other superstar in the team. They could just keep it rolling like this for a while, and hope that they could get a superstar from some free agency or with some picks etc etc. That way, they would be able to get a ring, I am not saying that just because they reached conference finals once, they will do it again every year, they may not be that good again next season.

But, at least they have something they could hope for. With a big trade off, they would be risking too much, which may payoff, but Irving is known to not do well with teams, even if talented, hence I doubt it.

[dwyane36]

The purposed is for a reliable point guard that can serve a substitute with Luka to give him some time. The chemistry is also can be work out if they will push to this trade but I just realized that Kyrie has an attitude problem which might be bad for Mavs if Luka don’t accept Kyrie.

Kyrie - Westbrook is worst that Kyrie - Luka because westbrook is much more downgrade by Durant with same attitude problem with Kyrie. This will gonna an insane trade if Lakers proceed to this. Even Lebron can blend with him.

To be honest, I doubt that Irving is the kind of player that Mark Cuban would like to have on his team. So it's unlikely that we'll ever see Irving in Mavs uniform. As far as I know, the Lakers and Nets are already actively discussing the terms of the deal, and there are rumors that the Nets may get Westbrook, THT or Nunn and draft picks, while the Lakers may get Irving and Harris or Curry.

[chaser15]

Jalen Brunson - Losing Jalen Brunson was not the smart idea for the Mavericks and Brunson had gone to the New York Knicks, this is a win for Brunson and a loss for Mavericks,

The Dallas Mavericks won. Why they should keep a player that there's no intention of playing with them? Brunson chooses a team that is not a playoffs contender so it all end up with the money. Dallas offered him with $45-50M 3-years contract and that was just a reasonable contact but he wants more that's why he take the Knicks' offer of $100M+ for 3 years. Imagine he's already on a good team but chooses the worst team. Dallas didn't match the contract as that was just a waste of the salary cap where they can use it to get more role players. Brunson is good but he's not Luka.

Someone also posted here that Brunson's hometown is New York and his father was part of the coaching staff of the Knicks. It means it's a good decision for the Mavericks to let go of Brunson as they already did their best to make him stay. Brunson was really going to Knicks but just waiting if the Mavericks will pay him more.

[Jating]

Jalen Brunson - Losing Jalen Brunson was not the smart idea for the Mavericks and Brunson had gone to the New York Knicks, this is a win for Brunson and a loss for Mavericks,

The Dallas Mavericks won. Why they should keep a player that there's no intention of playing with them? Brunson chooses a team that is not a playoffs contender so it all end up with the money. Dallas offered him with $45-50M 3-years contract and that was just a reasonable contact but he wants more that's why he take the Knicks' offer of $100M+ for 3 years. Imagine he's already on a good team but chooses the worst team. Dallas didn't match the contract as that was just a waste of the salary cap where they can use it to get more role players. Brunson is good but he's not Luka.

Someone also posted here that Brunson's hometown is New York and his father was part of the coaching staff of the Knicks. It means it's a good decision for the Mavericks to let go of Brunson as they already did their best to make him stay. Brunson was really going to Knicks but just waiting if the Mavericks will pay him more.

I think that's Brunson target, and  maybe it was finalized through his father and that is why the Knicks have traded some of their players to clear some cap and then get Brunson. Mavs can't do anything about it anyways. And yeah, we might say they Mavs won in this trade, because we don't know if Brunson is going to play like an All star when he moves to New York. Mavs can get another player and developed him to be their next point guard.

[Baofeng]

If we are talking about super max contract, we got one:  Denver Nuggets star Nikola Jokic agrees to five-year, $270 million supermax extension.

Denver Nuggets star Nikola Jokic has agreed to the largest contract in NBA history -- a five-year, $270 million supermax extension, his agents, Jeff Schwartz and Mike Lindeman of Excel Sports, told ESPN on Friday.

Jokic, the two-time reigning Most Valuable Player, is now secured to the Nuggets for a total of six seasons for $303 million.

The deal includes a player option and a trade kicker. The contract will kick in during the 2023-24 season at $46.6 million and climb every season until 2027-28, when Jokic is set to make $61.5 million.

I think he deserves every penny of it, he really work hard to get to this position, winning multiple MVP's now. But the argument is, can he get this team at least to the NBA finals? Although Jamal Murray and then Porter Jr was injured, but if both or at least one of them play next season, I'm expecting the Dallas to make a run to the championship.

[chaser15]

I think he deserves every penny of it, he really work hard to get to this position, winning multiple MVP's now. But the argument is, can he get this team at least to the NBA finals? Although Jamal Murray and then Porter Jr was injured, but if both or at least one of them play next season, I'm expecting the Dallas to make a run to the championship.

Truly a deserving contact.

I think we should not question if he can get this team to NBA Finals since he needs a good teammate to do that. Jokic is doing his best but that was all useless if his teammates won't do their job to help him. Jokic might be more aggressive next season because the Nuggets rewarded him and treat Jokic as their precious player.

What the Nuggets should do next is to join the free agency and find the best players to assist Jokic on their rally next season.

[jossiel]

It's not them to decide if they want to stay with the Warriors.

But it's the Warriors management to decide and it has been decided that they'll stay because it's said that they'll get a priority of staying and the management will spent a lot for them to stay.

That's why most of us are excited to see how they'll do with the next season because we'll still see Wiggins and Poole with Steph, Klay and Dray.

But their performance is worthy to look at if the Warriors management wanted them to stay or not.

However, the argument that they will spend way too much just for their big 5 might bite them later. Because there are still things like injuries that could really affect their performance. Hard decision, but hopefully, if Wiggins and Poole are willing to have a pay cut just to stay in the team and then make a run again, then much better. But still up to them, for sure other teams might offer them a better pay.

True.

There's no debate for that, we all want them to see stay with the same team because of their contribution to the ring that they've got for the past season.

Well, those problems will certainly exist eventually. But it's for them to tackle it and they have just to lean on what they've said of keeping most of these players.

[harizen]

I also think the same, it could be a great tandem and a good addition to the win that is why I listed it as a win for me,

I guess it depends on who they will trade for Gobert.

Bunch of players will be sent to Jazz for Gorbert, I don't know I don't like this thread or I think Jazz gets the advantage here.

I'm not looking yet at the trade details involving Rudy Gobert but from the list, you have posted, that was an insane trade and not a worth deal.

Those 3-4 first-round picks can be a potential superstars in the making in the future. Teams are even tanking just to get that 1st round picks on the draft night. Might make sense to give up 1 first-round pick but for multiple players involved, that was a waste of talent just for Rudy Gobert.

Need to check deeply the details of this trade. Utah Jazz clearly won the trade if that's the return they will get on trading Rudy Gobert.

[Yogee]

Miami Heat- They are doomed if there's no reliable additions with P.J. Tucker leaving.

Is he that impactful to the Heat? I doubt that. The team have enough in that position to cover his departure. Let's not also forget that they drafted a 6' 11" guy Nikola Jović. That's younger and taller than him so I think they are still good even if they are not very active in the trades yet.

....But the argument is, can he get this team at least to the NBA finals? Although Jamal Murray and then Porter Jr was injured, but if both or at least one of them play next season, I'm expecting the Dallas to make a run to the championship.

No if it's just him and some role players.
No again if one of the trio is missing.

Not to devalue the competition in the East but we're talking about the Western Conference here. Each team needs at least three guys to contribute on a consistent basis if they want a higher chance at getting to the Finals.

[LogitechMouse]

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wow... I confess that I found these negotiations between Minnesota and Jazz very interesting!
I believe, Rudy Gobert will be able to make a excelent duo with KAT 

Let's see how the team will behave with these negociations that occurred between Jazz and Timberwolves

The first teammates who got $200M+ contracts and they are both bigs.
I wonder how these 2 will fit with each other. Who will make adjustments. Will we see both of them at the court more often. I didn't see any team who has 2 bigs playing most of the time that's why I'm a bit curious on how will the Timberwolves will adjust into it or if they really fit with each other.

....But the argument is, can he get this team at least to the NBA finals? Although Jamal Murray and then Porter Jr was injured, but if both or at least one of them play next season, I'm expecting the Dallas to make a run to the championship.

No if it's just him and some role players.
No again if one of the trio is missing.

Not to devalue the competition in the East but we're talking about the Western Conference here. Each team needs at least three guys to contribute on a consistent basis if they want a higher chance at getting to the Finals.

I agree. We've seen already how much Jokic can carry his team only by himself.
We are now in an era where in order for a team to win, you need at least 2 all-star players. Jokic himself can't carry the team to the Finals and he needs either Murray, Porter or both of them. I just hope that Murray and MPJ will come back this upcoming season so they can help Jokic because with 3 of them being healthy, I believe they can be in the Finals.

[danherbias07]

Denver Nuggets- I am expecting them to make some moves. MVP Jokic needs some help ffs. I felt like they don't deserved Jokic. Jokic is such a very nice guy with some loyalty.

The only team that was not aggressive on early trades and sign-up. Jokic will get his help. Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. are healthy and those two had been the big contributors to their offense. They have the right roster and the skills, it's just the injuries that stopped them to be on top.
What's scarier is Jokic getting better and better at his role being the playmaker at a center position.


https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1543277281283538947?s=20&t=9sHAFywYsHgUlmPGjlR9YQ

ESPN story on Cleveland's Darius Garland agreeing on a rookie maximum extension that could become worth $231 million:

Some crazy numbers.  But he deserves it. He lifted the spirits of Cleveland once again with his crazy speed and skills. Good deal.

[gagux123]

The first teammates who got $200M+ contracts and they are both bigs.
I wonder how these 2 will fit with each other. Who will make adjustments. Will we see both of them at the court more often. I didn't see any team who has 2 bigs playing most of the time that's why I'm a bit curious on how will the Timberwolves will adjust into it or if they really fit with each other.

I believe it could be something similar with the duo of AD and Cousins when they played at New Orleans Pelicans

AD - slightly smaller than Cousins, versatile, faster and with a good shot (short and medium range) - (AD can play - PF or C)
Cousins - slightly taller than AD, stronger, less versatile, a good player - C.

I believe we will have something similar with the Timberwolves

KAT - smaller, more versatile, faster and has a better shot than Gobert - (KAT can easily play like PF or C)
Gobert - Taller and more athletic than KAT

I'll be very curious to know how this duo can behave in the next NBA season.

[Baofeng]

....But the argument is, can he get this team at least to the NBA finals? Although Jamal Murray and then Porter Jr was injured, but if both or at least one of them play next season, I'm expecting the Dallas to make a run to the championship.

No if it's just him and some role players.
No again if one of the trio is missing.

Not to devalue the competition in the East but we're talking about the Western Conference here. Each team needs at least three guys to contribute on a consistent basis if they want a higher chance at getting to the Finals.

Yeah, but we have seen Luka doing it in the West beating the top seed Suns. In the beginning they are doing good when Porter Jr went down. But yet they still manage to win the playoffs.

And with Jokic's caliber, and some of their role players, Perhaps Jokic + Porter Jr, or Jokic + Murray might be good to contend in a very competitive West. Of course, they need to be complete, but at least someone who can complement him is needed to get past the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs.

[Ziskinberg]

....But the argument is, can he get this team at least to the NBA finals? Although Jamal Murray and then Porter Jr was injured, but if both or at least one of them play next season, I'm expecting the Dallas to make a run to the championship.

No if it's just him and some role players.
No again if one of the trio is missing.

Not to devalue the competition in the East but we're talking about the Western Conference here. Each team needs at least three guys to contribute on a consistent basis if they want a higher chance at getting to the Finals.

Yeah, but we have seen Luka doing it in the West beating the top seed Suns. In the beginning they are doing good when Porter Jr went down. But yet they still manage to win the playoffs.

And with Jokic's caliber, and some of their role players, Perhaps Jokic + Porter Jr, or Jokic + Murray might be good to contend in a very competitive West. Of course, they need to be complete, but at least someone who can complement him is needed to get past the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs.

Murray is the best tandem of Jokic because he is very consistent, even without Porter Jr., I think Jokic and company have a chance to be in the NBA Finals. I like to see them both healthy next season as we've seen already that Jokic alone cannot carry this team.

[inthelongrun]

Miami Heat- They are doomed if there's no reliable additions with P.J. Tucker leaving.

Is he that impactful to the Heat? I doubt that. The team have enough in that position to cover his departure. Let's not also forget that they drafted a 6' 11" guy Nikola Jović. That's younger and taller than him so I think they are still good even if they are not very active in the trades yet.

Of course he was. Tucker though getting old, he is a just a perfect player in his own game. A huge inexperienced rookie is nothing compared to a veteran like Tucker with many years in the playoffs including his championship experience. The guy is just too tough, a good passer who can also set up plays, he can defend and he can shoot. I expect Miami to look for a reliable replacement in his position.

Denver Nuggets- I am expecting them to make some moves. MVP Jokic needs some help ffs. I felt like they don't deserved Jokic. Jokic is such a very nice guy with some loyalty.

The only team that was not aggressive on early trades and sign-up. Jokic will get his help. Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. are healthy and those two had been the big contributors to their offense. They have the right roster and the skills, it's just the injuries that stopped them to be on top.
What's scarier is Jokic getting better and better at his role being the playmaker at a center position.

I am doubtful on MPJ. I felt like he is just a hype and he cannot fill it once given a primary role. Anyways, I hope they all look healthy next season so we can see how it goes.

[Oasisman]

The purposed is for a reliable point guard that can serve a substitute with Luka to give him some time. The chemistry is also can be work out if they will push to this trade but I just realized that Kyrie has an attitude problem which might be bad for Mavs if Luka don’t accept Kyrie.

Kyrie - Westbrook is worst that Kyrie - Luka because westbrook is much more downgrade by Durant with same attitude problem with Kyrie. This will gonna an insane trade if Lakers proceed to this. Even Lebron can blend with him.

To be honest, I doubt that Irving is the kind of player that Mark Cuban would like to have on his team. So it's unlikely that we'll ever see Irving in Mavs uniform. As far as I know, the Lakers and Nets are already actively discussing the terms of the deal, and there are rumors that the Nets may get Westbrook, THT or Nunn and draft picks, while the Lakers may get Irving and Harris or Curry.

Irving will most probably going to land to the Lakers. I mean LeBron is very eager for this trade to happen. Rumors says, one of the major thing that's holding is the Nets demanded to trade both Kyrie and Harris, but the Lakers wants Seth Curry instead. This might be just a small conflict of interest as both party's priority is to get rid of Kyrie and WB.
Another notable trade would be for Nets and GSW, as KD would most likely to return to GSW in exchanges with almost all of the GSW's young talent including Jordan Poole.

[stadus]

The purposed is for a reliable point guard that can serve a substitute with Luka to give him some time. The chemistry is also can be work out if they will push to this trade but I just realized that Kyrie has an attitude problem which might be bad for Mavs if Luka don’t accept Kyrie.

Kyrie - Westbrook is worst that Kyrie - Luka because westbrook is much more downgrade by Durant with same attitude problem with Kyrie. This will gonna an insane trade if Lakers proceed to this. Even Lebron can blend with him.

To be honest, I doubt that Irving is the kind of player that Mark Cuban would like to have on his team. So it's unlikely that we'll ever see Irving in Mavs uniform. As far as I know, the Lakers and Nets are already actively discussing the terms of the deal, and there are rumors that the Nets may get Westbrook, THT or Nunn and draft picks, while the Lakers may get Irving and Harris or Curry.

Irving will most probably going to land to the Lakers. I mean LeBron is very eager for this trade to happen. Rumors says, one of the major thing that's holding is the Nets demanded to trade both Kyrie and Harris, but the Lakers wants Seth Curry instead. This might be just a small conflict of interest as both party's priority is to get rid of Kyrie and WB.
Another notable trade would be for Nets and GSW, as KD would most likely to return to GSW in exchanges with almost all of the GSW's young talent including Jordan Poole.

Warriors have proven that they don't need Durant to win, so there's no reason they will trade their young talent in order to accommodate Durant. Also, that will affect the legacy of Curry as with Durant, his production might be limited since during the seasons that they won a championship with Durant, it was also Durant who is the Finals MVP.

[Kelvinid]

Warriors have proven that they don't need Durant to win, so there's no reason they will trade their young talent in order to accommodate Durant. Also, that will affect the legacy of Curry as with Durant, his production might be limited since during the seasons that they won a championship with Durant, it was also Durant who is the Finals MVP.

They have proven it last season when they won a championship, so this team does not need another superstar to improve their roster as the big 3 is already enough to win a championship. Besides, there's no news yet that Wiggins will be traded, so they might keep him and they are still intact even with some new players will be filled for the players that has already signed with other teams.