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July 09, 2022, 10:13:35 PM
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There are still rumours about Lakers to trade Kyrie Irving with Russell Westbrook now. This rumours are making me really excited already. Because Westbrook's performance in the latest season was horrible. Lebron was so alone about carrying the team to victories and they had a terrible season. This must come to an end for them. This trade can make a really huge change for this team. Irving and Lebron both would be the leaders of the team and Irving is unbelievably good when it comes to scoring too.

You must be forgotten what's the reason why Kyrie left the Cavaliers. It's no secret that he don't want to be under the shadow of LeBron or even by anyone. I don't know if James-Irving tandem will still work. I'd rather keep Westbrook than signing Irving. My only issue is Westbrook's salary since it's a waste of cap but for me, I like him to stay. Irving's attitude is unpredictable and he didn't bother to think if his decision will affect the team. If only he's the only affected one then he can be an Actress all along but once he turned into something unusual, it's a domino effect for the team.

Westbrook on the other hand just needs to work on returning to his usual self. He didn't become a ball hog in Lakers, at least in most games. He is cooperating with LeBron but the problem is he is always off-night. He just needs a boost and be consistent. Westbrook has a chance to become better again compare to Irving that chances of being unpredictable is always high.

It's hard to managed a drama king on the team. Celtics and Nets knows that lol.

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July 09, 2022, 11:22:56 PM
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Well, a former GSW player, Payton II is no longer going to be part of his champ team. He'll be out of the team and will play for Portland Blazers. This is like a week old news but I've just seen it.

I thought that most of them will be retained by the management but it seems only those that had really contributed a lot. Thus, this is part of the business, letting go is a must and happens most of the time.

Gary Payton II seems happy on Portland Trailblazer here is the video clip, Gary Payton II is a great talent with stealing the ball, in their last game with the Phoenix Suns, he messes with Chris Paul by guarding him and ruining his game, Chris Paul eventually talking to the Ref, on why he hasn't called anything, but yes, Gary Payton, in my opinion, is a let go for the Golden State Warriors but things are not forever but Thank you Gary Payton II for his service for the Warriors,

Gary has reason to be happy because the Blazers signed him to a three-year contract worth $28 million. If I'm not mistaken, that's the biggest contract of his career. He definitely deserved it, and I hope he will progress more with his new team. As for the Warriors, they should have retained the current championship roster, but it looks like the Warriors' management doesn't want to meet all the financial demands of some players.

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July 10, 2022, 01:39:11 AM
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Well, a former GSW player, Payton II is no longer going to be part of his champ team. He'll be out of the team and will play for Portland Blazers. This is like a week old news but I've just seen it.

I thought that most of them will be retained by the management but it seems only those that had really contributed a lot. Thus, this is part of the business, letting go is a must and happens most of the time.

Gary Payton II seems happy on Portland Trailblazer here is the video clip, Gary Payton II is a great talent with stealing the ball, in their last game with the Phoenix Suns, he messes with Chris Paul by guarding him and ruining his game, Chris Paul eventually talking to the Ref, on why he hasn't called anything, but yes, Gary Payton, in my opinion, is a let go for the Golden State Warriors but things are not forever but Thank you Gary Payton II for his service for the Warriors,

Gary has reason to be happy because the Blazers signed him to a three-year contract worth $28 million. If I'm not mistaken, that's the biggest contract of his career. He definitely deserved it, and I hope he will progress more with his new team. As for the Warriors, they should have retained the current championship roster, but it looks like the Warriors' management doesn't want to meet all the financial demands of some players.

Yes, it's kinda disappointment but media has pointed out the the Warriors have been the adjustment already when they got Donte Divincenzo a good player at a steal price. So no worries for the Warriors and good for Payton to find a new home with a good salary. The Warriors will start all over again, at least they gave Looney a good deal, and then they have their sophomores to replace those who have move out, Kuminga, Moody and Bazemore. Still a good and championship caliber team eventhough GPII and Porter and JTA has left them.

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Gary has reason to be happy because the Blazers signed him to a three-year contract worth $28 million. If I'm not mistaken, that's the biggest contract of his career. He definitely deserved it, and I hope he will progress more with his new team. As for the Warriors, they should have retained the current championship roster, but it looks like the Warriors' management doesn't want to meet all the financial demands of some players.

They can't acquire retaining those role players as the amount of their salaries after winning the title.

I'm good with parting ways as GP2 can impact teams that he will be moving. It's good to see him now helping Dame as the
guy needs someone who can give him the backup support when doing his job.

Let's see how things will turn with the Blazers and how GP2 will continue the boost he always provides way back with the
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July 10, 2022, 05:27:33 AM
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So it seems that Brooklyn Nets wanted to settle KD's trade demand first before focusing on Irving. That would leave a lot of wasted idle time for the Lakers since there is no team that is interested or qualified to deal with Russell Westbrook. Maybe Brooklyn is spending all its efforts to retain KD, asking him the type of players needed in exchange of Irving. This make sense though. If Brooklyn will end up keeping KD, they surely do not need the more expensive and useless Westbrook in their team then. 

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July 10, 2022, 06:50:32 AM
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There are still rumours about Lakers to trade Kyrie Irving with Russell Westbrook now. This rumours are making me really excited already. Because Westbrook's performance in the latest season was horrible. Lebron was so alone about carrying the team to victories and they had a terrible season. This must come to an end for them. This trade can make a really huge change for this team. Irving and Lebron both would be the leaders of the team and Irving is unbelievably good when it comes to scoring too.

Honestly, fans are tired of Westbrook playing with the Lakers, and all we gonna expect if he ever stays in the Lakers this upcoming season is the same as the last season where they struggled so much to keep their records to compete in the playoff tree. Now that if the rumor is true, I have more trust in Irving playing with Lebron than Westbrook because they already proved they can be fit together and when both are healthy, they can win championships.

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July 10, 2022, 08:38:20 AM
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Having a franchise star like KD is one of the best thing to happen in each team inside the league,

I don’t know about that. He quit on Oklahoma City. He wasn’t happy in Golden State. He destroyed a budding Nets franchise. I don’t think any of his former teammates consider him a friend. He’s one of the best basketball players still, sure. I think a lot of regrets come from previous teams. Certainly someone like Tim Duncan or Steph Curry’s loyalty is what owners are hoping they get when they shell out big bucks for stars.
Damn true. I was eyeing for the 2018-2019 Brooklyn Nets before Kyrie, KD, and Harden happened. The roster before was composed of Dinwiddie, Allen, Harris, LeVert, and Russell. A team with young competitive stars. If there will be a trade, I'd just kick Russell for 1 star and a veteran to deal with experience.
Kevin Durant could fill both that spot but they decided to pursue not just two but three stars and all the young roleplayer scattered at different teams.
Luckily, that did them good. Dinwiddie is now a good wingman for Doncic proven during the playoffs to WCF and Allen with a 5-year 100 million deal with the Cavs.
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Having a franchise star like KD is one of the best thing to happen in each team inside the league,

I don’t know about that. He quit on Oklahoma City. He wasn’t happy in Golden State. He destroyed a budding Nets franchise. I don’t think any of his former teammates consider him a friend. He’s one of the best basketball players still, sure. I think a lot of regrets come from previous teams. Certainly someone like Tim Duncan or Steph Curry’s loyalty is what owners are hoping they get when they shell out big bucks for stars.
Damn true. I was eyeing for the 2018-2019 Brooklyn Nets before Kyrie, KD, and Harden happened. The roster before was composed of Dinwiddie, Allen, Harris, LeVert, and Russell. A team with young competitive stars. If there will be a trade, I'd just kick Russell for 1 star and a veteran to deal with experience.
Kevin Durant could fill both that spot but they decided to pursue not just two but three stars and all the young roleplayer scattered at different teams.
Luckily, that did them good. Dinwiddie is now a good wingman for Doncic proven during the playoffs to WCF and Allen with a 5-year 100 million deal with the Cavs.
That's correct, they gave up a lot of players just to accommodate the big 3, and it turns out not all of them were healthy in the season they played together. Net's cannot change what happened, they made a mistake for being too ambitious, they want to instantly turn their team into a championship team, and now they are paying for the consequences. 

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I think it's not just Durant that has been affected by the Warriors winning, obviously though he is the first one to be impacted. The whole NBA has to evolved again, imagine former players of Warriors getting good pay after just one year, maybe teams know they have the experience already. West teams like the Wolves as well, maybe thinking of getting big could offset the Warriors by getting Rudy Gobert. And I mean everyone is upgrading their roster now because the Warriors has raised the bar again, winning their 4th and definitely wanting to stop them to get their fifth. So that is the "Warriors effect".

Because of Kevin Durant and the Golden State Warrior's rich history, I think Durant now is scratching his head on why he left the Golden State Warriors chasing his dream to have a championship ring, but I guess he leaves the Golden State Warriors before because he wants to be the main player, and I think many teams are thinking of enhancing their defense and being ready for a team like the Golden State Warriors, I think they are preparing for the Warriors other rookies that have a possibility to explode like Jordan Poole, and right now Jordan Poole can still improve and we can surely see it on the next season,

Moses Moody.
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Moody produced 34 points against the Knicks and looked solid at both ends. This coming after a season of relatively limited action: like Jonathan Kuminga, once the 2022 playoffs began, he was a victim of a numbers crunch as the Warriors leaned more toward Otto Porter Jr. and Gary Payton II during their championship run.
Could be the new partner of Jordan Poole on bench production. He was not given many minutes but we saw him contribute many time especially in the outside range. They may push him to work harder so that spot of Otto Porter and Gary Payton II will be given to him.
This is nice, another name who may possibly be talked about next season. Just run the play, do it right, and everything will fall at the right spot.

I really love how the Rookie players of the Golden State Warriors are really improving so much, and not only Moses Moody but I think they are also focusing on Jonathan Kuminga to have his spotlight as well, for me Jonathan Kuminga's play style is like Ja Morant, this is just my opinion, or could be close to that, but in a more defensive way, and I think it can reflect that next season, now Moses Moody could surely be the next to take the position of both Otto Porter and Gary Payton II they will need their defensive strength up, for the next season,



Agreed but Nets hold the cards here.  Durant is signed for 4 years they can screw him and send him to a crap franchise for a boat load of picks.  Nothing really Durant can do.  If I were the Nets I'd consider sending to a small aren't team who would give tons of picks and young ayers in return because they can never sign someone like Durant.  That's just business too.

I really think they can do that but does that team have the financial capability on trading Durant, for me if Durant wants to be traded then they need to Trade him on the team tis hat likely be needing him, well who is the team that may don't really need Kevin Durant, in my opinion, there are tons of possibility what may be the problem on teams not wanting Kevin Durant, but here are the requirements for a team that wants a Kevin Durant,

  • Can't have two or more Superstars on the team
- Because Kevin Durant wants to be the main guy on the team I think this should be considered

  • Gets Credit for the Title
- Because he wants to be the main man on the team he surely wants credit for it,

  • Enough Asset to trade for Durant
- That team has the financial capability to keep Durant, even though the whole championship is blown up

  • Still Complete for the title
- This is for a sure shot to the championship because a championship win is not enough to win by a one-man only he still needs a viable teammate to do it,


Sorry if this is like full sarcasm for Kevin Durant, I think the Brooklyn Nets have given Durant what he truly needs, given him the spotlight, paid him so much, and paying his Bill in his recovery for his Injury, but still he is giving this crap again in living,
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July 10, 2022, 01:38:22 PM
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Sorry if this is like full sarcasm for Kevin Durant, I think the Brooklyn Nets have given Durant what he truly needs, given him the spotlight, paid him so much, and paying his Bill in his recovery for his Injury, but still he is giving this crap again in living,

Durant forget that 1 season he got paid while he still recovering, he should not ask to be traded and prove to the Nets that they made the right decision on signing him. Injury is really a big hindrance, that's why other teams does not see Durant is still the same Durant who won championships with the Warriors, I guess he will end up staying with the Nets as Nets needs to ensure they'll get the value in the trade.

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July 10, 2022, 03:26:37 PM
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Sorry if this is like full sarcasm for Kevin Durant, I think the Brooklyn Nets have given Durant what he truly needs, given him the spotlight, paid him so much, and paying his Bill in his recovery for his Injury, but still he is giving this crap again in living,

Durant forget that 1 season he got paid while he still recovering, he should not ask to be traded and prove to the Nets that they made the right decision on signing him. Injury is really a big hindrance, that's why other teams does not see Durant is still the same Durant who won championships with the Warriors, I guess he will end up staying with the Nets as Nets needs to ensure they'll get the value in the trade.
They don't see him worthy to be like how he was treated before, he's more prone to injuries and that's why where it's been seen and declined by most of the teams where the Nets offered him.

I don't know if the thing I've read about Golden State Warriors is for real that they're the ones who are interested in taking back Durant and they're gonna give away Poole and Wiggins. As I've said, I don't know if that article I've seen is real or just another meme.

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July 10, 2022, 05:19:09 PM
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Sorry if this is like full sarcasm for Kevin Durant, I think the Brooklyn Nets have given Durant what he truly needs, given him the spotlight, paid him so much, and paying his Bill in his recovery for his Injury, but still he is giving this crap again in living,

Durant forget that 1 season he got paid while he still recovering, he should not ask to be traded and prove to the Nets that they made the right decision on signing him. Injury is really a big hindrance, that's why other teams does not see Durant is still the same Durant who won championships with the Warriors, I guess he will end up staying with the Nets as Nets needs to ensure they'll get the value in the trade.
That's all on the Nets. Durant has nothing to do with that. They took the risk and the Brooklyn people even accepted it. Just being there is a boost to their sales, he doesn't even need to play.
Now he wants a trade. Still doesn't matter. They made money out of him and the same with Kevin Durant. He made money while resting while the fans are expecting a lot for his comeback.
This is how NBA is right now, entertainment and business first. Being affected by what happens next is just foolish. We know soon he will be doing this and it is now.

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But regardless, since Kevin Durant already express his interest to be traded, there's no way the Nets should keep him on the roster next season. The motivation and determination are already not there to play for the team in long term. Unfortunate to see that kind of relationship. When Durant signed a 4-year extension last year, the whole Brooklyn Nets is so happy that there will be more seasons that Durant will stay on them and expected to build a legacy on that team. It was all mentioned in the media interview and now looked at what happened.

The Brooklyn Nets thought that they made the right decision and they were happy because a 4-year extension is quite a long time but unfortunately, there are certain things why KD requested a trade and things had change since the 2021-2022 season began. At first, the team was dominating in ECF but eventually, the big three became a big disaster.

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July 10, 2022, 06:47:50 PM
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But regardless, since Kevin Durant already express his interest to be traded, there's no way the Nets should keep him on the roster next season. The motivation and determination are already not there to play for the team in long term. Unfortunate to see that kind of relationship. When Durant signed a 4-year extension last year, the whole Brooklyn Nets is so happy that there will be more seasons that Durant will stay on them and expected to build a legacy on that team. It was all mentioned in the media interview and now looked at what happened.

The Brooklyn Nets thought that they made the right decision and they were happy because a 4-year extension is quite a long time but unfortunately, there are certain things why KD requested a trade and things had change since the 2021-2022 season began. At first, the team was dominating in ECF but eventually, the big three became a big disaster.

Yeah. Boston crashing them in to pulp makes Durant feel again the OKC chills all over again which he can’t do anything despite his effort to carry his teammates. Durant is still in prime but many teams already developed a roster that composed of player that can rival his caliber. He knew that he can’t do anything when he is with Nets and I’m sure KD is not allowing to end his career to the team that has no future with him.

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July 10, 2022, 08:43:54 PM
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Nets may or may not given Durant what he wants, but then all went wrong. First they were expecting Harden deal to be the game changer and make them the loved one, which didn't pan out and Harden was traded away. Then the whole Irving and vaccine deal happened and he didn't play much, then came back very late and failed on playoffs together.

And now Irving is known to be not wanted, took a while to sign back, and now looking to be traded. Durant was given what he wanted, and failed, and they took what he wanted back from him. This is why I highly doubt that it would be reasonable to expect him to stay as well. He would be probably sent to a team that would try to do the same.
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They should just invest in younger stars that could be a potential asset to the team in the few years to come while LeBron James is there to teach the younger generations because 2 to 3 years from now, LBJ will eventually retire and leave the team.

They already did. Count the seasons where they surround Kobe with young stars until retirement. They let these young guys control the Lakers after Kobe's retirement and still what happened? Totally a failed investment and guess what, they only made the playoffs when Lebron James came to them.

Because that's what happened, the Lakers shift strategy by involving big names on their roster as the young lineup didn't work for several seasons.

The Lakers are not building a super team but if those big names show interest in playing with the team, why should they hesitate to work on that?

So should they stop on investing on young assets that could potentially make the team dangerous in the years to come? Of course, that's why it's called investment because it's not a guarantee that they would bloom and will make the LA Lakers a heavy team. That is also why I've said that they should invest now while LBJ is still in there team to guide and teach the new generations.

It's already proven that a bunch of post-prime players aren't going to make it, hype will just surround them at the start but eventually it will be a big mistake. 1 or 2 star players will suffice and others will be a role/support player.

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They should just invest in younger stars that could be a potential asset to the team in the few years to come while LeBron James is there to teach the younger generations because 2 to 3 years from now, LBJ will eventually retire and leave the team.

They already did. Count the seasons where they surround Kobe with young stars until retirement. They let these young guys control the Lakers after Kobe's retirement and still what happened? Totally a failed investment and guess what, they only made the playoffs when Lebron James came to them.

Because that's what happened, the Lakers shift strategy by involving big names on their roster as the young lineup didn't work for several seasons.

The Lakers are not building a super team but if those big names show interest in playing with the team, why should they hesitate to work on that?

So should they stop on investing on young assets that could potentially make the team dangerous in the years to come? Of course, that's why it's called investment because it's not a guarantee that they would bloom and will make the LA Lakers a heavy team. That is also why I've said that they should invest now while LBJ is still in there team to guide and teach the new generations.

It's already proven that a bunch of post-prime players aren't going to make it, hype will just surround them at the start but eventually it will be a big mistake. 1 or 2 star players will suffice and others will be a role/support player.

Did I say they should stop? They just need to balance everything and not focus too much on getting young stars.

Since you mentioned "stars", it's hard to get a young stars as the majority of those are currently in-contract. They will really end up getting post-prime players or literally a young player but not on the all-star or superstars caliber yet.

Good role players are much better to pick compared to young stars.

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They should just invest in younger stars that could be a potential asset to the team in the few years to come while LeBron James is there to teach the younger generations because 2 to 3 years from now, LBJ will eventually retire and leave the team.

They already did. Count the seasons where they surround Kobe with young stars until retirement. They let these young guys control the Lakers after Kobe's retirement and still what happened? Totally a failed investment and guess what, they only made the playoffs when Lebron James came to them.

Because that's what happened, the Lakers shift strategy by involving big names on their roster as the young lineup didn't work for several seasons.

The Lakers are not building a super team but if those big names show interest in playing with the team, why should they hesitate to work on that?

So should they stop on investing on young assets that could potentially make the team dangerous in the years to come? Of course, that's why it's called investment because it's not a guarantee that they would bloom and will make the LA Lakers a heavy team. That is also why I've said that they should invest now while LBJ is still in there team to guide and teach the new generations.

It's already proven that a bunch of post-prime players aren't going to make it, hype will just surround them at the start but eventually it will be a big mistake. 1 or 2 star players will suffice and others will be a role/support player.

Did I say they should stop? They just need to balance everything and not focus too much on getting young stars.

Since you mentioned "stars", it's hard to get a young stars as the majority of those are currently in-contract. They will really end up getting post-prime players or literally a young player but not on the all-star or superstars caliber yet.

Good role players are much better to pick compared to young stars.

Probably yes, those young stars are already in a contract and having them needs a bigger investment.

Unlike with role players who can play and jibe with LBJ and AD, it's still a good pick, especially if they can have
someone who can give good minutes of rest for these two stars.

Lakers are still a good competitor. They just need to have a healthy core and numbers of role players who
can play alongside with the rest of the team is the focus on this upcoming season.
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Sorry if this is like full sarcasm for Kevin Durant, I think the Brooklyn Nets have given Durant what he truly needs, given him the spotlight, paid him so much, and paying his Bill in his recovery for his Injury, but still he is giving this crap again in living,

Durant forget that 1 season he got paid while he still recovering, he should not ask to be traded and prove to the Nets that they made the right decision on signing him. Injury is really a big hindrance, that's why other teams does not see Durant is still the same Durant who won championships with the Warriors, I guess he will end up staying with the Nets as Nets needs to ensure they'll get the value in the trade.

Well, I thought that Kevin Durant will be leaving the Brooklyn Nets anymore, and so the rumors are true, and with this maybe Kyrie Irving will be the one left on the Nets, It is crazy how Kevin Durant isn't satisfied on every team he is on, and right now he doesn't want to settle again with the Brooklyn Nets, but for me, if there is no further announcement this will still remain a rumor to me, 2016 was his last years on the Oklahoma Thunders, while 2019 was the last years on the Golden State Warriors while in the Brooklyn Nets it could be 2022, but still, we just need to calm down for a moment there is no given announce that he will really be traded to the other teams,


They don't see him worthy to be like how he was treated before, he's more prone to injuries and that's why where it's been seen and declined by most of the teams where the Nets offered him.

I don't know if the thing I've read about Golden State Warriors is for real that they're the ones who are interested in taking back Durant and they're gonna give away Poole and Wiggins. As I've said, I don't know if that article I've seen is real or just another meme.

Well, a lot of players that are on age 30 plus are really prone to injuries, so they need to put extra care on them, well we can not blame players that get injuries because they really don't want something like that to happen, so if their going to get a injury prone Kevin Durant they better be ready for the injuries,

Well, it seems that we are reading a different article, I have seen an article of Teams that are illegible to get Durant if traded, and not really want, in an article that I have seen they don't need Kevin Durant anymore, pretty much they got no used for him,

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There are still rumours about Lakers to trade Kyrie Irving with Russell Westbrook now. This rumours are making me really excited already. Because Westbrook's performance in the latest season was horrible. Lebron was so alone about carrying the team to victories and they had a terrible season. This must come to an end for them. This trade can make a really huge change for this team. Irving and Lebron both would be the leaders of the team and Irving is unbelievably good when it comes to scoring too.

Honestly, fans are tired of Westbrook playing with the Lakers, and all we gonna expect if he ever stays in the Lakers this upcoming season is the same as the last season where they struggled so much to keep their records to compete in the playoff tree. Now that if the rumor is true, I have more trust in Irving playing with Lebron than Westbrook because they already proved they can be fit together and when both are healthy, they can win championships.

Not if Kyrie keeps on being unstable. He is really talented but it is not the problem with him. He is very unpredictable and constantly making getting involved in dramas that affects the team negatively. I do not think Lebron needs that on the last stretch of his career. He is not the prime Lebron that can still carry a team when his co-stars is out. He needs someone that will be constantly on the floor playing top basketball.
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