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November 30, 2022, 03:01:14 PM
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Tough loss again for the Lakers. Leads 17 points at one point of the game and blew it up because of the lack of defense outside the paint, when it's clearly the Pacers are red hot in the 3s. Bryant didn't have enough minutes while the Pacers are betting them with the rebounds. Last but not the least, the Lakers biggest problem this season is LeBron and Ham.
LeBron tends to die down his teammate's momentum, when he's holding the ball his teammates will stop moving, and then they will forced to a low percentage shot.

Sure this loss is not really good for the Lakers because they were way up ahead by double digits but that's just how it goes. They badly needed that win to further push their rank forward to be able to get close in the playoff tree but this is not the last chance and they have plenty of time to work for securing the win next time when they are gone ahead like this one. I hope they were able to learn their miscalculations today so that they won't make the same mistakes again and the rumors right now are good for them because it's saying that,
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Yeah, it was really a hard pill to swallow lost for the Lakers, maybe they are not lucky and didn't play defense but this is the Lakers that he have known last year and part of it shows this year until Davis took over and they have a good successive wins.

But it seems they are back to their old self and just a simple slip of concentration cause this huge game. I consider this huge game because they are trying to built a momentum run with Lebron back on their line up.


The comment above was right, Lakers problem is when LeBron try to take over and hold the ball, his teammates are all waiting for him to call the play and will end up throwing a force shot, unlike when he's not around, all the guards are aggressive, and they are finding an open man to take the shots.

Not sure how coach Ham will be managed and see this, but like what you said, it is the same Lakers last year when LeBron is inside.

They need more good adjustments to fix this problem and they need to play as one with more confidence and not to look for LeBron or AD
to orchestrate the offense.

I have no hate on Lebron but he should really go instead of giving suggestions to the management that they should get this and that because he is the one who is destroying the team, the Lakers doesn't need him anymore. Even coach Phil Jackson said that they should let him go if they still want to reach far this season and in the upcoming seasons, they should trade him while he still have got value because time will past by, he won't what he is today anymore.

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In the matches played last night, the surprise result was played between Dallas and Holden state and Dallas defeated Golden State 116-113 at home. At Golden State, Klay Thompson is back to score. In the game played the other day, the Los Angeles Lakers lost 1 point to Indiana at home. The stars of the Los Angeles Lakers gave the necessary contribution as a score, but they could not prevent the defeat. The Boston Celtics, on the other hand, are progressing in form.
It is not that much shocking considering Dallas has been great when Luka gets some help, and Luka has been playing at an MVP level as well, dude is young but he is a superstar for sure, whereas Warriors lack the defence they were so famously known for, and that causes them to lose some games, they might be the latest champions but this year hasn't been dominant at all.

I guess that Warriors would be in playoffs and would still be a title contender, but not as great as they used to be, there is a doubt over them and that matters. At the very least, I know I wagered on Dallas to win and that's a good thing, not really Dallas to win but basically "warriors not winning by 6 points" because of handicap and I won Cheesy.

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November 30, 2022, 05:44:13 PM
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The comment above was right, Lakers problem is when LeBron try to take over and hold the ball, his teammates are all waiting for him to call the play and will end up throwing a force shot, unlike when he's not around, all the guards are aggressive, and they are finding an open man to take the shots.

Why it became a problem when in the first place, that was Lebron's way of playing? The whole team just become sucks at the end and it's not right to blame their loss on one player. That was a 17-point lead and if you are talking about Lebron's way of holding the ball then that's the offense side. The problem with why they lost against the Pacers and blew that lead is a lack of defense while at the same time, the Pacers are really draining those shots even with a proper defense by the Lakers.

That was a tough loss and was supposed to be 3rd winning streak for the Lakers.

The Pacers just give their best and they should be the topic here, not the Lakers.

Yes, he is good at the offensive side but the question is, does the team really need his offense in-exchange to be so bad at defense? The team is also doing everything they can, but it seems that Lebron is just a stumbling block that gives them struggles to properly do their posts. At the Pacer's game, I bet you saw that there were so many times that Lebron could've block that shot or at least give them struggles when they are trying to shoot the ball but no, he is already old to be aggressive again. Just look at them when Lebron's not around, they can move a lot and do a lot because they are not following his lead and wait for his actions.

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November 30, 2022, 07:41:54 PM
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The comment above was right, Lakers problem is when LeBron try to take over and hold the ball, his teammates are all waiting for him to call the play and will end up throwing a force shot, unlike when he's not around, all the guards are aggressive, and they are finding an open man to take the shots.

Why it became a problem when in the first place, that was Lebron's way of playing? The whole team just become sucks at the end and it's not right to blame their loss on one player. That was a 17-point lead and if you are talking about Lebron's way of holding the ball then that's the offense side. The problem with why they lost against the Pacers and blew that lead is a lack of defense while at the same time, the Pacers are really draining those shots even with a proper defense by the Lakers.

That was a tough loss and was supposed to be 3rd winning streak for the Lakers.

The Pacers just give their best and they should be the topic here, not the Lakers.

Yes, he is good at the offensive side but the question is, does the team really need his offense in-exchange to be so bad at defense? The team is also doing everything they can, but it seems that Lebron is just a stumbling block that gives them struggles to properly do their posts. At the Pacer's game, I bet you saw that there were so many times that Lebron could've block that shot or at least give them struggles when they are trying to shoot the ball but no, he is already old to be aggressive again. Just look at them when Lebron's not around, they can move a lot and do a lot because they are not following his lead and wait for his actions.

Well, I'm ready to move forward, that's already a loss for them and no need to dwell with that, they need to work more and find the perfect combination that can work with LeBron, nothing to say since he still the main alpha on the team.

It's more on the players who will surround him and how they will do their role while playing alongside with LeBron.

Another adjustment after that loss and they will be good to go.
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November 30, 2022, 07:49:25 PM
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Man what is going on with my Chicago Bulls. Has anyone else been paying any attention to them lately , or I should say for this entire season so far.  More than ever we need Ball badly. Ayo and Patrick Williams are our two biggest young players that we really need to see more out of them.

Let’s hope they can start to turn things aground.

Their record is not that ugly mate, it's still quite decent for me but yes, their performance now is somehow different compared to what they did last season when they are bullying the other teams in the league. I'm thinking that the competition in the East Conference lately is quite tough, I mean, look at the their statistics. They aren't that far away from the guys who are ranked from 6th to 10th in the East. Let's just give them some time.
Yes, it's the combination of factors,

a. Teams in the East as well upgraded their roster so it's hard to get a win if you are missing one key players
b. They are inconsistent with Ayo and White, they need to get this two to be really contributing day in day out
c. Not saying that they need to trade someone, but seems to be the chemistry is no longer like last year

Still a lot of games, but it's very competitive in the East, teams like Celtics and the Bucks (which they beat recently) and the Sixers will always be there to content for the top spot and Bulls need a lot from their players to respond. Not just to have everything on DeRozan as he can't do it.

Yeah you both make some good points, but even still we were missing a good amount of players throughout the year last year but still had a sizable amount more of success to start the season.  I know starting the season doesn't mean much, and it's all about how you finish, but it would be nice to get off to a good start that way if you falter throughout the year , you have some cushioning.

But yeah, no Ball no chance, sadly.

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I feel like there is this "system" teams that can't do without certain players even if they are not amazing players. People get shocked about those kinds of results every year, or whenever it happens. We have seen soo many teams in the past as well where it wasn't a superstar missing, just a "good" player but that player was such a huge part of the system they had, so when he was gone, even though maybe someone as good as him replaced him, the system still crumbles and that causes losses. That is what Bulls are having now, they are not suddenly terrible, but they are missing an important piece.

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November 30, 2022, 09:18:36 PM
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I feel like there is this "system" teams that can't do without certain players even if they are not amazing players. People get shocked about those kinds of results every year, or whenever it happens. We have seen soo many teams in the past as well where it wasn't a superstar missing, just a "good" player but that player was such a huge part of the system they had, so when he was gone, even though maybe someone as good as him replaced him, the system still crumbles and that causes losses. That is what Bulls are having now, they are not suddenly terrible, but they are missing an important piece.

Systems are great, some of the most famous are Phil Jackson's triangle offense or coach pops system.  They look great when you have people like kobe or Tim Duncan's in "that system" look at how they fare when you have sub par players, those genius coaches don't look so genius.  I'm all for coaching makes a difference but first and foremost you need quality on the court otherwise systems are worthless

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November 30, 2022, 09:41:50 PM
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Big 4th quarter by the Clippers, they beat the home team (Blazers) with their run in the 4th quarter, 36-17, what a run. Now, it seemed like the number 1 and 2 team before in the West which are the Jazz and Blazers are struggling, they can't maintain their ranking as they are losing some games, especially the Jazz who are in a losing streak.
Yeah, looks like it. The Jazz was getting hot when it started but now they are losing, maybe they aren't that good but we can't say for sure if they will continue this streak. I think Jazz has a good players now on their rotation but I think they started losing when Conley wasn't on their starting lineup, that's what I thought.
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I have no hate on Lebron but he should really go instead of giving suggestions to the management that they should get this and that because he is the one who is destroying the team, the Lakers doesn't need him anymore. Even coach Phil Jackson said that they should let him go if they still want to reach far this season and in the upcoming seasons, they should trade him while he still have got value because time will past by, he won't what he is today anymore.

Well, they cannot trade Lebron just yet, he recently signed an extension worth millions with the Lakers and I think the Lakers plan to get their return as from that extension as much as possible. As pointed out before, Lebron's value with the Lakers is past beyond what he can give in the court. He is an attraction to NBA and the Lakers get a lot of money from him if they play in their homecourt. Last year, even though they did not make it to the playoffs, they still netted a lot of income, thanks to the sale Lebron generated for them. So, though they are not winning, he is still profitable to the Lakers organization.

Big 4th quarter by the Clippers, they beat the home team (Blazers) with their run in the 4th quarter, 36-17, what a run. Now, it seemed like the number 1 and 2 team before in the West which are the Jazz and Blazers are struggling, they can't maintain their ranking as they are losing some games, especially the Jazz who are in a losing streak.
Yeah, looks like it. The Jazz was getting hot when it started but now they are losing, maybe they aren't that good but we can't say for sure if they will continue this streak. I think Jazz has a good players now on their rotation but I think they started losing when Conley wasn't on their starting lineup, that's what I thought.

They are on a rebuilding process; they do not have much of a star that the other teams have and yet they are winning. If they are hit by injury, their system will fail since they do not have much stars to begin with. But you have to give them credit for having a system that works against star-filled teams. They bring back the good old days of basketball where the game is played as a team and not relying on superstars iso gaming or hero ball. They are fun to watch. If this system is sustained, they will be very strong once their roster is complete with stars/superstars that will work with the system they have.
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December 01, 2022, 01:15:28 AM
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I feel like there is this "system" teams that can't do without certain players even if they are not amazing players. People get shocked about those kinds of results every year, or whenever it happens. We have seen soo many teams in the past as well where it wasn't a superstar missing, just a "good" player but that player was such a huge part of the system they had, so when he was gone, even though maybe someone as good as him replaced him, the system still crumbles and that causes losses. That is what Bulls are having now, they are not suddenly terrible, but they are missing an important piece.
Yeah, that might be the best way to put it.
Lonzo Ball especially can bring out the best in DeRozan and LaVine by using a fast-paced type of game. When he was around they never stop running, most of their plays are transitions.
9 wins of 20, it's not that bad yet when we consider how close the East standing is.
The 6th seed Toronto Raptors only have 11 wins out of 20.

Boston Celtics in their 4th winning streak, they may add one more against the Miami Heat. Jayson Tatum is starting hot again, 20 points already in 12 minutes. Wow.

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The Lakers got themselves a nice win over the Damian Lillard-less Portland Trailblazers. LeBron James and Anthony Davis both had big nights.

The Cleveland Cavs got another win over 76ers. They beat them by 28 and have the 5th best record in the league now. Biggest surprise of the season for sure. I thought they’d be tanking for the draft.

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Tomorrow 13 games. Trail Blazers will play again and now it's versus the LA Lakers. High chance the Lakers will get the W here in a blowout game.

That is a lot of games again. I like it when there are lots of game, plenty of games to bet on.

The Lakers will need that win against Portland tomorrow because after that they will be on the road against 500 teams in the east. If they do not win it, they will be on a long losing streak again. I think their next 5 games are against 500 teams.


The next 10 games for the Lakers would be a tough one as they will once again face those teams above .500 just like how they started the season. Somehow, I've seen a better improvements and a good bounce back tonight against the Blazers. I thought they're gonna blow out another huge lead again.


Tough loss again for the Lakers. Leads 17 points at one point of the game and blew it up because of the lack of defense outside the paint, when it's clearly the Pacers are red hot in the 3s. Bryant didn't have enough minutes while the Pacers are betting them with the rebounds. Last but not the least, the Lakers biggest problem this season is LeBron and Ham.
LeBron tends to die down his teammate's momentum, when he's holding the ball his teammates will stop moving, and then they will forced to a low percentage shot.

The Lakers have won 2 of 3 games since LeBron came back. So I don't think he's the biggest problem for his teammates and the team as a whole. By the way, he was on the court for 36 minutes in the last game, and that didn't stop Davis from scoring 25 points and Westbrook from scoring 24 points. Of course, the other players were less productive, and their minutes might have been reduced because of LeBron. However, proper rotation of players is primarily the responsibility of the head coach, and that's really a problem for the Lakers because Ham doesn't have enough experience yet.

The problem is when Lebron is inside the court and he tried to control the ball, his teammates become idle

Most of the time yeah he is, but once he's played well and hits a high percentage shot, it's not gonna be a problem as the defense will focus on him and leave his teammate wide open, which where he's also good at - finding an open man. Another problem would be, if his teammates can't convert the assist to a score. I can really see a difference between a young prime LeBron and the current LeBron. Though I would not say he's out of his prime currently, but will eventually slow down gradually.

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December 01, 2022, 07:46:49 AM
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Too bad news and sad for Matt Ryan, he's going to be waived on December 15 to open a spot for another Lakers player to get in.
Source: Lakers News: Matt Ryan Being Waived To Open Up Roster Spot Ahead Of Dec. 15
It wasn't that long since he's been part of the Lakers, right? And now, he's being the option to be waived so that another one comes in that might take them to have better days. I don't like this decision on them.

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December 01, 2022, 08:36:33 AM
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The Lakers got themselves a nice win over the Damian Lillard-less Portland Trailblazers. LeBron James and Anthony Davis both had big nights.

The Cleveland Cavs got another win over 76ers. They beat them by 28 and have the 5th best record in the league now. Biggest surprise of the season for sure. I thought they’d be tanking for the draft.

They cannot do that unless they don't have the all-stars in their team playing this season because it will be obvious if they gonna do it that way. They can still catch up when they are winning like this because the other teams that were winning in the first phase of the season, are now losing and giving every low-rank team to catch up and have their chance to be in the playoff. If the Lakers can still win more games than lose the remaining games of the season, probably they can be in the top 5 or 6 in the NBA playoff tree.

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Yes, I'm also expecting that this time around they will make sure that they are more competent and much more ready than what they had last season. I know that they aren't expecting like that to happen last season that they will participate in the Finals but with the dedication they had, they managed to climb the ladder and almost defeated the scorching Warriors. Look at them now, the Celtics leads the whole league and not just the conference, they got the most games won and least games lost.

If ever the Warriors and the Celtics will have a match-up in the Finals again, I bet the Warriors will fail this time because they almost got no defensive players left while the Celtics got the same roster and much more experienced this time around.

Well like in the previous Season the Golden State Warriors don't need to be in the top standing they just need to get in the playoffs, and showcase what they really can do, for me I still have hope for the Golden State Warriors in pretty much making it even the finals, right now James Wiseman is on the Santa Cruz Warriors the G league, this is to ready him in coming back to the Golden State Warriors again, and to hone his skill in the G League, While Jonathan Kuminga is rising up to the occasion and if this continues this 19 years old will likely become a great asset for the Warriors, in becoming a mini Giannis Antetokounmpo, for the team, that frequently shooting outside, if this continues and Steve Kerr would likely let him play a couple of minutes I think that he will show most of his potential inside the court, And I am sure excited for this Warriors team than the last season,


Well, I'm ready to move forward, that's already a loss for them and no need to dwell with that, they need to work more and find the perfect combination that can work with LeBron, nothing to say since he still the main alpha on the team.

It's more on the players who will surround him and how they will do their role while playing alongside with LeBron.

Another adjustment after that loss and they will be good to go.

When Lebron James can not play and have an injury, many in the Lakers have to stand up in their game Anthony Davis has a great time dealing with the defense and offense inside while Russell Westbrick is showing what he can still do, while I have seen Austin Reaves making progress for the team, if this continues I think Lebron James would like to have companions to rely on because right now I really think Lebron James doesn't care anymore, maybe he is more focus on getting that dumb record to be break than to win the game, for me pretty much with or without Lebron Lakers have now know their chemistry,

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When Lebron James can not play and have an injury, many in the Lakers have to stand up in their game Anthony Davis has a great time dealing with the defense and offense inside while Russell Westbrick is showing what he can still do, while I have seen Austin Reaves making progress for the team, if this continues I think Lebron James would like to have companions to rely on because right now I really think Lebron James doesn't care anymore, maybe he is more focus on getting that dumb record to be break than to win the game, for me pretty much with or without Lebron Lakers have now know their chemistry,



They were criticized hard, it's just normal to see them playing hard to win to prove that they are not a bad team. It's okay if they will not meet our expectations but at least they will be a competitive team this season. With or without Lebron, I think hey are very competitive, as long as they have Davis, Lakers is going to be a tough opponent.

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December 01, 2022, 11:44:22 AM
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When Lebron James can not play and have an injury, many in the Lakers have to stand up in their game Anthony Davis has a great time dealing with the defense and offense inside while Russell Westbrick is showing what he can still do, while I have seen Austin Reaves making progress for the team, if this continues I think Lebron James would like to have companions to rely on because right now I really think Lebron James doesn't care anymore, maybe he is more focus on getting that dumb record to be break than to win the game, for me pretty much with or without Lebron Lakers have now know their chemistry,



They were criticized hard, it's just normal to see them playing hard to win to prove that they are not a bad team. It's okay if they will not meet our expectations but at least they will be a competitive team this season. With or without Lebron, I think hey are very competitive, as long as they have Davis, Lakers is going to be a tough opponent.

Yes and it seems that Lebron is responding to the criticism and now that they have notch a win, for sure it will rub on those individuals. But at least they have proven that they can win against a good team in Portland.

Like to commend Austin Reeves as well, this kid is really turning something specially and he can fit with this veterans and experience teams. And don't forget about Thomas Bryant, 14 points in 19 minutes. That's already a big plus for the Lakers.

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Too bad news and sad for Matt Ryan, he's going to be waived on December 15 to open a spot for another Lakers player to get in.
Source: Lakers News: Matt Ryan Being Waived To Open Up Roster Spot Ahead Of Dec. 15
It wasn't that long since he's been part of the Lakers, right? And now, he's being the option to be waived so that another one comes in that might take them to have better days. I don't like this decision on them.
He's a career 37.1% from 3PT line and in the current era where more people are shooting threes, that's a high percentage IMO.
Too bad that he doesn't been given enough minutes. He is only given 10.8 minutes per game on average and that's too low.

I thought that his buzzer beater three against the Pelicans will be his breakthrough and he will be given more minutes, but I guess I'm wrong. I just hope that another team will give him maybe a short-term contract just to try. He's a decent to good three-point shooter so teams who's focusing on threes more might get him... or not. For the Lakers, I just hope that they will get better player to replace him, or they will receive more criticisms aside from the ones that are facing right now.

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December 01, 2022, 11:57:47 AM
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Too bad news and sad for Matt Ryan, he's going to be waived on December 15 to open a spot for another Lakers player to get in.
Source: Lakers News: Matt Ryan Being Waived To Open Up Roster Spot Ahead Of Dec. 15
It wasn't that long since he's been part of the Lakers, right? And now, he's being the option to be waived so that another one comes in that might take them to have better days. I don't like this decision on them.
He's a career 37.1% from 3PT line and in the current era where more people are shooting threes, that's a high percentage IMO.
Too bad that he doesn't been given enough minutes. He is only given 10.8 minutes per game on average and that's too low.

I thought that his buzzer beater three against the Pelicans will be his breakthrough and he will be given more minutes, but I guess I'm wrong. I just hope that another team will give him maybe a short-term contract just to try. He's a decent to good three-point shooter so teams who's focusing on threes more might get him... or not. For the Lakers, I just hope that they will get better player to replace him, or they will receive more criticisms aside from the ones that are facing right now.
It's short notice and really felt bad for him. But this is business, this is the other side of being not the mainstay of an NBA team, even the superstars are having a hard time having that secured contract with the teams that they're part of.
I just wish him that he'll get a better offer and another team that's good at taking care of their players. NBA is a business and whoever wants to have a secured spot and contracts with their team, they really have to stand up whenever they've been given a chance.

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December 01, 2022, 12:02:23 PM
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Too bad news and sad for Matt Ryan, he's going to be waived on December 15 to open a spot for another Lakers player to get in.
Source: Lakers News: Matt Ryan Being Waived To Open Up Roster Spot Ahead Of Dec. 15
It wasn't that long since he's been part of the Lakers, right? And now, he's being the option to be waived so that another one comes in that might take them to have better days. I don't like this decision on them.
He's a career 37.1% from 3PT line and in the current era where more people are shooting threes, that's a high percentage IMO.
Too bad that he doesn't been given enough minutes. He is only given 10.8 minutes per game on average and that's too low.

I thought that his buzzer beater three against the Pelicans will be his breakthrough and he will be given more minutes, but I guess I'm wrong. I just hope that another team will give him maybe a short-term contract just to try. He's a decent to good three-point shooter so teams who's focusing on threes more might get him... or not. For the Lakers, I just hope that they will get better player to replace him, or they will receive more criticisms aside from the ones that are facing right now.
It's short notice and really felt bad for him. But this is business, this is the other side of being not the mainstay of an NBA team, even the superstars are having a hard time having that secured contract with the teams that they're part of.
I just wish him that he'll get a better offer and another team that's good at taking care of their players. NBA is a business and whoever wants to have a secured spot and contracts with their team, they really have to stand up whenever they've been given a chance.

Yes, at least when he is with the Lakers, he has that kind of game that we can remember of it. And 10 minutes per night might not be good to show your skills in the NBA. Unfortunately, that is business, Lakers need to adjust as early as this day because they don't want to experience what they've going through last season, no adjustments whatsoever. Hopefully, the one that will replace Matt Ryan could contribute even more as Lakers are slowly finding their groove with Lebron back and healthy and then AD having MVP statistics and WB slowly settling down as 6th man.

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