2024 NBA Season

[wheelz1200]

I do not think that the Miami Heat will be pushing that trade although it's only a rumor and a possible trade scenario.

Yeah, I see a lot of speculation in the media about Butler. Apparently, teams like the Rockets, Spurs, Nuggets, Lakers, and Warriors could be the top contenders for Butler if the Heat want to trade him.
Honestly, I think if the Heat decide to trade him, it might be the beginning of a rebuilding phase on their team that will take a few seasons.

I’ve seen the joke reports that Butler is going to the Warriors but I don’t believe it. I think he is going to stay put in Miami. The season will be starting before too much longer. I’m curious to see how Ant and Wemby have gotten better during the offseason

True, it doesn't make sense for Butler to leave the Heat and then goes to the Warriors? I think he is fine with the Heat as their alpha, they just have to surround himself with another set of new role players as some of them have really left the team for higher pay. But for sure they will have to thank the management for that, for their coach to give him the time and exposure and believed on themselves to be a great players. If Butler will go on other teams, it should be that he will be the leader, just like when he went to the Sixers before, with Joel as the leader that time and with Ben Simmons, there are friction and it was not a fruitful stay with the Sixers.

It's a moot point because Jimmy isn't a free agent he can't just pack up and go to the Warriors.  That's all between general managers.  Next year, completely different story but Jimmy is up there too why would he join an aging team that is going the wrong way towards a championship?  Just playing with steph isn't good enough to want to go. 

[dwyane36]

If I’m managing the Lakers I wouldn’t rush to make any moves while LeBron is still on the roster. They need to be looking at ways to unwind this current team and make room for Luka Doncic. They need to stack draft picks and align contracts to expire. With the possibility of being left without LeBron or AD in another 2 years, a superstar like Luka or Giannis needs to be their only focus.

The Lakers don't have anyone (except LeBron and AD) to offer in a trade for Doncic or Giannis, and draft picks would clearly be an insufficient asset for such trades. And honestly, I don't think there are any scenarios where the Mavs would want to trade Doncic, or the Bucks would want to trade Giannis. By the way, Doncic is under contract for 3 more seasons, and I think the Mavs will offer him a huge extension in his last season. Same with Giannis.

[arwin100]

If I’m managing the Lakers I wouldn’t rush to make any moves while LeBron is still on the roster. They need to be looking at ways to unwind this current team and make room for Luka Doncic. They need to stack draft picks and align contracts to expire. With the possibility of being left without LeBron or AD in another 2 years, a superstar like Luka or Giannis needs to be their only focus.

The Lakers don't have anyone (except LeBron and AD) to offer in a trade for Doncic or Giannis, and draft picks would clearly be an insufficient asset for such trades. And honestly, I don't think there are any scenarios where the Mavs would want to trade Doncic, or the Bucks would want to trade Giannis. By the way, Doncic is under contract for 3 more seasons, and I think the Mavs will offer him a huge extension in his last season. Same with Giannis.

Their players have low trading value and its hard for them to move players since they are been affected by last conference performance. If they offer AD or Lebron to other team well provably  that he can get high caliber player in return, but I guess Lakers don't want this trade to happen since Bron have huge market value for their team in terms of marketing and other stuff. While AD is valuable contributor for their team so I guess the only solution to get a good players is thru free agency. Since maybe they can get good role players there. I also don't think that Mavs would trade Doncic he's so valuable piece for them and their team would provably keep him for good. Maybe they have chance to acquire Giannis since there's rumor that he want to leave Bucks. He is so competitive and if Bucks will be at losing streak or he's upset with their campaign then maybe this trade might possible to happen. But let see if they can give up Bron or AD if this possible trade will happen.

[Yaunfitda]

If I’m managing the Lakers I wouldn’t rush to make any moves while LeBron is still on the roster. They need to be looking at ways to unwind this current team and make room for Luka Doncic. They need to stack draft picks and align contracts to expire. With the possibility of being left without LeBron or AD in another 2 years, a superstar like Luka or Giannis needs to be their only focus.

The Lakers don't have anyone (except LeBron and AD) to offer in a trade for Doncic or Giannis, and draft picks would clearly be an insufficient asset for such trades. And honestly, I don't think there are any scenarios where the Mavs would want to trade Doncic, or the Bucks would want to trade Giannis. By the way, Doncic is under contract for 3 more seasons, and I think the Mavs will offer him a huge extension in his last season. Same with Giannis.

Maybe DLo or Austin Reaves or or Rui Hachimura future draft picks might be the best that they can offer if they wanted to pursue either of the players. However, this era has started to be another superstars joining another team to make a super team.

However, it's been like the Heat with Lebron and Dwade and Bosh and then we have KD joining the already loaded team in Warriors back them to win a back to back ring. Giannis though said in the past that he doesn't want to join to form a super team, if I'm not mistaken.

[freedomgo]

Giannis though said in the past that he doesn't want to join to form a super team, if I'm not mistaken.

But they’ve already built a super team, there’s no need for him to join on other team. With Lillard and Middleton alongside him, they’re already stacked. I’m not sure what their fate will be next season, but if they fail again, it’s likely their lineup will be demolish in the coming season.

Forget about the super team era, things are different now. Teams improve through chemistry, like we’ve seen with the Nuggets (who won their first championship), the Wolves (surprising the Suns' super team), and even the Mavericks, who went to the Finals. I like this current trend more, compared to before when super teams dominated and we knew there was always one team in the East and West, like the Cavaliers and Warriors, with an 80% chance of winning.

[TravelMug]

Giannis though said in the past that he doesn't want to join to form a super team, if I'm not mistaken.

But they’ve already built a super team, there’s no need for him to join on other team. With Lillard and Middleton alongside him, they’re already stacked. I’m not sure what their fate will be next season, but if they fail again, it’s likely their lineup will be demolish in the coming season.

Forget about the super team era, things are different now. Teams improve through chemistry, like we’ve seen with the Nuggets (who won their first championship), the Wolves (surprising the Suns' super team), and even the Mavericks, who went to the Finals. I like this current trend more, compared to before when super teams dominated and we knew there was always one team in the East and West, like the Cavaliers and Warriors, with an 80% chance of winning.

I don't know if you can consider the Bucks as super team, it is still Giannis only, and then we have Lillard, but he has been very inconsistent as well and then Middleton, his game has gone down since Lillard join the team as they are almost in the exact position. And I do agree that if they had a bad season again, they could break up and Giannis seeking another great team to win another ring.

Or perhaps there are a lot of good players in the league today as compare to different era's. Although if you look at MJ's era, there are a lot of super teams as well, it's that they are in the wrong era as MJ took over the 90's.

[avp2306]

But they’ve already built a super team, there’s no need for him to join on other team. With Lillard and Middleton alongside him, they’re already stacked. I’m not sure what their fate will be next season, but if they fail again, it’s likely their lineup will be demolish in the coming season.

Forget about the super team era, things are different now. Teams improve through chemistry, like we’ve seen with the Nuggets (who won their first championship), the Wolves (surprising the Suns' super team), and even the Mavericks, who went to the Finals. I like this current trend more, compared to before when super teams dominated and we knew there was always one team in the East and West, like the Cavaliers and Warriors, with an 80% chance of winning.

I don't know if you can consider the Bucks as super team, it is still Giannis only, and then we have Lillard, but he has been very inconsistent as well and then Middleton, his game has gone down since Lillard join the team as they are almost in the exact position. And I do agree that if they had a bad season again, they could break up and Giannis seeking another great team to win another ring.

They are super team in papers but they didn't meet the expectation of people since Lillard addition to Bucks didn't bring them any good result since they fell into more worse situation. Bucks fans say that they commit a mistake for trading Jrue Holiday and Allen because those guys are proven helpful for their team. But I think those trades scenarios plus hiring new coach to manage their team is the reason of their inconsistency. But let see this season if they get over with it and create solid chemistry since somehow Bucks still a strong team.  If Lillard will be consistent and Giannis will remain a monster in paint then maybe this will help them to go further.

Rivers just need to know how to work well their talented piece also players would also trust on the new system they are executing so that everything will fall in good shape with them.

[OgNasty]

I didn’t see this coming. Woj has announced his retirement. The guy who breaks every story in the NBA is hanging up his spurs. Another blow for the NBA it seems. With the TNT crew on their last season and no more Woj, the NBA is going to look a lot different in the near future. Read his statement here: https://x.com/wojespn/status/1836414909829034140

[danherbias07]

I didn’t see this coming. Woj has announced his retirement. The guy who breaks every story in the NBA is hanging up his spurs. Another blow for the NBA it seems. With the TNT crew on their last season and no more Woj, the NBA is going to look a lot different in the near future. Read his statement here: https://x.com/wojespn/status/1836414909829034140

Ouch!
I am always looking at Woj whenever I need an updated report about the NBA and in fact, I even bookmarked his page just so I could easily go directly to it with just a simple type of his 3 letter abbreviated name.

It's sad that the NBA just lost another knight who keeps the fans entertained with his amazing reports and updates about everything that is happening inside the NBA.
Truly, with him gone and Inside the NBA of TNT, I don't even know what to watch next after games and where to find my NBA news with some fun in it. I don't like SAS, his voice makes my ears sore.

Anyway, I think he did it before the season started so that everyone will know that there's nothing to expect on his page anymore. I am glad for him, but I am kind of sad.

FYI, this is his new job.

ESPN senior NBA insider Adrian Wojnarowski has agreed to become the general manager of the men's basketball program at St. Bonaventure, he told ESPN.

https://www.espn.ph/nba/story/_/id/41313868/adrian-wojnarowski-retires-espn-joins-st-bonaventure

[OgNasty]

^ Just plain bad for the NBA rumor mill. This thread will just have to start doing a better job at breaking and distributing news to the masses now that our main source of breaking news in the NBA is no longer doing it. The only real winner in this situation (besides Woj) is Shams, who is now the undisputed King of NBA rumors.

[xLays]

^ Just plain bad for the NBA rumor mill. This thread will just have to start doing a better job at breaking and distributing news to the masses now that our main source of breaking news in the NBA is no longer doing it. The only real winner in this situation (besides Woj) is Shams, who is now the undisputed King of NBA rumors.

You're really an NBA fan since you know about these things. Well, they're the most reliable sources for NBA news where you can get information about NBA rumors. He's been in the NBA news industry for a long time, but the new job he moved to is still related to the NBA basketball. If things don't go well with his new job, for sure Woj will definitely consider going back to his old job at ESPN. For now its time to shine for Shams. lol

[blockman]

It will take time for teams like Detroit to built a championship roster and he'll never know the budget that they can do. That's why like what KD did, these stars can go to the teams they think will help them as well as they're going to give each of them a chip.
Both win-win for players and teams that are looking the same.

Better to go to the team where chances of winning a chip is more possible since the offer might be still the same its better to play with competitive team instead of going a team where there's no chance, in terms of Jimmy he's not getting any younger and with those minor injuries the chance is slim if he's going to a non competitive squad, best to stay with Miami or aim for the team where he can his talents and win a ring.

I agree, he's better to stay with the Miami Heat. It's a good team and is the kryptonite of Boston Celtics.

^ Just plain bad for the NBA rumor mill. This thread will just have to start doing a better job at breaking and distributing news to the masses now that our main source of breaking news in the NBA is no longer doing it. The only real winner in this situation (besides Woj) is Shams, who is now the undisputed King of NBA rumors.

This is just sad. It's surprising that Woj is set to retire. We still have Shams though but if the rumors or news are coming from Woj, they're more accurate.

[OgNasty]

^ Just plain bad for the NBA rumor mill. This thread will just have to start doing a better job at breaking and distributing news to the masses now that our main source of breaking news in the NBA is no longer doing it. The only real winner in this situation (besides Woj) is Shams, who is now the undisputed King of NBA rumors.

You're really an NBA fan since you know about these things. Well, they're the most reliable sources for NBA news where you can get information about NBA rumors. He's been in the NBA news industry for a long time, but the new job he moved to is still related to the NBA basketball. If things don't go well with his new job, for sure Woj will definitely consider going back to his old job at ESPN. For now its time to shine for Shams. lol

I’m definitely an NBA fan. It is the only sport I follow really and the only sport I really miss playing competitively. NBA Central posted that Shams’ contract with The Atlantic expires this year so it’s even better for Shame than I thought. Dude is going to get himself a huge payday and be the undisputed King of NBA Insider information.

https://x.com/thedunkcentral/status/1836421206762836049

[LogitechMouse]

If I’m managing the Lakers I wouldn’t rush to make any moves while LeBron is still on the roster. They need to be looking at ways to unwind this current team and make room for Luka Doncic. They need to stack draft picks and align contracts to expire. With the possibility of being left without LeBron or AD in another 2 years, a superstar like Luka or Giannis needs to be their only focus.

There is 1 question to this one.
- Are both Milwaukee and Dallas willing to give up their main superstar just to get draft picks and some role players?

Take note that both Mavericks and Bucks aren't a bottom-tier team and they are competing for the title. I'm pretty sure that they will not give it up. The Lakers can free up space to get another superstar, but it will not either the 2 of them. They can get other potential superstars from other bottom tier team, but they will not get neither Luka or Giannis. Now let's think that you're the one managing the Lakers, can you please share a mock trade proposal then? One of the Mavericks-Lakers and another for Bucks-Lakers. Or it will be a 3-team trade?

^ Just plain bad for the NBA rumor mill. This thread will just have to start doing a better job at breaking and distributing news to the masses now that our main source of breaking news in the NBA is no longer doing it. The only real winner in this situation (besides Woj) is Shams, who is now the undisputed King of NBA rumors.

With Woj out already, Shams has all the floor to be in the position where Woj has for a very long time. I don't also think that Shams will be the only one that's on the top, but I believe there will be another reporter there that will be against him. Like what he did with Woj back when he was still starting. As for Woj's sudden retirement, it's shocking TBH especially we know how long he has been in ESPN, but it is what it is.

[bitgolden]

Lakers do try to build a team that will be good enough to go for a title again, but they definitely do not have anyone to offer. Maybe Dangelo Russel is the only player on the roster right now they can offer on a trade but that won't be an easy thing to do at all, it will be a very tough trade since he doesn't worth anything. They used everything they have on a trade to get AD and after that they didn't really get anything crazy, the fact that they do not have even proper picks is a problem for them and will continue to be an issue.

I think they already won one title with Lebron and should just be happy with that. I know that they would want more but they can't get it and they look like they are going to end up with just tossing to a wall anytime they reach to playoffs. This is why I think it should be something that is getting a bigger trouble if they rebuild again and again. Just let Lebron play with his son and just retire with peace and then they can rebuild after that.

[jossiel]

Butler definitely looks like he would be great for Warriors but that doesn't mean that we are looking at something that will get a great deal but at the same time this is not a real trade and not even a rumour but just a thought experiment and nothing more.

That goes for the clout and fans that likes to create rumors are like that.

But if it goes and becomes a real thing, trades like this is going to be a surprising one. What I think is the better rumor and close to reality is about Giannis wanting to move to Dallas.

It's more likely as we've heard it last season IIRC that he wants out of the Milwaukee Bucks.

No way the Bucks move giannis there is no reason too.  No reason to take on Dame without having giannis on the team.  He is locked in for 3 more years amd then a player option for another one.  And I'm not entirely sure he would ever want to leave.  A lot of people don't know but the Bucks organization had a huge part in getting his whole family to the united states.  There's things outside of basketball which makes people want to stay working for a certain team.

Yeah, there's no reason for the Bucks to trade him but we've seen star players that have decided to part ways with the team that they've became the face of.

I think that the rumors have said that a year ago or two that it was Giannis expressing his thoughts about leaving the team.

There were some memes even about it that if Bucks won't give his brother a contract, he'd leave.

[FanEagle]

It's clear that they are going to end up failing to get Butler because Warriors do not have anyone that they can trade for him, so it won't really work at all. We should be looking at what we are dealing with when we are talking about trades, just because espn trade machine approved it, doesn't mean it is going to happen or it makes sense. Heat is doing fine, they have decent squad and I am sure that they will try to do fine with who they have, I do not think that they are ready to rebuild and just send players away these days. Neither will Lakers get anyone decent like that, rebuilding is not a situation Heat is ready for at the moment.

I think we need to consider that it's the best thing to do right now just to focus on the players they already have and try to do something decent with them. It would make more sense to do it that way and I believe that as long as we can see these teams build a good chemistry and strategy they are good enough to be a decent playoff team.

[Oasisman]

If I’m managing the Lakers I wouldn’t rush to make any moves while LeBron is still on the roster. They need to be looking at ways to unwind this current team and make room for Luka Doncic. They need to stack draft picks and align contracts to expire. With the possibility of being left without LeBron or AD in another 2 years, a superstar like Luka or Giannis needs to be their only focus.

The Lakers don't have anyone (except LeBron and AD) to offer in a trade for Doncic or Giannis, and draft picks would clearly be an insufficient asset for such trades. And honestly, I don't think there are any scenarios where the Mavs would want to trade Doncic, or the Bucks would want to trade Giannis. By the way, Doncic is under contract for 3 more seasons, and I think the Mavs will offer him a huge extension in his last season. Same with Giannis.

Maybe DLo or Austin Reaves or or Rui Hachimura future draft picks might be the best that they can offer if they wanted to pursue either of the players. However, this era has started to be another superstars joining another team to make a super team.

I don't think that'll work either for both teams. Doncic and Giannis are both a franchise player, so trading them away is not in their books. If, let's say they thought of it somehow, they'll probably going to demand even more. On the other hand, DLo and AR15 or even Rui is now a vital core for the Lakers. They could actually build their team around these 3. This is actually the reason why the Lakers did not trade DLo away and decided to keep him for the 2024-2025 season. Though I'm not a hundred percent sure, maybe they could use him as a piece for a trade to get another superstar, but Doncic or Giannis is quite far from happening IMO.

[OgNasty]

Lots of news in the basketball world today. The latest being from the 76ers. Philadelphia’s Mayor Cherelle Parker came out to say that the city has reached an agreement to "ensure" 76ers stay in Philadelphia. This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

[passwordnow]

This is great news for the city and perhaps bad news for citizens of New Jersey who thought this would be their chance to get an NBA team back.

I have never heard this news, so there was a news about New Jersey acquiring a team again and 76ers was their prospect? I remember in the past that the Nets was with them but that was too long time ago and I was younger back then.

I think we need to consider that it's the best thing to do right now just to focus on the players they already have and try to do something decent with them. It would make more sense to do it that way and I believe that as long as we can see these teams build a good chemistry and strategy they are good enough to be a decent playoff team.

This is what most of the successful teams did. Studying what the teams that have obtained a ring did in the past. Bucks with Giannis, Warriors with Steph, Klay, Dray and of course the contribution of KD but all of those that have stayed for so long with them have been developed. The Boston Celtics also did the same thing for developing Tatum and Brown, the Nuggets have Jokic and Murray.