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[Koal-84]

So...  Anybody know if some of the races are gonna go as scheduled?  I think F1 could be the deadest sport in the middle of the outbreak.

Seems that France GP will be postponed too, because all public events are forbidden in France until middle of July.
It feels like this F1 season won start at all. Well maybe in autumn they will be able to held races, probably without spectators. But there a lot of crazy changes in calendar will be needed, with races almost every weekend. It will be nightmare in terms of logistics.

Postponed or cancelled?  Cos it looks like it's gonna be logisitcally impossible to reschedule some of the postponed GP's and fill them in between the scheduled races that haven't been postponed yet.

France thinks about,

Macron says no mass gatherings until mid-July

https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tour-de-france-facing-postponement-as-country-extends-coronavirus-lockdown/


At Austria the vice chancellor speak open about the Formula 1 GP at July without spectators, so i think that's one of the first GPs.

https://kurier.at/sport/motorsport/coronavirus-krise-formel-1-geisterrennen-in-spielberg-fuer-sportminister-kogler-vorstellbar/400810142

Sorry, but i can only find a article in German.

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At Austria the vice chancellor speak open about the Formula 1 GP at July without spectators, so i think that's one of the first GPs.

https://kurier.at/sport/motorsport/coronavirus-krise-formel-1-geisterrennen-in-spielberg-fuer-sportminister-kogler-vorstellbar/400810142

Sorry, but i can only find a article in German.

I can't see how an organization of a GP who pays 20m € will organize a GP if they can't get money back from the 200.000 people at the circuit.
We have already a lot of complaints for football games at closed doors a F1 GP without people I think is not possibile if anyone gives the money to the owner of the circuit.

[Koal-84]

At Austria the vice chancellor speak open about the Formula 1 GP at July without spectators, so i think that's one of the first GPs.

https://kurier.at/sport/motorsport/coronavirus-krise-formel-1-geisterrennen-in-spielberg-fuer-sportminister-kogler-vorstellbar/400810142

Sorry, but i can only find a article in German.

I can't see how an organization of a GP who pays 20m € will organize a GP if they can't get money back from the 200.000 people at the circuit.
We have already a lot of complaints for football games at closed doors a F1 GP without people I think is not possibile if anyone gives the money to the owner of the circuit.

At Austria GP is another starting point, the owner (Didi Mateschitz) don't need money  . But your point is correct i also see without payed fans no race...

[Juggy777]

At Austria the vice chancellor speak open about the Formula 1 GP at July without spectators, so i think that's one of the first GPs.

https://kurier.at/sport/motorsport/coronavirus-krise-formel-1-geisterrennen-in-spielberg-fuer-sportminister-kogler-vorstellbar/400810142

Sorry, but i can only find a article in German.

I can't see how an organization of a GP who pays 20m € will organize a GP if they can't get money back from the 200.000 people at the circuit.
We have already a lot of complaints for football games at closed doors a F1 GP without people I think is not possibile if anyone gives the money to the owner of the circuit.

At Austria GP is another starting point, the owner (Didi Mateschitz) don't need money   . But your point is correct i also see without payed fans no race...

The Austrian race too shall be canceled even though the Vice Chancellor of Austria is okay with a race without fans, and the reason I feel it’ll be canceled is because of the number of staff required to complete the race. In the Vice Chancellor’s own words around 1000+ support staff is required for the race, and I don’t think they will allow so many people to gather in the arena. Furthermore a race without fans is a disaster in the making, and I feel they should not go ahead with the race.

Sources:

https://www.tnp.sg/sports/others/austrian-grand-prix-july-could-go-ahead-without-fans

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/148589/not-a-chance-australian-gp-will-run-without-fans

[swogerino]

At Austria the vice chancellor speak open about the Formula 1 GP at July without spectators, so i think that's one of the first GPs.

https://kurier.at/sport/motorsport/coronavirus-krise-formel-1-geisterrennen-in-spielberg-fuer-sportminister-kogler-vorstellbar/400810142

Sorry, but i can only find a article in German.

I can't see how an organization of a GP who pays 20m € will organize a GP if they can't get money back from the 200.000 people at the circuit.
We have already a lot of complaints for football games at closed doors a F1 GP without people I think is not possibile if anyone gives the money to the owner of the circuit.

At Austria GP is another starting point, the owner (Didi Mateschitz) don't need money   . But your point is correct i also see without payed fans no race...

The Austrian race too shall be canceled even though the Vice Chancellor of Austria is okay with a race without fans, and the reason I feel it’ll be canceled is because of the number of staff required to complete the race. In the Vice Chancellor’s own words around 1000+ support staff is required for the race, and I don’t think they will allow so many people to gather in the arena. Furthermore a race without fans is a disaster in the making, and I feel they should not go ahead with the race.

Sources:

https://www.tnp.sg/sports/others/austrian-grand-prix-july-could-go-ahead-without-fans

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/148589/not-a-chance-australian-gp-will-run-without-fans

It may happen.Austria is one of the first countries to have lift some measures by opening shops less than 400 square meter big.They may as well allow 1000 persons that are strictly controlled 14 days before the event and they will also be restricted another 14 days in isolation after the event.This can be a solution.

[Koal-84]

At Austria the vice chancellor speak open about the Formula 1 GP at July without spectators, so i think that's one of the first GPs.

https://kurier.at/sport/motorsport/coronavirus-krise-formel-1-geisterrennen-in-spielberg-fuer-sportminister-kogler-vorstellbar/400810142

Sorry, but i can only find a article in German.

I can't see how an organization of a GP who pays 20m € will organize a GP if they can't get money back from the 200.000 people at the circuit.
We have already a lot of complaints for football games at closed doors a F1 GP without people I think is not possibile if anyone gives the money to the owner of the circuit.

At Austria GP is another starting point, the owner (Didi Mateschitz) don't need money   . But your point is correct i also see without payed fans no race...

The Austrian race too shall be canceled even though the Vice Chancellor of Austria is okay with a race without fans, and the reason I feel it’ll be canceled is because of the number of staff required to complete the race. In the Vice Chancellor’s own words around 1000+ support staff is required for the race, and I don’t think they will allow so many people to gather in the arena. Furthermore a race without fans is a disaster in the making, and I feel they should not go ahead with the race.

Sources:

https://www.tnp.sg/sports/others/austrian-grand-prix-july-could-go-ahead-without-fans

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/148589/not-a-chance-australian-gp-will-run-without-fans

It may happen.Austria is one of the first countries to have lift some measures by opening shops less than 400 square meter big.They may as well allow 1000 persons that are strictly controlled 14 days before the event and they will also be restricted another 14 days in isolation after the event.This can be a solution.

More and more shops (also McDonald's with only McDrive) can open by us in Austria since this week, only to until the end of June major events are prohibited (at this time).

Also Christian Honer think about a possible race at Austria.

Will the 2020 season start in Austria with no fans? | Christian Horner, Carlos Sainz & Jenson Button

But it's correct a race without fans are a disaster, but basically it's about money.

[LTU_btc]

So...  Anybody know if some of the races are gonna go as scheduled?  I think F1 could be the deadest sport in the middle of the outbreak.

Seems that France GP will be postponed too, because all public events are forbidden in France until middle of July.
It feels like this F1 season won start at all. Well maybe in autumn they will be able to held races, probably without spectators. But there a lot of crazy changes in calendar will be needed, with races almost every weekend. It will be nightmare in terms of logistics.

Postponed or cancelled?  Cos it looks like it's gonna be logisitcally impossible to reschedule some of the postponed GP's and fill them in between the scheduled races that haven't been postponed yet.

I think it's only matter of time when part of posponed GP's will be cancelled. There isn't just logistics. For example in some European tracks and Canada it will be impossible to held race in autumn because of cold weather. Also, GP's in city tracks like Baku or Singapore probably will be cancelled too because few months is needed just to prepare track.

[Koal-84]

Newest News from BBC, discussion about the Formula 1 session can start at Austria follow from Silverstone.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/52317971

Austria this week became one of the first European counties to loosen restrictions, allowing thousands of shops to open, although people are still being advised to work from home if possible.

Meanwhile, the UK government announced on Thursday a three-week extension on its social distancing guidelines, as the virus spread has not yet peaked, while France has banned mass gatherings until mid-July.

and

Formula 1 & coronavirus: All European races could be behind closed doors

But i hope for starts in Europe with spectators about August 

[Naida_BR]

^^ In my opinion all races must be with closed doors.
Coronavirus has hit all countries around the world not only the European ones.
This measure is going to protect both the fans and the drivers - teams.

[tokeweed]

So...  Anybody know if some of the races are gonna go as scheduled?  I think F1 could be the deadest sport in the middle of the outbreak.

Seems that France GP will be postponed too, because all public events are forbidden in France until middle of July.
It feels like this F1 season won start at all. Well maybe in autumn they will be able to held races, probably without spectators. But there a lot of crazy changes in calendar will be needed, with races almost every weekend. It will be nightmare in terms of logistics.

Postponed or cancelled?  Cos it looks like it's gonna be logisitcally impossible to reschedule some of the postponed GP's and fill them in between the scheduled races that haven't been postponed yet.

I think it's only matter of time when part of posponed GP's will be cancelled. There isn't just logistics. For example in some European tracks and Canada it will be impossible to held race in autumn because of cold weather. Also, GP's in city tracks like Baku or Singapore probably will be cancelled too because few months is needed just to prepare track.

Street circuits should prolly be cancelled cos there's no way they can go on 'behind closed doors.'.  So that's like what...  Three more races to be cancelled?

Anyway, what about our bet?  I'd like for it to go on only if you want to.  

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The majority of Races can't be without people at the circus.

Imagine racing in Monza or Spa where organizer pays 20ish milions € to have the race and earn 0 from the people at the race.

The only way to haveing races with no people is to be a billionaire who cares nothing about the money and own the circuit or to have FIA to give races to circuits for free.

[tokeweed]

^  But what does that mean for the teams and all the races that were actually?  Chalk them up as a losses?  The teams pretty much spent a ton of money.

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^  But what does that mean for the teams and all the races that were actually?  Chalk them up as a losses?  The teams pretty much spent a ton of money.

Teams, in theory, spent money earned the previous year from the position on the final leaderboard.



Source: https://www.racefans.net/2019/03/03/formula-1-teams-prize-money-payments-for-2019-revealed/

They will probably postpone the new car to 2022 and youse the actual car in 2021, IMHO.

[Koal-84]

They will probably postpone the new car to 2022 and youse the actual car in 2021, IMHO.

I read and think the same the little teams have many problems with money so i think the rule changes and new developments are changed by one year. Probably the same by the MotoGP the engine is next year the same without new development only little changes!?

[swogerino]

They will probably postpone the new car to 2022 and youse the actual car in 2021, IMHO.

I read and think the same the little teams have many problems with money so i think the rule changes and new developments are changed by one year. Probably the same by the MotoGP the engine is next year the same without new development only little changes!?

If they use the same car in 2021 from 2020 we all know what is going to happen and that is the majority of the races will be won by Mercedes.I think there is no fun in that as we need more competition in F1.I hope everything start to work as I heard many countries will ease the lockdown rules in Europe.

[Koal-84]

They will probably postpone the new car to 2022 and youse the actual car in 2021, IMHO.

I read and think the same the little teams have many problems with money so i think the rule changes and new developments are changed by one year. Probably the same by the MotoGP the engine is next year the same without new development only little changes!?

If they use the same car in 2021 from 2020 we all know what is going to happen and that is the majority of the races will be won by Mercedes.I think there is no fun in that as we need more competition in F1.I hope everything start to work as I heard many countries will ease the lockdown rules in Europe.

Little changes or evolution i think is possible but no revolution at the technic. Yes the time speaks for the races in Europa from July, if the shutdown is gradually loosened. Every week more and moore are open.

[Koal-84]

It may happen.Austria is one of the first countries to have lift some measures by opening shops less than 400 square meter big.They may as well allow 1000 persons that are strictly controlled 14 days before the event and they will also be restricted another 14 days in isolation after the event.This can be a solution.

In the follow article is the speak about 1500 needs the Grand Prix at Austria to can run without spectors.

https://kurier.at/sport/motorsport/die-idee-vom-geisterrennen-in-spielberg-nimmt-formen-an/400820228

It is also in the article that already about 400 people are tested around the Racetrack. (Hotels, employee, guest houses, etc). So i think at July the F1 starts.

[Koal-84]

Today Helmut Marko from Red Bull F1 team talk about 2 races in the radio at 5 and 12 July at Spielberg, and think that's all possible for the start in the Formula 1 saison.

But i don't know how good this is for the sport, 2 races at one grand prix?

[coinlocket$]

If you are bored you can watch right now an Esport GP on Silverstone with many F1 drivers and retired drivers there are also drivers from other categories.

https://www.twitch.tv/charlesleclerc

some of them are

Leclerc
Button
Liuzzi

[Koal-84]

For all #46 Fans, Rossi speak about his year 2021.

https://the-race.com/motogp/rossi-admits-2021-motogp-return-is-likely/

Valentino Rossi has admitted that 2020 is unlikely to be his final year racing in MotoGP, with the coronavirus-enforced lockdown adjusting his decision on whether or not to continue after the end of this year.

He think the first races are at August or September...