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[Juggy777]

E-Sport Indy race with many pro drivers will start in 18 minutes if you are interest, since this is an "official" race you should be able to bet somewhere.

https://www.twitch.tv/landonorris


The race will be in Indianapolis

It was great race to watch with drama until last lap. And on last lap there was some wtf crazy crashes which resulted unexpected winners. Lando Norris was one of leaders, but he had accident on last laps. But I don't understand why there was no yellow flags qnd safety car after all these accidents.
On Sunday there will be virtual F1 and F2 races, but for me it's least exciting of all these virtual racing series.

@LTU_btc is there any chance that I can get to watch a replay of the above mentioned race, as I totally missed seeing it and since you have given such a rave review therefore now I’m very keen to watch it. Furthermore where’re they showing those virtual races, and should I even bother seeing those races or no?.

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[LTU_btc]

@LTU_btc is there any chance that I can get to watch a replay of the above mentioned race, as I totally missed seeing it and since you have given such a rave review therefore now I’m very keen to watch it. Furthermore where’re they showing those virtual races, and should I even bother seeing those races or no?.

I think you can watch replay on IndyCar Youtube channel:
https://youtu.be/njQCaPXIOnA
Usually these virtual races is broadcasted on Youtube, Facebook and Twitch channels of racing series.
Well, it doesn't replace real racing, but for me it's quite fun to watch.

[Koal-84]

Interview from Dorna CEO about the future and key points for racing at 2020.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/05/01/dorna-ceo-debrief-the-key-points/330019

So i also hope for Start at July (i think no but i hope for spectators) with 10 or 12 races at 2020.

[Koal-84]

MotoGP plans start in July with a double race at spain, the Dorna waits for a OK from the government.

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/05/07/proposal-made-to-hold-two-grands-prix-at-jerez/330264

But I don't know why Spain, the Corona epidemic is very hard there !?


About races outside from Europe,

"If there can be some outside of Europe, yes. We are preparing for between 12 and 16 races."

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2020/05/07/we-re-preparing-for-between-12-16-races-dorna-sports-ceo/330287


Also talks Marc Marques about your speaking with Ducati.

Marquez confirms Ducati approach during contract talks

https://www.motogp.com/en/in+the+media/2020/05/07/marquez-confirms-ducati-approach-during-contract-talks/330284

[Koal-84]

After this session, Sebastian Vettel leave Ferrari, so what is the next Team of the German, McLaren or Renault, i don't think Mercedes 

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-news-sebastian-vettel-to-leave-ferrari-at-the-end-of-2020-f1-season.KBuBQw6AsUvOhB6p7IU9c.html

Next teammate of LecLerc, maybe with much money Hamilton?

[LTU_btc]

After this session, Sebastian Vettel leave Ferrari, so what is the next Team of the German, McLaren or Renault, i don't think Mercedes 

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-news-sebastian-vettel-to-leave-ferrari-at-the-end-of-2020-f1-season.KBuBQw6AsUvOhB6p7IU9c.html

Next teammate of LecLerc, maybe with much money Hamilton?

Wow, very interesting. Now there is two main questions - where Seb will go and who will replace him. I would predict that Ricciardo will join Ferrari, his contract ends this year. Hamilton - it's possible, but I doubt about it. Alonso maybe?
And it's interesting where Vettel will go. I won't predict it...

[swogerino]

After this session, Sebastian Vettel leave Ferrari, so what is the next Team of the German, McLaren or Renault, i don't think Mercedes 

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-news-sebastian-vettel-to-leave-ferrari-at-the-end-of-2020-f1-season.KBuBQw6AsUvOhB6p7IU9c.html

Next teammate of LecLerc, maybe with much money Hamilton?

I doubt he will be driving McLaren although I hope it does.I think more of a head to head exchange with Hamilton as Hamilton I think has won enough to try and win some more with another team would be ideal.Movements seems limited right now as Vettel will go away at the end of this season and then we will have a clearer picture what might happen.

[tokeweed]

After this session, Sebastian Vettel leave Ferrari, so what is the next Team of the German, McLaren or Renault, i don't think Mercedes  

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-news-sebastian-vettel-to-leave-ferrari-at-the-end-of-2020-f1-season.KBuBQw6AsUvOhB6p7IU9c.html

Next teammate of LecLerc, maybe with much money Hamilton?

Heh...  Just heard the news too.  And I was so excited in coming here thinking I was gonna tell eveeybody about it first.  

I think it's gonna be, Vettel back to RBR, Verstappen to Merc, Hamilton to Ferrari.  Dunno.

Edit:  Is there a clause in Verstappen's contract?

[Juggy777]

After this session, Sebastian Vettel leave Ferrari, so what is the next Team of the German, McLaren or Renault, i don't think Mercedes  

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-news-sebastian-vettel-to-leave-ferrari-at-the-end-of-2020-f1-season.KBuBQw6AsUvOhB6p7IU9c.html

Next teammate of LecLerc, maybe with much money Hamilton?

Wow, very interesting. Now there is two main questions - where Seb will go and who will replace him. I would predict that Ricciardo will join Ferrari, his contract ends this year. Hamilton - it's possible, but I doubt about it. Alonso maybe?
And it's interesting where Vettel will go. I won't predict it...

I doubt he will be driving McLaren although I hope it does.I think more of a head to head exchange with Hamilton as Hamilton I think has won enough to try and win some more with another team would be ideal.Movements seems limited right now as Vettel will go away at the end of this season and then we will have a clearer picture what might happen.

Heh...  Just heard the news too.  And I was so excited in coming here thinking I was gonna tell eveeybody about it first.  

I think it's gonna be, Vettel back to RBR, Verstappen to Merc, Hamilton to Ferrari.  Dunno.

Edit:  Is there a clause in Verstappen's contract?

@koal-84 I’m really surprised that Ferrari continued with Vettel for so long, as he's been constantly underperforming for quiet a while now, and I believe that this change will suit both the parties (him and Ferrari) as they both could use a fresh start. @LTU_btc it’ll be a bold move from Ferrari if they try and convince Hamilton to come over and race for them, and I can’t even imagine the records that he’ll be able to break with Ferrari’s speed, and his own driving skills. Lastly according to Eddie Jordan there’s a possibility of a deal being done where Vettel would join Mercedes, and Hamilton would go and race for Ferrari, but this deal is yet not confirmed hence we will have to wait and find out if this deal will take place or no.

The only way Vettel is going to Mercedes is if Hamilton takes his Ferrari seat.

Former F1 team boss Eddie Jordan reckons it is already in play.

“Lewis will switch to Ferrari,” he told F1-Insider.com earlier this month. “Only the Italians can still afford his salary and they know that he is worth it.”

Mercedes would need a big-name driver to sit alongside Bottas and Vettel, although the past few seasons haven’t gone according to plan, is still a four-time World Champion.

Sources:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-8310561/Lewis-Hamilton-Ferrari-Sebastian-Vettel-leave-giants-2020-season.html

https://www.planetf1.com/features/sebastian-vettel-future/

[Koal-84]

The only way Vettel is going to Mercedes is if Hamilton takes his Ferrari seat.

Former F1 team boss Eddie Jordan reckons it is already in play.

“Lewis will switch to Ferrari,” he told F1-Insider.com earlier this month. “Only the Italians can still afford his salary and they know that he is worth it.”

Mercedes would need a big-name driver to sit alongside Bottas and Vettel, although the past few seasons haven’t gone according to plan, is still a four-time World Champion.



Sources:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/formulaone/article-8310561/Lewis-Hamilton-Ferrari-Sebastian-Vettel-leave-giants-2020-season.html

https://www.planetf1.com/features/sebastian-vettel-future/

I think the same only Ferrari can pay the money to Hamilton to drive by other than Mercedes. In Austria medias are also take about Carlos Sainz Jr. after Vettel or only a change? But i don't think McLaren wants to pay or can pay his salary, I heard Vettel become at Ferrari 30 million a year   .

About the best chances for the Ferrari cockpit:

Die besten Chancen auf das Cockpit im legendären Auto haben der Spanier Carlos Sainz jr. (derzeit McLaren) und der Australier Daniel Ricciardo (Renault).

https://kurier.at/sport/motorsport/formel-1-star-sebastian-vettel-verlaesst-ferrari-am-saisonende/400839044

But i don't think so...

[tokeweed]

^  Lel.  I don't think Vettel will ever move to McLaren unless it was double his salary.    He's always been a winner at heart and I bet he's dyyiing to get another championship under his belt.  It would've been sweet for him if he did it with Ferrari.

Anyway..  Anybody wanna bet against me?  I say Vettel goes back to RBR next season.  My 10 for your 30.  But if he takes a sabbatical, the bet is off.

[Koal-84]

^  Lel.  I don't think Vettel will ever move to McLaren unless it was double his salary.    He's always been a winner at heart and I bet he's dyyiing to get another championship under his belt.  It would've been sweet for him if he did it with Ferrari.

Anyway..  Anybody wanna bet against me?  I say Vettel goes back to RBR next season.  My 10 for your 30.  But if he takes a sabbatical, the bet is off.

I don't think that RBR will Vettel back, that's very difficult when you have two alpha racer in the team, i think that's not what helmut marko and christian horner want.

But for the fans it can be good, like Prost and Senna at McLaren Honda or Hamilton and Rosberg✌

[coinlocket$]

So in the end, what I told you a couple of months ago could not be a feasible thing now.

Months ago I told you that Hamilton could leave Mercedes to go to Ferrari and today a small step in this direction has been done.

I remind you that we have gone through other steps in these months.

Lewis's contract expires later this year as does Vettel.
Today Ferrari and Vettel have announced the divorce.
Hamilton in the winter released an interview in which he claimed to have already spoken to Ferrari for a possible change of team.
LeClerc gave an interview a couple of months ago they say "it would be nice to race with Hamilton", this made me think a lot about the possible exchange between Ferrari and Mercedes very likely.

Looking only at salaries, Ferrari could afford him anyone, this is the current ranking

Code:

Lewis Hamilton 	Mercedes 	€50,000,000
Sebastian Vettel 	Ferrari 	€40,000,000
Max Verstappen 	Red Bull 	€ 40,000,000
Daniel Ricciardo 	Renault 	€18,000,000
Charles Leclerc 	Ferrari 	€9,000,000
Valtteri Bottas 	Mercedes 	€7,500,000
Kimi Raikkonen 	Alfa Romeo 	€4,000,000
Carlos Sainz 	        McLaren 	€3,500,000
Sergio Perez 	        Racing Point 	€3,000,000
Esteban Ocon 	Renault 	€1,500,000
Alexander Albon 	Red Bull 	€1,200,000
Lance Stroll 	        Racing Point 	€1,000,000
Romain Grosjean 	Haas 	€1,000,000
Kevin Magnussen 	Haas 	€1,000,000
Pierre Gasly 	        Toro Rosso 	€400,000
Lando Norris 	        McLaren 	€400,000
Daniil Kvyat 	        Toro Rosso 	€275,000
Antonio Giovinazzi 	Alfa Romeo 	€200,000
George Russell 	Williams 	€200,000
Nicholas Latifi   	Williams 	/

List here: https://www.money.it/Stipendi-piloti-Formula-1-2020-classifica

As Italian my hopes are for

Hamilton, Riccardo Tier 1
Norris, Sains Tier 2

I hope they will never take Giovinazzi cause he is Italian, other drivers are stronger IMHO.

[LTU_btc]

According to Motorsport.com, Carlos Sainz will replace Vettel in Ferrari and they will announce about this week.
I like Carlos, he had good season at Mclaren, but after Vettel, it looks like big downgrade.
Ricciardo - as I understand, he didn't agree to be second driver.
Hamilton - it would be very interesting, but I don't expect such move.
Giovinazzi - c'mon, he barely can compete with old Kimi, what would he do in Ferrari?
Mick Shumacher - too early probably, he haven't achieved anything significant in F2 yet.
How about Alonso ? Would be interesting, but I'm a bit sceptical about him.
Where Vettel will go? Red Bull - why not? Mercedes - only if Hamilton will move to Ferrari. And maybe it's possible that Seb will decide to leave F1.

[Koal-84]

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Thank you for the list and link to there earnings 

@LTU_btc

When the announcement this week than the have already negotiations conducted, but we will see .

I'm curious where Vettel will be staying, if sainz comes i think Mclaren too. But Vettel will have to accept a big drop in salary 

[Koal-84]

At 5 minutes ago on the radio from us in Austria it is certain that Vettel will sign with McLaren on Thursday ...

So i think Sainz so to Ferrari... Tomorrow will will know more 

[tokeweed]

^  Lel.  I don't think Vettel will ever move to McLaren unless it was double his salary.    He's always been a winner at heart and I bet he's dyyiing to get another championship under his belt.  It would've been sweet for him if he did it with Ferrari.

Anyway..  Anybody wanna bet against me?  I say Vettel goes back to RBR next season.  My 10 for your 30.  But if he takes a sabbatical, the bet is off.

I don't think that RBR will Vettel back, that's very difficult when you have two alpha racer in the team, i think that's not what helmut marko and christian horner want.

But for the fans it can be good, like Prost and Senna at McLaren Honda or Hamilton and Rosberg✌

You wanna bet on it then?  

And no...  I think the cancellation of some races this year could've activated a clause on Verstappen's contract under technicality, making him eligible to transfer to another team.

What would be good for fans really would be a home coming for Vettel imo.

[Koal-84]

Bet on it 😂😂 i think tomorrow are officially that Vettel and Sainz change the Team 😉.

And normally RBR relies on young drivers!?

[LTU_btc]

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.mclaren-swoop-for-daniel-ricciardo-as-carlos-sainz-replacement-for-2021.6CgsQLN5ZasbdFg4qCjbZo.html
Daniel Ricciardo signed multiple year deal with Mclaren and will replace Carlos Sainz from 2021
Though it was announced officially yet, now there is no doubts that Sainz will move to Ferrari.
I'm happy for Ricciardo, Mclaren is much better option than Renault.
Now there is another big question left open - where Vettel will go?

[coinlocket$]

Big day big disappointment so far, Hamilton is not going to Ferrari.

Riccardo
Renault <-> Mclaren

Sains
McLaren <-> Ferrari


https://twitter.com/F1/status/1260857624154832896

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1260867105626480641


Sainz is not a bad driver but I don't think he got the factor "x" to be a champion, let's see...