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[Koal-84]

So some talks are swirling around that Vettel is going to Racing Point next year as there are more talks about its car being legal and allowed.  

But here's another rumor...  If the pink Merc is legal, Toro Rosso or whatever they're called now will build a car next year based on this year's RB16 and get Vettel to drive it.  Hmmm...  Vettel will be back at RBR in no time after Verstappen leaves.

If the car Racing Point builds will be really competitive and would give Vettel a chance to fight for winning races that would be good for Vettel and F1 in general.However I strongly believe that Racing Point will not offer such a car with this performance next year.We have to see the behavior of this car in the upcoming races and if it is on the upside then maybe they will be able to offer such car to Vettel.

Next year Racing Point becomes unnamed to Aston Martin (Mercedes Team #2) , at time Sergio Perez have a valid contract for next year and i think the departure will be well paid from Aston Martin. Maybe Vettel paused one year?

About Mercedes, i wonder about this news? The DAS system is banned next year?

Mercedes plans to continue with DAS development

 

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[-CryptoViking-]

So some talks are swirling around that Vettel is going to Racing Point next year as there are more talks about its car being legal and allowed.  

But here's another rumor...  If the pink Merc is legal, Toro Rosso or whatever they're called now will build a car next year based on this year's RB16 and get Vettel to drive it.  Hmmm...  Vettel will be back at RBR in no time after Verstappen leaves.

If the car Racing Point builds will be really competitive and would give Vettel a chance to fight for winning races that would be good for Vettel and F1 in general.However I strongly believe that Racing Point will not offer such a car with this performance next year.We have to see the behavior of this car in the upcoming races and if it is on the upside then maybe they will be able to offer such car to Vettel.

Next year Racing Point becomes unnamed to Aston Martin (Mercedes Team #2) , at time Sergio Perez have a valid contract for next year and i think the departure will be well paid from Aston Martin. Maybe Vettel paused one year?

About Mercedes, i wonder about this news? The DAS system is banned next year?

Mercedes plans to continue with DAS development

 

Well it is mentioned in the article that they will focus mostly on extracting as much performance out of DAS as possible during this season. There is not much talk that they will still focus on further development of the DAS after this season ends, but if they find a way to adjust it so it bends the rules a bit they will use it in 2021 in a new way for sure.

[Koal-84]

New article about Racing Point (Aston Martin) and Vettel

Aston Martin would be "foreign territory" for Vettel

But is this good for Vettel to go to the #2 Mercedes Team and he have chance to win with Aston Martin Brand prix?

[dre1982]

So some talks are swirling around that Vettel is going to Racing Point next year as there are more talks about its car being legal and allowed.  

But here's another rumor...  If the pink Merc is legal, Toro Rosso or whatever they're called now will build a car next year based on this year's RB16 and get Vettel to drive it.  Hmmm...  Vettel will be back at RBR in no time after Verstappen leaves.

Well dont know when Verstappen will leave Red Bull. The only step forward for him is to Mercedes and I don't see that happen when Hamilton is still in the Mercedes team.

Verstappen has a clause in his contract that he can leave if the team does not build a car that can compete for the title, so technically Verstappen can leave suddenly depending on the car performance.

Regarding Vettel, I'm pretty sure he will end up in Racing point/Aston Martin.

Well I know that Verstappen has a clause in his contract but I think Mercedes is the only other team which can give him a better car.

At Red Bull they think they have found the recent problems of the car and have fixed it. Let's see if there are closer to Mercedes this weekend.

[Koal-84]

So some talks are swirling around that Vettel is going to Racing Point next year as there are more talks about its car being legal and allowed.  

But here's another rumor...  If the pink Merc is legal, Toro Rosso or whatever they're called now will build a car next year based on this year's RB16 and get Vettel to drive it.  Hmmm...  Vettel will be back at RBR in no time after Verstappen leaves.

Well dont know when Verstappen will leave Red Bull. The only step forward for him is to Mercedes and I don't see that happen when Hamilton is still in the Mercedes team.

Verstappen has a clause in his contract that he can leave if the team does not build a car that can compete for the title, so technically Verstappen can leave suddenly depending on the car performance.

Regarding Vettel, I'm pretty sure he will end up in Racing point/Aston Martin.

Well I know that Verstappen has a clause in his contract but I think Mercedes is the only other team which can give him a better car.

At Red Bull they think they have found the recent problems of the car and have fixed it. Let's see if there are closer to Mercedes this weekend.

I think as you, only Mercedes is for Verstappen a step forward. I also read about aerodynamic problems at RedBull, the team analysis the problem and when they understand the problem then engineers will fix. Newey speak from a very difficult situation. So RedBull make one step back to later two forward, but i only find a German article.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/formel-1/red-bull-problem-analyse-upgrades-nase-aerodynamik/

So i hope RedBull have fix the problem for this weekend, the races would be more exciting again.

[Cnut237]

Well I know that Verstappen has a clause in his contract but I think Mercedes is the only other team which can give him a better car.

The team dynamic is a crucial factor. I think there is zero chance of Verstappen or Vettel going to Mercedes whilst Hamilton is still there. Remember the chaos and infighting of the Hamilton/Rosberg years? What they have now in Bottas is a very good driver who is willing to accept (to the extent that any driver ever accepts it) that he is the number 2 in the team and a back-up to Hamilton. Mercedes have a world-class, multi-champion lead driver, and a second driver who is high enough quality to ensure that Mercedes remain constructors champions. And the team atmosphere is calm. Mercedes gain nothing by bring in Verstappen or Vettel. Hamilton is a winner, and if Bottas is good enough for 2nd place, then how can they improve on that?

[Naida_BR]

Sergio Perez is being tested for COVID-19 for second time.
He keeps himself in isolation ulti the results come out.
If he will be positve then we are going to probably see the Calendar being postponed for at least 15 days...

[-CryptoViking-]

Well I know that Verstappen has a clause in his contract but I think Mercedes is the only other team which can give him a better car.

The team dynamic is a crucial factor. I think there is zero chance of Verstappen or Vettel going to Mercedes whilst Hamilton is still there. Remember the chaos and infighting of the Hamilton/Rosberg years? What they have now in Bottas is a very good driver who is willing to accept (to the extent that any driver ever accepts it) that he is the number 2 in the team and a back-up to Hamilton. Mercedes have a world-class, multi-champion lead driver, and a second driver who is high enough quality to ensure that Mercedes remain constructors champions. And the team atmosphere is calm. Mercedes gain nothing by bring in Verstappen or Vettel. Hamilton is a winner, and if Bottas is good enough for 2nd place, then how can they improve on that?

I agree with all of you and I never meant to say Verstappen will leave, just that he always has that option open based on his contract.

And yeah, Merc is the best at the moment, but that can change and things in Formula change sometimes very drastically and fast. Plus you have an allure of Ferrari always present and not many drivers pass opportunity to drive for Ferrari.

All this is for 2022. not 2021. There could be a lot of shuffling in 2022. when it comes to drivers.

[LTU_btc]

Sergio Perez is being tested for COVID-19 for second time.
He keeps himself in isolation ulti the results come out.
If he will be positve then we are going to probably see the Calendar being postponed for at least 15 days...

And his second Covid-19 test was positive:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53601564
But they aren't going to postpone race because of this. Almost 2 weeks passed since last race and Perez didn't had contact with staff and other drivers recently. He will be replace by Stoffel Vandoorne or Esteban Gutierrez.
When season is so short, every missed race can affect position in drivers championship seriously...

[coinlocket$]

Sergio Perez is positive to COVID, the 1st rumor is that they are talking for a new driver so the GP will happen.

Source: https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/sport/sergio-perez-in-quarantena-il-primo-pilota-positivo-in-formula1_21346803-202002a.shtml

[dre1982]

Sergio Perez is positive to COVID, the 1st rumor is that they are talking for a new driver so the GP will happen.

Source: https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/sport/sergio-perez-in-quarantena-il-primo-pilota-positivo-in-formula1_21346803-202002a.shtml

I think they will let Hulkenburg drive the next two races.

Perez have to be at least 10 days in quarantine so will also miss next weekend.

[Juggy777]

Sergio Perez is being tested for COVID-19 for second time.
He keeps himself in isolation ulti the results come out.
If he will be positve then we are going to probably see the Calendar being postponed for at least 15 days...

And his second Covid-19 test was positive:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/53601564
But they aren't going to postpone race because of this. Almost 2 weeks passed since last race and Perez didn't had contact with staff and other drivers recently. He will be replace by Stoffel Vandoorne or Esteban Gutierrez.
When season is so short, every missed race can affect position in drivers championship seriously...

@LTU_btc yea the race is on and it makes no sense to cancel it because there’s very limited time now, and further no one else seems to be effected because of him so it’s fine if they continue with this race.

Sergio Perez is positive to COVID, the 1st rumor is that they are talking for a new driver so the GP will happen.

Source: https://www.tgcom24.mediaset.it/sport/sergio-perez-in-quarantena-il-primo-pilota-positivo-in-formula1_21346803-202002a.shtml

I think they will let Hulkenburg drive the next two races.

Perez have to be at least 10 days in quarantine so will also miss next weekend.

@dre1982 according to this article (link below) Hulkenberg paid a visit to Racing Point Silverstone factory, and they believe that his name will be announced as the driver who’ll replace Sergio for the upcoming race.

According to reports from Motorsport.com and Racer, Racing Point is leaning towards the German’s services this weekend. The Racer reports that Hulkenberg visited Racing Point’s Silverstone factory for a seat fit on Thursday. Allegedly, the team could potentially announce Nico Hulkenberg as Perez’s replacement on Friday morning.

Source:

https://www.essentiallysports.com/f1-news-nico-hulkenberg-reportedly-set-to-replace-sergio-perez-at-racing-point-f1-for-the-british-grand-prix/

[Cnut237]

Perez have to be at least 10 days in quarantine so will also miss next weekend.

Yes, it does look like he'll miss two races, even if he has no symptoms.

It's understood that Perez will also miss the F1 70th Anniversary Grand Prix at Silverstone next weekend as he remains in isolation, with his replacement set to be drafted in for at least two races this season.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/motor-racing/formula1/sergio-perez-coronavirus-positive-british-grand-prix-racing-point-drivers-a9646916.html

When season is so short, every missed race can affect position in drivers championship seriously...

Indeed. It hasn't been said much, but the quarantining combined with the compressed calendar with races most weekends does make the season a bit of a lottery. Consider Hamilton, leading the championship now by 5 points - if he catches CV19 it could be the end of his championship hopes. Let's ignore fastest lap for simplicity, but if he misses 2 races, then the dominance of the Mercedes is such that you'd expect Bottas to win both, picking up 50 points and taking a huge championship lead of 45 points. If Hamilton then came back and won every remaining race, with Bottas finishing second, then Hamilton would only claw back 7pts per race, so it could then take 7 races (7*7=49) for Hamilton to regain the lead... and by that point there could well not be 7 races remaining.

[Koal-84]

Yes Perez after the second test positiv, so Racing Point need a other driver.

According to the follow article Racing Point prefer Hulkenberg to choice Perez for the British race weekend.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hulkenberg-tipped-to-replace-perez-at-racing-point/4846486/

[AakZaki]

After three Yamaha riders take the podiums one, two and three at Jerez, the Yamaha engine will be tested at the Brno circuit and two race again. As we know, the character of the Brno circuit and two circuit that will be passed  is a straight track, we know that Yamaha has a weakness with a straight track. History can be seen four seasons no Yamaha riders who were able to win at Brno, Honda riders and ducati who were on the podium. Although the speed of the motor is not the main factor, it is very support to win in the next two races that have a straight circuit character. Can Yamaha continue the positive trend at Brno? I think that's difficult.

[Koal-84]

After three Yamaha riders take the podiums one, two and three at Jerez, the Yamaha engine will be tested at the Brno circuit and two race again. As we know, the character of the Brno circuit and two circuit that will be passed  is a straight track, we know that Yamaha has a weakness with a straight track. History can be seen four seasons no Yamaha riders who were able to win at Brno, Honda riders and ducati who were on the podium. Although the speed of the motor is not the main factor, it is very support to win in the next two races that have a straight circuit character. Can Yamaha continue the positive trend at Brno? I think that's difficult.

At Brno i see a chance for Yamaha only the uphill straight you need more engine power but the under circuit at Brno is a balanced circuit. But in Austria that's a power race for the engine there i don't see many chance for Yamaha bu we will see the next 4 Weeks. And Honda have without Marc not really a chance to win, but think he'll be back soon.

[Shasha80]

After three Yamaha riders take the podiums one, two and three at Jerez, the Yamaha engine will be tested at the Brno circuit and two race again. As we know, the character of the Brno circuit and two circuit that will be passed  is a straight track, we know that Yamaha has a weakness with a straight track. History can be seen four seasons no Yamaha riders who were able to win at Brno, Honda riders and ducati who were on the podium. Although the speed of the motor is not the main factor, it is very support to win in the next two races that have a straight circuit character. Can Yamaha continue the positive trend at Brno? I think that's difficult.

I agree Yamaha will have difficulty continuing the positive trend at Brno circuit. Especially if you look at the data and history of the last
few seasons Yamaha riders always fail to win at Brno. Hopefully the Yamaha team can think of the right strategy to win at Brno, because
mentally Yamaha riders are ready. We hope that Yamaha technicians can find solutions related to the weaknesses of Yamaha motorcycles
in a straight track.

[babygun]

Yes Perez after the second test positiv, so Racing Point need a other driver.

According to the follow article Racing Point prefer Hulkenberg to choice Perez for the British race weekend.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hulkenberg-tipped-to-replace-perez-at-racing-point/4846486/

Hulkenberg seems to be the top candidate to replace Perez for the race this weekend, but I would love to see that Vandoorne gets another chace. In my eyes, he didn't really get a fair chance to show his talent.
Depending on the result of Hulkenberg, Vandoorne may get a chance for the 2nd race next weekend.

[Naida_BR]

Yes Perez after the second test positiv, so Racing Point need a other driver.

According to the follow article Racing Point prefer Hulkenberg to choice Perez for the British race weekend.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hulkenberg-tipped-to-replace-perez-at-racing-point/4846486/

Hulkenberg is the best choice for Racing Point.
He was driving in the championship last year and he has a lot of experience of races. The only difference is that this year is in a much more faster car than the last season...

[coinlocket$]

Another shitty day for Ferrari, remember the car is not so bad because of the car.

Ferrari lost around 50hp since the change of the oil on their gasoline PLUS Mercedes is using the same thing what was using Ferrari but in a different way for a total of 90-100 hp difference.

Why was banned on Ferrari but allowed in Mercedes?




This is the median value for the prevision for laps on Sunday

Source: https://f1ingenerale.com/f1-analisi-passo-gara-fp2-gp-gran-bretagna-mercedes-e-verstappen-davanti-la-ferrari-arranca/