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[Koal-84]

As said this is should be a Ferrari track, where the traction on low-speed turns is the key.

They can go lower tomorrow, with 70% of rain on Sunday.

It is easily possible that in Monte Carlo Ferrari have an advantage over RedBull due to their car design, RedBull has a slightly faster design on the straights and Ferrari in the corners.

In MotoGP yesterday Aprilia wore rear spoilers for a little more downforce on the rear tires in certain areas, wait and see if that comes more often.



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[Juggy777]

Charles Leclerc had two great practice sessions today. He led both of them and improved his best time in the FP2 also. Sainz and Perez followed him right behind in both sessions but I still can't trust Sainz for this race also. Because he has been making very simple mistakes for some races and I don't know why he has lost his focus this easy. It happened even right after extending his contract for two more years. Ferrari really need him to race at a higher level to fight for the constructors championship.

Charles is at home here, he has an advantage and he is driving a car with a lot of drag.
He must do the pole tomorrow, no excuses.

@coinlocket$ even if he makes it to the pole then too there’s no guarantee that he’ll finish on the top, hence I’m hoping that he can improve in tomorrow’s race and win so we can continue seeing him and Max duel it out for the title. Furthermore I don’t expect Max to give up in this race so easily, therefore I’m expecting a strong show from him and thus I have lowered my expectations on Charles in case he doesn’t win.

[swogerino]

Charles Leclerc had two great practice sessions today. He led both of them and improved his best time in the FP2 also. Sainz and Perez followed him right behind in both sessions but I still can't trust Sainz for this race also. Because he has been making very simple mistakes for some races and I don't know why he has lost his focus this easy. It happened even right after extending his contract for two more years. Ferrari really need him to race at a higher level to fight for the constructors championship.

Charles is at home here, he has an advantage and he is driving a car with a lot of drag.
He must do the pole tomorrow, no excuses.

@coinlocket$ even if he makes it to the pole then too there’s no guarantee that he’ll finish on the top, hence I’m hoping that he can improve in tomorrow’s race and win so we can continue seeing him and Max duel it out for the title. Furthermore I don’t expect Max to give up in this race so easily, therefore I’m expecting a strong show from him and thus I have lowered my expectations on Charles in case he doesn’t win.

I would also prefer for Charles to win this race,he needs it very badly psychologically speaking as he had bad results and a retirement when he was leading last race.This can be very bad for his mental health,another failure especially here in his home race would be devastating and I doubt he will be strong enough mentally to recover after such events that could happen in a consecutive way.He needs to get pole,get out first of the first corner which is easy here if you are on pole as you start from the clean part of the track and don't make any mistake until the end of the race,of course no engine failures or turbo failures needed to achieve this.

[coinlocket$]

@coinlocket$ even if he makes it to the pole then too there’s no guarantee that he’ll finish on the top, hence I’m hoping that he can improve in tomorrow’s race and win so we can continue seeing him and Max duel it out for the title. Furthermore I don’t expect Max to give up in this race so easily, therefore I’m expecting a strong show from him and thus I have lowered my expectations on Charles in case he doesn’t win.

Yeah, this is true but I think 90% of the time who makes the pole in Monaco wins the race.
It is almost impossible to overtake.

This time can be different, rain is probable too.

[Jackl87]

even if he makes it to the pole then too there’s no guarantee that he’ll finish on the top, hence I’m hoping that he can improve in tomorrow’s race and win so we can continue seeing him and Max duel it out for the title. Furthermore I don’t expect Max to give up in this race so easily, therefore I’m expecting a strong show from him and thus I have lowered my expectations on Charles in case he doesn’t win.

To be fair and realistic though it is almost impossible to overtake in Monaco so if LeClerc is able to get the pole position today and if he manages to have a good start tomorrow and is still ahead after the first corner of the race then it is almost certain that he will also finish the race in the first place. If his car will not have problems with the power unit again of course as it has in the last race in Spain.
That is also the reason why i think the race in Monaco is the most boring one of the whole season. Yes it is maybe the most prestigious one for whatever reason and it is the race that is attended by the most celebrities but that is not a good thing in my opinion because they don't really care about the sport anyway.

[swogerino]

even if he makes it to the pole then too there’s no guarantee that he’ll finish on the top, hence I’m hoping that he can improve in tomorrow’s race and win so we can continue seeing him and Max duel it out for the title. Furthermore I don’t expect Max to give up in this race so easily, therefore I’m expecting a strong show from him and thus I have lowered my expectations on Charles in case he doesn’t win.

To be fair and realistic though it is almost impossible to overtake in Monaco so if LeClerc is able to get the pole position today and if he manages to have a good start tomorrow and is still ahead after the first corner of the race then it is almost certain that he will also finish the race in the first place. If his car will not have problems with the power unit again of course as it has in the last race in Spain.
That is also the reason why i think the race in Monaco is the most boring one of the whole season. Yes it is maybe the most prestigious one for whatever reason and it is the race that is attended by the most celebrities but that is not a good thing in my opinion because they don't really care about the sport anyway.

Keep in mind that if Verstappen is able to stay behind Leclerc in less than 2 seconds during the race we all know that Redbull is the fastest team when it comes to pit stops so Ferrari needs to be well prepared even for this scenario which is the most probable one if the race is run in normal conditions,no rain and no massive Safety Car entries.I personally like Monaco as a track as although it is boring as many say it is also unpredictable,change can happen in a fraction of a second here,you lose concentration and you directly hit the wall no way out.We saw yesterday in Free Practice that some drivers like Vettel near missed it and one of the Redbull drivers locked the brakes so a lot to happen in this race.

[Republikcoin.com]

WithU RNF to become satellite team of Aprilia
The deal means that there will now be four RS-GPs on the grid from 2023

Together for the next season, RNF Racing and Aprilia Racing reached a milestone today by announcing their partnership for two seasons and renewable for a further two years. For the first time in its young MotoGP™ history, Aprilia will have a satellite team and four Aprilia RS-GPs on track.

Following the past successes, RNF Racing maintains its philosophy which is to develop riders that will eventually become the factory team riders befitting the role of RNF Racing as the development team for Aprilia Racing. This philosophy is in line with Aprilia, which will involve a strong synergy that will lead Aprilia Racing to invest in the partnership for the training of engineers, technicians, managers and, of course, riders.

After proving its competitiveness in the 2022 season, Aprilia Racing presents a package that fits the objective for RNF Racing in the long run and to be competitive. With the multi-year programme in place, RNF Racing will be a valuable ally for Aprilia Racing in the immediate future that will lead to the expansion and enhancement of technical and sporting knowledge. _{Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/05/27/withu-rnf-to-become-satellite-team-of-aprilia/421979}

[junmisakiro]

WithU RNF to become satellite team of Aprilia
The deal means that there will now be four RS-GPs on the grid from 2023

Together for the next season, RNF Racing and Aprilia Racing reached a milestone today by announcing their partnership for two seasons and renewable for a further two years. For the first time in its young MotoGP™ history, Aprilia will have a satellite team and four Aprilia RS-GPs on track.

Following the past successes, RNF Racing maintains its philosophy which is to develop riders that will eventually become the factory team riders befitting the role of RNF Racing as the development team for Aprilia Racing. This philosophy is in line with Aprilia, which will involve a strong synergy that will lead Aprilia Racing to invest in the partnership for the training of engineers, technicians, managers and, of course, riders.

After proving its competitiveness in the 2022 season, Aprilia Racing presents a package that fits the objective for RNF Racing in the long run and to be competitive. With the multi-year programme in place, RNF Racing will be a valuable ally for Aprilia Racing in the immediate future that will lead to the expansion and enhancement of technical and sporting knowledge. _{Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/05/27/withu-rnf-to-become-satellite-team-of-aprilia/421979}

this is a good thing for Aprillia in the next season, now Aprillia has risen very fast. this season they have earned 4 podiums and 1 time Champion, allowing the Aprillia team to be able to get more achievements this season with its flagship driver Aleix Espargaro.
I am very happy to see the developments that are taking place in the Aprillia team in this way the competition in Moto GP is getting fiercer.

[Republikcoin.com]

this is a good thing for Aprillia in the next season, now Aprillia has risen very fast. this season they have earned 4 podiums and 1 time Champion, allowing the Aprillia team to be able to get more achievements this season with its flagship driver Aleix Espargaro.
I am very happy to see the developments that are taking place in the Aprillia team in this way the competition in Moto GP is getting fiercer.

I think it's also very clear that from yesterday and today when FP1, FP2 and FP3 Aprilia was always in 1st and 2nd place, it means that Aprilia is in very good condition, especially with Aleix Espargaro who looks increasingly competitive and always competes in front of the team. when the race progressed and Aleix Espargaro's points in the standings while also not so far from the current leader of the standings that he became a big threat to everyone now.

[velive08]

this is a good thing for Aprillia in the next season, now Aprillia has risen very fast. this season they have earned 4 podiums and 1 time Champion, allowing the Aprillia team to be able to get more achievements this season with its flagship driver Aleix Espargaro.
I am very happy to see the developments that are taking place in the Aprillia team in this way the competition in Moto GP is getting fiercer.

I think it's also very clear that from yesterday and today when FP1, FP2 and FP3 Aprilia was always in 1st and 2nd place, it means that Aprilia is in very good condition, especially with Aleix Espargaro who looks increasingly competitive and always competes in front of the team. when the race progressed and Aleix Espargaro's points in the standings while also not so far from the current leader of the standings that he became a big threat to everyone now.

Aleix Espargaro has adapted very well to the bike he is riding, he has been very consistent this season and even now in the FP race this weekend he is getting a very good feeling by continuing to be consistent, in a few moments there will be qualifying and it is very likely I think Aleix Espargaro will be able to be in the middle row.
this season has been a big revival for the Aprillia team, they have played consistently this season to stay in the middle row and compete for the podium.

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Aleix Espargaro has adapted very well to the bike he is riding, he has been very consistent this season and even now in the FP race this weekend he is getting a very good feeling by continuing to be consistent, in a few moments there will be qualifying and it is very likely I think Aleix Espargaro will be able to be in the middle row.
this season has been a big revival for the Aprillia team, they have played consistently this season to stay in the middle row and compete for the podium.

It is undeniable that the adaptation of Aleix Espargaro to the Aprilia Bike is now very big and good, but unfortunately it is too late for him because he has been on the Aprilia for a very long time, but only this year he is developing very well and of course it is very interesting to play. this year's championship because previously Aprilia had never been in front to compete.

[coinlocket$]

Qualifying time right now.

Ferrari so far is the fastest car, can RBR compete on this track?

Quite surprising Russel is in 3rd position.

[Luzin]

Tomorrow we return to Italy, Autodromo Internazionale del Mugello. Looking at the qualifying results I was quite surprised, there was a new name starting from number 1 and it was still unfamiliar.  Here are the top 5 qualifying results
   
1. F. Di Giannantonio
2. M. Bezzecchi
3. L. Marini
4. J. Zarco
5. F. Bagnaia

If you look at their motorcycles one factory. It corresponds to the character of the fast circuit. Ducati is in the top 5.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/gp-results/2022/ITA/MotoGP/Q2/Classification

[swogerino]

It is pole for Leclerc after Sainz screwing up in the last lap of the qualifying and blaming the commissars for bringing the yellow flags late which wasn't at all the case.Really bad performance by Redbull and at a slow speed like this Ferrari is absolutely the best car.However the win is not guaranteed for Leclerc as the race conditions will not be that normal and judging by the qualifying it will be a race in which the Safety Car will absolutely be present not only just one time.A lot to change during the race I think.

[tokeweed]

Leclerc is quick.  And so is Perez in that Red Bull.  It looks like he has a chip on his shoulder and something to prove after the team order in Barcelona.  Lol.  And looks like I'm wrong.  Verstappen wasn't sand bagging.  He is slow..  But even slower than Perez?  

But yeah..  I don't think the grid would've changed much even if Perez didn't hit the barrier and with Sainz hitting him.  And there's high chance of rain tomorrow.

Here are the results...

2022 F1 Monaco GP Qualifying Results

1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m12.569s   1m11.864s   1m11.376s
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m12.616s   1m12.074s   1m11.601s
3   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m13.004s   1m11.954s   1m11.629s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m12.993s   1m12.117s   1m11.666s
5   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m12.927s   1m12.266s   1m11.849s
6   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m12.787s   1m12.617s   1m12.112s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m13.394s   1m12.668s   1m12.247s
8   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m13.444s   1m12.595s   1m12.560s
9   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m13.313s   1m12.613s   1m12.732s
10   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m12.848s   1m12.528s   1m13.047s
11   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m13.110s   1m12.797s   
12   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m13.541s   1m12.909s   
13   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m13.069s   1m12.921s   
14   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m13.338s   1m12.964s   
15   Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   1m13.469s   1m13.081s   
16   Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m13.611s       
17   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m13.660s       
18   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m13.678s       
19   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m14.403s       
20   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m15.606s       

[LGD2Business]

I hope this time there will be no one who doesn't complete the race due to a car malfunction. The fact that the leader is out of the race due to such a malfunction really kills the excitement. Have a nice and clean race. Accidents can happen, it's in the nature of racing, but the mechanical failure is really annoying for the spectators. Again, it looks like a race between Ferrari and RBR. Mercedes is behind this year, they need to improve the car. McLaren isn't bad either, but their chances of finishing first in any race is very slim this year.

[Cnut237]

Leclerc is quick.  And so is Perez in that Red Bull.  It looks like he has a chip on his shoulder and something to prove after the team order in Barcelona.  Lol.  And looks like I'm wrong.  Verstappen wasn't sand bagging.  He is slow..  But even slower than Perez?  

But yeah..  I don't think the grid would've changed much even if Perez didn't hit the barrier and with Sainz hitting him.  And there's high chance of rain tomorrow.

If Max doesn't overtake Perez at the start, then RB will tell Perez to get out of the way again, or else offset their pit stops so Max gets ahead. The big issue for Max is Sainz. If we assume Leclerc gets away ahead, then Sainz will inevitably lose time on him, and slow the Red Bulls behind him... which should mean a comfortable victory for Leclerc.

The big unknown really is who gets lucky with the timing of the inevitable safety cars... which becomes even more important if rain is due.

[BitcoinAccepted]

Leclerc looked good today, but we have to keep in mind that Verstappen couldn't put down his last time because there were 2 cars on the road that then blocked the road. Monaco is a very tight circuit, it is almost impossible to overtake others. Whoever is allowed to start from Pole, in principle only has to make no mistakes and drive fast. You hardly have to confront the numbers 2 and 3 because they can't come close. At the start tomorrow something is possible, Leclerc could lose his lead there.

[wiss19]

I am sure that Max will be biting the ear of Perez until tomorrow. It is not going to be that good for them, Max will be starting at fourth, that is not really a good start specially in Monaco. The horrible thing is, Sainz could just race slowly and not let anyone pass, since it is a small track, he could keep others from passing him very easily, which means that he could allow Charles to go ahead for a long time without any trouble.

By the time Sainz could ever be passed (which may never happen) I am sure that Charles will be already 20-30+ seconds ahead. This would be screwed of course if Max somehow gets ahead of Sainz but I am not seeing that happening at all.

[swogerino]

Leclerc is quick.  And so is Perez in that Red Bull.  It looks like he has a chip on his shoulder and something to prove after the team order in Barcelona.  Lol.  And looks like I'm wrong.  Verstappen wasn't sand bagging.  He is slow..  But even slower than Perez?  

But yeah..  I don't think the grid would've changed much even if Perez didn't hit the barrier and with Sainz hitting him.  And there's high chance of rain tomorrow.

If Max doesn't overtake Perez at the start, then RB will tell Perez to get out of the way again, or else offset their pit stops so Max gets ahead. The big issue for Max is Sainz. If we assume Leclerc gets away ahead, then Sainz will inevitably lose time on him, and slow the Red Bulls behind him... which should mean a comfortable victory for Leclerc.

The big unknown really is who gets lucky with the timing of the inevitable safety cars... which becomes even more important if rain is due.

Sainz most probably would get team orders to not attack Leclerc at the first corner.If the above scenario happens and yes in theory it means a comfortable victory for Leclerc which he greatly needs the unknowns here are really a lot,a simple incident even from the last car that is running for nothing in 20th place can make a lot of changes to the race,the rain can make it even more difficult to drive and conditions may deteriorate which can change a lot and even some outsider can win in these conditions,heavy rain if he and his team make the right choice at the right time.

Taking into consideration a normal race it is a sure win for Leclerc.