Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM.....

[jakdanyel]

I wonder how many more times the race is going to restart.    Mick Schumacher's accident was really terrifying by the way but I'm glad that there is no problem with Schumacher. Ferrari made a really huge mistake by changing their mind in the last moment and causing Leclerc to enter pit once more in a short time. He was leading the race comfortably but now he is suddenly at the fourth position. This has been a really unfortunate race for Leclerc and there is not a long period ahead until the end of the race. I wonder if he will be on podium at least.

[1714960687]

1714960687

[1714960687]

1714960687

[LGD2Business]

It's the most boring race I've ever watched. They didn't start the race first because it rained a little. We waited for minutes. Then there was an accident and they stopped the race. The race will not be completed in normal time. This is a big scandal. FIA has been making silly decisions lately and alienating people from this sport. There is no excitement left in the race. This track is not exciting enough anyway, and it becomes unwatchable after these decisions.

[tokeweed]

Edit:  Wtf just happened?  Just heard Leclerc just yelled on the radio.

That was completely Sainz's mistake, he denied the call when they did and Charles lost his window.

Nothing they can do.

Yeah...  It was confusing to know what really happened there.  I thought Leclerc was yelling to his team because of the iffy call to box then a second later telling him to stay out.  By the time the team told him to stay out, Leclerc was already in the pit lane on his way in.  Lol.

Here are the results...  Great result for Perez sliding in there to win the race.  Another lucky break for Red Bull once again.  Right when Ferrari has the answer to Red Bull's pace.  Can't wait for the next one.

2022 F1 Monaco GP Race Results

1   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   
2   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   + 1.154s
3   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   + 1.491s
4   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   + 2.922s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 11.968s
6   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   + 12.231s
7   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 46.358s
8   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   + 50.388s
9   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 52.525s
10   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 53.536s
11   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 54.289s
12   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   + 55.644s
13   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   + 57.635s
14   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   + 60.802s
15   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   + 1 Lap
16   Guanyu Zhou   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   + 1 Lap
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri   + 1 Lap
    Alexander Albon   THA   Williams Racing   DNF
    Mick Schumacher   GER   Haas F1 Team   DNF
    Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   DNF

Damn.  It must hurt watching the podium celebration.

[Koal-84]

Very well done by Perez, but it's their own fault that Ferrari didn't win. Leclerc can in no way be satisfied, if the race had not been in Monaco Perez could not have won with his already very bad tires, but so Perez has saved the victory to the finish. Congratulations to Perez.

[swogerino]

Edit:  Wtf just happened?  Just heard Leclerc just yelled on the radio.

That was completely Sainz's mistake, he denied the call when they did and Charles lost his window.

Nothing they can do.

They needed to tell him stay out before he entered the first turn into the pitlane,after that everything was worthless.It was a big mistake from the team management,they were some what messy and did not behave like they should,Leclerc had all the right in this world to yell but not that little as he did,if I were at his place I don't know for how many minutes the yell would continue.

Congrats to Perez for winning the race and Lando Norris for the fastest lap,Perez did a good job in the last laps as he was suffering with the tires but in this track it is easy to get by.

[CLS63]

First of all, I'd like to congratulate Perez. I assume that nobody among us was waiting for Perez to win this race. Ferrari pit crew made the biggest mistake they could in Monaco and lost the advantage on track to Red Bull. Even though Perez's tires wore out in the last moments of the race, Sainz still wasn't able to overtake him. If this race was on some other track, it wouldn't be a big deal for Sainz to win this race.

[coinlocket$]

They needed to tell him stay out before he entered the first turn into the pitlane,after that everything was worthless.It was a big mistake from the team management,they were some what messy and did not behave like they should,Leclerc had all the right in this world to yell but not that little as he did,if I were at his place I don't know for how many minutes the yell would continue.

Congrats to Perez for winning the race and Lando Norris for the fastest lap,Perez did a good job in the last laps as he was suffering with the tires but in this track it is easy to get by.

Was even worse if he was staying out 1 more lap with Perez 7 seconds for a lap faster than him.

If Sainz went in when they called him 3 laps before then, Verstappen needed to pit earlier and Leclerc too.

[xzone]

It was an interesting race, it was a bit boring, but we were very excited about the accident we watched. I am glad that Mick Schumacher did not suffer any injuries after the accident, I think of Michael Schumacher in every accident he does. I hope we don't see a more serious accident.
I think Ferrari made a big mistake. It was a race they could win, but they have serious problems with the pitstop

[Jackl87]

Very well done by Perez, but it's their own fault that Ferrari didn't win. Leclerc can in no way be satisfied, if the race had not been in Monaco Perez could not have won with his already very bad tires, but so Perez has saved the victory to the finish. Congratulations to Perez.

First of all i am happy that the Monaco race weekend is over because usually this is the most boring race in the whole season and i don#t know why the Formula 1 is still marketing this one as the biggest race of the year. Just because there are a lot of celebrities around? No one really cares about that. To the race itself i have to say that i feel really sad for Leclerc today even though i am usually not a big Leclerc fan, but today he would have totally deserved to win the race at his hometown. He totally dominated the whole weekend and he also was the fastest driver in the beginning of the race. That Ferrari made such a big mistake with the pit stop strategy is really a shame and the only reason why Leclerc did not win today.

[LTU_btc]

Only Ferrari can screw up things in such way like they did today. They had everything in their hands. It's incredible what bad luck Leclerc have at Monaco.
After this win Perez is close to Verstappen and Leclerc, just few points behind. Every driver dreams to win in Monaco and he did it. In the end his tyres almost ended, but for his fortune, it's Monaco where it's impossible to overtake.
But things still can change - Ferrari made protest about Perez and Vertappen crossing line on pit exit.
Mick Shumacher id another very expensive crash for Haas. It probably looked more scary than it actually was just because car break into two parts.
After all, I still don't understand why race has been delayed for more than hour when rain ended and basically they were waiting for track to get dry. Yeah, it's all about safet, but shortly after rain track didn't looked very wet and impossible to race.

[Distraction]

I was really unhappy after I saw Ferrari's big mistake there. I really wonder why the team decided to have Sainz and Leclerc in pit at the same for no reason. Leclerc was already in pit and they just said to him to stay out.    It was really ridiculous I mean. After this simple and important mistake, Red Bull captured a huge advantage as it was like a gift for them. I must admit that Perez had a superb race and deserved the victory too. Maybe this scenario would have been much more different than this if it wasn't the Monaco GP. However I wouldn't like to overlook his performance of course. Leclerc had a very unlucky day and finished the race even out of podium.

[coinlocket$]

But things still can change - Ferrari made protest about Perez and Vertappen crossing line on pit exit.

Well they were right but RBR is protected by the F1, both drivers deserved a penalty for that.

[FanEagle]

Monaco is really not a great place to race. I get that there is a historic reason why we still have races here, and financially it is good, considering that F1 continued to race after a bombing in Saudi Arabia, I am sure that they would be fine with Monaco not being that great track at all, if a bomb doesn't make you leave, a bad track wouldn't make you even consider leaving.

All in all I hope that F1 gets enough money eventually, this sport is not at the peak performance right now because it is not profitable, everyone involved keeps losing money and because of that we have to put up with terrible races like these that doesn't provide any fun at all to the viewer.

[AndySt]

Monaco is really not a great place to race. I get that there is a historic reason why we still have races here, and financially it is good, considering that F1 continued to race after a bombing in Saudi Arabia, I am sure that they would be fine with Monaco not being that great track at all, if a bomb doesn't make you leave, a bad track wouldn't make you even consider leaving. All in all I hope that F1 gets enough money eventually, this sport is not at the peak performance right now because it is not profitable, everyone involved keeps losing money and because of that we have to put up with terrible races like these that doesn't provide any fun at all to the viewer.

Well, actually, there are different ideas on this score and many current Formula 1 drivers, on the contrary, would like the races to continue to be held in Monaco. History is still a great thing and many would like to go down in history by winning these races. Although of course I agree that this is not the most beautiful place for beautiful overtaking and in many cases the place occupied during qualifying is very important, because then during the race it is very difficult to win back positions. Therefore, the main hope is for weather conditions like this time, when rain can mix up all the cards and bring intrigue to the location of racers who are forced to change their tires suitable for weather conditions.

[Davian144]

Now really Bezzechi leads and behind him Bagnaia, Fabio is in third place he holds very well against the Ducatis but on the straights he is fodder.

But in the end Bagnaia was able to lead the race and win there with Quartararo as runner-up followed by Aleix Espargaro from Aprilia after struggling hard against several Ducati bikes that were previously in front of him.

Too bad both Suzukis are out, very sad the two riders want to push too much for the sake of new contract possibly, the places are very rare after the exit of Suzuki ...

It's a shame for the Suzuki factory where they again suffered the same fate as at Le Mans so that they have gone home twice without bringing any points.

[swogerino]

Monaco is really not a great place to race. I get that there is a historic reason why we still have races here, and financially it is good, considering that F1 continued to race after a bombing in Saudi Arabia, I am sure that they would be fine with Monaco not being that great track at all, if a bomb doesn't make you leave, a bad track wouldn't make you even consider leaving.

All in all I hope that F1 gets enough money eventually, this sport is not at the peak performance right now because it is not profitable, everyone involved keeps losing money and because of that we have to put up with terrible races like these that doesn't provide any fun at all to the viewer.

They could also have started the race a bit earlier to make it a bit more entertaining,meaning that the track would not have been dry so quickly especially in city road tracks which to become dry takes a bit more time than in other tracks.They started the race at least 40 minutes after the rain ended in large part of the tracks.When they were doing so I was thinking myself that maybe they want to favor Leclerc as he is the home pilot here and also give him a boost in the Championship standings.

[Koal-84]

But in the end Bagnaia was able to lead the race and win there with Quartararo as runner-up followed by Aleix Espargaro from Aprilia after struggling hard against several Ducati bikes that were previously in front of him.

It's a shame for the Suzuki factory where they again suffered the same fate as at Le Mans so that they have gone home twice without bringing any points.

I was surprised that Fabio was able to keep up with the Yamaha, on ServusTV it was assumed that the Ducatis had to go back a bit in terms of engine performance because of fuel consumption, the Ducati is more powerful than the other manufacturers, but therefore also consumes more fuel.

I think it's Suzuki's own fault too, because they put pressure on the riders themselves by pulling out so quickly and unexpectedly, and the riders are certainly depressed by the sudden decision.

[Cnut237]

First of all, I'd like to congratulate Perez. I assume that nobody among us was waiting for Perez to win this race. Ferrari pit crew made the biggest mistake they could in Monaco and lost the advantage on track to Red Bull. Even though Perez's tires wore out in the last moments of the race, Sainz still wasn't able to overtake him. If this race was on some other track, it wouldn't be a big deal for Sainz to win this race.

I think we did all expect Leclerc to win, until Ferrari messed up on strategy. But Perez does seem to be improving. He would have won the last race if RB hadn't ordered him to move aside to let Max win. I assume they would have done the same again here to deny Perez again, but fortunately for him he had Sainz in the way to prevent Max getting any more undeserved gifts!

[Fakhrulenclix]

But in the end Bagnaia was able to lead the race and win there with Quartararo as runner-up followed by Aleix Espargaro from Aprilia after struggling hard against several Ducati bikes that were previously in front of him.

It's a shame for the Suzuki factory where they again suffered the same fate as at Le Mans so that they have gone home twice without bringing any points.

I was surprised that Fabio was able to keep up with the Yamaha, on ServusTV it was assumed that the Ducatis had to go back a bit in terms of engine performance because of fuel consumption, the Ducati is more powerful than the other manufacturers, but therefore also consumes more fuel.

I think it's Suzuki's own fault too, because they put pressure on the riders themselves by pulling out so quickly and unexpectedly, and the riders are certainly depressed by the sudden decision.

Bagnaia is indeed very seeded in the Mugello race. and he proved to be able to be dominant compared to other racers.
but i highlight the performance of aleix espargaro who was able to get back on the podium in a row, that's a very extraordinary thing to get with the Aprillia team, this season Aprillia is growing very fast.

Regarding the 2 Suzuki riders who failed to finish in the last two races, I also think so, because next season Suzuki is no longer in Moto GP making them burdened to give their best performance in order to get a new team next season, because that pressure makes them push their bike too much. until a crash occurs.

[Davian144]

I was surprised that Fabio was able to keep up with the Yamaha, on ServusTV it was assumed that the Ducatis had to go back a bit in terms of engine performance because of fuel consumption, the Ducati is more powerful than the other manufacturers, but therefore also consumes more fuel.

As for the Ducati engine power problem, it can't be denied by anyone. Because Ducati does have very large power and is very fast on a straight track so it is true as you say that Ducati's own fuel consumption is getting bigger and if that wasn't a problem, then all Ducati motorbikes would be in front of every grandprix race.

I think it's Suzuki's own fault too, because they put pressure on the riders themselves by pulling out so quickly and unexpectedly, and the riders are certainly depressed by the sudden decision.

It is also very true that both Suzuki riders are currently very depressed about their futures although there are some rumors circulating right now that there are several other teams that are eyeing them at the moment.