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[Nasuhalugu]

I was surprised that Fabio was able to keep up with the Yamaha, on ServusTV it was assumed that the Ducatis had to go back a bit in terms of engine performance because of fuel consumption, the Ducati is more powerful than the other manufacturers, but therefore also consumes more fuel.

As for the Ducati engine power problem, it can't be denied by anyone. Because Ducati does have very large power and is very fast on a straight track so it is true as you say that Ducati's own fuel consumption is getting bigger and if that wasn't a problem, then all Ducati motorbikes would be in front of every grandprix race.

In the Italian MotoGP race which took place yesterday, it was seen when a fast race on a straight track the Ducati Bagnaia motorbike easily overtook the position of the Yamaha Quartararo motorbike.
Quartararo's prowess must also be recognized in yesterday's race because he was able to cut the GAP time with Pecco when cornering several times. But as you said the Ducati power is incredible.

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Marc Marquez to undergo further surgery on right humerus

Marc Marquez will undergo a fourth surgery on his right humerus, heading to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. The Repsol Honda Team rider has suffered major limitations in recent months that have prevented him from performing at the highest level. As a result, he has elected to undergo surgery 18 months after his last operation.

Marquez, having not felt significant improvements in recent months and consulting with other specialists, together with his medical team have considered the option of a new operation. The six-time MotoGP™ World Champion will travel to the United States on Tuesday, May 31 for surgery, under the direction of Dr Joaquin Sanchez Sotelo. Once the postoperative period has been completed, he will return to Spain to begin his recovery. Doctors will then assess Marquez’s condition and his recovery period.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/05/28/marc-marquez-to-undergo-further-surgery-on-right-humerus/422803?utm

[wmaurik]

Marc Marquez to undergo further surgery on right humerus

Marc Marquez will undergo a fourth surgery on his right humerus, heading to the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. The Repsol Honda Team rider has suffered major limitations in recent months that have prevented him from performing at the highest level. As a result, he has elected to undergo surgery 18 months after his last operation.

Marquez, having not felt significant improvements in recent months and consulting with other specialists, together with his medical team have considered the option of a new operation. The six-time MotoGP™ World Champion will travel to the United States on Tuesday, May 31 for surgery, under the direction of Dr Joaquin Sanchez Sotelo. Once the postoperative period has been completed, he will return to Spain to begin his recovery. Doctors will then assess Marquez’s condition and his recovery period.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/05/28/marc-marquez-to-undergo-further-surgery-on-right-humerus/422803?utm

it's better in my opinion, even if it continues to be forced to play full for the rest of the race this season, Marc Marquez can't compete optimally.
Marc Marquez this season has been very down, he has never gotten a podium once and it proves that Marc Marquez has not fully recovered and returned to his best form.
I hope that after undergoing surgery Marc Marquez can be optimal and competitive again to compete in the front row.

[bestcoins1]

it's better in my opinion, even if it continues to be forced to play full for the rest of the race this season, Marc Marquez can't compete optimally.
Marc Marquez this season has been very down, he has never gotten a podium once and it proves that Marc Marquez has not fully recovered and returned to his best form.
I hope that after undergoing surgery Marc Marquez can be optimal and competitive again to compete in the front row.

After undergoing surgery Marc Marquez is also still not sure to be able to return to his best performance because considering the Honda motorbike he is currently riding is very different from the Honda motorbike that Marc Marquez has ridden before so Marc Marquez still needs adaptation again to tame the new Honda motorbike. after returning from surgery.

[Roman_Picisan]

it's better in my opinion, even if it continues to be forced to play full for the rest of the race this season, Marc Marquez can't compete optimally.
Marc Marquez this season has been very down, he has never gotten a podium once and it proves that Marc Marquez has not fully recovered and returned to his best form.
I hope that after undergoing surgery Marc Marquez can be optimal and competitive again to compete in the front row.

today's defeat is a delayed victory, after this operation he will go crazy by returning to being a baby alien, even though he had previously announced that he would retire in 2024 before this operation would be the culmination of the opposite.

[LTU_btc]

I think we did all expect Leclerc to win, until Ferrari messed up on strategy. But Perez does seem to be improving. He would have won the last race if RB hadn't ordered him to move aside to let Max win. I assume they would have done the same again here to deny Perez again, but fortunately for him he had Sainz in the way to prevent Max getting any more undeserved gifts!

Nope, we wouldn't have won previous race. Max had fresh tyres and much bigger pace, so, even without letting Max to pass, he had no chance to keep him behind.
But yeah, I'm happy to see Perez win. Now Horner said that Perez is fighting for champion title too, but for me it's difficult to believe in his words.

Well they were right but RBR is protected by the F1, both drivers deserved a penalty for that.

And both protests were rejected.

[Captain Corporate]

I am not entirely sure if pit exit situation deserves a big penalty at all, it seems like it was weather related and not defensive reasons. Consider it this way, if they didn't do that, would they lose positions or not? If your answer is "yes they would have lost positions" then they deserved a penalty, but if your answer is "no they wouldn't but thats still against the rules" then why would doing something which will impact absolutely nothing, end up causing a penalty that would end up something? I believe it wouldn't really change the positions at all, and that is why no penalty decision was a fair one for sure.

[FanEagle]

Honestly, everyone talks about the mistake Ferrari Pit team made and I agree that it was a horrible mistake. But between telling him to stay out (just a bit too late) and seeing how nothing was ordinary for this race, I have to say that it may have been normal for them to make some mistakes at least. I mean yes, it cost them the race but what a race it was, it was definitely not an ordinary race and that is why I understand that they may have made some mistakes.

You can't really calculate such a race, it is very hard, they didn't know when slicks should be on, and this caused them to make some mistakes and that is totally understandable, I believe they will learn something from this at least.

[AndySt]

I think we did all expect Leclerc to win, until Ferrari messed up on strategy. But Perez does seem to be improving. He would have won the last race if RB hadn't ordered him to move aside to let Max win. I assume they would have done the same again here to deny Perez again, but fortunately for him he had Sainz in the way to prevent Max getting any more undeserved gifts!

Nope, we wouldn't have won previous race. Max had fresh tyres and much bigger pace, so, even without letting Max to pass, he had no chance to keep him behind. But yeah, I'm happy to see Perez win. Now Horner said that Perez is fighting for champion title too, but for me it's difficult to believe in his words.

Well they were right but RBR is protected by the F1, both drivers deserved a penalty for that.

And both protests were rejected.

In any case, the team will bet on Verstappen for the time being, because no one is interested in Max losing precious points due to an internal team struggle with a partner. Points that may not be enough at the finish of the season. Another thing is when Perez will constantly show better results than Verstappen, then there will be completely different priorities. But I think that this is still far away and Max can still be calm about his status in the team. And no one should be deceived by the words of the head of Red Bull, Christian Horner, that the team does not use team tactics in favor of Verstappen.

[swogerino]

Honestly, everyone talks about the mistake Ferrari Pit team made and I agree that it was a horrible mistake. But between telling him to stay out (just a bit too late) and seeing how nothing was ordinary for this race, I have to say that it may have been normal for them to make some mistakes at least. I mean yes, it cost them the race but what a race it was, it was definitely not an ordinary race and that is why I understand that they may have made some mistakes.

You can't really calculate such a race, it is very hard, they didn't know when slicks should be on, and this caused them to make some mistakes and that is totally understandable, I believe they will learn something from this at least.

It is true that you can't calculate the race but at least they needed to have their full focus on Leclerc first and then Sainz because is Leclerc that is fighting for the Championship and not Sainz.I think they misjudged their time and it cost them a race that they had in their pocket,as I said this mistake,a huge one can cost them the Championship in the end if they happen to lose the Championship for just a few points less than the Champion of the season,that would be truly a disaster.

[Cnut237]

Horner said that Perez is fighting for champion title too, but for me it's difficult to believe in his words.

Yes, that's absurd. It's only a week ago that RB made Perez move aside for Max! I think with those words he's just trying to placate Perez who is no doubt still angry about last time.
Unless the statement actually means that Perez is fighting Horner to be allowed to compete for the championship? That's more believable! 

And no one should be deceived by the words of the head of Red Bull, Christian Horner, that the team does not use team tactics in favor of Verstappen.

I don't think anyone in the world would believe that they don't favour Verstappen. It's understandable of course if they are fighting another team for the title, it makes sense to ensure that one of your drivers maximises points every time... but at least have the courage to admit it instead of coming out with what is an utterly transparent lie!

[Davian144]

In the Italian MotoGP race which took place yesterday, it was seen when a fast race on a straight track the Ducati Bagnaia motorbike easily overtook the position of the Yamaha Quartararo motorbike.

That's a very natural thing to happen because Ducati has very high power in the MotoGP grid and also helped by the Mugello straight track which is very long so Bagnaia was able to take advantage of these two things to win there because last year Bagnaia did not win the race at Mugello due to Crash.

Quartararo's prowess must also be recognized in yesterday's race because he was able to cut the GAP time with Pecco when cornering several times. But as you said the Ducati power is incredible.

Quartararo only took advantage of a few corners that he liked to chase his opponent and away from the Ducati riders, but unfortunately he didn't have enough power to get the win there (Mugello), and second place for Quartararo was very much deserved considering it was still could help him to maintain himself at the top of the standings temporarily.

[Fakhrulenclix]

it's better in my opinion, even if it continues to be forced to play full for the rest of the race this season, Marc Marquez can't compete optimally.
Marc Marquez this season has been very down, he has never gotten a podium once and it proves that Marc Marquez has not fully recovered and returned to his best form.
I hope that after undergoing surgery Marc Marquez can be optimal and competitive again to compete in the front row.

today's defeat is a delayed victory, after this operation he will go crazy by returning to being a baby alien, even though he had previously announced that he would retire in 2024 before this operation would be the culmination of the opposite.

I don't think so, quite the opposite. After undergoing surgery it will be very difficult for Marc to return to his best form. especially if he is going to get a long rest really it will be more difficult.
Moto gp racers will not be able to return to their best performance after suffering a serious injury, it has been proven since ancient times and Marc Marquez is also experiencing it today. he has slumped in the last 2 seasons, at the age of 30 I think Marc Marquez will not return to the way he used to be, who was able to dominate and was nicknamed "baby alien"
Marquez era has ended. now we will be greeted by the charming appearance of the young racers.

[wmaurik]

Quartararo only took advantage of a few corners that he liked to chase his opponent and away from the Ducati riders, but unfortunately he didn't have enough power to get the win there (Mugello), and second place for Quartararo was very much deserved considering it was still could help him to maintain himself at the top of the standings temporarily.

Quartararo won the Mugello series last year, this proves that he can be strong at this circuit but it is true that the many straights are very advantageous for Bagnaia who rides an above average speed Ducati. but what Quartararo has done to reach podium 2 is extraordinary. it's just a matter of losing motor speed, not Quartararo skill.
Quartararo still standing at the top of the standings is inseparable from his consistency in each series, I think he is a strong candidate to become world champion again in 2022.

[DukeNickle]

The competition level is getting higher and higher by every race in Formula 1 now. Verstappen has already managed to get past Leclerc in the driver standings by nine points if I'm not mistaken. Perez has also joined the race for the championship also by his great victory in the Monaco GP. Ferrari drivers started to stumble recently and it costs them big. Sainz was great in the last race but Leclerc had a very unlucky race because of a bad team call. Leclerc shouldn't have pitted at the same time with Sainz there. We also heard how angry Leclerc was with his team.

[sana54210]

The competition level is getting higher and higher by every race in Formula 1 now. Verstappen has already managed to get past Leclerc in the driver standings by nine points if I'm not mistaken. Perez has also joined the race for the championship also by his great victory in the Monaco GP. Ferrari drivers started to stumble recently and it costs them big. Sainz was great in the last race but Leclerc had a very unlucky race because of a bad team call. Leclerc shouldn't have pitted at the same time with Sainz there. We also heard how angry Leclerc was with his team.

The great thing is, Max passed Charles and didn't finish two races, he would have been much more ahead if he finished those races, I am not even saying if he won, if he was second or even third he would have been ahead a lot more points. All in all both teams are struggling with these new cars.

We have seen teams keep having trouble at the start of the season, but now we are seeing stuff that are smaller, it is not like the first races where it was obvious big differences, but they are usually smaller stuff that decide the race winner by an inch. So all in all I have to say that it is not going to be an easy task to beat RB but RB could end up failing as well.

[Zackgeno96]

Leclerc who was furious at the onboard radio. They had him come in for a pit stop while his teammate was already there at the time. Then he had to drive back into the field but by that time he was already in the pits. Those were very important seconds. What strikes me most is that Red Bull's management and strategy have been excellent every time and Mercedes and Ferrari are always far behind. Max is in the lead in the world championship and has made an excellent recovery.

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And both protests were rejected.

Yes, but it doesn't make it different from what happened.

Both Redbull broke a rule and as I understand they "changed" the regulation for the occasion, a bit like they did last year by giving the title to Max by "inventing" a change to the rule.

[Luzin]

it's better in my opinion, even if it continues to be forced to play full for the rest of the race this season, Marc Marquez can't compete optimally.
Marc Marquez this season has been very down, he has never gotten a podium once and it proves that Marc Marquez has not fully recovered and returned to his best form.
I hope that after undergoing surgery Marc Marquez can be optimal and competitive again to compete in the front row.

How many times did Marquez crash and have to miss a race due to injury? It seems to be more than twice. CMIIW.
Honda should have conducted an investigation and provided repairs. Repairs were made to the motor or how Marquez handled the motor? If it is not done then it will continue to happen, then it is possible that Marquez's whole body will have a lot of traces of knife incisions and stitches from doctors. Granted this race was risky but it looked like Marquez crashed too many times, so maybe he could have retired earlier. If that happens then it's very sad.

[Velvet78]

The next Grand Prix is going to be another street race which is in Azerbaijan. It has a wider track than the Monaco Grand Prix which gives the drivers a bigger advantage. I hope to watch an exciting race there hopefully because the Monaco Grand Prix was very boring. There is a nice rivalry between three drivers for the championship currently. I will wait for Leclerc to have a much better race this time. He should be able to win this time to improve his morale after this having a poor race. By the way, Russell is still very consistent as he finished another race in top 5.