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[Distraction]

I think Miami track isn't the best place for Sprint race. It was nice to see him defending 4th place, but I think that he would stand no chance for such achievement in track like Monza.

I completely agree. This track definitely doesn't fit a sprint. It is so difficult to see overtakes. That was how Ricciardo kept the 4th place until the end. Sainz was right behind him all the time but he couldn't find a chance to go for a proper attack. There wasn't any sprint event in Miami last season and it should have stayed that way. 


When it comes to the qualifying session Q3 was thrilling except the last moments. None of the drivers at top managed to use their last chance effectively. It was still nice to see Leclerc and Sainz capturing places in top 3.

I hope Ferrari have a good pace in the race also tonight. Perez is likely to make serious difficulties for them but we will see. The start could be a chaotic one though.    It wouldn't be surprising to see another incident similar to the one in the sprint.

[swogerino]

Once again Max did the fastest lap and got the poleposition.
Ferrari was very close but in the second attemp something happened to the track and it was more slippery infact not a single driver improved their timer with the new red tires.

Only Hamilton improved with harder tired, he did his fastest lap with the yellow tyres over the the red tyres.

This means that the strategy will play a big role during today race and I hope Ferrari does not screw up like they have done several times when there is to gain they have gotten and lost points,I believe honestly much more in the drivers of Ferrari rather than the management there.The fact that Ferrari was so much near Verstappen with these partly upgrades they have done to their car makes me think that it won't be so easy for Verstappen and adding the uncertainty that some of the tires bring it is going hopefully to be a good one to watch,usually this has been a boring track but let's hope things changes exactly because of the slippery and tire behavior.

[Pulsar77]

Once again Max did the fastest lap and got the poleposition.
Ferrari was very close but in the second attemp something happened to the track and it was more slippery infact not a single driver improved their timer with the new red tires.

Only Hamilton improved with harder tired, he did his fastest lap with the yellow tyres over the the red tyres.

Verstappen doesn't surprise us as usual.    One-lap timing is the best thing Ferrari is at normally but it is still very difficult to beat Verstappen's time. Leclerc was able to beat his time quite often in the 2022 season. He got like 9 pole positions. But this dropped by half in the 2023 season. Now I don't even know if we will see Leclerc getting that many poles.

Ferrari has lost quite much power even in qualifying. They should start with gaining more speed here and later they can improve their race pace much more as well. 

[alegotardo]

Once again Max did the fastest lap and got the poleposition.
Ferrari was very close but in the second attemp something happened to the track and it was more slippery infact not a single driver improved their timer with the new red tires.

Only Hamilton improved with harder tired, he did his fastest lap with the yellow tyres over the the red tyres.

Simply incredible... The only holder of pole positions in F1 this year continued again in ABSOLUTE fashion in search of his sixth victory this season. He  recorded a time of 1 minute 27 seconds and 241 milliseconds yesterday, and that was just 0s1 over Charles Leclerc who was in second place.

And speaking about Magnussem... he certainly "breathed a sigh of relief" this weekend when despite receiving three ten-second penalties for exceeding track limits and gaining an undue advantage against Lewis Hamilton, he was acquitted of the charge of unsportsmanlike conduct. Do you believe this punishment should have been maintained?

After the race, Magnussen admitted that the tactic used in Miami had already been employed in Saudi Arabia to benefit his teammate Nico Hulkenberg. The Dane did not contest the penalties, but his comments and the driving itself led to a call from the stewards to analyze the conduct

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Hamilton spoke in an interview a few days ago and spoke about Adrian Newy saying that it would be an honor for him and Ferrari to have him on the team after Redbull.

It would certainly be the lucky hit of the century for Ferrari to have both Hamilton and Adrian on the team at the same time.

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Hamilton spoke in an interview a few days ago and spoke about Adrian Newy saying that it would be an honor for him and Ferrari to have him on the team after Redbull.

It would certainly be the lucky hit of the century for Ferrari to have both Hamilton and Adrian on the team at the same time.

The combination of Hamilton and Newy is the best gift for Ferrari, because as we know, Newey is one of the best engineers in F1 and his masterpieces have brought RB to become the best constructor several times and Hamilton is the holder of the F1 World Drivers' Championship titles 7 times. With this combination, it will not be impossible for Ferrari to achieve the title of best constructor in 2025 and the drivers' championship. Let's hope this combination will happen.

[swogerino]

Hamilton spoke in an interview a few days ago and spoke about Adrian Newy saying that it would be an honor for him and Ferrari to have him on the team after Redbull.

It would certainly be the lucky hit of the century for Ferrari to have both Hamilton and Adrian on the team at the same time.

In the latest interview though Newey at least in the F1 official Instagram page they have a photo of him and the statement in which he says that he does not exclude the possibility of taking a bit of vacation as he said all the work at Redbull,the battle against Mercedes in 2021 has made him a bit tired.Of course I would be happy that Ferrari would have Hamilton next year,as most likely Hamilton with the car that is done 0.150 seconds laps slower from other drivers most likely can be a Pole if Hamilton was driving it and no,no offense to the drivers of Ferrari yet this is what I read,all doubts will be clear in 2025.

[FanEagle]

Verstappen doesn't surprise us as usual.    One-lap timing is the best thing Ferrari is at normally but it is still very difficult to beat Verstappen's time. Leclerc was able to beat his time quite often in the 2022 season. He got like 9 pole positions. But this dropped by half in the 2023 season. Now I don't even know if we will see Leclerc getting that many poles.

Ferrari has lost quite much power even in qualifying. They should start with gaining more speed here and later they can improve their race pace much more as well. 

Basically, the difference between the cars grew as well, this season Perez has been amazing, even last season he wasn't that great, and previous year too, but this season even Perez is second place in many races, or at least gets a lot of overtakes and finishes better than expected. I would assume that even Mclaren is at the level Ferrari is at right now, if Norris wasn't hit at the start of the race we could have seen him finish higher than at least one Ferrari car, maybe both of them.

At the end of the day, we are talking about a team (Ferrari) who is not getting better at all, which is a damn shame but that is the reality. Where Newey will go is the biggest question, will he retire a rich man, or will he continue? If he does, is it possible for Newey to go to Ferrari? A Charles-Hamilton-Newey trio could actually be amazing for Ferrari for sure.

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First win for Lando and deserved.

He was the fastest in the track but without the safety car he was probably unable to win, he gained 2 position only for the timing of the safety, when Carlos and Oscar went to pit 20 seconds before the accident.

Anyway, as I told yestarday Mclaren was able to win this week with the big upgrade.

Next race will be the time of big upgrade for Ferrari.

[retreat]

First win for Lando and deserved.

He was the fastest in the track but without the safety car he was probably unable to win, he gained 2 position only for the timing of the safety, when Carlos and Oscar went to pit 20 seconds before the accident.

Anyway, as I told yestarday Mclaren was able to win this week with the big upgrade.

Next race will be the time of big upgrade for Ferrari.

What a race. Norris really deserves to win the race this time. However, it was very unfortunate for his teammate, Piastri, who had to be in 13th position due to wing problems, even though he was already in a very good position.
And for Ferrari itself, I think the improvements they have made are quite good, because in the last few races they were able to catch up with RB, but they just need to upgrade their car so they can be even better. Hopefully this upgrade can improve the performance of the Ferrari.

[püsür]

First win for Lando and deserved.

He was the fastest in the track but without the safety car he was probably unable to win, he gained 2 position only for the timing of the safety, when Carlos and Oscar went to pit 20 seconds before the accident.

Anyway, as I told yestarday Mclaren was able to win this week with the big upgrade.

Next race will be the time of big upgrade for Ferrari.

It was a very enjoyable race with lando norris finally becoming a grand prix winner. I wish we could see more races like this. We cannot separate the importance of engineering from the sport itself, but I wish all cars were close enough in power that we could feel the difference in piloting. In order to increase the pleasure of watching, it seems that some points should be given to the qualifying rounds and the reverse grid should be applied in order not to completely ignore the engineering. Telling the teams that you will all use the same cars, pilotage is the only criterion now, would be to ignore the engineering that is in motor racing. It is not very correct to say luck. He did not win thanks to the safety car alone. He won the race by opening a gap to max after the safety car. We do not know if there was any damage to max's car due to hitting the pontoon.

[swogerino]

First win for Lando and deserved.

He was the fastest in the track but without the safety car he was probably unable to win, he gained 2 position only for the timing of the safety, when Carlos and Oscar went to pit 20 seconds before the accident.

Anyway, as I told yestarday Mclaren was able to win this week with the big upgrade.

Next race will be the time of big upgrade for Ferrari.

What a race. Norris really deserves to win the race this time. However, it was very unfortunate for his teammate, Piastri, who had to be in 13th position due to wing problems, even though he was already in a very good position.
And for Ferrari itself, I think the improvements they have made are quite good, because in the last few races they were able to catch up with RB, but they just need to upgrade their car so they can be even better. Hopefully this upgrade can improve the performance of the Ferrari.

Talking about upgrades,McLaren had made many upgrades to their car and Lando took them all while Oscar only half of them and even with half of them he was doing really great in the first stints of the race.The best thing this race showed is that Redbull is far from being unbeaten this year,well it took about 20 or more races for someone to beat Verstappen on track without Verstappen making an error or starting from the first row,all other race wins in the previous season come because of some mishap that happened to him so this makes even more value as a race win for Norris who took his first win in the 110th race for McLaren,110 the same number of races Hamilton had with the team.

[tokeweed]

First win for Lando and deserved.

He was the fastest in the track but without the safety car he was probably unable to win, he gained 2 position only for the timing of the safety, when Carlos and Oscar went to pit 20 seconds before the accident.

Anyway, as I told yestarday Mclaren was able to win this week with the big upgrade.

Next race will be the time of big upgrade for Ferrari.

The race I decided not to watch turned out to be interesting.  Lmao.    But yeah, I will surely not miss Emilia Romagna.  If the books again line Verstappen at 1.05 or something, and disrespect Leclerc and Sainz ny lining them at 20 - 30 then I'll def bet on both.  Miami GP showed that it can be done...  That Red Bull could lose at any moment.  If so then why not in Italy too.

Can't wait to watch it!  Can't believe I'm rooting for Ferrari out of boredom for Red Bull. 

[swogerino]

First win for Lando and deserved.

He was the fastest in the track but without the safety car he was probably unable to win, he gained 2 position only for the timing of the safety, when Carlos and Oscar went to pit 20 seconds before the accident.

Anyway, as I told yestarday Mclaren was able to win this week with the big upgrade.

Next race will be the time of big upgrade for Ferrari.

The race I decided not to watch turned out to be interesting.  Lmao.    But yeah, I will surely not miss Emilia Romagna.  If the books again line Verstappen at 1.05 or something, and disrespect Leclerc and Sainz ny lining them at 20 - 30 then I'll def bet on both.  Miami GP showed that it can be done...  That Red Bull could lose at any moment.  If so then why not in Italy too.

Can't wait to watch it!  Can't believe I'm rooting for Ferrari out of boredom for Red Bull. 

I think the car that can beat Redbull is clearly McLaren,they showed it yesterday and although Piastri had only half of the upgrades that Norris got he managed to race brilliantly with the medium tires,the same for Lando,he kept getting to Sainz in a very fast time,in just a couple of laps,that shows that McLaren is doing great.I watched not only the race but also the post interviews in Skysports and Andrea Stella the team principal said that it is incredible work how many upgrades the team at Uoking has been bringing to make the car like it is right now,it is truly incredible work and this race win was well deserved,so based on that I think we are going to watch a beautiful race in Imola too.That 1.05 if is again needs to be betting 1 dollar for top 10 drivers to be a winner.

[Pulsar77]

I wasn't expecting the Miami GP to turn into a really exciting one from a boring race.    McLaren really gambled with Norris' pit and didn't call him early. They were really lucky that a SC came out and it was a golden opportunity for Norris to benefit from. But it wouldn't be fair to say that Norris won thanks to only luck.

That performance was great. Overtaking on this track is really challenging. However Verstappen couldn't even make an attempt to overtake. Norris was that dominant while getting his 1st career win - finally. 

Norris and Verstappen have a really strong friendship. Verstappen was really happy for him on his win.

[FanEagle]

Lando Norris finally with a victory after so many years of racing and getting close so many times as well, even Ricciardo who has been lapped by Norris in the same season, ended up getting a win with that car and Lando never did, which is a shocker to me that he never won even a single race, but that's finally over.

Even Max was super excited and happy about it, of course they are close friends and that is one of the biggest reasons but also Max knows that he is already the winner in the end, so he doesn't feel threat from anyone at all, plus it was some insane luck that Lando lapped the safety car, and was 30+ seconds ahead of everyone, so it was basically clear that we are talking about something that could happen once in a blue moon, but I am super happy for Lando without a doubt.

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Jonathan Wheatley is in the spotlight after Adrian Newy could be next to leave Redbull.

For those who don't know him, he is the sporting director of Redbull.
He is the one who became famous in 2021 for the case of the safety car in the last race that gave the world championship to Max Verstappen.
He should become the team principal of Alpine or Sauber.

[Distraction]

Lando Norris finally with a victory after so many years of racing and getting close so many times as well,

Agreed, finally!    Luck factor was really in it as that safety car changed the course of the race for Norris.

It turns out that Verstappen had an underfloor damage as well after making a mistake at Turn 14. This caused him to lose quite much pace and created even an bigger chance for Norris to go for.



The moment: https://youtu.be/9wiQqcKUahc?si=w_5T4tlpz7OOeqcX&t=144

I'm really happy for Norris on his first win. It was a clean drive. McLaren are also much more competitive this season. I'm looking forward to watching them in Imola next time. But it looks like Ferrari will also bring big upgrades for that Grand Prix so things can get really interesting. 

[joniboini]

Jonathan Wheatley is in the spotlight after Adrian Newy could be next to leave Redbull.

As far as I understood it, his negotiation is still ongoing and he's not confirmed to leave Red Bull right? It seems like there have been tons of rumors surrounding Red Bull team contracts recently, but they managed to extend the contracts of their top technical staff anyway. Some news suggests Red Bull is not panicking at all, though you can say this is just lip service or PR talk[1]. CMIIW.

[1] https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-relaxed-over-f1-staff-exodus-amid-wheatley-talks/10607335/

[swogerino]

Jonathan Wheatley is in the spotlight after Adrian Newy could be next to leave Redbull.

For those who don't know him, he is the sporting director of Redbull.
He is the one who became famous in 2021 for the case of the safety car in the last race that gave the world championship to Max Verstappen.
He should become the team principal of Alpine or Sauber.

So what is happening,is Redbull in a complete break up as a team,are they going to go bankrupt or better they cannot go bankrupt as have a huge capital but they are going to become a mediocre team from 2026 if both heads of the team starts to leave one after another and honestly for me that would be great,it has been a really long time like we don't see battles between Ferrari,Mclaren and Williams in 1996-2000 and 2007-2008,some really really great memories from these Championships which look like didn't ever exist thanks to the seasons,the latest ones being so boring.That would be nice to have again a balanced F1 season like those times,emotions would be high again.