[Archive] BFL trolling museum

[Inaba]

BFL. Echo chamber is strong, can talk shit about competition whilst not release a clear shipping date ever.

Sure, we could release a hard date... but let me see if i get this straight:

You are releasing your product in 6 days.  Yet you are going to fly to get the chips tomorrow (Monday), leaving you 5 days to mount, assemble, test, pack and ship your product? Really?  You haven't even demonstrated a working product yet, why is that?

Seems to me, if you had a working test product, you'd have shown it by now, but maybe not.  Seems silly, though... if you wanted to be the first, you would show your working prototype, that would qualify you as first at this point.  What possible reason could you have for not showing a working unit 6 days before you are scheduled to ship? 

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[Phinnaeus Gage]

Somebody else quote the above. I'm still recovering from the toes episode.

[Inaba]

Somebody else quote the above. I'm still recovering from the toes episode.

Just don't think about it, man.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

Somebody else quote the above. I'm still recovering from the toes episode.

Just don't think about it, man.

I'm cool, bro!

[BitSyncom]

Sure, we could release a hard date...

Ok, I am waiting. Oh, don't change the subject. Don't worry about how we operate.

[Inaba]

Somebody else quote the above. I'm still recovering from the toes episode.

Just don't think about it, man.

I'm cool, bro!

Use this to help out: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lq58y1GT3S1qkj042o1_500.jpg

Ok, I am waiting. Oh, don't change the subject. Don't worry about how we operate.

Oh, so you want to worry about how WE operate, but if I ask the hard questions of YOU, it's a problem, right? 

Or do you mean I should come into your thread and start asking you important questions like ... why are you not showing ANYTHING other than documentation, 5 days before you're scheduled to start shipping in bulk?

I mean, hell... we've had our PCB, cases, power supplies, nuts, bolts, boxes, etc... months before we are scheduled to ship.  I'm not even saying you aren't on schedule, maybe you are.  I don't care.  You are here, in the BFL thread trolling and you won't even demo a working product 5 days before you are shipping.  Seems like a crazy way go about things, but whatever man.  Like I said, if you're delayed, your project is dead and I believe you know this.  I hope you aren't rushing things just to be first and shipping a brick in a box that fails to perform or breaks in a month.

[tvbcof]

...fore we are scheduled to ship.  I'm not even saying you aren't on schedule, maybe you are.  I don't care.  You are here, in the BFL thread trolling and you won't even demo a working product 5 days be...

Heh.  Payback is a bitch

[elux]

What did I just read?  

Seems to me, if you had a working test product, you'd have shown it by now, but maybe not.  Seems silly, though... if you wanted to be the first, you would show your working prototype, that would qualify you as first at this point.  What possible reason could you have for not showing a working unit 6 days before you are scheduled to ship?  

I don't care.  You are here, in the BFL thread trolling and you won't even demo a working product 5 days before you are shipping.  Seems like a crazy way go about things, but whatever man.  

Like I said, if you're delayed, your project is dead and I believe you know this.  I hope you aren't rushing things just to be first and shipping a brick in a box that fails to perform or breaks in a month.

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"

[BitSyncom]

Oh, so you want to worry about how WE operate, but if I ask the hard questions of YOU, it's a problem, right? 

Nope, nor I plan to tell you how we operate.

Anyways, I wasn't asking how you operate, I like many others, are just wondering when you are going to ship.

Still waiting on that hard date Josh.

[Inaba]

See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here.  I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread.  If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators.  I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

I do love how he's taken to trolling BFL though.  I wonder what that portends for their 19th shipping date with nothing to show but some paperwork.

Still waiting on that evidence of a working product, Yifu.

[lucif]

The best way to clean yourself from lie - guilt another guy.

Where the chips?

[BitSyncom]

See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here.  I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread.  If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators.  I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

No comment, quoted for historical purpose.

Still waiting on that evidence of a working product, Yifu.

You'll get your evidence as indicated by a very public countdown timer.

The real question is "When am I going to get the hard date Josh?"

[Inaba]

See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here.  I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread.  If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators.  I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

No comment, quoted for historical purpose.

Still waiting on that evidence of a working product, Yifu.

You'll get your evidence as indicated by a very public countdown timer.

The question real is "When am I going to get the hard date Josh?"

Not sure what or why you're quoting for "historical purpose" but rock on brother.  Not like I ever try to remove my previous posts or change my statements.  Are you seriously denying the fact that you wouldn't pitch a little hissy fit if I came to your thread and started asking hard questions? 

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product.  So there's your answer.  Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

[smoothie]

BFL. Echo chamber is strong, can talk shit about competition whilst not release a clear shipping date ever.

Sure, we could release a hard date... but let me see if i get this straight:

You are releasing your product in 6 days.  Yet you are going to fly to get the chips tomorrow (Monday), leaving you 5 days to mount, assemble, test, pack and ship your product? Really?  You haven't even demonstrated a working product yet, why is that?

Seems to me, if you had a working test product, you'd have shown it by now, but maybe not.  Seems silly, though... if you wanted to be the first, you would show your working prototype, that would qualify you as first at this point.  What possible reason could you have for not showing a working unit 6 days before you are scheduled to ship? 

BFL_Josh, Inaba,

Where is your working product? Where is your working test product? Pix and video?

Still waiting...lol

[BitSyncom]

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product.  So there's your answer.  Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

[Inaba]

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product.  So there's your answer.  Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

Absolutely. I might even give it to you before that, too.  Cause I'm just a nice guy like that.

[BitSyncom]

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product.  So there's your answer.  Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

Absolutely.

Great.

[smoothie]

See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here.  I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread.  If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators.  I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

I do love how he's taken to trolling BFL though.  I wonder what that portends for their 19th shipping date with nothing to show but some paperwork.

Still waiting on that evidence of a working product, Yifu.

So what's the hard date josh? All you do is keep changing the subject when asked.

[tvbcof]

See, the difference is I'm not crying and whining to moderators to get BitSyncom out of here.  I certainly welcome him trolling in our thread.  If I were to come over to the Avalon thread and start asking questions, he would bitch and moan and complain to the moderators.  I'm just pointing out the hypocritical nature of Avalon, not saying I want him to leave by any means.

No comment, quoted for historical purpose.

Perhaps the moderator who was so harried can weigh in on the nature and magnitude of the harassment they received from the Avalon team.  Also it would be interesting to know which mod coordinates with BFL such that Inaba can come up with such detailed information.

I will say that it looked unsightly when BFL spammed the Avalon thread, and also looked somewhat discretionary (e.g., the excuse that they were tamping down lies didn't seem to fly.)  By the same token, it actually does not look that great going the other direction.  The same argument about 'free time' in what one would expect to be fairly busy days down at the shop applies.

That said, I find it wildly entertaining when one vendor harasses another, and also relatively informative since the various ASIC [would-be] vendors probably have more insight into the field (that is, producing/scamming) that the average Joe here.

[Starlightbreaker]

You'll get your hard date as soon as you provide evidence of a working product.  So there's your answer.  Provide a working product today and I will give you a hard date, today.

So following that logic, I can expect shipping hard date on the 20th?

Absolutely. I might even give it to you before that, too.  Cause I'm just a nice guy like that.

20th?
of this month?

even kano and yochdog haven't been flown in yet.

lol.

i guess people will be shipped out empty boxes with fans and spacers.
asic devices later on, 3-4 months later.