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Author Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order  (Read 530832 times)
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August 15, 2016, 06:18:43 PM
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I tried updating my B3 S9 with this firmware (the latest matching one for my unit):

Antminer-S9-201607131442-12.92T-600M-security.tar.gz

Unfortunately it has not come back after rebooting.

Note that I did this remotely because the unit is in a data center. I can power cycle it via the PDU, but I'm a bit scared to do that given all the warnings about not losing power while upgrading.

I guess I'll wait 10 minutes, pray, then power cycle it. Crap...

I know for a fact that some people brick their S9 with the update. If you have a batch one, you can connect two machine on the same controller tho. (If you have some long IO cables)
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August 15, 2016, 06:19:01 PM
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I tried updating my B3 S9 with this firmware (the latest matching one for my unit):

Antminer-S9-201607131442-12.92T-600M-security.tar.gz

Unfortunately it has not come back after rebooting.

Note that I did this remotely because the unit is in a data center. I can power cycle it via the PDU, but I'm a bit scared to do that given all the warnings about not losing power while upgrading.

I guess I'll wait 10 minutes, pray, then power cycle it. Crap...

Well that was weird. It *did* boot after all, but it came up with a different IP address.

I'm using DHCP to assign a static address via MAC address. The MAC address changed after the firmware update.

WTF?

Anyway, I'm glad I checked the firewall for new dynamic DHCP addresses. Saved me a trip to colo.

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August 15, 2016, 06:29:08 PM
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I tried updating my B3 S9 with this firmware (the latest matching one for my unit):

Antminer-S9-201607131442-12.92T-600M-security.tar.gz

Unfortunately it has not come back after rebooting.

Note that I did this remotely because the unit is in a data center. I can power cycle it via the PDU, but I'm a bit scared to do that given all the warnings about not losing power while upgrading.

I guess I'll wait 10 minutes, pray, then power cycle it. Crap...

Well that was weird. It *did* boot after all, but it came up with a different IP address.

I'm using DHCP to assign a static address via MAC address. The MAC address changed after the firmware update.

WTF?

Anyway, I'm glad I checked the firewall for new dynamic DHCP addresses. Saved me a trip to colo.

Same happened to me.
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August 15, 2016, 07:41:07 PM
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I know for a fact that some people brick their S9 with the update. If you have a batch one, you can connect two machine on the same controller tho. (If you have some long IO cables)

How to connect  6 cable to the four slot ?

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August 15, 2016, 07:51:44 PM
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Those prices are stupid. After all this waiting I think I'm going to invest my 6 grand in something else. Such a disappointment...
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August 15, 2016, 08:14:08 PM
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Those prices are stupid. After all this waiting I think I'm going to invest my 6 grand in something else. Such a disappointment...

Agreed that the prices are too high.  It also looks like they are pushing people to buy the lower hashrate unit for whatever reason.  The lower hashrate one is 4.8Th/BTC while the higher hashrate one is 4Th/BTC.  That's a large difference in terms of which is more economical.

EDIT: I guess I should say though that I prefer the prices being too high to being too low.  The price drop on the S7's was faster than the earnings from mining so that later buyers were rewarded for not buying earlier.  I am actually glad to not see that happening with the S9's so far.
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August 15, 2016, 08:26:15 PM
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Those prices are stupid. After all this waiting I think I'm going to invest my 6 grand in something else. Such a disappointment...

Agreed that the prices are too high.  It also looks like they are pushing people to buy the lower hashrate unit for whatever reason.  The lower hashrate one is 4.8Th/BTC while the higher hashrate one is 4Th/BTC.  That's a large difference in terms of which is more economical.

EDIT: I guess I should say though that I prefer the prices being too high to being too low.  The price drop on the S7's was faster than the earnings from mining so that later buyers were rewarded for not buying earlier.  I am actually glad to not see that happening with the S9's so far.

Yes, that's why I am now rewarding myself by NOT buying S9 earlier and maybe later as well.
It feels good so far.
Comparing S9 (11.85 Th) to S7, S9 is worth maybe $1000 or even less ($900) with 4% difficulty increment.
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August 15, 2016, 09:19:41 PM
Last edit: August 16, 2016, 09:46:54 AM by Tupsu
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ANTMINER S9-B10  price is fixed USD price
ANTMINER S9-B11 price is fixed BTC price

No logic to me.

EDIT.
Now Bitmain fixed this.
Only USD fix price 1400USD ja 1550 USD

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August 15, 2016, 09:32:37 PM
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I tried updating my B3 S9 with this firmware (the latest matching one for my unit):

Antminer-S9-201607131442-12.92T-600M-security.tar.gz

Unfortunately it has not come back after rebooting.

Note that I did this remotely because the unit is in a data center. I can power cycle it via the PDU, but I'm a bit scared to do that given all the warnings about not losing power while upgrading.

I guess I'll wait 10 minutes, pray, then power cycle it. Crap...

Well that was weird. It *did* boot after all, but it came up with a different IP address.

I'm using DHCP to assign a static address via MAC address. The MAC address changed after the firmware update.

WTF?

Anyway, I'm glad I checked the firewall for new dynamic DHCP addresses. Saved me a trip to colo.

Yeah, my MAC address changed on my S9 after flashing it to try to bring back a dead board. (The only flashing of any antminer I've tried.)

The MAC address is a hardware address and shouldn't be effected by modifying software/firmware. I've never heard of such a thing. Even the first few characters of the address, which are used to identify a manufacturer were changed. If any changes were to occur, you'd expect it to be at the end of the address with the first characters remaining the same. I guess like most things biteme does it's back-asswards.

Oh, and the dead board is still dead.
Very high quality piece of hardware these machines. /sarcasm off

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August 15, 2016, 09:44:58 PM
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What is the standard hashrate for an S9 batch 3? 12,93TH or 11,85TH?

Thinking of buying I used one, but need to be sure of the facts. (just to slam the owner, he says its 14TH+)
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August 15, 2016, 09:46:19 PM
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What is the standard hashrate for an S9 batch 3? 12,93TH or 11,85TH?

Thinking of buying I used one, but need to be sure of the facts. (just to slam the owner, he says its 14TH+)

Pretty sure it's 11.85

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August 15, 2016, 09:47:27 PM
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I tried updating my B3 S9 with this firmware (the latest matching one for my unit):

Antminer-S9-201607131442-12.92T-600M-security.tar.gz

Unfortunately it has not come back after rebooting.

Note that I did this remotely because the unit is in a data center. I can power cycle it via the PDU, but I'm a bit scared to do that given all the warnings about not losing power while upgrading.

I guess I'll wait 10 minutes, pray, then power cycle it. Crap...

Well that was weird. It *did* boot after all, but it came up with a different IP address.

I'm using DHCP to assign a static address via MAC address. The MAC address changed after the firmware update.

WTF?

Anyway, I'm glad I checked the firewall for new dynamic DHCP addresses. Saved me a trip to colo.

Yeah, my MAC address changed on my S9 after flashing it to try to bring back a dead board. (The only flashing of any antminer I've tried.)

The MAC address is a hardware address and shouldn't be effected by modifying software/firmware. I've never heard of such a thing. Even the first few characters of the address, which are used to identify a manufacturer were changed. If any changes were to occur, you'd expect it to be at the end of the address with the first characters remaining the same. I guess like most things biteme does it's back-asswards.

Oh, and the dead board is still dead.
Very high quality piece of hardware these machines. /sarcasm off
Yeah...take a look at /etc/init.d/network.sh if you want to see why that is...note that the script is not the same across firmware versions and on some versions makes use of openssl random.

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August 15, 2016, 09:50:21 PM
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What is the standard hashrate for an S9 batch 3? 12,93TH or 11,85TH?

Thinking of buying I used one, but need to be sure of the facts. (just to slam the owner, he says its 14TH+)

Pretty sure it's 11.85

It was a 12.93, good luck running it at that all mine are down clocked to 11.85 way to hot and had hash board problems. after the down clock they've run great.
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August 15, 2016, 10:21:02 PM
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If Bitmain send you a faulty S9  - they will not repair or refund you.

Their Warranty is worth nothing, They will lie to you, ignore you - whatever to avoid replacing faulty goods.

Anyone who wants to join me in a class-action lawsuit - please message me.

I have spent over 20,000 USD with Bitmain - yet they refuse to honor their warranty.

My S9 was DOA - 1 dead board the same day I switched it on. Another board died 60 days later.

Bitmain deserve to go bust. LETS SUE THEM.
 JOIN ME IN SUING THEM FOR A FULL REFUND

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August 15, 2016, 10:46:24 PM
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***** WARNING *****

If Bitmain send you a faulty S9  - they will not repair or refund you.

Their Warranty is worth nothing, They will lie to you, ignore you - whatever to avoid replacing faulty goods.

Anyone who wants to join me in a class-action lawsuit - please message me.

I have spent over 20,000 USD with Bitmain - yet they refuse to honor their warranty.

My S9 was DOA - 1 dead board the same day I switched it on. Another board died 60 days later.

Bitmain deserve to go bust. LETS SUE THEM.
 JOIN ME IN SUING THEM FOR A FULL REFUND

No offense to what you are trying to do. But my experience's have been different. A little slow but they have never denied me a warranty issue.
Sorry to hear you are having trouble getting them to warranty your board. What are they telling you?
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August 15, 2016, 11:39:06 PM
Last edit: August 16, 2016, 01:07:52 AM by dmwardjr
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Those prices are stupid. After all this waiting I think I'm going to invest my 6 grand in something else. Such a disappointment...

Agreed that the prices are too high.  It also looks like they are pushing people to buy the lower hashrate unit for whatever reason.  The lower hashrate one is 4.8Th/BTC while the higher hashrate one is 4Th/BTC.  That's a large difference in terms of which is more economical.

EDIT: I guess I should say though that I prefer the prices being too high to being too low.  The price drop on the S7's was faster than the earnings from mining so that later buyers were rewarded for not buying earlier.  I am actually glad to not see that happening with the S9's so far.

Yes, that's why I am now rewarding myself by NOT buying S9 earlier and maybe later as well.
It feels good so far.
Comparing S9 (11.85 Th) to S7, S9 is worth maybe $1000 or even less ($900) with 4% difficulty increment.


Totally agree!  The only people who should purchase at this time are those with FREE electricity.  Even then, it can take a long time to ROI.

Bitmain, is simply selling all of their used S7's in their farms to replace with S9's.  The majority of S9's manufacturered are flowing into their own farms.  Which is fine... it's their device.  They can do whatever they want to do with it.  I'm happy I sold all of my S7's at the end of February and beginning of March at an average of $810 each.

I'm one of those who had to learn the hard way about buying ASIC's from manufacturers.  It's not worth it unless your power costs are next to nothing.  Even then, it's a gamble because you have no idea what Bitmain or other manufacturers will add to the network hash rate.

Also, the support has been terrible lately.  That too is a gamble in itself.  You fork out tons of money on a rig(s) in the hope they do not deny your request if needed for repair or replacement by HONORING their warranty.

EDIT:  If you absolutely must order the S9, it's not worth the risk unless you order from Yoshi in the USA.  PERIOD...  You will pay more for it but it's worth it for the peace of mind.

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August 16, 2016, 03:45:10 AM
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I nominate Bitmain for the worst bitcoin mining gear manufacturer of the Year. This is a prime example of what happens to a monopoly.

Bitcoin core developers are partially to blame as well, they should've anticipated the monopoly and done something about it. Monopoly is bad for bitcoin mining, yet the core developers are condoning it. This is not going to end well for the regular users.

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August 16, 2016, 04:42:46 AM
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Bitmain have been pieces of shit since the S4 fiascos in my books.

Bitcoin home mining is dead not because of power requirements or other such bullshit, it's dead because of the ASIC monopoly. Very, very sad.
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August 16, 2016, 07:09:10 AM
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Bitmain have been pieces of shit since the S4 fiascos in my books.

Bitcoin home mining is dead not because of power requirements or other such bullshit, it's dead because of the ASIC monopoly. Very, very sad.

Yes, totally agree!  It is a sad time for bitcoin and bitcoin mining at present.  Something needs to be done about this monopoly for sure.

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August 16, 2016, 07:19:42 AM
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Those prices are stupid. After all this waiting I think I'm going to invest my 6 grand in something else. Such a disappointment...

Agreed that the prices are too high.  It also looks like they are pushing people to buy the lower hashrate unit for whatever reason.  The lower hashrate one is 4.8Th/BTC while the higher hashrate one is 4Th/BTC.  That's a large difference in terms of which is more economical.

EDIT: I guess I should say though that I prefer the prices being too high to being too low.  The price drop on the S7's was faster than the earnings from mining so that later buyers were rewarded for not buying earlier.  I am actually glad to not see that happening with the S9's so far.

They are pushing the lower hash rate units to the end users because Bitmain is filling their farm with the good full hash rate units and also taking the full hash rate models and shipping them to their large customers .... We the little miners, we get the scraps... the QC failed units.

I'm pretty much done mining BTC with the S7's till I get solar panels... till then, I'm cranking up GPU mining on Ethereum and Dash
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