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Author Topic: Bitmain Announces the Antminer R4 and APW5 Power Supply, Designed for Silence  (Read 67769 times)
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December 03, 2016, 12:45:06 AM
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Just realized B2 is only 8TH/s vs. B1 8.6TH/s.  Guess that's why there's the over $300 drop and it's not due to a price adjustment since release?  Since they have the same power rating of 845W + 9%, that means these are less efficient than B1.

The numbers don't have much meaning, until you test batch 1 against batch 2.

And 1336 / 1000. Compared to 8.6/8.0   Means a price drop.

Of course I paid more like 1040 due to exchange rate theft on their part.

I don't buy much ASIC gear from Avalon or bit-main.  I spend more on gpus and mine alt coins.

Basically the gpu pc gear has real warranties from real companies.

Since I got back into gpu mining I have had more then 10k worth of gear with 5 successful rmas.
Much easier to make a few bucks. Fast shipping just better.

more like $1122 (1.457 btc) before shipping or $1218 shipped (1.582 btc), but who is counting... Grin
bottom line..meh deal.
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December 03, 2016, 12:48:04 AM
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Just realized B2 is only 8TH/s vs. B1 8.6TH/s.  Guess that's why there's the over $300 drop and it's not due to a price adjustment since release?  Since they have the same power rating of 845W + 9%, that means these are less efficient than B1.

The numbers don't have much meaning, until you test batch 1 against batch 2.

And 1336 / 1000. Compared to 8.6/8.0   Means a price drop.

Of course I paid more like 1040 due to exchange rate theft on their part.

I don't buy much ASIC gear from Avalon or bit-main.  I spend more on gpus and mine alt coins.

Basically the gpu pc gear has real warranties from real companies.

Since I got back into gpu mining I have had more then 10k worth of gear with 5 successful rmas.
Much easier to make a few bucks. Fast shipping just better.

more like $1122 (1.457 btc) before shipping or $1218 shipped (1.582 btc), but who is counting... Grin
bottom line..meh deal.

Well I will jump back to 45th.

Follow up my order is now marked expired due to a 228 minute wait for a confirm.
Hopefully they will fix this soon.

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December 03, 2016, 10:07:38 AM
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Well I will jump back to 45th.

Follow up my order is now marked expired due to a 228 minute wait for a confirm.
Hopefully they will fix this soon.

Anyone else this has happened to just make sure you email them.

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December 03, 2016, 10:11:46 AM
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Well I will jump back to 45th.

Follow up my order is now marked expired due to a 228 minute wait for a confirm.
Hopefully they will fix this soon.

Anyone else this has happened to just make sure you email them.
Yeah I sent them e-mail immediately after I noticed that is was about 50 minutes without confirmation.
It took a total of 486 minutes a.k.a. about 8 hours (!) for my payment to get confirmed.
I did make the payment two minutes after making the order, so I hope Bitmain will keep my order valid after all.
I got the "BITMAIN order paid" e-mail but the order is still as "paid, unshipped, expired" in "my orders".

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December 03, 2016, 10:54:54 AM
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Yeah I sent them e-mail immediately after I noticed that is was about 50 minutes without confirmation.
It took a total of 486 minutes a.k.a. about 8 hours (!) for my payment to get confirmed.
I did make the payment two minutes after making the order, so I hope Bitmain will keep my order valid after all.
I got the "BITMAIN order paid" e-mail but the order is still as "paid, unshipped, expired" in "my orders".
Same here although I paid like half hour after order. I guess wa all have to wait till Monday (Beijing time = Sunday eve) to have any response.
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December 03, 2016, 03:23:00 PM
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My orders page now reads paid unshipped

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December 03, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
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Yeah boy!! My order is now updated and it is paid, unshipped and validCool

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December 03, 2016, 05:27:05 PM
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probably was due to Cyber Monday week...  I just had a BTC xfr to Coinbase take 49hrs to be confirmed after paying Blockchain.info's default tx fee...  With everybody and their brother no doubt paying more for faster confirmations things got backed up...  The good part for me is that BTC >USD went up during the time it took so was worth more when I exchanged Smiley

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December 03, 2016, 07:43:29 PM
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I don't see any talk of overclocking the R4 in this thread.  I found this video of a guy who says he upped his speed from 600M to 650M (speed of the faster R9) with little increase in heat for a 9.3TH/s.  Anyone else able to run this speed without problems?
He's not completely knowledgeable on the power consumption, as he's unaware that the S9 has 3 boards and the R4 has 2 boards so when he calculates that increase in power he's doing it assuming the R4 has 3 boards also (actual increase should be about 67watts, not 103watts, so about 915watts = 1,000+ watts at the wall).
Careful with this video, about 1/2 through he changes his audio settings and you might blow your speakers if the volume is too high.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv7c3BWtvZk

Here's his results when he pushes it to 700M (he's not aware that you need to let it settle and run for a while to see a result on a lower speed and that you need to watch the HW errors to see if it's working OK):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTAKIQSkVc

Will Batch 2 of the R4's have the autotune feature the new S9's have?
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December 04, 2016, 02:21:29 AM
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I don't see any talk of overclocking the R4 in this thread.  I found this video of a guy who says he upped his speed from 600M to 650M (speed of the faster R9) with little increase in heat for a 9.3TH/s.  Anyone else able to run this speed without problems?
He's not completely knowledgeable on the power consumption, as he's unaware that the S9 has 3 boards and the R4 has 2 boards so when he calculates that increase in power he's doing it assuming the R4 has 3 boards also (actual increase should be about 67watts, not 103watts, so about 915watts = 1,000+ watts at the wall).
Careful with this video, about 1/2 through he changes his audio settings and you might blow your speakers if the volume is too high.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv7c3BWtvZk

Here's his results when he pushes it to 700M (he's not aware that you need to let it settle and run for a while to see a result on a lower speed and that you need to watch the HW errors to see if it's working OK):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCTAKIQSkVc

Will Batch 2 of the R4's have the autotune feature the new S9's have?


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December 05, 2016, 02:34:27 AM
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Hi all, my first post here, so plz steer me in the right direction if this has already been asked.
I'm a veteran in IT/MIS, but a relative noob to coin mining... About to order my first mining rig this coming week - the R4.
Have been heavily researching the different mining rig options. I like the hashing power & ROI of the S9's, but the environments that I have access to free electricity won't put up with that kind of heat & noise.
My question is can the Antminer R4 be powered with one of the EVGA 110volt power supply units such as this one...
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 80+ GOLD 1000W Fully Modular 10 Year Warranty Includes FREE Power On Self Test Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-G2-1000-XR/dp/B00CGYCNG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480902664&sr=8-1&keywords=EVGA+1000

Thanks in advance!
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December 05, 2016, 04:21:53 AM
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Hi all, my first post here, so plz steer me in the right direction if this has already been asked.
I'm a veteran in IT/MIS, but a relative noob to coin mining... About to order my first mining rig this coming week - the R4.
Have been heavily researching the different mining rig options. I like the hashing power & ROI of the S9's, but the environments that I have access to free electricity won't put up with that kind of heat & noise.
My question is can the Antminer R4 be powered with one of the EVGA 110volt power supply units such as this one...
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 80+ GOLD 1000W Fully Modular 10 Year Warranty Includes FREE Power On Self Test Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-G2-1000-XR/dp/B00CGYCNG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480902664&sr=8-1&keywords=EVGA+1000

Thanks in advance!


maybe maybe not but this one will do it for sure.

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-G2-1300-XR/dp/B00COIZTZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480911684&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+1300+g2

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December 05, 2016, 04:35:52 AM
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Hi all, my first post here, so plz steer me in the right direction if this has already been asked.
I'm a veteran in IT/MIS, but a relative noob to coin mining... About to order my first mining rig this coming week - the R4.
Have been heavily researching the different mining rig options. I like the hashing power & ROI of the S9's, but the environments that I have access to free electricity won't put up with that kind of heat & noise.
My question is can the Antminer R4 be powered with one of the EVGA 110volt power supply units such as this one...
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 G2 80+ GOLD 1000W Fully Modular 10 Year Warranty Includes FREE Power On Self Test Power Supply 120-G2-1000-XR

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-G2-1000-XR/dp/B00CGYCNG2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480902664&sr=8-1&keywords=EVGA+1000

Thanks in advance!


maybe maybe not but this one will do it for sure.

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-SuperNOVA-Modular-Warranty-120-G2-1300-XR/dp/B00COIZTZM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1480911684&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+1300+g2

I've been using the 1000w for the last 4 days and it's worked fine but I don't want to cut it that close. Upgrading to a server PSU shortly.
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December 05, 2016, 05:04:11 AM
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Thanks for the confirmation reelen. I was hoping that option would work, but also as philipma1957 mentioned, I was concerned with cutting it so close. Especially since I plan to overclock the R4 to 650 and that will put it up over 900 watts of consumption.
I agree, the EVGA SuperNOVA 1300 G2, 80+ GOLD 1300W would be the best (& cheapest) option. I'll add it to my cart.
PS - any idea on how long the entire order process will take for it to get here (Florida, USA) from BitMain in China?
I haven't even picked out & setup a digital wallet yet, so I have no 'Bitcoin Account' which will only leave me the Wire Transfer option for payment.
Still reviewing the different pools available to join as well... AntPool, Slush, etc... don't know which is best/cheapest yet.
PS - I just read the following:

"Each AntMiner R4 has 6 PCI-e connectors for +12V/15A DC STABLE input on hash boards and 1 PCI-e connector on the controller, all the 7 PCI-e connectors are required. Do not connect more than one PSU to the same hash board to prevent possible damage and instability."

I thought by looking at the pictures that these EVGA SuperNOVA series only have 6 Power outlets for VGA use? Where does the 7th power plug needed for the Antminer controller come from?

Also, what are your thoughts on buying one of the NEW R4 units at places (that already have the R4 Batch 2 in stock in the USA) other than directly from BITMAIN in China?
Wonder if BITMAIN honors the 90-Day warranty for a third party? When buying from a third party I understand that the original 90-Day warranty begins when it got shipped to the USA, so hopefully I'd have at least 45 days of warranty left & hopefully BITMAIN will honor it.

Thanks all!
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December 05, 2016, 06:23:03 AM
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The EVGA connectors have dual 6pin connectors on the end so one 8pin (marked as VGA) on the back of the psu actually supply's two 6pin connectors the other end.

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December 05, 2016, 08:00:40 AM
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Hi all, my first post here, so plz steer me in the right direction if this has already been asked.
I'm a veteran in IT/MIS, but a relative noob to coin mining... About to order my first mining rig this coming week - the R4.

I'd hold off buying any power supply until you can actually buy a R4. They are out of stock.

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December 05, 2016, 12:53:21 PM
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Hi all, my first post here, so plz steer me in the right direction if this has already been asked.
I'm a veteran in IT/MIS, but a relative noob to coin mining... About to order my first mining rig this coming week - the R4.

I'd hold off buying any power supply until you can actually buy a R4. They are out of stock.

I thought he had one.

Mine is due on Weds.

As for the 7 jacks  use a double jack wire  and plug one into the controller and a board.

that double jack cable would pull  say 170 watts  the other 5 will pull  150 watts  not an issue.

evga cables do 220-250 watts.


A tip Do not plug and unplug your cables a lot   they wear out fast.  (hard to believe but true)

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December 05, 2016, 02:37:06 PM
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Fedex says mine's coming in on Wednesday too!  Woot!!

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Hi all, my first post here, so plz steer me in the right direction if this has already been asked.
I'm a veteran in IT/MIS, but a relative noob to coin mining... About to order my first mining rig this coming week - the R4.

I'd hold off buying any power supply until you can actually buy a R4. They are out of stock.

I thought he had one.


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Hi all, my first post here, so plz steer me in the right direction if this has already been asked.
I'm a veteran in IT/MIS, but a relative noob to coin mining... About to order my first mining rig this coming week - the R4.

I'd hold off buying any power supply until you can actually buy a R4. They are out of stock.

I thought he had one.


Really? Grin

How did I miss it Grin

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