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May 25, 2013, 01:27:24 AM
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June 01, 2013, 05:33:39 PM
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Question on 2-factor authentication.

Just purchased a Yubikey.  Tried (several times) to add to my account - but setting is ignored and no 2FA authentication is needed on login. Feature seems to be disabled?

Also tried the Google Authenticator setup.  This implementation uses a counter rather than a time-based OTP.  I run 2 versions of Google Auth on my PC desktop and neither has this option.  The time-based feature seems to be the standard and works fine for me on several other BTC sites.  Why this counter-based version that I can't use?

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June 02, 2013, 05:09:54 AM
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Question on 2-factor authentication.

Just purchased a Yubikey.  Tried (several times) to add to my account - but setting is ignored and no 2FA authentication is needed on login. Feature seems to be disabled?

Also tried the Google Authenticator setup.  This implementation uses a counter rather than a time-based OTP.  I run 2 versions of Google Auth on my PC desktop and neither has this option.  The time-based feature seems to be the standard and works fine for me on several other BTC sites.  Why this counter-based version that I can't use?

Thanks.

Yubikey is working for me... is anyone else having troubles?  Are you sure you're clicking save?

As for counter based, I dislike the time based.  With a counter based one, you can copy down several numbers and keep them with you, so you don't need a phone or what have you available.  You can easily invalidate them by just advancing the counter 1 spot then as well.

The time based has only become a standard people people don't seem to understand the limitations of TOTP and how annoying it really is.  Especially if there's network lag, clock skew or improper implementation.

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June 02, 2013, 03:22:14 PM
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Yubikey is working for me... is anyone else having troubles?  Are you sure you're clicking save?

As for counter based, I dislike the time based.  With a counter based one, you can copy down several numbers and keep them with you, so you don't need a phone or what have you available.  You can easily invalidate them by just advancing the counter 1 spot then as well.

The time based has only become a standard people people don't seem to understand the limitations of TOTP and how annoying it really is.  Especially if there's network lag, clock skew or improper implementation.


Thanks for the quick response.  My mistake - I had been on blockchain.info for a while and on their account security settings page, there isn't any "save changes" (which I think there should always be).  So when I went to the EMC account security page, I failed to use the "save changes" button.  So I've corrected that, and have a few questions.

1) I've logged off and on quite a few times using the Yubikey.  A few of those times I get an error message: "OTP REPLAY ERROR", and need to try again.  Normally the next try it works fine.  Is this a timing issue?

2) I'd assume based on the above message that EMC DOES validate the OTP and not just look for the correct public key portion of the OPT field (I've read that Blockchain.info only validates the public key portion - BAD).  Is this correct?

3) I haven't tried, but EMC documentation says I can't ever remove this Yubikey setting? Is that correct?

4) On the GoogleAuth counter based setting, I want to know how this works.  If the account is set for that, does the EMC page give the user a "starting counter" which then is continuously incremented by 1 on each login attempt?  Sounds like no software is needed then.  If an error occurs (bad # for example) how would the user reset the counter?

Thanks much - hopefully these answers will also be helpful to other newbies.
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June 03, 2013, 04:57:47 PM
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1) I've logged off and on quite a few times using the Yubikey.  A few of those times I get an error message: "OTP REPLAY ERROR", and need to try again.  Normally the next try it works fine.  Is this a timing issue?

I means you're trying to send the same code you've already sent or one in the chain that is before the latest one you've used. Any time a code is used all previous codes are invalidated, regardless of whether or not they've been used.

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2) I'd assume based on the above message that EMC DOES validate the OTP and not just look for the correct public key portion of the OPT field (I've read that Blockchain.info only validates the public key portion - BAD).  Is this correct?

Yes, it validates the entire OTP, not just the first few bytes.

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3) I haven't tried, but EMC documentation says I can't ever remove this Yubikey setting? Is that correct?

You should be able to remove it by switching your 2FA to GA or None.

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4) On the GoogleAuth counter based setting, I want to know how this works.  If the account is set for that, does the EMC page give the user a "starting counter" which then is continuously incremented by 1 on each login attempt?  Sounds like no software is needed then.  If an error occurs (bad # for example) how would the user reset the counter?

As above, the OTP is deterministic.  As long as you have the starting seed, you can compute all keys to infinity.  However, once a key is used along that line to infinity, all previous codes that come before it are invalid.  All future codes are still valid until one is used, then all codes before it are rendered invalid. 


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June 07, 2013, 11:51:41 PM
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Ouch, I believe that is twice in the past week EMC round durations have gone over 1 day. 
Although they did have a run with higher than average earnings right before.

Is this an inherent challenge with smaller pools?  How should I look at this objectively? 

Active Miners    Round Duration    Round Shares    Your Shares    Current Speed    US1    US2    US3                                                    Est. Reward    BTC Earned
2036                    1d 01:30:23    22839171             xxxx                     2.84 TH/s            1205.52 GH/s    1154.73 GH/s    490.66 GH/s    xxx                    0 / 24 hours
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June 08, 2013, 04:17:37 PM
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It's normal variance.  You want to look at it over the long term.  If you look at the last 50 blocks, we are doing better than the average, at 54.7%. 


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June 15, 2013, 02:40:26 PM
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Somebody has to bring back the luck !  Roll Eyes

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June 15, 2013, 02:44:33 PM
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Well hurry up!  I could use some!

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June 15, 2013, 09:25:12 PM
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I think US1 is down... Sad

You'd think by know I would know enough to setup a backup pool.... ungh...

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June 15, 2013, 09:38:04 PM
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I saw that us1 was down too.  I have us2 as a backup on cgminer 3.2.1 but it didn't switch over.  I restarted and it picked us2 correctly still it's kinda annoying it didn't autoswitch.

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June 15, 2013, 09:44:18 PM
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yeah mine didn't switch over either, i thought my gpu was dead for a minute or two since the web interface is still showing US1 as up, but theres a big increase in traffic on us2

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June 15, 2013, 10:19:46 PM
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agreed us1 server appears to still be down although the others are working. 
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June 15, 2013, 10:58:09 PM
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US1 is offline, 2 and 3 are still up.  I'm working on the US1 issue.

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June 22, 2013, 10:11:13 AM
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Congratulations to all the PPS miners at this moment. Is there any historical chart which shows DGM on EMC is eventually equal to PPS? Thank you
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June 22, 2013, 01:58:52 PM
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Congratulations to all the PPS miners at this moment. Is there any historical chart which shows DGM on EMC is eventually equal to PPS? Thank you

PPM has a mandatory 5% fee AFAIK, so in the long run DGM is expected to have a better return (assuming your donation amount is <5%).
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June 22, 2013, 02:14:57 PM
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Thanks. But still I want to see a chart of EMC which shows since the beginning of their mining a comparison between PPS and EMC. The only charts I can find are some historical charts of shares per block with an average Luck calculated. It would be nice to see which system till now (since the beginning of EMC) has the benefit... I know this is variable, but in the long run PPS and DGM must be equal. I think its hard to calculate because the Difficulty is rising and in a bad luck month for DGM this is a real forever loss, because in a lucky period the Difficulty is much higher and the payout less.
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June 24, 2013, 03:06:01 PM
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what is with EMC?
since I tried the newest FW for Avalon I get on
http://us2.eclipsemc.com:8337
Code:
Accepted   Rejected
   0           ~2000
Huh
other pools are ok..

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June 24, 2013, 03:21:17 PM
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Hmm, I don't know. I don't have an Avalon, so I couldn't say for sure.  Try using Stratum.  stratum+tcp://us2.eclipsemc.com:3333

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June 24, 2013, 04:17:53 PM
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Avalons be doing only Getwork.  To using stratum must be doing proxy.

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