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September 09, 2012, 02:18:05 PM
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Great!  Glad to hear it... slowly working the bugs out of the SMS system Smiley

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September 09, 2012, 02:25:06 PM
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Try it now, it should work.

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September 09, 2012, 04:44:24 PM
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Six hours for an invalid.

Ouch!

Now that is bad luck.
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September 09, 2012, 07:09:38 PM
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Inaba, any idea why I'm getting a massive string of rejects after every LP?  It has brought my reject rate up to about 10% now, which is totally unacceptable.  I'm not having the same problem with any other pool I use (about 5 others), so it is something specific to EMC.

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September 09, 2012, 08:45:56 PM
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Inaba, any idea why I'm getting a massive string of rejects after every LP?  It has brought my reject rate up to about 10% now, which is totally unacceptable.  I'm not having the same problem with any other pool I use (about 5 others), so it is something specific to EMC.

I saw this also when I first started using the variable difficulty server.
I reduced it by lowering my Qued Work Items setting to 2. I have tried it with a setting of 1 and I didn't get any unable to get work errors but I felt better about leaving it at 2.

I'm using cgminer 2.6.5 on Ubuntu.


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September 09, 2012, 09:20:22 PM
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Hey Inaba, diff10 server is still diff10 or dynamic already?

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September 09, 2012, 09:57:24 PM
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With regards to the stales after LP, you have submit-stale on in CGMiner and you likely have a high queue (which was already mentioned) so when you combine those two, you have lots of stales after an LP.

Diff10 is still diff10, I haven't had a chance to change the code on that server.

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September 09, 2012, 10:36:00 PM
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Inaba, any idea why I'm getting a massive string of rejects after every LP?  It has brought my reject rate up to about 10% now, which is totally unacceptable.  I'm not having the same problem with any other pool I use (about 5 others), so it is something specific to EMC.

I saw this also when I first started using the variable difficulty server.
I reduced it by lowering my Qued Work Items setting to 2. I have tried it with a setting of 1 and I didn't get any unable to get work errors but I felt better about leaving it at 2.

I'm using cgminer 2.6.5 on Ubuntu.

Try 2.7.5 ... there are a lot of changes (in the NEWS file) since 2.6.5
Q setting shouldn't normally need to be touched any more.

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September 10, 2012, 02:32:31 AM
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Ok, I switch 10diff to VarDiff now, so vardiff is running on both the original Vardiff server and on the 10diff server.  Assuming all goes well for 10diff over the next day or two, I'll roll it out to the rest of the servers.

Please report any problems.

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September 10, 2012, 02:47:13 AM
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With regards to the stales after LP, you have submit-stale on in CGMiner and you likely have a high queue (which was already mentioned) so when you combine those two, you have lots of stales after an LP.

Diff10 is still diff10, I haven't had a chance to change the code on that server.


No, I don't have submit stale forced on, and I have my queue set to 1.  As I said earlier, it's only EMC that I'm getting this problem with.  So if your seeing them as stales, it's because EMC is telling CGminer to submit stales.

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September 10, 2012, 02:56:05 AM
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Yes, EMC does inform CGminer to submit-old.  You can force that off I believe, Kano can correct me if I'm wrong... but honestly, there's no reason to NOT submit them.  If a pool is telling you not to submit them, then they are just wasting potentially good shares.

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September 10, 2012, 03:02:38 AM
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Yes, EMC does inform CGminer to submit-old.  You can force that off I believe, Kano can correct me if I'm wrong... but honestly, there's no reason to NOT submit them.  If a pool is telling you not to submit them, then they are just wasting potentially good shares.


So, you are telling CGminer to submit stales, and then rejecting them.  Okay.

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September 10, 2012, 03:04:40 AM
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I think you may be misunderstanding what submit-old (stale) does.

When you receive an LP, it may not be from the pool your connected to, in this case EMC.  You may be notified of an LP before EMC notifies you, so submitting stales will potentially allow you to submit a share that's stale according to YOU, but not to EMC.  If I were to turn that off, any time you received an LP, all of your shares for EMC would be stale, even if EMC would have still accepted them.  

I mean, I can rip you off like some other pools do, but why would you want me to?  Just because your stale stats *appear* better, does not mean they actually are.  Those shares are still rejected, they are just rejected silently as opposed to EMC's method of telling you what's happening and not hiding information.

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September 10, 2012, 03:25:32 AM
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I'm not accusing you, or anyone else of ripping me off.

What I AM trying to do is figure out why after every LP I get a string of rejected shares from EMC, and no other pool, that can last for over a minute sometimes, that leaves me with around a 10% rejected rate.

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September 10, 2012, 03:29:32 AM
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The only way that can happen is if you have a ton of shares in a queue.  What is the reject reason you are getting back from the pool?  stale-prevblk or something else?  That will help narrow it down.

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September 10, 2012, 07:25:17 AM
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I'm not accusing you, or anyone else of ripping me off.

What I AM trying to do is figure out why after every LP I get a string of rejected shares from EMC, and no other pool, that can last for over a minute sometimes, that leaves me with around a 10% rejected rate.


Set CGMiners scan time lower. When I see this happen I turn it down to 25 or 30. Then I only get a couple of shares that maybe where actually delayed not seemingly rolling work and getting rejects. I noticed the problem mainly through GPUMax though. Any proxy may contribute to this though. I am not sure if this is the problem. At worst it wouldn't hurt you to try it, or wouldn't hurt much.

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September 10, 2012, 10:21:38 AM
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Inaba - please rub a rabbits foot Smiley

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September 10, 2012, 02:25:13 PM
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Something is wrong with the diff10 server.
It shows diff1, while the utility I see on cgminer is actually less than expected for diff10.

The pool webpage says I'm mining with only 5% of the hashing rate cgminer tells me. In fact I'm seeing fewer shares in the block-solved list contributed by me.

Something's wrong.


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Ok, I switch 10diff to VarDiff now, so vardiff is running on both the original Vardiff server and on the 10diff server.  Assuming all goes well for 10diff over the next day or two, I'll roll it out to the rest of the servers.

Please report any problems.

I guess it is because it now is var diff Smiley

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Ok, I switch 10diff to VarDiff now, so vardiff is running on both the original Vardiff server and on the 10diff server.  Assuming all goes well for 10diff over the next day or two, I'll roll it out to the rest of the servers.

Please report any problems.

I guess it is because it now is var diff Smiley

What you are saying is that going to var diff broke diff10.

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