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We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
You say that because you want to grab all the coins at a lower price because near this month zec price will go very high! Maybe ETH or ETC, but not ZEC. ZEC will not go very high because every month there is a large percentage of supply entering the market. The price is at all time lows...but the market cap is at all time highs. All because of the daily supply of 7,200 ZEC coins. So price will keep going down? Is it better to just sell. I made ~ $180 for the month of Jan and now I sit $190 for 12 days. I basically been mining to keep up with price drop.
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February 12, 2017, 11:11:58 PM |
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We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
You say that because you want to grab all the coins at a lower price because near this month zec price will go very high! Maybe ETH or ETC, but not ZEC. ZEC will not go very high because every month there is a large percentage of supply entering the market. The price is at all time lows...but the market cap is at all time highs. All because of the daily supply of 7,200 ZEC coins. So price will keep going down? Is it better to just sell. I made ~ $180 for the month of Jan and now I sit $190 for 12 days. I basically been mining to keep up with price drop. Nop, claymore release will pump the coin. By the end of this month, zec will be in the range of 50$-75$
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February 12, 2017, 11:16:17 PM |
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We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
You say that because you want to grab all the coins at a lower price because near this month zec price will go very high! Maybe ETH or ETC, but not ZEC. ZEC will not go very high because every month there is a large percentage of supply entering the market. The price is at all time lows...but the market cap is at all time highs. All because of the daily supply of 7,200 ZEC coins. So price will keep going down? Is it better to just sell. I made ~ $180 for the month of Jan and now I sit $190 for 12 days. I basically been mining to keep up with price drop. Nop, claymore release will pump the coin. By the end of this month, zec will be in the range of 50$-75$ You really don't understand how mining works do you?
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February 12, 2017, 11:31:40 PM Last edit: February 13, 2017, 12:09:21 AM by roony |
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We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
You say that because you want to grab all the coins at a lower price because near this month zec price will go very high! Maybe ETH or ETC, but not ZEC. ZEC will not go very high because every month there is a large percentage of supply entering the market. The price is at all time lows...but the market cap is at all time highs. All because of the daily supply of 7,200 ZEC coins. So price will keep going down? Is it better to just sell. I made ~ $180 for the month of Jan and now I sit $190 for 12 days. I basically been mining to keep up with price drop. Nop, claymore release will pump the coin. By the end of this month, zec will be in the range of 50$-75$ You really don't understand how mining works do you? You really know all the markets react with news? good news pump, bad news dump! Are we expecting bad or good news?
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February 12, 2017, 11:39:09 PM |
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Every day 576 blocks x (10+2.5)=7200 new ZEC are mined. Faster miners or good/ bad news don't change that fact. That is pure maths.
Now look at buyside, there are only 170 btc/ 8000 zec worth of bids and 22000 zec on the sellside. That is like house of cards if you ask me. If someone starts dumping and the panic starts, in 15 minutes there is nothing left where to dump. I am not saying that is going to happen but what if?
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February 12, 2017, 11:58:56 PM |
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I have a number of Sapphire rx 480's running that have run well all winter since I set them up. Now that it is warming up, they are starting to trip out due to excessive heat generation and the air from the outside isn't as cool. I made all my own bios by simply smearing the mV of the 5th strap over 5,6,7 and smearing the mem values to be the same over the last three settings. They have worked ok, but I was wondering if anyone has a stable and more energy efficient bios they would be willing to share with me that keeps the hash rates up in the 275 H/s but gets the power consumption below 175 W/card. I do not understand the workings of all the settings on a card to fully optimize what I have and I don't know where I go to find that information except through bits a pieces shared in this forum. Any help would be appreciated. I can share back a very stable and reliable bios for the Sapphire rx 470 if that is of interest. Its one I use on all my 470 rigs. It gets each card down to 155 W/card and puts out around 250 H/s and is very stable. Anyway, any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.
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February 13, 2017, 01:05:59 AM |
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I have a number of Sapphire rx 480's running that have run well all winter since I set them up. Now that it is warming up, they are starting to trip out due to excessive heat generation and the air from the outside isn't as cool. I made all my own bios by simply smearing the mV of the 5th strap over 5,6,7 and smearing the mem values to be the same over the last three settings. They have worked ok, but I was wondering if anyone has a stable and more energy efficient bios they would be willing to share with me that keeps the hash rates up in the 275 H/s but gets the power consumption below 175 W/card. I do not understand the workings of all the settings on a card to fully optimize what I have and I don't know where I go to find that information except through bits a pieces shared in this forum. Any help would be appreciated. I can share back a very stable and reliable bios for the Sapphire rx 470 if that is of interest. Its one I use on all my 470 rigs. It gets each card down to 155 W/card and puts out around 250 H/s and is very stable. Anyway, any help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.
Basically easiest way is MSI afterburner, or other software, and just bring the core voltage down to the max you can, like -100mv. Some Rx models can run below 0.90v but not all, depends on your card. I have a 470 running at 0.88v, very stable, and it hashes (well its on ETH or XMR, but zec uses less power than ETH) under 100w. So try that out it should get you good results without too much effort, only trial and error.
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February 13, 2017, 01:21:30 AM |
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what is the hasharate for rx470 8gb and what for rx470 4gb?
Is there any difference?
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February 13, 2017, 02:23:08 AM |
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I hope that Claymore did it with the new drivers from AMD 17.1.1 so at the moment it is the best driver in the increase in speed
That would be wrong, 17.1.1 is not working with moded(even for ETH) bioses and such cards are wast majority. So 16.11.5 (or 3 ) is best shot. 16.10.1 as the last WHQL qualified drivers that allowed mod BIOS
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February 13, 2017, 02:35:38 AM |
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You guys do realize that 90% of all people mining ZEC are using AMD cards.
Even if the new version is 10x as fast, the hashrate will go up 9x anyways and there won't be much profit anyways.
Our competition is Nvidia GPUs and CPU botnets however I am sure the total hashrate of all those devices with ZEC is less than 10%.
Most Nvidia's went back to ETH mining and most botnets went back to XMR.
We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
I'd guess closer to 80% but definitely a large majority are AMD - and quite a bit of it is likely 2GB cards that CAN"T do ETH any more. NVidia has NOT moved to ETH - 1070s in particular are better off on ZEC than ETH and have been since the Nicehash NVidia miner got up to speed. There HAS been some NVidia move elsewhere though - stuff like LBRY that NVidia dominates and AMD is a non-factor.
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February 13, 2017, 09:41:26 AM |
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We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
You say that because you want to grab all the coins at a lower price because near this month zec price will go very high! Maybe ETH or ETC, but not ZEC. ZEC will not go very high because every month there is a large percentage of supply entering the market. The price is at all time lows...but the market cap is at all time highs. All because of the daily supply of 7,200 ZEC coins. So price will keep going down? Is it better to just sell. I made ~ $180 for the month of Jan and now I sit $190 for 12 days. I basically been mining to keep up with price drop. Nop, claymore release will pump the coin. By the end of this month, zec will be in the range of 50$-75$ You really don't understand how mining works do you? You really know all the markets react with news? good news pump, bad news dump! Are we expecting bad or good news? For everyone using another miner than Claymore it's definitely bad news. Even for us it's not only good news. Load on cards and probably also power usage will rise and the higer hashrate will in big parts be compensated by higher difficulty.
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February 13, 2017, 09:48:23 AM |
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We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
You say that because you want to grab all the coins at a lower price because near this month zec price will go very high! Maybe ETH or ETC, but not ZEC. ZEC will not go very high because every month there is a large percentage of supply entering the market. The price is at all time lows...but the market cap is at all time highs. All because of the daily supply of 7,200 ZEC coins. So price will keep going down? Is it better to just sell. I made ~ $180 for the month of Jan and now I sit $190 for 12 days. I basically been mining to keep up with price drop. Nop, claymore release will pump the coin. By the end of this month, zec will be in the range of 50$-75$ You really don't understand how mining works do you? You really know all the markets react with news? good news pump, bad news dump! Are we expecting bad or good news? For everyone using another miner than Claymore it's definitely bad news. Even for us it's not only good news. Load on cards and probably also power usage will rise and the higer hashrate will in big parts be compensated by higher difficulty. While waiting for Claymore's turbo-charged 12v, I am using Optiminer v1.6.2 ~ I am speechless.... this one runs like Usain Bolt and my Hawaii and Fiji cards are having a field day!
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February 13, 2017, 09:49:17 AM Last edit: February 13, 2017, 10:16:19 AM by toptek |
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We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
You say that because you want to grab all the coins at a lower price because near this month zec price will go very high! Maybe ETH or ETC, but not ZEC. ZEC will not go very high because every month there is a large percentage of supply entering the market. The price is at all time lows...but the market cap is at all time highs. All because of the daily supply of 7,200 ZEC coins. So price will keep going down? Is it better to just sell. I made ~ $180 for the month of Jan and now I sit $190 for 12 days. I basically been mining to keep up with price drop. Nop, claymore release will pump the coin. By the end of this month, zec will be in the range of 50$-75$ You really don't understand how mining works do you? You really know all the markets react with news? good news pump, bad news dump! Are we expecting bad or good news? id say don't know because of the jerk running the US right now ... so wait .... Id say bad news a lot of shit is about hit the Fan bad or good won't know till it does ... but to answer yes news plays big part in coin prices so Ive noticed.also bad news coming form the US can jack up prices or good news , even noticed the same with china, mostly with US and china's news...
We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
I hope they follow the Rules they have until march 11 th but with this Administration you have no idea what gonna happen next will it be lawful or not, help or hurt sigh ... they could extend because they don't care and figure they can do what pleases them ... so lets hope they follow rules ...
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February 13, 2017, 11:35:11 AM |
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What's significant about March 11?
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February 13, 2017, 11:55:26 AM |
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Thanks for the article. I was unaware of the future ruling by the SEC.
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February 13, 2017, 01:20:39 PM |
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id say don't know because of the jerk running the US right now ... so wait .... Id say bad news a lot of shit is about hit the Fan bad or good won't know till it does ... but to answer yes news plays big part in coin prices so Ive noticed.also bad news coming form the US can jack up prices or good news , even noticed the same with china, mostly with US and china's news...
I hope they follow the Rules they have until march 11 th but with this Administration you have no idea what gonna happen next will it be lawful or not, help or hurt sigh ... they could extend because they don't care and figure they can do what pleases them ... so lets hope they follow rules ...
I hate to burst your bubble but news here in the US really doesn't affect the crypto coins very much. The only news that really makes a differences is what comes out of China. Look at last week for example. News from China dropped the market 10% for a day and a half. Here in the US with all the temper tantrums of anti-Trump (Clinton voters) for the last 3 months the market have continued to climb. Only time it stumbles is on China's news. BTC back in September was around $650 USD. Look at it now. Even ETH is consistently above $11 USD. ZEC is on a constant down because of supply and demand. There is a constant addition to the supply and, let's face it, there are very few applications for it so the demand isn't there (yet). Not sure what the March 11th reference is to. What happens on March 11th? If it's something here in the US, I doubt it will make much difference on crypto. The US is not the power house it used to be. China is.
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February 13, 2017, 01:22:29 PM |
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We are all on "borrowed time" pretty much when it comes to mining. Our only catch at success is to sell ZEC, buy BTC and keep it and hope SEC approves the ETF and bitcoin goes to $10,000/coin.
You say that because you want to grab all the coins at a lower price because near this month zec price will go very high! Maybe ETH or ETC, but not ZEC. ZEC will not go very high because every month there is a large percentage of supply entering the market. The price is at all time lows...but the market cap is at all time highs. All because of the daily supply of 7,200 ZEC coins. So price will keep going down? Is it better to just sell. I made ~ $180 for the month of Jan and now I sit $190 for 12 days. I basically been mining to keep up with price drop. Nop, claymore release will pump the coin. By the end of this month, zec will be in the range of 50$-75$ You really don't understand how mining works do you? You really know all the markets react with news? good news pump, bad news dump! Are we expecting bad or good news? For everyone using another miner than Claymore it's definitely bad news. Even for us it's not only good news. Load on cards and probably also power usage will rise and the higer hashrate will in big parts be compensated by higher difficulty. While waiting for Claymore's turbo-charged 12v, I am using Optiminer v1.6.2 ~ I am speechless.... this one runs like Usain Bolt and my Hawaii and Fiji cards are having a field day! what OS and drivers are u running my 290 doesn't get near my 390 I tried optiminer 1.6.1 and my cards keep freezing so I switched back to claymore
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February 13, 2017, 01:33:34 PM |
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February 13, 2017, 02:44:39 PM |
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Can someone tell me how to remove a driver version totally from the pc? I mean I updated from 16.12 to 17.1 and from that point I can't update, only if I remove the AMD app, but something still remains. After I updated 17.1.1 to 17.1.2 latest version of claymore exits without any error message, but 11.0 works fine. Rolled back to 16.12, the problem still remains.
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