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February 12, 2014, 06:52:28 PM
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[If nVidia is really looking to miners, please tell them to get drama out of the way.

Nobody here fundamentally cares about marketing, drama, fanboyism,

I beg to differ. Mention nVidia on litecoinmining and similar subreddits and get laughed at. They don't even seem to care if their arguments are outdated or untrue. It's that bad, really. The only nVidia friendly community are the DOGE guys.

Christian


We kind of owned the Maxcoin launch and I'm pretty sure some people made thousands of dollars, all thanks to you. So I guess we're the ones laughing now...

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February 12, 2014, 06:52:53 PM
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[If nVidia is really looking to miners, please tell them to get drama out of the way.

Nobody here fundamentally cares about marketing, drama, fanboyism,

I beg to differ. Mention nVidia on litecoinmining and similar subreddits and get laughed at. They don't even seem to care if their arguments are outdated or untrue. It's that bad, really. The only nVidia friendly community are the DOGE guys.

Christian

Oh, I see. The underdog perspective...

Well, I love Nvidia gaming and Physx and devices that "just work", I'm looking at cuda (and NSight) motivated by your excellent effort, however they neglected integer instructions on their devices. It's not so bad because you're brilliant at making lemonade out of this lemon, not that it's Nvidia merit

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February 12, 2014, 07:03:52 PM
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Are you guys mining Microcoin with cudaminer? If so, could anyone link their .cmd settings?

cudaminer --algo=scrypt-jane:MRC -l K4x32 -C 0 -o stratum+tcp://site:1234 -u user.user -p pass

Mined MRC for 18 hours yesterday with 2 660 ti's and came up with half a million. Just sold 250,000 for 0.25 LTC. Normally I make .2 LTC in 24 hours Smiley

Plus I like the big big numbers...makes it feel like I'm actually doing something haha.
Anyone Solo Mining MRC?

How is your bat settings for solo mining?
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February 12, 2014, 07:07:24 PM
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So what is everyone mining right now?

I am mining some MicroCoin at the moment because I find the coin has potential.

A newly setup rig for a friend is test-mining Yacoin on some low end cards until the six GTX 660Ti cards arrive.

Christian


Me too, Christian. But diff is almost double since few days. Harder to get MRC and the price still the same. Gonna hold it for a while and it will explode like VTC. Very nice coins.
Btw who still mining Maxcoin right now?
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February 12, 2014, 07:20:08 PM
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A good start would be a complete CUDA engine with "4.0+" capabilities. What's does that 4.0+ mean? A device that has uncrippled integer performance (my 760 is crippled because only on 3.5 there are shifters???  Roll Eyes) that without hardware assist already offers 500Kh/s scrypt for 200€ (compared with the 470Kh/s at 170€ for R9-270). That '+' means dedicated transistors for one or more SHA2 units (if I have a damn clue what I'm talking about  Tongue) and whatever other acceleration possible without being too costly.

Then, resale value and power usage. For resale value, perhaps video out is necessary. At worst I can still sell it as a used videocard, unlike those Tesla server units. Power usage means unlocked undervolting, power/performance profiles, etc...
What you want is some sort of asic build by nvidia... a graphic card without video out lol

these things already exist, as Tesla Compute cards. Wink

and the mining market seems to be asking for exactly this, minus the huge price tag.

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February 12, 2014, 07:22:13 PM
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Well, I love Nvidia gaming and Physx and devices that "just work", I'm looking at cuda (and NSight) motivated by your excellent effort, however they neglected integer instructions on their devices. It's not so bad because you're brilliant at making lemonade out of this lemon, not that it's Nvidia merit

the neglect for integer performance really makes a huge difference in the SHA256 and Keccak hashing (2 times performance difference on AMD vs nVidia single-GPU high end models) but it's much less of an impact with the memory-limited scrypt algorithm. Look how close the 780Ti gets to an R9 290X (in scrypt performance, not in price)

and the there's the upcoming product launch of the Maxwell chip generation. Just wait for it (one more week).

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February 12, 2014, 07:23:09 PM
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We want one of these cases
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Bitcoin+Frames/BitCoin%2FAltcoin+Scrypt+Mining+Rig+Frame+-+8x+GPU+?productId=59694

And some nice gpus, either high power, or lower power with huge memory. Mix and match for good scrypt, and scrypt-jane

Owner of: cudamining.co.uk
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We want one of these cases
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Bitcoin+Frames/BitCoin%2FAltcoin+Scrypt+Mining+Rig+Frame+-+8x+GPU+?productId=59694

And some nice gpus, either high power, or lower power with huge memory. Mix and match for good scrypt, and scrypt-jane

I want more than one GPU per card primarily. See ASUS MARS, for example. Except it should be a little more high end than this. Or a little more power efficient. Or both.

The concept also worked fabulously with the 7990 dual GPU models, which are the best scrypt miners to date.
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February 12, 2014, 07:28:02 PM
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Harder to get MRC and the price still the same. Gonna hold it for a while and it will explode like VTC. Very nice coins.
Btw who still mining Maxcoin right now?

I bought some VTC at 0.005 and now they're at 0.004. Hmm

MRC: my stash is at 32 millions now. Good that I mined them while they were still easy Wink

Maxcoin: don't even mention... This currency is done for.  Ah, the memories of good times.

Christian

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February 12, 2014, 07:34:33 PM
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Mined MRC for 18 hours yesterday with 2 660 ti's and came up with half a million. Just sold 250,000 for 0.25 LTC. Normally I make .2 LTC in 24 hours Smiley

Plus I like the big big numbers...makes it feel like I'm actually doing something haha.
Anyone Solo Mining MRC?

awesome, sorry my ignorance, are you mining solo? and would you be able to share your setup? I'm still in the research phase, I'm wondering if it is really profitable after all the electricity, etc. 0.2 LTC does not sound very profitable to pay bills.

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February 12, 2014, 07:36:45 PM
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Harder to get MRC and the price still the same. Gonna hold it for a while and it will explode like VTC. Very nice coins.
Btw who still mining Maxcoin right now?

I bought some VTC at 0.005 and now they're at 0.004. Hmm

MRC: my stash is at 32 millions now. Good that I mined them while they were still easy Wink

Maxcoin: don't even mention... This currency is done for.  Ah, the memories of good times.

Christian



Christian, should I sell? Got 10 of them. :-) Maxcoins that is...
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February 12, 2014, 07:54:14 PM
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Harder to get MRC and the price still the same. Gonna hold it for a while and it will explode like VTC. Very nice coins.
Btw who still mining Maxcoin right now?

I bought some VTC at 0.005 and now they're at 0.004. Hmm

MRC: my stash is at 32 millions now. Good that I mined them while they were still easy Wink

Maxcoin: don't even mention... This currency is done for.  Ah, the memories of good times.

Christian



I don't think so. It is still profitable if you mine with AMDs. And it requires less power. VTC will rise again. Now everything goes slowly because bad news with BTC. But next week after bitstamp back to normal it will back again.
I got 18mil MRCs after 3 days. It's much harder now. IMO scrypt coins are done for. Even DOGE will die.
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February 12, 2014, 08:06:12 PM
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We want one of these cases
http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Bitcoin+Frames/BitCoin%2FAltcoin+Scrypt+Mining+Rig+Frame+-+8x+GPU+?productId=59694

And some nice gpus, either high power, or lower power with huge memory. Mix and match for good scrypt, and scrypt-jane

I want more than one GPU per card primarily. See ASUS MARS, for example. Except it should be a little more high end than this. Or a little more power efficient. Or both.

The concept also worked fabulously with the 7990 dual GPU models, which are the best scrypt miners to date.

I am lookingforward to the performance figures of the 790 coming out soon.
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February 12, 2014, 08:06:58 PM
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Anyone here in my thread mining not just for fun, but seriously for profit as well?  Having a farms of AMD cards in your garage or basement?

nVidia is looking to get in touch with miners to interview them about their expectations for mining related products.  Just be aware that you would be helping nVidia with your information and not your favorite GPU manufacturer AMD Wink

PM me with a brief summary of what you're mining and how and I can get you in touch.

If nVidia is really looking to miners, please tell them to get drama out of the way.

Nobody here fundamentally cares about marketing, drama, fanboyism, "favorite GPU manufacturers", divide and conquer to put people into camps and everything Nvidia is used to. I could go on saying that yes, so does AMD and Intel, Ubuntu vs Windows is equally idiotic and much more. The fact that "so do others", does not invalidate the point.

Coin mining is not about NVidia, PC gaming or Ubuntu. What matters is the point of view of the miner: ROI, hassle-free, getting out of the way, etc... I will buy Nvidia devices if it's the best for me, not for them.

Your last points here are exactly what they would want to hear from you and are probably the entire basis of this attempt to reach out in general.

It would let them decide if an update to CUDA 4.0+ would be the best approach or if they should look into more miner specific hardware designs tha can retain a level of flexibility to run different algo's.

Your concerns mentioned earlier are worth mentioning to them as well. They are valid points and can really assist NVidia in marketing this in a manner best for all miners. That said, there IS going to have to be a  "Look what we can do!!" approach to things... if they don't do it no seriously invested miner is going to take them seriously. This means you WILL see an "NVidia is better campaign" it's inevitable when entering a market you are not a big player in yet.
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February 12, 2014, 08:07:30 PM
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Harder to get MRC and the price still the same. Gonna hold it for a while and it will explode like VTC. Very nice coins.
Btw who still mining Maxcoin right now?

I bought some VTC at 0.005 and now they're at 0.004. Hmm

MRC: my stash is at 32 millions now. Good that I mined them while they were still easy Wink

Maxcoin: don't even mention... This currency is done for.  Ah, the memories of good times.

Christian



I don't think so. It is still profitable if you mine with AMDs. And it requires less power. VTC will rise again. Now everything goes slowly because bad news with BTC. But next week after bitstamp back to normal it will back again.
I got 18mil MRCs after 3 days. It's much harder now. IMO scrypt coins are done for. Even DOGE will die.


Yeah, doing Max, Dodge and Vert.

And there's this about Max.

http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/1730/started-war-maxcoin-max-kaiser
http://forum.max-coin.net/index.php/topic,42.0.html


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February 12, 2014, 08:08:41 PM
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Harder to get MRC and the price still the same. Gonna hold it for a while and it will explode like VTC. Very nice coins.
Btw who still mining Maxcoin right now?

I bought some VTC at 0.005 and now they're at 0.004. Hmm

MRC: my stash is at 32 millions now. Good that I mined them while they were still easy Wink

Maxcoin: don't even mention... This currency is done for.  Ah, the memories of good times.

Christian



Christian, should I sell? Got 10 of them. :-) Maxcoins that is...

I think so...I dump mine, at or over 0.001.
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February 12, 2014, 08:12:36 PM
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So what is everyone mining right now?

I am mining some MicroCoin at the moment because I find the coin has potential.

A newly setup rig for a friend is test-mining Yacoin on some low end cards until the six GTX 660Ti cards arrive.

Christian


I'm on microcoin too, doing almost 200 KHps with a GTX660. That's around 180 kMRC /day (4 to 5 mBTC at the going rates on poloniex). Still better profit than MAX. Smiley

I wonder though if I got the settings right (--algo=scrypt-jane:MRC -d gtx660 -i 0 -H 2 -m 1 -s 1 -C 0)
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February 12, 2014, 08:17:38 PM
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Anyone here in my thread mining not just for fun, but seriously for profit as well?  Having a farms of AMD cards in your garage or basement?

nVidia is looking to get in touch with miners to interview them about their expectations for mining related products.  Just be aware that you would be helping nVidia with your information and not your favorite GPU manufacturer AMD Wink

PM me with a brief summary of what you're mining and how and I can get you in touch.

If nVidia is really looking to miners, please tell them to get drama out of the way.

Nobody here fundamentally cares about marketing, drama, fanboyism, "favorite GPU manufacturers", divide and conquer to put people into camps and everything Nvidia is used to. I could go on saying that yes, so does AMD and Intel, Ubuntu vs Windows is equally idiotic and much more. The fact that "so do others", does not invalidate the point.

Coin mining is not about NVidia, PC gaming or Ubuntu. What matters is the point of view of the miner: ROI, hassle-free, getting out of the way, etc... I will buy Nvidia devices if it's the best for me, not for them.

Your last points here are exactly what they would want to hear from you and are probably the entire basis of this attempt to reach out in general.

It would let them decide if an update to CUDA 4.0+ would be the best approach or if they should look into more miner specific hardware designs tha can retain a level of flexibility to run different algo's.

Your concerns mentioned earlier are worth mentioning to them as well. They are valid points and can really assist NVidia in marketing this in a manner best for all miners. That said, there IS going to have to be a  "Look what we can do!!" approach to things... if they don't do it no seriously invested miner is going to take them seriously. This means you WILL see an "NVidia is better campaign" it's inevitable when entering a market you are not a big player in yet.
Yes, of course there is going to be a "the way it is supposed to be mined" campaign and they want to be profitable shovel sellers. However I expect to pay for substance, not for marketing.

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February 12, 2014, 08:19:50 PM
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A good software engineer like Chris costs at least $85/hour in the US. I don't think that the bounty being offered here is fair! You guys made tons of money and based on the donations seen here the developer did not make more than $500 dollars. If writing software was easy then the cost of Bitcoin solutions would be lower including the cost of asics.

To be fair the bounty for this type of work should be 10 BTC or equivalent in LTC.
I think you misunderstood me a bit - this wasn't directed to Christian directly.
I made 15€ with maxcoin, so I think your idea of "tons of money" is different than mine Smiley
However I see your point there - it's not much of a offering on individual level. The idea would be to gather hundreds of people willing to donate.
I think I'm backing out from organizing this for a couple of reasons, biggest being that no one would seriously give it out to the community if they can create it in all silence, split their hashing power to multiple pools (assuming it would work in ordinary pools) to avoid detection and just keep mining for months with huge profits. You wouldn't sell it for 10 BTC, you could milk out much, much more if you'd keep it steady and silent instead of hashing at one pool with 100x better speed than the other guy = )
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February 12, 2014, 08:21:38 PM
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A good start would be a complete CUDA engine with "4.0+" capabilities. What's does that 4.0+ mean? A device that has uncrippled integer performance (my 760 is crippled because only on 3.5 there are shifters???  Roll Eyes) that without hardware assist already offers 500Kh/s scrypt for 200€ (compared with the 470Kh/s at 170€ for R9-270). That '+' means dedicated transistors for one or more SHA2 units (if I have a damn clue what I'm talking about  Tongue) and whatever other acceleration possible without being too costly.

Then, resale value and power usage. For resale value, perhaps video out is necessary. At worst I can still sell it as a used videocard, unlike those Tesla server units. Power usage means unlocked undervolting, power/performance profiles, etc...
What you want is some sort of asic build by nvidia... a graphic card without video out lol

these things already exist, as Tesla Compute cards. Wink

and the mining market seems to be asking for exactly this, minus the huge price tag.

Christian

I'd totally fill a PC with Tesla K40's if they weren't $5k each: http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-900-22081-2250-000-Active-Computing-Processor/dp/B00GR8FHB6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1392236445&sr=8-1&keywords=tesla+k40
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