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February 20, 2014, 06:58:03 PM |
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One change in the new SM will be especially consequential for certain customers—and possibly for the entire GPU market. Maxwell restores a key execution resource that was left out of Kepler: the barrel shifter. The absence of this hardware doesn't seem to have negative consequences for graphics, but it means Kepler isn't well-suited to the make-work algorithms used by Litecoin and other digital currencies. AMD's GCN architecture handles this work quite well, and Radeons are currently quite scarce in North America since coin miners have bought up all of the graphics cards. The barrel shifter returns in Maxwell, and Nvidia claims the GM107 can mine digital currencies quite nicely, especially given its focus on power efficiency. Would really like to hear Christians thoughts on this.
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February 20, 2014, 07:12:00 PM |
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The Barrel shifter is not present on 3.0 cards like the GTX760, but is already on 3.5 Titans. You can see that on Wikipedia.
I may be wrong since I don't program CUDA neither I have a 750Ti in hand, but my impression is that NVidia catched up and fixed it's own problems, not surpassed (by much) the already efficient ATI design. Turning the tables would depend in impressive engineering feat by NVidia but also ATI sloppiness in it's current line, which nobody managed to point out yet. Perhaps high latency on memory accesses is the only thing holding ATI back on mining.
Then there's always the physical limit of using the same TSMC silicon and 28nm technology.
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February 20, 2014, 07:18:41 PM |
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The Barrel shifter is not present on 3.0 cards like the GTX760, but is already on 3.5 Titans. You can see that on Wikipedia.
I may be wrong since I don't program CUDA neither I have a 750Ti in hand, but my impression is that NVidia catched up and fixed it's own problems, not surpassed (by much) the already efficient ATI design. Turning the tables would depend in impressive engineering feat by NVidia but also ATI sloppiness in it's current line, which nobody managed to point out yet.
Then there's always the physical limit of using the same TSMC silicon and 28nm technology.
I'd be happy if both are on an even playing field , that would likely normalize prices, unless even Nvidia and AMD combined can't meet demand from miners (which I doubt).
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February 20, 2014, 07:19:03 PM |
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February 20, 2014, 07:22:44 PM |
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The Barrel shifter is not present on 3.0 cards like the GTX760, but is already on 3.5 Titans. You can see that on Wikipedia.
I may be wrong since I don't program CUDA neither I have a 750Ti in hand, but my impression is that NVidia catched up and fixed it's own problems, not surpassed (by much) the already efficient ATI design. Turning the tables would depend in impressive engineering feat by NVidia but also ATI sloppiness in it's current line, which nobody managed to point out yet.
Then there's always the physical limit of using the same TSMC silicon and 28nm technology.
I'd be happy if both are on an even playing field , that would likely normalize prices, unless even Nvidia and AMD combined can't meet demand from miners (which I doubt). Indeed. That's exactly what I hope for.
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February 20, 2014, 07:29:43 PM |
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hello, newbie here i'm using cudaminer to mine LTC using my GTX 760 and so far no problem however i just bought Bioshock Infinite and want to play it i'm using -i 1 as option, but the game only ran @ 10-20 fps is there any other option i can use to increase my fps? or telling cudaminer to "only use remaining GPU power"? because Bioshock only use 50% GPU power to maintain 60 fps i'm hoping to use remaining 50% to mine coins Thank you
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February 20, 2014, 07:34:23 PM |
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hello, newbie here i'm using cudaminer to mine LTC using my GTX 760 and so far no problem however i just bought Bioshock Infinite and want to play it i'm using -i 1 as option, but the game only ran @ 10-20 fps is there any other option i can use to increase my fps? or telling cudaminer to "only use remaining GPU power"? because Bioshock only use 50% GPU power to maintain 60 fps i'm hoping to use remaining 50% to mine coins Thank you On your Config take a alook at reducing the "SMX" number: ex. -l K7x32 You can try dropping the 7 to something lower. This can sometimes help. Some games just can't really deal well with sharing gfx. BF4 or BF3 are a great example... my Titan has more then enough power to play them but not with CUDAMiner running at even super low settings. While League of Legends I can just use my normal config and switch it to -i 0 and boom frame rate loss but well within playable.
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February 20, 2014, 07:46:12 PM |
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I wanna see Christian DO A BARREL SHIFT!!! LOL nVidia calls it a funnel shifter. Christian
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February 20, 2014, 07:47:15 PM |
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On your Config take a alook at reducing the "SMX" number:
ex. -l K7x32
You can try dropping the 7 to something lower. This can sometimes help. Some games just can't really deal well with sharing gfx. BF4 or BF3 are a great example... my Titan has more then enough power to play them but not with CUDAMiner running at even super low settings. While League of Legends I can just use my normal config and switch it to -i 0 and boom frame rate loss but well within playable.
Thanks! but not working still got 10-20 fps using K1x32 (i use K6x32 as default) reducing it to K1x16 makes no difference in fps too
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cbuchner1 (OP)
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February 20, 2014, 07:55:18 PM |
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The barrel shifter returns in Maxwell, and Nvidia claims the GM107 can mine digital currencies quite nicely, especially given its focus on power efficiency. Would really like to hear Christians thoughts on this. the funnel shifter is already present in GT 780, 780 Ti, Geforce Titan, Geforce GT 630 (GK208), Geforce GT 635 OEM (GK208), Geforce GT 640 (GK208). It helps with power efficiency and mining speed, but its instruction throughput is very limited compared to e.g. floating point instructions. When you've been mining with the T kernel, you've already used the funnel shifter. Christian
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February 20, 2014, 07:59:51 PM |
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Ah, makes sense. So the performance boost on the 750ti due to this new instruction is already accounted for by using the T kernel
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February 20, 2014, 08:04:04 PM |
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What clocks are you running? I bet you can do better with some more time and of course, after Mr Buchner improves cudaminer for Maxwell cards. (looking forward to that!) Well stock on my card is 1189 base / 1268 boost and upped that by 36. Memory stock is 5400 and I upped that by 516... And this morning I had it up to 660 or so...
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February 20, 2014, 08:09:40 PM |
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What clocks are you running? I bet you can do better with some more time and of course, after Mr Buchner improves cudaminer for Maxwell cards. (looking forward to that!) Well stock on my card is 1189 base / 1268 boost and upped that by 36. Memory stock is 5400 and I upped that by 516... And this morning I had it up to 660 or so... Nice, looking forward to getting one.
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February 20, 2014, 08:18:10 PM |
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Do anyone know a good cudaminer config for a Gigabyte 780 Ti OC?
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February 20, 2014, 08:35:31 PM |
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I see some people complaining about performance decrease with the new nvidia driver, but I have found the opposite. I have a pair of Gigabyte 770 OC 4GB and I am getting 40-60 KH/s more per card with the update.
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February 20, 2014, 09:28:36 PM |
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Do anyone know a good cudaminer config for a Gigabyte 780 Ti OC?
What do you want to mine exactly ? (configuration depends of the algo which is used)
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February 20, 2014, 09:30:03 PM Last edit: February 20, 2014, 09:44:25 PM by cbuchner1 |
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I present a friend's first nVidia-only rig. Six 750Ti from Gigabyte (WindForce with 6 Pin power). Yes, we've built it into a suitcase. Call it a "travel rig" if you want. Currently this runs Linux and we are getting 3kHash/s Yacoin performance per card with the factory overclock. We may have to switch to Windows for better overclocking possibilies. The cards run cool at 56 deg C, even the ones that have almost no air breathing room. Yacoin could be interesting in the future. Today was a price spike to triple the usual price. https://bter.com/trade/yac_btcAlso Yacoin is back on cryptsy.com now. I am supposed to be remote administering this rig. But at the moment we do not know how (he's behind one router and one WLAN repeater, making this tricky). Maybe that's the final straw that will make me put a remote administration/monitoring API into cudaminer Christian
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ivanlabrie
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February 20, 2014, 09:37:08 PM |
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I'm mining both yac and pts... Nice results, looking forward to higher clocks. Why no h81 btc pro with risers and 6 750tis?
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cbuchner1 (OP)
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February 20, 2014, 09:39:24 PM |
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I'm mining both yac and pts... Nice results, looking forward to higher clocks. Why no h81 btc pro with risers and 6 750tis? So far we have no experience with risers, and I've seen reports that nVidia cards have been crashing on risers. No experiments. We wanted to get mining fast. An extension to 10 GPUs is a possibility, there are currenty 2 unused PCI-x x16 slots on each mainboard. This will require some risers. Christian
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February 20, 2014, 09:39:36 PM |
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In two days the gtx 750 ti is gonna reach 200$ for sure... so abusive... already gone up on amazon !!
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