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September 30, 2013, 10:43:54 PM
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time to squirt out your agenda mate.. why the hate ?    Still just want no one to buy miners so you can mine easier?

that's been your mantra since the beginning

Hate? No hate. And I dont mine. Im still convinced precious few asic customers will make a BTC denominated profit.

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September 30, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
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The whole world just one shipment apart...

next diff = ROI - 30%.

No, one week of delay doesnt mean such high ROI change when difficulty grows by 30% in meantime

Indeed. But the next diff will be approx 30% higher and you don't have your miner yet. You'll start (at best) at 30% lower than today.

It's a race condition: if they can make the chips work 30% faster before the next diff change and you get you miner in the meantime, you won't have lost revenue (grossly). If they fail, you will be worse off.

Maybe next time they'll know better than making claims they can't keep.

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September 30, 2013, 10:53:02 PM
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time to squirt out your agenda mate.. why the hate ?    Still just want no one to buy miners so you can mine easier?

that's been your mantra since the beginning

Hate? No hate. And I dont mine. Im still convinced precious few asic customers will make a BTC denominated profit.

And that isn't the be all end all of success in mining...  I'm very happy with my two Day1 Jupiters whether I get your holy BTC denominated profit or not.. put that into your ROI-calc-o-meter and smoke it!!


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September 30, 2013, 11:01:50 PM
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PSU should operate at 60-80% to get maximum effeciency and cool

The difference between 50% load and 100% load on most modern 80 Plus Gold PSU is about 1%.

So 1% of 850W = 8.5W.   That is about 74 kWh per year.   At $0.10 per kWh it is a grand savings of $7.40.

have you accounted heat cost and noise ?
1% is not true

70% load 91% eff, temp 45c
95% load 88% eff, temp 59c

read review, please Smiley

you save 30$ usd on psu and take loss 120$ usd per year or more

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September 30, 2013, 11:14:02 PM
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Most people ordered a 350GH/s jupiter, some others ordered a 400GH/s jupiter.

The fact that everyone with a jupiter ordered is going to get much more, how can anyone complain??

At the weekend I was a bit uncharitable in my comments towards KNC, as we were all being kept in the dark. If anyone from KNC is reading, I'd like to apologise for that.

If we can get a stable 550GH/s, I think that's amazing. If they can push it any higher - pure magic! How could anyone be dissatified with 30-50% bonus hashrate on what they ordered?

My best regards to all at KNC for their efforts.

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September 30, 2013, 11:14:55 PM
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Don't know if this has been posted, but during the presentation it was 843 Watt:

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September 30, 2013, 11:15:03 PM
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They have already upped the specs on their store page to 550GH/S for Jupiter. Live hash is now 495GH/S average
It will be interesting to see how far they can push it before she fries

                               
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September 30, 2013, 11:16:31 PM
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The fact that everyone with a jupiter ordered is going to get much more, how can anyone complain??

Well, they did promise to ship in September, and that didn't happen. Let's see how long it takes them to actually ship the orders.

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September 30, 2013, 11:18:34 PM
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The fact that everyone with a jupiter ordered is going to get much more, how can anyone complain??

Well, they did promise to ship in September, and that didn't happen. Let's see how long it takes them to actually ship the orders.
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September 30, 2013, 11:18:54 PM
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Indeed. But the next diff will be approx 30% higher and you don't have your miner yet. You'll start (at best) at 30% lower than today.

It's a race condition: if they can make the chips work 30% faster before the next diff change and you get you miner in the meantime, you won't have lost revenue (grossly). If they fail, you will be worse off.

Maybe next time they'll know better than making claims they can't keep.
What are you talking about, every calculator I have seen says the Oct delivery KNCminer is going to pay for itself.
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September 30, 2013, 11:19:34 PM
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The fact that everyone with a jupiter ordered is going to get much more, how can anyone complain??

Well, they did promise to ship in September, and that didn't happen. Let's see how long it takes them to actually ship the orders.
They also promised 400GH/s and that didn't happen either - it's much more  Shocked Can't you be fair and trade off one against the other?

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September 30, 2013, 11:20:41 PM
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The fact that everyone with a jupiter ordered is going to get much more, how can anyone complain??

Well, they did promise to ship in September, and that didn't happen. Let's see how long it takes them to actually ship the orders.

Well they did say shipping today on the vid, but I guess it will be a few more days assuming there are no unforeseen problems with the first build.

                               
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September 30, 2013, 11:28:16 PM
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I just got home after a long drive. Best news ever!

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September 30, 2013, 11:29:20 PM
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I just got home after a long drive. Best news ever!

Do you have your knc in hand?

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September 30, 2013, 11:31:28 PM
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I just got home after a long drive. Best news ever!

Do you have your knc in hand?

I hope that, several shareholders are in a groupbuy running by blastbob xD
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September 30, 2013, 11:32:24 PM
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Hmm. If it did 570Gh with 850W@wall maybe it could do (1.15*570) well over 650Gh with a 1000w PSU ?
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September 30, 2013, 11:33:36 PM
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PSU should operate at 60-80% to get maximum effeciency and cool

The difference between 50% load and 100% load on most modern 80 Plus Gold PSU is about 1%.

So 1% of 850W = 8.5W.   That is about 74 kWh per year.   At $0.10 per kWh it is a grand savings of $7.40.

have you accounted heat cost and noise ?
1% is not true

70% load 91% eff, temp 45c
95% load 88% eff, temp 59c

read review, please Smiley

you save 30$ usd on psu and take loss 120$ usd per year or more

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=350

Ok so 3% = 25 W.  Not sure how you got a bogus $120 per year or more out of that.  If your power costs that much then you have no hope of making a profit no matter what PSU you use.
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September 30, 2013, 11:35:02 PM
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Have you seen this bullshit. First prototype/finished miner of the production line and they are been accused of stealing customers ROI etc.
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September 30, 2013, 11:35:27 PM
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I just got home after a long drive. Best news ever!

Do you have your knc in hand?

I hope that, several shareholders are in a groupbuy running by blastbob xD

Safe answer.. They will be hashing in the end of this week Smiley

I dont really care to much about the end of september date. I still have BFL equipment on wait. Who cares about "1 week"

I will be bringing the 1500w PSU to see if it can do some good Wink

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September 30, 2013, 11:40:10 PM
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First of all, as I've doubted KnC will accomplish this I must say: Congratulations KnC. If somebody told me this morning they will produce fully working prototype by sundown I would think he is on drugs. Thought KnC were slackers, turned out they were tight as a drum. To manage to do this in a single day shows they were fully prepared, when they got a chance to walk the walk they did it. They haven't over-delivered, but considering machine has 25% hash-rate increase compensating eventual 25% difficulty increase caused by being late you can say they simply delivered.

Thank god (for us who bet they'll fail) they haven't done this on Friday, cause we would lose the bet. You can say bitbet resolving to "No" leaves, in the end, everyone happy: Us for winning the bet and KnC customers getting their machines soon. Good job KnC!

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