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October 01, 2013, 02:37:49 PM
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Can anyone estimate how many chips per wafer can KnC make?

KNC has never reported the die size.  If someone wants to destroy their new miner and break open the package we could find out real quick.
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October 01, 2013, 02:40:30 PM
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Earlier on knc said they'd engage us early on in the development process... but then didn't, and wrote their own driver for cgminer. I can't predict what they'll do now and how that will impact on whether code will be merged or maintained in cgminer, but I will be asking for them to provide their driver code publicly.

doesnt really matter though right? once you get your hands on one, you can make your own awesome driver anyway....
There'd be no point buying one now - it won't get back it's BTC cost - since difficulty will sky rocket in the next month or so - and they don't want us involved so I can't see one appearing on the doorstep.

(a 200% jump would mean that after that 200% jump, 469GH/s would make 22BTC in 100 days if after that jump it rose 30% each 11 days ... then subtract 850W for 100 days ...)

So ... yeah, except that they are required to provide the source code to anyone with one, that asks for the code, I can't see much else happening.

As a developer I certainly have no interest in giving someone $1000's of dollars to update their driver ... and never get that $1000's back.
That's paying someone when you do work for them - yeah not gonna happen.
I prefer to simply not lose the BTC.

I offered ckolivas my mercury for a couple days to make a better driver if it would help the community.
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October 01, 2013, 02:46:18 PM
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when knc is over with this hash attack the business model of maybe more than one competitor is history. hashfast, cointerra and all the others, that have no product to ship currently ----  you are screwed, aren´t you ?  Kiss
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October 01, 2013, 02:50:15 PM
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Earlier on knc said they'd engage us early on in the development process... but then didn't, and wrote their own driver for cgminer. I can't predict what they'll do now and how that will impact on whether code will be merged or maintained in cgminer, but I will be asking for them to provide their driver code publicly.

I hope the API on the KNC machines is the same as on cgminer.  Smiley

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October 01, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
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when knc is over with this hash attack the business model of maybe more than one competitor is history. hashfast, cointerra and all the others, that have no product to ship currently ----  you are screwed, aren´t you ?  Kiss

Not at all. First of all those companies all sold enough preorders that they have nothing to worry about no matter what happens.

Secondly, as difficulty shoots up, power consumption will become key again. Not exactly KnC's strong suit. If anything, a few months from here its KnC that will have put themselves out of business while the others, assuming they can deliver on their performance/w promises, will still have products that can be sold, even though obviously the margins wont be anywhere near where they are today.
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October 01, 2013, 02:51:04 PM
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Does anybody know what size and weight the shipment of one Jupiter is???
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October 01, 2013, 02:53:21 PM
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Anybody received a UPS tracking number yet ?

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October 01, 2013, 02:53:54 PM
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when knc is over with this hash attack the business model of maybe more than one competitor is history. hashfast, cointerra and all the others, that have no product to ship currently ----  you are screwed, aren´t you ?  Kiss

It likely will dry up future sales until they start shipping but both of the companies you listed have enough funds (preorders) to make it to delivery.  However if anyone pulls a BFL and falls on their face there is no ability to bring in more funding by extended preorders and upgrades.  My guess is both HF and Cointerra deliver.   I don't think every ASIC company today will still be here in 2015.   It is relatively easy to make a fortune when difficulty is low, demand is high and margins are 99.9% or higher.  As the difficulty skyrockets, demand falls and margins collapse not every company will make it.
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October 01, 2013, 02:56:12 PM
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Does anybody know what size and weight the shipment of one Jupiter is???


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October 01, 2013, 02:56:16 PM
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Anybody received a UPS tracking number yet ?

Overdelivering now, no need for trackings.

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October 01, 2013, 02:57:13 PM
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Anybody received a UPS tracking number yet ?

Overdelivering now, no need for trackings.

lol.))
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October 01, 2013, 02:58:58 PM
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Does anybody know what size and weight the shipment of one Jupiter is???

It's on their website:

Size:500 x 400 x 200
Weight:4 kg.

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October 01, 2013, 03:01:08 PM
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when knc is over with this hash attack the business model of maybe more than one competitor is history. hashfast, cointerra and all the others, that have no product to ship currently ----  you are screwed, aren´t you ?  Kiss

It likely will dry up future sales until they start shipping but both of the companies you listed have enough funds (preorders) to make it to delivery.  However if anyone pulls a BFL and falls on their face there is no ability to bring in more funding by extended preorders and upgrades.  My guess is both HF and Cointerra deliver.   I don't think every ASIC company today will still be here in 2015.   It is relatively easy to make a fortune when difficulty is low, demand is high and margins are 99.9% or higher.  As the difficulty skyrockets, demand falls and margins collapse not every company will make it.

competiton is good. and i don´t want anything bad to happen to anymore customers nor genuine companies.

it´s just... after 600 pages of hate and evil ... i couldn´t resist ...

(a lot of knc customers will spit back on other threads now i guess... RECONQUISTA  Grin
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October 01, 2013, 03:01:22 PM
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when knc is over with this hash attack the business model of maybe more than one competitor is history. hashfast, cointerra and all the others, that have no product to ship currently ----  you are screwed, aren´t you ?  Kiss

It likely will dry up future sales until they start shipping but both of the companies you listed have enough funds (preorders) to make it to delivery.  However if anyone pulls a BFL and falls on their face there is no ability to bring in more funding by extended preorders and upgrades.  My guess is both HF and Cointerra deliver.   I don't think every ASIC company today will still be here in 2015.   It is relatively easy to make a fortune when difficulty is low, demand is high and margins are 99.9% or higher.  As the difficulty skyrockets, demand falls and margins collapse not every company will make it.

Cointerra reeks of a future avalanche of excuses

but sure, I hope all my miner competition waste their money on them instead of getting real hashing miners.


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October 01, 2013, 03:04:07 PM
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Does anybody know what size and weight the shipment of one Jupiter is???

50x40x20cm and a bit over 7kg - that's just the miner, without the shipping box.
Confirmed over the phone a few days ago.

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October 01, 2013, 03:09:55 PM
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I offered ckolivas my mercury for a couple days to make a better driver if it would help the community.
I want to contribute - I'll pay You 1BTC if You do as You wrote.
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October 01, 2013, 03:13:07 PM
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when knc is over with this hash attack the business model of maybe more than one competitor is history. hashfast, cointerra and all the others, that have no product to ship currently ----  you are screwed, aren´t you ?  Kiss
It likely will dry up future sales until they start shipping but both of the companies you listed have enough funds (preorders) to make it to delivery.  However if anyone pulls a BFL and falls on their face there is no ability to bring in more funding by extended preorders and upgrades.  My guess is both HF and Cointerra deliver.   I don't think every ASIC company today will still be here in 2015.   It is relatively easy to make a fortune when difficulty is low, demand is high and margins are 99.9% or higher.  As the difficulty skyrockets, demand falls and margins collapse not every company will make it.

Cointerra reeks of a future avalanche of excuses

but sure, I hope all my miner competition waste their money on them instead of getting real hashing miners.

LOL, I do, too. Throw more money to slick marketing and .... they still don't accept CC payments. Good option go for those guys.
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October 01, 2013, 03:13:46 PM
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I offered ckolivas my mercury for a couple days to make a better driver if it would help the community.
I want to contribute - I'll pay You 1BTC if You do as You wrote.

thanks man! i do appreciate that!

im dead serious, if ckovilas wants a unit to write a driver, hes got one. im in the first batch and should have my unit before the 15th this month.
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October 01, 2013, 03:15:33 PM
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I offered ckolivas my mercury for a couple days to make a better driver if it would help the community.
I want to contribute - I'll pay You 1BTC if You do as You wrote.

thanks man! i do appreciate that!

im dead serious, if ckovilas wants a unit to write a driver, hes got one. im in the first batch and should have my unit before the 15th this month.

I'm in too, if you're serious I will donate 2BTC - 1 to you and 1 to Kano/ckolivas for their efforts.


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October 01, 2013, 03:23:18 PM
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So lets say they only make them for 2 weeks - 184% - what will the return on them be? ...

hey Kano, here is very strong base of blind KNC fans, really recommend you to stop this kind of discussion.)

Xialla, really man?! everyone that's here is vested already, There's no going back... Machines are on the way, you bought it. you own it... WTF do you expect people to do? slit their wrists and just throw the box in the trash? You talk like you know wtf the future holds... lay off man, everyone knows what's at stake, learn to savor life's little victories.
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