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October 02, 2013, 08:43:28 AM
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At least you guys won't have to wait a year or more for your miners..................mumble mumble mumble BFL mumble mumble mumble mumble  Cheesy

A few days or even a week or so aint bad  Wink


how I feel I was treated by BFL (age appropriate for Josh over there)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNremK0cBEg

ah the shoutbox argument with Josh on how KNC was a scam and would not get miner's out till next year

heh....thanks KNC with 600gh ordered and the additional 264gh potentially of NO COST improvement on such

I think I can more easily move on from my 125gh of vaporware BFL product......boy why would anyone buy a BFL
monarch card for $4694.00 600gh with shipping in FEB 2014 when you could get a 550-575gh Jupiter for $4995.00 with
another (I assume) 2 weeks to ship FIFO after Nov 15th if you order NOW....BFL is so beyond screwed....


anyway

my 2c worth

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October 02, 2013, 08:51:51 AM
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......boy why would anyone buy a BFL
monarch card for $4694.00 600gh with shipping in FEB 2014 when you could get a 550-575gh Jupiter for $4995.00 with
another (I assume) 2 weeks to ship FIFO after Nov 15th if you order NOW....BFL is so beyond screwed....



Because of marketing !

You daily see TV adds of overpriced products ! Peoples are naive in this area, thats why marketing works so well
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October 02, 2013, 09:05:29 AM
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......boy why would anyone buy a BFL
monarch card for $4694.00 600gh with shipping in FEB 2014 when you could get a 550-575gh Jupiter for $4995.00 with
another (I assume) 2 weeks to ship FIFO after Nov 15th if you order NOW....BFL is so beyond screwed....



Because of marketing !

You daily see TV adds of overpriced products ! Peoples are naive in this area, thats why marketing works so well


yeah sheesh...always go with the asic miner company with the "line drawings" vs the one with pretty videos and pictures

*gee...i'm happy I bought from KNC after BFL disaster...but "what was I THINKING in hindsight...musta stumbled to the KNC www site in shock or something...
hey BFL did not work ..lets try the site in SWEDEN with no info/demos/pics and line drawings of the miners...yeah that will work*

I musta been in shock or something...sometimes it works to be dumb and lucky!

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October 02, 2013, 09:13:03 AM
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......boy why would anyone buy a BFL
monarch card for $4694.00 600gh with shipping in FEB 2014 when you could get a 550-575gh Jupiter for $4995.00 with
another (I assume) 2 weeks to ship FIFO after Nov 15th if you order NOW....BFL is so beyond screwed....



Because of marketing !

You daily see TV adds of overpriced products ! Peoples are naive in this area, thats why marketing works so well

Giving freebies to bloggers and grabbing any opp for an interview looks good too. BFL look awesome and sound awesome until you get to know the reality, sadly that took too long for a lot of people, but they will require a whole new bunch of suckers now it's clear their bragging is a load of bollocks and other people can do so much better.

I still think Josh should be sent a cake with his words about KnC not being able to do September iced on the top so he can eat his words.
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October 02, 2013, 09:14:57 AM
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funny how one little computer glitch can rip away 3 months of planning with a simple address mistake. I'm still VERY upset. Not just a cancelled flight here with the miners sent here...  now its more cost effective to keep them here versus waiting for them & flying over. I'm totally bummed about the address NOT changing where the miners shipped to..... Too late now since they said "Everything locked in" yadda yadda


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October 02, 2013, 09:18:43 AM
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I don't see anything being done as far as in mining...

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October 02, 2013, 09:20:13 AM
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funny how one little computer glitch can rip away 3 months of planning with a simple address mistake. I'm still VERY upset. Not just a cancelled flight here with the miners sent here...  now its more cost effective to keep them here versus waiting for them & flying over. I'm totally bummed about the address NOT changing where the miners shipped to..... Too late now since they said "Everything locked in" yadda yadda

What are you talking about!. What happened?

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October 02, 2013, 09:22:12 AM
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Any opinions on whether it is OK to place the miner on the side (standing up like a desktop PC) instead of lying down flat?

Would this put the fans under extra stress? Or maybe other bad things could happen?

I dont see the problem, assuming the heatsink/fan is mounted properly. That heatpipes would be less effective is a non issue IMO. Just look at your graphics card, the cooler is upside down.
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October 02, 2013, 09:22:19 AM
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I have Cygwin installed on Windows, so I can do all the usual Unix stuff, including ssh.
omg plz tell more...   Cygwin?

I'm sure these's no advantage installing Cygwin on windows machine unless your a developer, and I think it's much easier/reliable with linux or OSX operating system for developing.

Nemo, what are your intentions. Do you want remotely access your miner.?
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October 02, 2013, 09:27:50 AM
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funny how one little computer glitch can rip away 3 months of planning with a simple address mistake. I'm still VERY upset. Not just a cancelled flight here with the miners sent here...  now its more cost effective to keep them here versus waiting for them & flying over. I'm totally bummed about the address NOT changing where the miners shipped to..... Too late now since they said "Everything locked in" yadda yadda

What are you talking about!. What happened?
Well, I had changed the address the miners shipped to about three weeks ago. I was shipping them to a storage unit where I set up dsl in 2.5 cent electric territory. Now, after checking the "Status" on the KNC account page, the address for the miners has reverted back to my home address!!!!!!


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I have Cygwin installed on Windows, so I can do all the usual Unix stuff, including ssh.
omg plz tell more...   Cygwin?

There is not much to tell. It just works, you get complete UNIX command-line & X-Window environments, with all of your favourite programs: http://www.cygwin.com/

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got it nemo... looking at it now... thx


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October 02, 2013, 09:30:44 AM
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funny how one little computer glitch can rip away 3 months of planning with a simple address mistake. I'm still VERY upset. Not just a cancelled flight here with the miners sent here...  now its more cost effective to keep them here versus waiting for them & flying over. I'm totally bummed about the address NOT changing where the miners shipped to..... Too late now since they said "Everything locked in" yadda yadda


give them a call that you will be there..perhaps it is not that big a deal for them to change it on the fly once they know you actually are gonna be in country

just my 2c worth

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October 02, 2013, 09:33:16 AM
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funny how one little computer glitch can rip away 3 months of planning with a simple address mistake. I'm still VERY upset. Not just a cancelled flight here with the miners sent here...  now its more cost effective to keep them here versus waiting for them & flying over. I'm totally bummed about the address NOT changing where the miners shipped to..... Too late now since they said "Everything locked in" yadda yadda


give them a call that you will be there..perhaps it is not that big a deal for them to change it on the fly once they know you actually are gonna be in country

just my 2c worth

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funny how one little computer glitch can rip away 3 months of planning with a simple address mistake. I'm still VERY upset. Not just a cancelled flight here with the miners sent here...  now its more cost effective to keep them here versus waiting for them & flying over. I'm totally bummed about the address NOT changing where the miners shipped to..... Too late now since they said "Everything locked in" yadda yadda


give them a call that you will be there..perhaps it is not that big a deal for them to change it on the fly once they know you actually are gonna be in country

just my 2c worth

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sure .... the flight left 7 hours ago


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October 02, 2013, 09:36:58 AM
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I don't see anything being done as far as in mining...


yeah....but this is how I really really feel about my KNC miner coming and the potential 264gh hash increase over my expected 600gh
(ACTUALLY when I ordered I think I expected 300gh)...anyway....

my feelings ie....Darth Vader in Disneyland (hey who'da thunk that either)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSLt8gokHMA


(and yes...I do strut around like that now and feel all powerful and smug.......)

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October 02, 2013, 09:47:05 AM
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Any opinions on whether it is OK to place the miner on the side (standing up like a desktop PC) instead of lying down flat?

Would this put the fans under extra stress? Or maybe other bad things could happen?

I dont see the problem, assuming the heatsink/fan is mounted properly. That heatpipes would be less effective is a non issue IMO. Just look at your graphics card, the cooler is upside down.
Thanks for your inputs. That is exactly what I was thinking however this is just an assumption. Does somebody in here have experience with the heat sinks/coolers KNC are using?
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October 02, 2013, 09:49:37 AM
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I think I share some first ear information I just received from a phone call with KnC:

The ordering of the hosting option will not have an influence of the timing of installation.
They never (intended to) promise(d) that all hosted devices will be up running before any
boxes get shipped.
If you are at your place in the queue (and it looks this is the payment queue), your box will
either be sent to the hosting facility (which will take some hours ?) or send out via UPS.

There will be no ssh or other direct access to any hosted miners. That's for security reasons
and I totally agree on this.
There will be a webinterface (and it looks like they are not speaking about what you see
on your current order page). This webinterface also just gets finalized (omg, that's not professional!)
and they can't promise that a backup mining pool will be in the first revision of this software.  Huh  Embarrassed

Starting the production lines did not go as smoothly as they did expect.
But the production is running.

I congratulated them for nearly meeting the promised timeframe and it looks like they are
very proud and happy they did!

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October 02, 2013, 09:52:28 AM
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I think I share some first ear information I just received from a phone call with KnC:

The ordering of the hosting option will not have an influence of the timing of installation.
They never (intended to) promise(d) that all hosted devices will be up running before any
boxes get shipped.
If you are at your place in the queue (and it looks this is the payment queue), your box will
either be sent to the hosting facility (which will take some hours ?) or send out via UPS.

There will be no ssh or other direct access to any hosted miners. That's for security reasons
and I totally agree on this.
There will be a webinterface (and it looks like they are not speaking about what you see
on your current order page). This webinterface also just gets finalized (omg, that's not professional!)
and they can't promise that a backup mining pool will be in the first revision of this software.  Huh  Embarrassed

Starting the production lines did not go as smoothly as they did expect.
But the production is running.

I congratulated them for nearly meeting the promised timeframe and it looks like they are
very proud and happy they did!

thanks for sharing.

any more accurate info about delivery timeframe?

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October 02, 2013, 09:57:01 AM
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Any opinions on whether it is OK to place the miner on the side (standing up like a desktop PC) instead of lying down flat?

Would this put the fans under extra stress? Or maybe other bad things could happen?

I dont see the problem, assuming the heatsink/fan is mounted properly. That heatpipes would be less effective is a non issue IMO. Just look at your graphics card, the cooler is upside down.
Thanks for your inputs. That is exactly what I was thinking however this is just an assumption. Does somebody in here have experience with the heat sinks/coolers KNC are using?

I think someone posted on this thread that the sheer weight of the heatsink coolers sideways would put stress sideways on the boards also something about the case fan setup so i'd likely not do it ..not that I know anything on this


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October 02, 2013, 09:58:24 AM
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Thanks for your inputs. That is exactly what I was thinking however this is just an assumption. Does somebody in here have experience with the heat sinks/coolers KNC are using?

Its an artic freezer A30:
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/cpu/473/freezer-a30.html

Its fair to assume that 99% of users with experience with that cooler have it mounted horizontally, like you intend to do..  Cant remember the last time I saw an enthusiast grade desktop  with the motherboard horizontally.

edit: the mounting would be the real issue as pointed out in the post above. I havent seen a close up of how the PCB and cooler are mounted, so I wont comment on that. Cooling wise its not going to be a problem, your only worry be structural.
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