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October 02, 2013, 09:47:05 AM
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Any opinions on whether it is OK to place the miner on the side (standing up like a desktop PC) instead of lying down flat?

Would this put the fans under extra stress? Or maybe other bad things could happen?

I dont see the problem, assuming the heatsink/fan is mounted properly. That heatpipes would be less effective is a non issue IMO. Just look at your graphics card, the cooler is upside down.
Thanks for your inputs. That is exactly what I was thinking however this is just an assumption. Does somebody in here have experience with the heat sinks/coolers KNC are using?
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October 02, 2013, 09:49:37 AM
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I think I share some first ear information I just received from a phone call with KnC:

The ordering of the hosting option will not have an influence of the timing of installation.
They never (intended to) promise(d) that all hosted devices will be up running before any
boxes get shipped.
If you are at your place in the queue (and it looks this is the payment queue), your box will
either be sent to the hosting facility (which will take some hours ?) or send out via UPS.

There will be no ssh or other direct access to any hosted miners. That's for security reasons
and I totally agree on this.
There will be a webinterface (and it looks like they are not speaking about what you see
on your current order page). This webinterface also just gets finalized (omg, that's not professional!)
and they can't promise that a backup mining pool will be in the first revision of this software.  Huh  Embarrassed

Starting the production lines did not go as smoothly as they did expect.
But the production is running.

I congratulated them for nearly meeting the promised timeframe and it looks like they are
very proud and happy they did!

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October 02, 2013, 09:52:28 AM
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I think I share some first ear information I just received from a phone call with KnC:

The ordering of the hosting option will not have an influence of the timing of installation.
They never (intended to) promise(d) that all hosted devices will be up running before any
boxes get shipped.
If you are at your place in the queue (and it looks this is the payment queue), your box will
either be sent to the hosting facility (which will take some hours ?) or send out via UPS.

There will be no ssh or other direct access to any hosted miners. That's for security reasons
and I totally agree on this.
There will be a webinterface (and it looks like they are not speaking about what you see
on your current order page). This webinterface also just gets finalized (omg, that's not professional!)
and they can't promise that a backup mining pool will be in the first revision of this software.  Huh  Embarrassed

Starting the production lines did not go as smoothly as they did expect.
But the production is running.

I congratulated them for nearly meeting the promised timeframe and it looks like they are
very proud and happy they did!

thanks for sharing.

any more accurate info about delivery timeframe?

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October 02, 2013, 09:57:01 AM
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Any opinions on whether it is OK to place the miner on the side (standing up like a desktop PC) instead of lying down flat?

Would this put the fans under extra stress? Or maybe other bad things could happen?

I dont see the problem, assuming the heatsink/fan is mounted properly. That heatpipes would be less effective is a non issue IMO. Just look at your graphics card, the cooler is upside down.
Thanks for your inputs. That is exactly what I was thinking however this is just an assumption. Does somebody in here have experience with the heat sinks/coolers KNC are using?

I think someone posted on this thread that the sheer weight of the heatsink coolers sideways would put stress sideways on the boards also something about the case fan setup so i'd likely not do it ..not that I know anything on this


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October 02, 2013, 09:58:24 AM
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Thanks for your inputs. That is exactly what I was thinking however this is just an assumption. Does somebody in here have experience with the heat sinks/coolers KNC are using?

Its an artic freezer A30:
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/cpu/473/freezer-a30.html

Its fair to assume that 99% of users with experience with that cooler have it mounted horizontally, like you intend to do..  Cant remember the last time I saw an enthusiast grade desktop  with the motherboard horizontally.

edit: the mounting would be the real issue as pointed out in the post above. I havent seen a close up of how the PCB and cooler are mounted, so I wont comment on that. Cooling wise its not going to be a problem, your only worry be structural.
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October 02, 2013, 10:01:07 AM
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I think I share some first ear information I just received from a phone call with KnC:

The ordering of the hosting option will not have an influence of the timing of installation.
They never (intended to) promise(d) that all hosted devices will be up running before any
boxes get shipped.
If you are at your place in the queue (and it looks this is the payment queue), your box will
either be sent to the hosting facility (which will take some hours ?) or send out via UPS.

There will be no ssh or other direct access to any hosted miners. That's for security reasons
and I totally agree on this.
There will be a webinterface (and it looks like they are not speaking about what you see
on your current order page). This webinterface also just gets finalized (omg, that's not professional!)
and they can't promise that a backup mining pool will be in the first revision of this software.  Huh  Embarrassed

Starting the production lines did not go as smoothly as they did expect.
But the production is running.

I congratulated them for nearly meeting the promised timeframe and it looks like they are
very proud and happy they did!

Wouldn't this be to centralize the hashing power with KNC to some degree?
I mean if they control the only interface for configuring my miner the only option I have left if evil forces take over KNC  is to switch off my miner... I would have no possibility to reconfigure then?
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October 02, 2013, 10:08:45 AM
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has everyone forgot that its running on an open source software and hardware. Give it time someone will crack it.

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October 02, 2013, 10:10:55 AM
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Just received this email response when I asked about my day 1 order (currently In progress) with local pickup:

Hi,
 
We will contact you per email as soon as your order is ready with the details for pickup.
 
Should you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact us.
 
Thanks
Emilia
 
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So I guess we will have to relax and keep an eye on our email inbox.
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October 02, 2013, 10:13:03 AM
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So I guess we will have to relax and keep an eye on our email inbox.

How do you relax if your eye is kept on your email inbox the whole day?
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October 02, 2013, 10:14:03 AM
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We will contact you per email as soon as your order is ready with the details for pickup.

Starting the production lines did not go as smoothly as they did expect.

meeeh, I don't think that they will start shipping today.(
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October 02, 2013, 10:18:00 AM
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We will contact you per email as soon as your order is ready with the details for pickup.

Starting the production lines did not go as smoothly as they did expect.

meeeh, I don't think that they will start shipping todat.(

It doesn't look like they will ship this week at all. AFAIK they are still working on debugging (+25% hardware error, right?), webinterface, etc. - as soon as they have gone through these processes they should implement everything on hundreds (if not thousands) of machines, pack them up, etc. People in here daydream and think that you can take the very first version of a bleeding edge piece of hardware directly from the production line, pack it up and send it up to thousands of customers in just one day, without any kind of testing/debugging. Wishful thinking and day dreaming all over this forum...


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October 02, 2013, 10:21:29 AM
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Yo! Looks like orders are actually going out today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDdcZtdBL2M

I would also like to be leaving here today! Wink

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October 02, 2013, 10:23:06 AM
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...they should implement everything on hundreds (if not thousands) of machines...
I am sure every customer would be more than ok to start with doing a software update of the miner right after receiving it. So there is no need to wait with shipping because of that.

I am selling in stock OneStringMiner boards, based on the Bitfury chips. Have a look here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=495536.0
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October 02, 2013, 10:26:42 AM
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So I guess we will have to relax and keep an eye on our email inbox.

How do you relax if your eye is kept on your email inbox the whole day?

I want his life.....the excitement the drama..beats going to my job

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October 02, 2013, 10:26:43 AM
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Heh I knew it had to do something with the web interface/pool. As there were zero demo of it.

Kinda sucky. They've got the hardware but now they need to work on the software side (web interface, knc pool page, cg miner driver, knc pool software etc).

Hopefully they don't take too long..
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October 02, 2013, 10:26:55 AM
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Yo! Looks like orders are actually going out today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDdcZtdBL2M

I would also like to be leaving here today! Wink

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I will say that the guy in that video packaging that miner hasnt packaged a lot yet. Im sure he will get better at it in the coming week Smiley
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October 02, 2013, 10:27:29 AM
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and they can't promise that a backup mining pool will be in the first revision of this software.  Huh  Embarrassed
I wanted to SSH so I could add a couple of failover pools. This was the only thing I wanted to do the day I get my miner.

THIS IS NUMBER 1 SOFTWARE PRIORITY TO SORT KNC.

I don't want my miner sitting idle because one pool is under ddos  Angry

I called someone an amateur the other day for not having a failover pool and KNC are going to make us all amateurs if we can't set up multiple failover pools  Angry

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October 02, 2013, 10:28:51 AM
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...they should implement everything on hundreds (if not thousands) of machines...
I am sure every customer would be more than ok to start with doing a software update of the miner right after receiving it. So there is no need to wait with shipping because of that.
Mining software should be already up to date as it is in the beaglebone...
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October 02, 2013, 10:28:57 AM
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2 piece of foam (on the side of the rig)?

Hopefully that's enough to take the damage/UPS abuse Roll Eyes

Wonder if there's any foam or air bags inside heh
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October 02, 2013, 10:29:36 AM
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We will contact you per email as soon as your order is ready with the details for pickup.

Starting the production lines did not go as smoothly as they did expect.

meeeh, I don't think that they will start shipping todat.(
People in here daydream and think that you can take the very first version of a bleeding edge piece of hardware directly from the production line, pack it up and send it up to thousands of customers in just one day, without any kind of testing/debugging. Wishful thinking and day dreaming all over this forum...

meeh, don't scare me, this is my log:

2/10 - no info about shipping, no tracking number (taking another week of homeoffice to receive miner by UPS at home)
1/10 - my order is "in progress"status
30/9 - Jupiter launch: We start shipping today (last statement in video)
27/9 - mail from KNC: "We can confirm that your order is still expected to ship towards the end of September"
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