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October 01, 2013, 01:22:42 PM
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My very second post in this fantastic forum!  Smiley (First one was in the newbies' forum)
Thanks to most people for valuable inputs...

Anyone who knows how we will be able to adjust our miner settings?
Pools, worker names, passwords etc.

Does the Beagle bone board has a video connection or do we have to use SSH or a web interface?
And what about keyboard connection?

It would be great if someone who actually knows could answer. Wild guesses are not so helpful.

The reason for asking is because I am not a genuine computer wizard and am hoping for a relatively user friendly interface.

On the KNC forum I once asked if the miner will come with a user manual but no reply from KNC as of yet.
Though I am glad KNC used their time to work instead of wasting time on silly questions and FUD.

If my questions were already answered earlier I apologize for it escaping my attention. I have followed this thread for months now but I do not remember this question has been answered clearly.

you will ssh into web interface of beaglebone.
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October 01, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
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Thanks for sharing that.
I've said this phrase too often, but "Excuse my ignorance", shouldn't CGMiner display the actual mining rate without having to do calculations?
When I look at my erupters mining, it is displaying 333MHash/s each, plain as day. Why not here?

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It's up to the driver to be able to calculate it.
Some devices you can't actually count how many hashes it has done.
Others the calculations can be wrong or done badly.
Most have to estimate something in there - the better the estimate the more accurate the result.

The "nonce" calculation I've used in my post above (like is used in the Avalon and BitBurner drivers) is how you tell if the driver calculation is correct - but you need to do lots of hashes to consider it reliable.

Bottom line is that I put a lot of effort into the Icarus driver (ICA, AMU, BLT, LLT, CMR) to make it more reliable reporting the MH/s.
However, it itself is doing an estimate on a bit over 1/3 of the work it does also.

My 3 AMUs do 335MH/s ...

Working on the Klondike project, I recently changes the driver to use the "nonce" calculation and found that the original BKK code + the firmware together were not actually getting it right, they were getting it way UNDER what it was really doing for some configurations.
So I switched that driver over to the "nonce" calculation and suddenly everyone was happy to see that indeed it was hashing as it should be Smiley

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October 01, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
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you will ssh into web interface of beaglebone.
How will this be done?

I found a guide to this
http://learn.adafruit.com/ssh-to-beaglebone-black-over-usb/overview
however, it requires a USB.

KNC have said they are disabling the USB on the beaglebone in their build, so is there another way?

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October 01, 2013, 01:28:42 PM
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Great... Called them and asked about the delivery. Today day 1 orders will be shipped and tomorrow afternoon day 2. So I get my units on Friday, even though Germany should be the fastest delivery -.-

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October 01, 2013, 01:29:15 PM
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Great... Called them and asked about the delivery. Today day 1 orders will be shipped and tomorrow afternoon day 2. So I get my units on Friday, even though Germany should be the fastest delivery -.-

fantastic !

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October 01, 2013, 01:29:35 PM
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So anywhere up to 300 a day you think?

At 469GH/s ( less than a BFL Minirig Smiley ) that's 140TH a day

Current difficulty is 148,819,199.80509263 = 1065.289327 TH/s

So if they ONLY spend a week making them, difficulty will go up ... 92%

So the next 2 difficulty changes should together be over 184% ...

Lets see who doesn't stop mining in 4 weeks Cheesy

So lets say they only make them for 2 weeks - 184% - what will the return on them be? ...

Careful kano..  You are making way too much damn sense..   Something that is frowned upon in this thread

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October 01, 2013, 01:29:50 PM
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Also note:
HW: 28517 is an awesome ... 28517 / (28517 + 144587 + 260) = 28517/173364 = 16.46% ...

Edit: lastly that WU: number there at the top of 8001.3 means 8001.3 * 2^32 / 60  = 572,755,363,758
So they are losing >100GH/s of work vs the replies they are getting back from the device ...

The difficulty is 127, so the error rate is fine. Unless you or the team fixed that in the cgminer, in the older miners 3.2.x I had to divide the errors by the difficulty.


No.
The error rate is 16.46% using the numbers there on the screen

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October 01, 2013, 01:30:16 PM
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Thanks for sharing that.
I've said this phrase too often, but "Excuse my ignorance", shouldn't CGMiner display the actual mining rate without having to do calculations?
When I look at my erupters mining, it is displaying 333MHash/s each, plain as day. Why not here?

Thanks Kano,
IAS
It's up to the driver to be able to calculate it.
Some devices you can't actually count how many hashes it has done.
Others the calculations can be wrong or done badly.
Most have to estimate something in there - the better the estimate the more accurate the result.

The "nonce" calculation I've used in my post above (like is used in the Avalon and BitBurner drivers) is how you tell if the driver calculation is correct - but you need to do lots of hashes to consider it reliable.

Bottom line is that I put a lot of effort into the Icarus driver (ICA, AMU, BLT, LLT, CMR) to make it more reliable reporting the MH/s.
However, it itself is doing an estimate on a bit over 1/3 of the work it does also.

My 3 AMUs do 335MH/s ...

Working on the Klondike project, I recently changes the driver to use the "nonce" calculation and found that the original BKK code + the firmware together were not actually getting it right, they were getting it way UNDER what it was really doing for some configurations.
So I switched that driver over to the "nonce" calculation and suddenly everyone was happy to see that indeed it was hashing as it should be Smiley
Been meaning to ask for ages, which of the ASIC chips do you find the best/easiest to develop your code for?
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October 01, 2013, 01:30:37 PM
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So anywhere up to 300 a day you think?

At 469GH/s ( less than a BFL Minirig Smiley ) that's 140TH a day

Current difficulty is 148,819,199.80509263 = 1065.289327 TH/s

So if they ONLY spend a week making them, difficulty will go up ... 92%

So the next 2 difficulty changes should together be over 184% ...

Lets see who doesn't stop mining in 4 weeks Cheesy

So lets say they only make them for 2 weeks - 184% - what will the return on them be? ...

They won't all be Jupiters. Not that it is going to make a huge difference.

I'm wondering who will have orders elsewhere, see this leap occur and think about cancelling ..or not bothering in the 1st place? If this had been someone else releasing mad hashpower before KnC I'd bet refunds would have been requested in droves if they were available. Lots of people bottled out even before this recent series of events because they couldn't see breakeven. Got to be the same or worse for any pre-orders elsewhere now hasn't it?
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October 01, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
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Great... Called them and asked about the delivery. Today day 1 orders will be shipped and tomorrow afternoon day 2. So I get my units on Friday, even though Germany should be the fastest delivery -.-

fantastic !

Yes, for all non German players in the race it is. If I had known that I would have taken the next flight to Sweden...

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October 01, 2013, 01:34:38 PM
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Great... Called them and asked about the delivery. Today day 1 orders will be shipped and tomorrow afternoon day 2. So I get my units on Friday, even though Germany should be the fastest delivery -.-

wow, if they will ship day 1 today, I will receive my miner tomorrow.) cool
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October 01, 2013, 01:37:54 PM
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Are you now officialy work for Knc miners? They have presented you an working unit what you wanted to see first before you accept the job offer.
Maybe premature, but if you are working for them now (you already are, kind of), I believe congrats are in order  
Great work my man!
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October 01, 2013, 01:43:19 PM
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The beaglebone Angstrom Linux runs off a microsd card right? Would it be possible to pull that from the miner, plug it into some other device and make changes to settings if there is no USB port on the beaglebone? Anyone?

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October 01, 2013, 01:46:23 PM
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The beaglebone Angstrom Linux runs off a microsd card right? Would it be possible to pull that from the miner, plug it into some other device and make changes to settings if there is no USB port on the beaglebone? Anyone?

sorry guys

but as far as I know there should be an ethernet port, no?

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October 01, 2013, 01:48:39 PM
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Are you now officialy work for Knc miners? They have presented you an working unit what you wanted to see first before you accept the job offer.
Maybe premature, but if you are working for them now (you already are, kind of), I believe congrats are in order  
Great work my man!

Yes, they want me to stick around. Actually let me rephrase that; i've been forced to stick around in yesterday's clothing as they won't leave the factory until production is ramped up, and my clothing is in my hotel room, in Stockholm, that apparently wasn't needed.

They've asked my first official engagement to be to deliver a Jupiter to Becky and Austin, of Life on Bitcoin at the Atlanta Bitcoin Conference this coming weekend. Which is cool as it was my suggestion they get involved when I emailed them the Kickstarter fundraiser for the film a week after the original openday. However, I'm only happy to agree if i'm permitted access to a change of clothing from now, until then. Wink

Unofficially, i'm currently assembling your kit, so cheers whoever gave them the Ikea chair assembly image.






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October 01, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
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Awesome. I guess you'll be at the Atlanta Bitcoin conference then Roll Eyes
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October 01, 2013, 01:52:45 PM
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Unofficially, i'm currently assembling your kit, so cheers whoever gave them the Ikea chair assembly image.

You're welcome  Grin

I've been asked if I'm free this weekend, but Mon is the 30th.
Time for your job interview. Bring a soldering iron, might be like this  Wink



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October 01, 2013, 01:53:21 PM
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@Bitcoinorama

Are you now officialy work for Knc miners? They have presented you an working unit what you wanted to see first before you accept the job offer.
Maybe premature, but if you are working for them now (you already are, kind of), I believe congrats are in order  
Great work my man!

Yes, they want me to stick around. Actually let me rephrase that; i've been forced to stick around in yesterday's clothing as they won't leave the factory until production is ramped up, and my clothing is in my hotel room, in Stockholm, that apparently wasn't needed.

They've asked my first official engagement to be to deliver a Jupiter to Becky and Austin, of Life on Bitcoin at the Atlanta Bitcoin Conference this coming weekend. Which is cool as it was my suggestion they get involved when I emailed them the Kickstarter fundraiser for the film a week after the original openday. However, I'm only happy to agree if i'm permitted access to a change of clothing from now, until then. Wink

Unofficially, i'm currently assembling your kit, so cheers whoever gave them the Ikea chair assembly image.

Any guesstimates on how may kits that been completed? Waiting for a bat signal to light up so I can swing by and pick up the orders.
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October 01, 2013, 01:53:26 PM
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Unofficially, i'm currently assembling your kit, so cheers whoever gave them the Ikea chair assembly image.


back to work then and stop wasting time posting on stupid forum Tongue

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October 01, 2013, 01:53:43 PM
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Been meaning to ask for ages, which of the ASIC chips do you find the best/easiest to develop your code for?
It's not really the chip that matters, as much as it is the firmware to hardware combination.

Part of the reason why I wrote this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=294499.0

A good example of this is the BitFury chip.
About 25% of the chip doesn't work, it returns lots of bad nonces that you need to fix, and in the BitFury boards you have to do GPIO to it to mine on it with the RPi - horrific.

Yet the Burnin BitFury board will have a neat and tidy Firmware similar to the BTB Avalon chip boards he's already made and the only trick left will of course be handling the bad nonces it returns ... who knows maybe he'll solve that in the firmware also? (No idea - I expect he wont but it would be nice)
The firmware isn't 'awesome' but it works Smiley

Even better, the Klondike firmware is probably the best simple firmware so far, you send it commands as you like, and asynchronously it replies as it can answer each request. But the chips ... not really relevant.

The BFL firmware is way more complex, but you can ignore most of it, and then it becomes all very simple to use, and with the input and output queues in the firmware, you can easily keep the high hash rate chips from ever going idle.

What's left? Asicminer.
The AMU USB is a complete PITA coz they made it emulate an old Icarus, provide no temperature information and used an annoying USB chip in it.
The basic Icarus protocol is simply:
1) Send 64 bytes
2) Wait for 4 bytes
and that's it. Simple but completely lacking in any extra functionality, with no input queue so USB latency is "absolutely" high.
However, Since it is ridiculously slow, it doesn't matter that the USB latency per work item is large, since each work item takes over 10 seconds to process, so it is "relatively" low.

No one has got it perfect yet, and that's why that thread I created exists.
I have passed that information on to a few of the manufacturers when they have asked for my input over the past year, but hopefully more of them will actually take notice of most of it ...

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