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September 30, 2013, 07:34:17 PM
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KNC said: "We have begun testing and initial results are good, we will have more updates throughout the day."

I really doubt this statement was addressed to customers. The only exact info we got was about the power consumption, from an outsider, therefore still not official. Yet, one might argue the day is not over yet (Sweden time)...
Yes, I do understand they are excited, tired and so on, but there is a pretty large number of us, customers, waiting on some clear specs and details about production, delivery schedule and so on. Im personally interested in calculating my losses and I need some data to start with Smiley

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September 30, 2013, 07:38:03 PM
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You get 500+ instead of 400 for a Jupiter. That rocks...

ands 500+ will return my 85BTC investment a generate some profit? really?

KNC sell you miners. Thats it.

They are not responsible for your profit or losses due to network hashrate!



Erm, yes they are, unless you aren't going to mine with the KnC rigs they are pumping out (not as they originally said, a small manageable customer base they could support well). When the hashrate rises like a wall this month..that won't be KnC? lmao.
Probably not what he meant. More along the lines of that KNC aren't responsible for our personal decisions and only deliver the product. Early customers pre-ordered and paid for what we thought would be 350 & 175GH/s machines delivered in september so it's our responsibility to decide if we are willing to take that risk or not.
But yes KNC are the ones making the miners which will directly affect the network.
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September 30, 2013, 07:39:55 PM
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Most people are content to see the stacks of photo's that were posted today.

Videos of assembly, pictures of boards and chips. And of course the revelation by bitcoinorama that he wears women's high heeled shoes and hasn't mastered how to walk in them yet.

There are obviously still problems with the chips, boards and shoes, or else KNC would have shipped.

I think everyone assumes they will iron out the problems and ship in the next couple of days.

I think most people are content to live with shipping one or two days late.

In the long run it means nothing - getting a working miner soon is all most sane people here are interested in.

Everyone log off and get an early night.

I'd say there will be no more news today, just the straight-jacketed forum loons howling into the night...

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September 30, 2013, 07:43:57 PM
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Most people are content to see the stacks of photo's that were posted today.

Videos of assembly, pictures of boards and chips. And of course the revelation by bitcoinorama that he wears women's high heeled shoes and hasn't mastered how to walk in them yet.

There are obviously still problems with the chips, boards and shoes, or else KNC would have shipped.

I think everyone assumes they will iron out the problems and ship in the next couple of days.

I think most people are content to live with shipping one or two days late.

In the long run it means nothing - getting a working miner soon is all most sane people here are interested in.

Everyone log off and get an early night.

I'd say there will be no more news today, just the straight-jacketed forum loons howling into the night...
I just woke up & its hardly 10am... good luck... hahaha


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September 30, 2013, 07:44:17 PM
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The russians...

I'm not from Russia. I born in Basel (CH) and then I moved to Prague (CZ)

please don't try to start here this racism bullshit.

What can they say? Currently only Chinese and Russian had good records on delivering on time and achieved reasonable ROI for their customers. i.e. Avalon B#1 and Bitfury.

None of the US or Western Euro company have achieved this at this moment.
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September 30, 2013, 07:45:58 PM
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Most people are content to see the stacks of photo's that were posted today.

Videos of assembly, pictures of boards and chips. And of course the revelation by bitcoinorama that he wears women's high heeled shoes and hasn't mastered how to walk in them yet.

There are obviously still problems with the chips, boards and shoes, or else KNC would have shipped.

I think everyone assumes they will iron out the problems and ship in the next couple of days.

I think most people are content to live with shipping one or two days late.

In the long run it means nothing - getting a working miner soon is all most sane people here are interested in.

Everyone log off and get an early night.

I'd say there will be no more news today, just the straight-jacketed forum loons howling into the night...

I'd take your advice, there, except it's just a bit after 1pm where I'm at, and I'm enjoying the show Smiley

Also, I thnk the 100 percent yield comment was on the chips, not the hashrate.

A bit of speculation on my part, but I suspect that HUGE chip is due to multiple redundancy, which would gurarantee a very high yield on spec. It could also mean that a fair percentage of the chips are capable of much higher rates, should you be able to unlock all of the hashing engines.

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September 30, 2013, 07:46:15 PM
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I was joking AussieHash & sickpig.

Is no one else going to comment on the fact the case is flat-pack?  Grin


maybe miners hosted into KnC facility will have custom case, no ?  

If you look at the datacentre photos, looks like the boards are going directly on the shelves
http://forum.kncminer.com/filedata/fetch?photoid=3023

Good pick

The miner case appears to have 4 sets of 6-point-mounts aligned front to back plus room for the beaglebone
The shelves appear to have 6 sets of 6-point-mounts, all aligned obliquely(although the PSU needs to sit somewhere)
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September 30, 2013, 07:48:03 PM
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You get 500+ instead of 400 for a Jupiter. That rocks...

ands 500+ will return my 85BTC investment a generate some profit? really?

KNC sell you miners. Thats it.

They are not responsible for your profit or losses due to network hashrate!



Erm, yes they are, unless you aren't going to mine with the KnC rigs they are pumping out (not as they originally said, a small manageable customer base they could support well). When the hashrate rises like a wall this month..that won't be KnC? lmao.
They also made statements about the hashrate increase and how they were going to try and protect us from it if they could so we could see a return.
They even said they would have a little break and not produce anything for months in the unlikely event that other people didn't ship rigs.

Buying rigs is a mug's game at the moment, selling them is awesome...lovely profits, no need to even fund it yourself and not your fault if they don't make the punters any profit or even break even. OR if they are late, but not as late as BFL you're a hero. Mad business.

Again: KNC sell you miners. Thats it.

They are not responsible for your profit or losses due to network hashrate!

And yes obv KNCs miners have an effect on the network. But seriously if you werent able to add that effect into your considerations than you better stay out of this whole business as you seem to lack basic understandings.

So maybe you feel like telling me exactly how much hashing power KnC are selling in China? Or how you could even start to find that out?
KnC sell miners, at a huge profit. Enough to drop 2k easily from the price as they did. You don't think that would have made the difference between breaking even or a loss for people waiting for rigs now? Man there's some masochists about in here. Whip me again..harder. lmao

They have done well, only just missed Sept by the looks of it. That doesn't do customers an ounce of good however. It won't do KnC any good long term either...only a complete numpty will be back to donate some more hard earned money after losing this round. "Oh look I lost a grand sitting worrying while waiting for a rig that won't break even...that was fun Smiley. " Really? lol
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September 30, 2013, 07:48:06 PM
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The russians...

I'm not from Russia. I born in Basel (CH) and then I moved to Prague (CZ)

please don't try to start here this racism bullshit.

What can they say? Currently only Chinese and Russian had good records on delivering on time and achieved reasonable ROI for their customers. i.e. Avalon B#1 and Bitfury.

None of the US or Western Euro company have achieved this at this moment.


Bitfury shipped from Finland.........

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September 30, 2013, 07:48:22 PM
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So, almost the first (within 1 hr 40 min)  
bitbet lost
no hash-rates posted
No hashing machine posted.
Alot of concerned looking faces in the pics.

Am I missing something?

check this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ittJ5PQe6IU
and this album: http://imgur.com/a/336Ah#0

both of them are taken by Orama from factory. and power consumption will be 1.4W/Gh

maybe I missed something from today, but this seems important/interesting to me.

Thanks for posting that. Nice video. I had no idea they had that kind of operation (but know nothing in this arena).

Just curious, is BFL more of a mom and pop shop with lots of people doing lots of manual work? Just wondering how they are a year behind...

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September 30, 2013, 07:56:00 PM
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Thanks for posting that. Nice video. I had no idea they had that kind of operation (but know nothing in this arena).

Just curious, is BFL more of a mom and pop shop with lots of people doing lots of manual work? Just wondering how they are a year behind...
Because BFL outsource board assembly to a similar automated SMF production line in Chicago. They only do R&D, Admin, and final machine assembly at there Kansas office. BFL would never think of doing a video of the high tech board production line to help promote there business.

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September 30, 2013, 08:01:49 PM
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So, almost the first (within 1 hr 40 min)  
bitbet lost
no hash-rates posted
No hashing machine posted.
Alot of concerned looking faces in the pics.

Am I missing something?

Set up a webcam once.  Later a glitch with one of my routers.  The webcam caught me troubleshooting.  For some reason I looked furious.  If someone else it'd scare me.  I KNOW I wasn't that angry, just perplexed.




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September 30, 2013, 08:02:39 PM
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The russians...

I'm not from Russia. I born in Basel (CH) and then I moved to Prague (CZ)

please don't try to start here this racism bullshit.

What can they say? Currently only Chinese and Russian had good records on delivering on time and achieved reasonable ROI for their customers. i.e. Avalon B#1 and Bitfury.

None of the US or Western Euro company have achieved this at this moment.

Indeed the first batch from Avalon was a success, but it kinda fell to shit from there on out. Applying the same standards to BFL, they would also have a "good record". Very early BFL customers are actually seeing quite a nice ROI. In no way am I implying BFL has a good record, in fact I hate the way they do business, but just adding my thoughts to your comparison Smiley

On another note: Way to go KNC! Things are looking good. Few days late - increased hashrate, it all evens out Smiley
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fuck you guys are making it NOT POSSIBLE to enjoy this from work with the boobs everywhere

rofl  Grin
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September 30, 2013, 08:04:02 PM
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Hi everybody,

We are Swedish miners that are producing our own ASIC miners to strengthen the market and avoid monopoly.
Our company kncminer is pleased to announce the opening of a brand new web shop dedicated to the online sale of Bitcoin hardware to the international community, www.kncminer.com.

A lot of scam sites are appearing every day and we are not one of them, therefore we will not take any orders and are only registering interest.

We will in the upcoming weeks opening our order book to allow the purchase of our first set of ASIC miners. They are in the early stages of development now and will be ready in the summer of 2013 (yes in just a few months)
Register an account now it’s completely free and if you subscribe to our newsletter we will alert you the moment we open the order books for entry and other information around the ASIC products.
If you have any questions we will be happy to answer them.

Happy mining


With the difficulty increasing at a much faster rate now, how long does it take you to build anyone of these units and deliver them?

Thanks.
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lol quoting the first post and looking for an answer..... Roll Eyes
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Is smoothrunnings like a term for explosive extremely liquefied diarrhea?

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September 30, 2013, 08:15:26 PM
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Is smoothrunnings like a term for explosive extremely liquefied diarrhea?

That would seem rather turbulent to me... Maybe just garden variety diarrhea?

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Is smoothrunnings like a term for explosive extremely liquefied diarrhea?

LoL... extremely funny!
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