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[windjc]

It's literally the first rule of life. Doesn't change that a hundred women is hard r-type behavior, that women lose the ability to pair-bond the more sexual partners they have

Men too - even more, perhaps.

This is speculation mostly from observation, but it seems like men are actually hurt by too little sex while women are from too much of it. Comes back to evolution, in tribal times the men who could get the most and the youngest women were on top of the social hierarchy. Women meanwhile wanted said top men, and not the other twenty losers in the tribe. Needs more research for anything definite tho.

and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.

I'd like it if we all declined some more.

We will.

Sounds like a Muslim radical. Or a Christian radical. Need more research for anything definite tho.

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[d_eddie]

and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.

I'd like it if we all declined some more.

We will.

In my useful lifetime, I mean.

[windjc]

and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.

I'd like it if we all declined some more.

We will.

In my useful lifetime, I mean.

Ah, you got plenty of time I imagine.

Btw, this Ibian guy. There was a reason I had him on ignore until today. Is it a common thing, for young boys to sit around on the interwebs talking about how civilization is declining by assuming that all humanity is driven by it most animal natures? Kind of a narrow view to be stuck in.

[Ibian]

and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.

I'd like it if we all declined some more.

We will.

In my useful lifetime, I mean.

Yes. Again, inaccurate projections as this is about the future, but the cultural cycle should theoretically culminate somewhere around 2015-2035.

[windjc]

and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.

I'd like it if we all declined some more.

We will.

In my useful lifetime, I mean.

Yes. Again, inaccurate projections as this is about the future, but the cultural cycle should theoretically culminate somewhere around 2015-2035.

Lol. And when this cultural cycle culminates what happens then? Want to make sure Im prepared, with my bomb shelter or whatever.

[d_eddie]

and that it is how people in a declining culture behave.

I'd like it if we all declined some more.

We will.

In my useful lifetime, I mean.

Ah, you got plenty of time I imagine.

I've got a long wishlist too.

[d_eddie]

Idle, bickering conversation ensues only because the corn is sleeping. DO NOT PROD NOW.

[windjc]

Ibian read this article and fell in love:

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/how-r-and-k-type-psychologies-affect-societies-and-what-this-means-for-our-political-dialog/

What a miserable place to exist. Its like the tens of thousands of people that go to a soccer match to watch someone else on the field performing.

When you are in the stands eating a hotdog, and not on the field actually living life, you have all the time in the world to pontificate on how humanity is not the way it should be. As if you finishing that hotdog will have any impact on the score on the field below.

[Toxic2040]

Most divorces don't end on friendly terms. Out of curiosity, what did you end up being forced to pay to her and how old were your kids when the divorce happened?

No pre-nup but I gave her the house we lived in at the time. Zero fault state so no alimony...but I payed substantial support for the kids. Worked out to about 50k for each kid..pretty cheap imo. This does not count the cars, clothes, college fund and endless trips to the mall typical of young girls. Kids were pre-teen at the time..just spent a great day with them actually..was real nice.

[windjc]

Most divorces don't end on friendly terms. Out of curiosity, what did you end up being forced to pay to her and how old were your kids when the divorce happened?

No pre-nup but I gave her the house we lived in at the time. Zero fault state so no alimony...but I payed substantial support for the kids. Worked out to about 50k for each kid..pretty cheap imo. This does not count the cars, clothes, college fund and endless trips to the mall typical of young girls. Kids were pre-teen at the time..just spent a great day with them actually..was real nice.

Happy father's day.

[jojo69]

I'd like it if we all declined some more.

take - me - to - the - sluts

[Torque]

Meh..I disagree completely. I have been divorced now for 10 years after 17 years of a mostly wonderful marriage, I have 3 beautiful children and a solid relationship with my ex that I would not trade for the world. Marriage and life are what you make of it. If you put a negative connotation on something it will most likely be that in reality. Just a thought.

Yeah, but you have to realize that your relationship with your ex is the exception and not the rule. Most men get royally screwed over by the ex-wives, both during the whole rotten, depressing marriage and then afterward.

Sounds like you didn't.

Also sounds like you had substantial disposable income to spend on your teenage daughters, and a willingness to do it. Very antithesis to what most men have post-divorce.

[Ibian]

Most divorces don't end on friendly terms. Out of curiosity, what did you end up being forced to pay to her and how old were your kids when the divorce happened?

No pre-nup but I gave her the house we lived in at the time. Zero fault state so no alimony...but I payed substantial support for the kids. Worked out to about 50k for each kid..pretty cheap imo. This does not count the cars, clothes, college fund and endless trips to the mall typical of young girls. Kids were pre-teen at the time..just spent a great day with them actually..was real nice.

So a house, cars and a small fortune in essentially cash. And what did she give you? What does she keep giving you, other than letting you stay out of jail? Honestly doesn't sound like a great deal to me. And my understanding is that this is a relatively good case by american standards?

[windjc]

Most divorces don't end on friendly terms. Out of curiosity, what did you end up being forced to pay to her and how old were your kids when the divorce happened?

No pre-nup but I gave her the house we lived in at the time. Zero fault state so no alimony...but I payed substantial support for the kids. Worked out to about 50k for each kid..pretty cheap imo. This does not count the cars, clothes, college fund and endless trips to the mall typical of young girls. Kids were pre-teen at the time..just spent a great day with them actually..was real nice.

So a house, cars and a small fortune in essentially cash. And what did she give you? What does she keep giving you, other than letting you stay out of jail? Honestly doesn't sound like a great deal to me. And my understanding is that this is a relatively good case by american standards?

It is cowardice to only ask questions of others and to share no information about yourself. How did you come to be such a coward?

[windjc]

Meh..I disagree completely. I have been divorced now for 10 years after 17 years of a mostly wonderful marriage, I have 3 beautiful children and a solid relationship with my ex that I would not trade for the world. Marriage and life are what you make of it. If you put a negative connotation on something it will most likely be that in reality. Just a thought.

Yeah, but you have to realize that your relationship with your ex is the exception and not the rule. Most men get royally screwed over by the ex-wives, both during the whole rotten, depressing marriage and then afterward.

Sounds like you didn't.

Also sounds like you had substantial disposable income to spend on your teenage daughters, and a willingness to do it. Very antithesis to what most men have post-divorce.

Who cares? If he is the exception to the rule he is not the exception to rule because of luck, but because of a series of choices he made throughout his life most likely. Even if your initial premise is true it doesn't mean anything to someone in his shoes. He doesn't need to realize his exception. Exceptional people have no need to realize their exceptional nature. They can of course, but they don't need unexceptional people preaching it to them.

[Torque]

Meh..I disagree completely. I have been divorced now for 10 years after 17 years of a mostly wonderful marriage, I have 3 beautiful children and a solid relationship with my ex that I would not trade for the world. Marriage and life are what you make of it. If you put a negative connotation on something it will most likely be that in reality. Just a thought.

Yeah, but you have to realize that your relationship with your ex is the exception and not the rule. Most men get royally screwed over by the ex-wives, both during the whole rotten, depressing marriage and then afterward.

Sounds like you didn't.

Also sounds like you had substantial disposable income to spend on your teenage daughters, and a willingness to do it. Very antithesis to what most men have post-divorce.

Who cares? If he is the exception to the rule he is not the exception to rule because of luck, but because of a series of choices he made throughout his life most likely. Even if your initial premise is true it doesn't mean anything to someone in his shoes. He doesn't need to realize his exception. Exceptional people have no need to realize their exceptional nature. They can of course, but they don't need unexceptional people preaching it to them.

A: Was I talking to you?

B: Why are you trying to be a dick?

[windjc]

Meh..I disagree completely. I have been divorced now for 10 years after 17 years of a mostly wonderful marriage, I have 3 beautiful children and a solid relationship with my ex that I would not trade for the world. Marriage and life are what you make of it. If you put a negative connotation on something it will most likely be that in reality. Just a thought.

Yeah, but you have to realize that your relationship with your ex is the exception and not the rule. Most men get royally screwed over by the ex-wives, both during the whole rotten, depressing marriage and then afterward.

Sounds like you didn't.

Also sounds like you had substantial disposable income to spend on your teenage daughters, and a willingness to do it. Very antithesis to what most men have post-divorce.

Who cares? If he is the exception to the rule he is not the exception to rule because of luck, but because of a series of choices he made throughout his life most likely. Even if your initial premise is true it doesn't mean anything to someone in his shoes. He doesn't need to realize his exception. Exceptional people have no need to realize their exceptional nature. They can of course, but they don't need unexceptional people preaching it to them.

A: Was I talking to you?

B: Why are you trying to be a dick?

You were talking to all of us who read this thread.  I am not being a dick. Just being intellectually honest.

[Torque]

A: Was I talking to you?

B: Why are you trying to be a dick?

You were talking to all of us who read this thread.  I am not being a dick. Just being intellectually honest.

You tried insulting me by calling my unexceptional, without knowing a thing about me. And tried peacocking and telling everyone what a great swinger you are with the all ladies.

Mmmkay... how about intellectually, honestly, fucking off?

[jojo69]

Meh..I disagree completely. I have been divorced now for 10 years after 17 years of a mostly wonderful marriage, I have 3 beautiful children and a solid relationship with my ex that I would not trade for the world. Marriage and life are what you make of it. If you put a negative connotation on something it will most likely be that in reality. Just a thought.

Yeah, but you have to realize that your relationship with your ex is the exception and not the rule. Most men get royally screwed over by the ex-wives, both during the whole rotten, depressing marriage and then afterward.

Sounds like you didn't.

Also sounds like you had substantial disposable income to spend on your teenage daughters, and a willingness to do it. Very antithesis to what most men have post-divorce.

I'm not going to say you are wrong Torque, even with the use of the word "most".  I am, however, going to point out that there are very divergent norms in different subcultures.

In my peer group, while nearly all former couples have moved on from their procreative pair bonds, the norm is of friendship and cooperation in the remaining child rearing responsibilities...but then I tend to hang out with grown ups.

[Rosewater Foundation]

Speaking of Bitcoin, who the hell voted for another leg down in the poll. I didn't approve of this.

Bob?