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June 18, 2018, 05:09:41 PM |
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Bitmex is a bucketshop you noobs. It does not matter who gets liquidated or longs or shorts there. Bitmex positions don't drive the market; people would manipulate the real market to blow up Bitmex positions, not vice versa. But what type of serious money would actually trade on a fucking bucketshop scam site in the first place? If people were manipulating the real bitcoin market solely to try and sway positions on some tiny bucket shop nobody sane would actually trade on, it means the bitcoin market is far more pitiful than anyone could imagine.
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Toxic2040
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June 18, 2018, 05:11:31 PM |
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Still some Barting activity. I don't buy it sorry. Sad to admit a few people are making a shit-ton of money due to this self-evident manipulation.
Well..that is your prerogative I guess. My take on it is this.. I know for about a 95% certainty that bitcoins price will at least double in the next twelve months. I dont know where you can find better odds than that at present. D I would call this a corrective move upwards not only due to technicals but also fiat fleeing legacy markets on a downturn. On the daily we are still well below moving averages. I would estimate a conservative target of $7.26k by months end.  W Perspective  #dyor
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June 18, 2018, 05:17:11 PM |
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I would call this a corrective move upwards not only due to technicals but also fiat fleeing legacy markets on a downturn. Baby boomers fleeing the stock market to invest their life savings in shitcoins? /facepalm. You guys are getting desperate to come up for excuses as to what actually moves the bitcoin market when it's entirely Bitfinex fraud whether it goes up or down.
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June 18, 2018, 05:21:07 PM |
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WTF is going on with the sudden volume. Holy sheeit !!
Low volume on bitstamp. Mediocre volume on Gdax. Extreme volume fraud on Bitfinex as usual.
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June 18, 2018, 05:22:06 PM |
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I am referring to the right here, right now situation. In the past few weeks Bart is up and running. I said I'm here for the long run many times, no need to explain further. Simply warning that there are green candles and green candles. DYOR, always  EDIT: two upperbarts...
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bitChipper
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June 18, 2018, 05:30:07 PM |
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I would call this a corrective move upwards not only due to technicals but also fiat fleeing legacy markets on a downturn. Baby boomers fleeing the stock market to invest their life savings in shitcoins? /facepalm. You guys are getting desperate to come up for excuses as to what actually moves the bitcoin market when it's entirely Bitfinex fraud whether it goes up or down. You really think that a small generation in the USA would have an effect on the crypto market? These markets are open 24/7 and are open to all age groups around the world, we don't care if baby boomers can buy crypto or not when a 13 year old in malaysia can put all his money into bitcoin.
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bitChipper
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June 18, 2018, 05:30:50 PM |
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WTF is going on with the sudden volume. Holy sheeit !!
Low volume on bitstamp. Mediocre volume on Gdax. Extreme volume fraud on Bitfinex as usual. Looks to me like top volume is binance, but it's against USDT so rage on i guess....
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Toxic2040
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June 18, 2018, 05:39:59 PM |
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Baby boomers Roach?? I dont think so. This is institutional. I have decided to cut you some slack because I have realized you must be very young. Try to forgive..it will blow your mind. There is still hope. I am referring to the right here, right now situation. In the past few weeks Bart is up and running. I said I'm here for the long run many times, no need to explain further. Simply warning that there are green candles and green candles. DYOR, always  EDIT: two upperbarts... But..but..what if its a reverse Bart? 
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June 18, 2018, 05:41:39 PM |
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...The concept of fungibility goes to a kind of blacklisting of coins that cause some coins to be less spendible than others, and there is no fucking blacklisting going on through segwit or through lightning network...
To be a little more concise and make this statement clearer: Fungibility equates to indistinguishably and nothing more, blacklisting is a method. Blacklisting cannot be applied to anything that is fungible.
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June 18, 2018, 06:05:57 PM |
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The BIS report is nothing new, BTC asic uses energy and they say all value can be compromised easily. Where as FIAT is tied to national trade and so far superior. Just seems like a biased view, not especially insightful The cash app has a license in NYC, big area but not massive news yet either. The graph view is more interesting and possibly more bullish should we keep improving, confirm above this level https://i.imgur.com/d1iIfCI.png
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June 18, 2018, 06:23:11 PM |
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WTF is going on with the sudden volume. Holy sheeit !!
BOOYAAAAA =) WEEEEEEEEEE 
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June 18, 2018, 06:24:59 PM |
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Of course this fungibility is not an issue, until either a government or individuals begin to engage in a practice of changing value of coins based on demarcation, which is currently not an issue, but instead a speculation of an issue that could come up perhaps maybe blah blah blah. And, also assuming that there is no way to remove history, then there is a way that coins could begin to look distinguishable from their history... but so far remains a BIG SO FUCKING WHAT?
For me, the dream of fungibility died when Ross Ulbricht went to prison.
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June 18, 2018, 06:33:24 PM |
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Baby boomers Roach?? I dont think so. This is institutional. I have decided to cut you some slack because I have realized you must be very young. Try to forgive..it will blow your mind. There is still hope. I am referring to the right here, right now situation. In the past few weeks Bart is up and running. I said I'm here for the long run many times, no need to explain further. Simply warning that there are green candles and green candles. DYOR, always  EDIT: two upperbarts... But..but..what if its a reverse Bart?  belgium WINS 3-0 new terms like REVERSE BART etc ......  KEEP it going
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June 18, 2018, 06:36:04 PM |
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I would call this a corrective move upwards not only due to technicals but also fiat fleeing legacy markets on a downturn. Baby boomers fleeing the stock market to invest their life savings in shitcoins? /facepalm. You guys are getting desperate to come up for excuses as to what actually moves the bitcoin market when it's entirely Bitfinex fraud whether it goes up or down. You really think that a small generation in the USA would have an effect on the crypto market? These markets are open 24/7 and are open to all age groups around the world, we don't care if baby boomers can buy crypto or not when a 13 year old in malaysia can put all his money into bitcoin. Most of the boomers are still skeptical of Bitcoin, but excited about "blockchain". Anyway, many of them don't possess the technical skills to buy Bitcoin. Maybe we'll see them meaningfully invested when they can call up their Fidelity guy and order up $X of the Bitcorn ETF.
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June 18, 2018, 06:36:14 PM |
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June 18, 2018, 06:37:00 PM |
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So you cede that these issues exist. Great.
Did my reply imply as much? I don't think they are issues - that's why I was asking. After bitserve, fluidjax too pointed out the meaninglessness of focusing on 51% attacks as segwit-specific attack vectors. Fungibility isn't a real issue, either - still IMHO. As SW transactions become the majority, only old or newborn coins will be left in your Type 1 (coins that were never touched by a SW transaction). Besides, LN acts as a kind of giant mega-tumbler. If/when LN really gets into widespread use, it will only help fungibility rather than undermine it. Segwit isn't flawed all of Jbrehere arguments are all flawed  Typical Bcasher's echo chamber. Haha. D^4, you have all the arguing skills of a precocious seven year old. kampai!
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June 18, 2018, 06:47:12 PM |
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As I posted between there and here, Segwit creates three classes of Bitcoins. Each with distinctly different exposure to security vulnerabilities. 1) Those that are completely free of any Segwit taint all the way back to their constituent coinbase transactions; 2) Those that are not currently output from a Segwit transaction, but have Segwit taint between here and their constituent coinbase transactions; and 3) Those that are the output of a Segwit transaction.
now trying to pervert the concept of fungibility. Just because a coin is being used in a specific way that does not make such coin more or less fungible than if such coin is used in another way. Geeze, JJG - you need to look up the definition of 'fungible'. Geez jbreher... I see no reason for me to look up anything related to fungibility. You are trying to make some kind of assertion that lack of fungibility is an issue, and seems that you are just making shit up. Absolutely false. I am merely saying that Segwit creates a triple-classed asset. And that this is by definition a lack of fungibility. You said that I am "now trying to pervert the concept of fungibility". You were 100% wrong. Own it. That is definitively a lack of fungibility. A lack of fungibility is in no way limited to some sort of centralized blacklisting.
O.k. Fungibility issues would exist if some coins were easier to spend then others or if I could not get my coins sent because of some issue with them being tainted in some kind of way. Again, where is the evidence of this seemingly fabricated issue (and if it is not completely fabricated it is surely greatly exaggerated)? The evidence is already given. Segwit creates a triple-classed asset. And that this is by definition a lack of fungibility. Sure some BIG BLOCKER nutjobs are going to continue to exaggerate negative speculation, like you seem to be doing, and to spread disinformation about supposed catastrophes of lightning network in order to pump their stupid-ass and largely non-substantiated negative talking points.
If you want to argue the facts of the matter, step up. I made some assertions of fact. Assertions of facts do not make facts, true if you don't show evidence.
but I did. Pony up some counter-arguments. If what I said is 'disinformation', then it should be a simple matter for you to put forth proof that they are false.
I have no burden to put forth facts to rebut your bare assertions, because I have not seen anything rising to the level of meaningful facts ( beyond assertions about what could happen ... not something that is actually happening) Facts about what could happen. Exactly.
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