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[JayJuanGee]

(Extreme) panic has set in for me without doubt. Wish I’d sold it all at $19,000

Everyone always wishes they sold at the high. I have a target price since I bought in 2013. I won't sell any stash till then and will ride it to zero if I have too. I just don't want too.

lmao..

when it was 20k, these guys were saying hodllll.

now it is 4.5k, they are still saying hodllll.

so sad.

Well dick head, go look at the chart of bitcoin price since it started. those hodlers have done pretty damn well for themselves. 

Lmao. You are a real moron who contradicts himself in the same post.

I am not a hodler. I am an investor. I bought BTC to sell it to make money not to marry with it like you guys. I bought it at 8k, sold it at 17k.

But you hodlers, bought it at 1K, 2K, it reached 19K you still didn't sell it. Now it is 4.5k, you are still not selling it.

So who made the money now? Hodler or investor?

Anyway, wait for another 2-3 years until BTC reaches that level again so you can sell to make some money after hodling for 5-6 years.

You seem to be assuming too much, and in the context that you use the term "investor," you do not seem to fit.

Sounds like you gambled and your gamble paid off (according to your version).

Investors take longer term approaches, and there is really no need to denigrate people merely because they largely accumulate and hold.  Many longer term theories about investing involve just that, which is a kind of dollar cost averaging and continuoing to buy and hold the asset.

If you think that you are doing better and you are gloating, then you are likely trying to criticize people in retrospect, which seems quite unnecessary... because even though some of the holders and accumulators that you are criticizing are currently going through turmoils and questioning their prior judgement(s) they are also likely going to continue to accumulate BTC and to HODL it and their BTC holdings are likely to perform quite well, and likely going to outperform a large majority of other investments... especially looking at a t 5-10 year time horizon.

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[PoolMinor]

Changed my avatar, but the old one won't go away, why?

It takes a little while, it will change soon.

[BHSMC]

Lmao. You are a real moron who contradicts himself in the same post.

I am not a hodler. I am an investor. I bought BTC to sell it to make money not to marry with it like you guys. I bought it at 8k, sold it at 17k.

But you hodlers, bought it at 1K, 2K, it reached 19K you still didn't sell it. Now it is 4.5k, you are still not selling it.

So who made the money now? Hodler or investor?

Anyway, wait for another 2-3 years until BTC reaches that level again so you can sell to make some money after hodling for 5-6 years.

If that's the case, your profit then pales in comparison to mine.

Surely. But again I am an investor. I made my money within 5-6 months. Whatever I earned from BTC, I could use that profit for something else that could get me more $$$.

On the other hand, you made x amount of profit in 5 years. Lots of stress, emotions, ups and downs. Yes you might make more than I made but all the stress and long 5-6 years. The difference in profit worth it or not? That's the real question.

I would rather make small profit but in a quick way without any headache or stress.

[PoolMinor]

You seem to be assuming too much, and in the context that you use the term "investor," you do not seem to fit.

Sounds like you gambled and your gamble paid off (according to your version).

Investors take longer term approaches, and there is really no need to denigrate people merely because they largely accumulate and hold.  Many longer term theories about investing involve just that, which is a kind of dollar cost averaging and continuoing to buy and hold the asset.

If you think that you are doing better and you are gloating, then you are likely trying to criticize people in retrospect, which seems quite unnecessary... because even though some of the holders and accumulators that you are criticizing are currently going through turmoils and questioning their prior judgement(s) they are also likely going to continue to accumulate BTC and to HODL it and their BTC holdings are likely to perform quite well, and likely going to outperform a large majority of other investments... especially looking at a t 5-10 year time horizon.

There are long-term investors---You

And there are short term investors, commonly fit a day-trader idealism.
Not everyone can be as cool as you.


in·ves·tor
/inˈvestər/
noun
noun: investor; plural noun: investors
a person or organization that puts money into financial schemes, property, etc. with the expectation of achieving a profit.

[mindrust]

I remember when btc marketcap was 10billion USD then after gox happened it was down to a couple billions. I wondered, if that money will ever be coming back. (Deep in me, I knew it was gonna but still didn't invest) It did. And then some.

Same thing is happening again. Just on a larger scale.

That money will come back. And bring its rich as fuck other friends along with it.

[somac.]

If that's the case, your profit then pales in comparison to mine.

Everyone always wishes they sold at the high. I have a target price since I bought in 2013. I won't sell any stash till then and will ride it to zero if I have too. I just don't want too.

Wow, so which is it, did you hodl, or did you sell?

Getting closer to that 1% target on that info graphic I fixed earlier

I do both, but all profit goes back into more bitcoin, hopefully when the price drops (I absolutely consider myself a hodler though), but, I do have separate stashes for this, and I buy every pay day but I only started doing that when the price got back into the 6000s.

I did not sell at the top. I wish I did, but I thought it would get to my price, I was absolutely wrong there.

my goal is to grow my stash until ultimate price is reached then sell a portion. That portion will be for living and diversification.  The remaining portion never gets sold, but I may buy things with it if buying with btc ever gets to be a common thing.

[JayJuanGee]

I doubt it.  

Did you even notice the original comment made by the person I quoted in the original post?
I doubt it.  

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg48054952#msg48054952


Go back and read under the picture, and then re-read my post, I will wait right here for you--sucka

Seems pretty easy to see it was a clear joke, but alas you are in a cave.

Of course, I read the posts before I responded.

If I had made some kind of misreading mistake of some material and important point or you had pointed out some kind of profound point about some material and important point that I might have missed, then I would have conceded that I made a mistake or that I missed such point(s).

That did not happen.  Instead you got all caught up in technical nitty gritty in order to attempt to be right, about nothing.

Accordingly, seems to be no need to get caught in baloney proofs and to take matters personally about nonsense.  I made my various adult points and you made your various ridiculous and childish points.  What else needs to be said?   

Bottom yet, by the way?  $4,485 seems like enough, but something tells me that there is at least going to be an attempt to test $4k.... 

[JayJuanGee]

Fucking amazing man

yeah i do like the HAT

gonna make some t-shirts as well .... little personal BTC related gear and not the already usual shit with BTC logo that everybody got....

this kind of +points of my personal crypto sphere are good to fight my personal bitterness of the current DIP's and keeping my mind on the end goal

mass useage of BTC and green everywhere

The only way that you could actually do all of this stuff that you proclaim is to have a micgoosen marketing team, so maybe you should discontinue acting as if you are merely one person and what you do and say are from just one person (implying a real person).       

haha LoL nice you say that cause i'm ALL alone
and took 15minutes so not so much of time .... i would like a micg team
but got all the possible minds and back up in THE WO

WHAT of a team would XhomerX be working with

I was making my new tentative conclusion about you... not XhomerX.

Currently in my thinking, XhomerX has very decent odds of being a real and regular kind of peep, and I recall that about less than a year ago, he became more creative with his memes, and recently moved on to hats. 

Surely, anyone in these here forums might not be a real peep, so I cannot say anything with certainty... but my tentative conclusion about you has become.. micpeep is not the one real peep that s/he/it portrays himself/herself/itself to be.       

If you think that... it's because you don't have any idea how bad micgoosen's OPSEC is. Even worse than jbreher. Seriously.

That's what the team of micpeep wants you to think... Good luck with those kinds of presumptions regarding micpeep being an actual real peep, in any kind of close approximation of what s/he/it presents.   

F*** like 10 pages further..... the night team probably was a sleep ......
Yet just saw 4.5 is broken
Honeymic turns over and Will sleep 1hour more
(Lfc stay strong, do not regret to much bounce back Will be real as well)
See you Guy’s later

You see, the robot aspect of micpeep (or perhaps his team of robots) does not sleep.   

[jbreher]

The reality is...no matter how much things are advancing, less merchants are accepting bitcoin. Mainly thanks to Coinbase dropping their merchant sector and Bitpay switching to BCH.

Not until BTC was rendered unusable in their use cases. Utterly preventable, and widely foreseen.

[PoolMinor]

I do both, but all profit goes back into more bitcoin, hopefully when the price drops (I absolutely consider myself a hodler though), but, I do have separate stashes for this, and I buy every pay day but I only started doing that when the price got back into the 6000s.

I did not sell at the top. I wish I did, but I thought it would get to my price, I was absolutely wrong there.

my goal is to grow my stash until ultimate price is reached then sell a portion. That portion will be for living and diversification.  The remaining portion never gets sold, but I may buy things with it if buying with btc ever gets to be a common thing.

Thank you for the nice explanation. Sounds as though your strategy is working rather well then. 

[Arriemoller]

Fucking amazing man

yeah i do like the HAT

gonna make some t-shirts as well .... little personal BTC related gear and not the already usual shit with BTC logo that everybody got....

this kind of +points of my personal crypto sphere are good to fight my personal bitterness of the current DIP's and keeping my mind on the end goal

mass useage of BTC and green everywhere

The only way that you could actually do all of this stuff that you proclaim is to have a micgoosen marketing team, so maybe you should discontinue acting as if you are merely one person and what you do and say are from just one person (implying a real person).       

haha LoL nice you say that cause i'm ALL alone
and took 15minutes so not so much of time .... i would like a micg team
but got all the possible minds and back up in THE WO

WHAT of a team would XhomerX be working with

I was making my new tentative conclusion about you... not XhomerX.

Currently in my thinking, XhomerX has very decent odds of being a real and regular kind of peep, and I recall that about less than a year ago, he became more creative with his memes, and recently moved on to hats. 

Surely, anyone in these here forums might not be a real peep, so I cannot say anything with certainty... but my tentative conclusion about you has become.. micpeep is not the one real peep that s/he/it portrays himself/herself/itself to be.       

If you think that... it's because you don't have any idea how bad micgoosen's OPSEC is. Even worse than jbreher. Seriously.

That's what the team of micpeep wants you to think... Good luck with those kinds of presumptions regarding micpeep being an actual real peep, in any kind of close approximation of what s/he/it presents.   

F*** like 10 pages further..... the night team probably was a sleep ......
Yet just saw 4.5 is broken
Honeymic turns over and Will sleep 1hour more
(Lfc stay strong, do not regret to much bounce back Will be real as well)
See you Guy’s later

Sleep tight, gave you seven merits as a thank you for your competitions.

[kingcolex]

The reality is...no matter how much things are advancing, less merchants are accepting bitcoin. Mainly thanks to Coinbase dropping their merchant sector and Bitpay switching to BCH.

Not until BTC was rendered unusable in their use cases. Utterly preventable, and widely foreseen.

Wasn't coinbase in a huge scandal for essentially insider trading when they went live with BCH? Bitpay just sounds like they had Roger get to them and they made a big fuckup.

[cool4y]

The price will drop until buying morale improves.

This increase in volatility is absolutely the best that could happen. Bitcoins without volatility is either 100% domination or the project being dead.

We are watching healing in process.

Buy when there is blood on the streets, sell when people are greedy.

[JayJuanGee]

You seem to be assuming too much, and in the context that you use the term "investor," you do not seem to fit.

Sounds like you gambled and your gamble paid off (according to your version).

Investors take longer term approaches, and there is really no need to denigrate people merely because they largely accumulate and hold.  Many longer term theories about investing involve just that, which is a kind of dollar cost averaging and continuoing to buy and hold the asset.

If you think that you are doing better and you are gloating, then you are likely trying to criticize people in retrospect, which seems quite unnecessary... because even though some of the holders and accumulators that you are criticizing are currently going through turmoils and questioning their prior judgement(s) they are also likely going to continue to accumulate BTC and to HODL it and their BTC holdings are likely to perform quite well, and likely going to outperform a large majority of other investments... especially looking at a t 5-10 year time horizon.

There are long-term investors---You

And there are short term investors, commonly fit a day-trader idealism.
Not everyone can be as cool as you.


in·ves·tor
/inˈvestər/
noun
noun: investor; plural noun: investors
a person or organization that puts money into financial schemes, property, etc. with the expectation of achieving a profit.

Hey... each of us attempts to tailor his/her btc trading and investing strategy to his own personal circumstances, and maybe some succeed in tailoring their strategy/approach better than others?    those things include view of bitcoin, risk tolerance, cash flow, other investments, timeline, and perhaps a few other things.

Even though I might frequently attempt to overshare my approach, I also inquire about variations regarding the approach that others take and their weighing of personal factors, and surely from participation in this thread, we discover a lot of differing personal variations and views and also sometimes changes in those personal factors.

[FractalUniverse]

quick someone post something cheerfull

[I just saw the chart in the morning.. apparently there was no temporary bottom holding it over night   ]

[kingcolex]

quick someone post something cheerfull

[I just saw the chart in the morning.. apparently there was no temporary bottom holding it over night   ]

Eh it's down today up tomorrow, whatever it's just a speedbump.

[kenzawak]

Over the past week we have seen behavior indicative of market manipulation by OKEx, and estimate $400mm+ of futures contracts have been forced into liquidation as a result.

https://medium.com/@amberaigroup/okex-its-time-to-pay-the-piper-c242ec4ace47

[jbreher]

Wasn't coinbase in a huge scandal for essentially insider trading when they went live with BCH?

There were rumors. Nothing ever came from investigations.

[somac.]

I do both, but all profit goes back into more bitcoin, hopefully when the price drops (I absolutely consider myself a hodler though), but, I do have separate stashes for this, and I buy every pay day but I only started doing that when the price got back into the 6000s.

I did not sell at the top. I wish I did, but I thought it would get to my price, I was absolutely wrong there.

my goal is to grow my stash until ultimate price is reached then sell a portion. That portion will be for living and diversification.  The remaining portion never gets sold, but I may buy things with it if buying with btc ever gets to be a common thing.

Thank you for the nice explanation. Sounds as though your strategy is working rather well then.  

I could have done much better, and it still all depends on if this thing goes up again. I'm a btc fanatic, so think it will, but history is littered with the corpses or fanatics. Of course I'll be fine regardless, it would just suck if it never comes back.

[somac.]

The price will drop until buying morale improves.

This increase in volatility is absolutely the best that could happen. Bitcoins without volatility is either 100% domination or the project being dead.

We are watching healing in process.

Buy when there is blood on the streets, sell when people are greedy.

This is why I refuse to sell anything at the moment.