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April 23, 2019, 12:45:46 PM

It feels good to have BTC 'children'.
My coiner friend - by his own initiative - took it to the next level:



First one in town, second one on the island.
Fees are high though, 9% to buy, 4.5% to sell (debatable after a certain volume).
Loved the paper wallet option - especially the legacy part - & the absence of KYC.

Watching him explain it to customers was priceless. Pure FOMO.
Lightning node & accepting BTC payments is next. Wink
I'm proud.
Please tell me that was an empty paper wallet and you did not just post a private key.
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April 23, 2019, 12:47:13 PM

And still, when that day comes then you Will always have to face the greedy demon of yes i’m rich where I wanna be when you reached your goal, but then many Will think It can be more and I wanna have more and NEW expensive things that are still out of reach Will become more interesting etc.... Smiley

When I reached however many trillions it was in paper value I celebrated by buying a second hand hat.

Then I sent it back because it was crap.

You live in Zimbabwe ?

Also XhomerX Made you a very NEW one.... wasn’t good as well Roll Eyes

Your Maybe not the most easy to please??
Goose, not sure you know who you're dealing with here



Hmmm, infofront dressed as gentlemand hodling Mic? What's this about?
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April 23, 2019, 12:47:41 PM

“I was free for a moment. Probably the freest person in the world.” - Elwar

 

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 Godspeed U 2.


edit: Credit to MicG - it was his suggestion.


Very Nice gonna put that one on when i’m home Wink

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Very nice hat. Let me do add +1 on behalf of you.. Can I request a new one?
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April 23, 2019, 12:54:10 PM

Did Fudsters run out of Fud?

Remember in 14 and 15 when US Marshals would announce a Silk Road Bitcoin auction every time we had a strong rally.

No more auctions.

China Bans dont work anymore.

Chinese Miners cant block Segwit anymore.

Big Blockers already forked themselves into irrelevance and shame.

Craig Wright Fud isnt moving the market anymore.

Bitcoin uses all the electricity in the galaxy doesnt work anymore.


What will Fudsters do now?Huh?




Is this the end of FUD?

100k soon  Cheesy ??
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April 23, 2019, 01:04:13 PM

100k soon  Cheesy ??

I need to use the toilet, something has come up if you know what I mean Cheesy
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April 23, 2019, 01:08:07 PM

I don't know why would anybody risk his life to build a "seastead" while you can buy one of these:
BAVARIA C57





The interior is huge. There are people who actually live on these boats. Life is too short to risk it against dumb/corrupt governments. He already has the money to buy even a bigger boat than this and can live with his girlfriend without worrying about anything.
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April 23, 2019, 01:13:24 PM

I don't know why would anybody risk his life to build a "seastead" while you can buy one of these:
BAVARIA C57





The interior is huge. There are people who actually live on these boats. Life is too short to risk it against dumb/corrupt governments. He already has the money to buy even a bigger boat than this and can live with his girlfriend without worrying about anything.

That’s beautiful, it really is. I’d love to be able to buy one. I imagine it’d be very expensive though.
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April 23, 2019, 01:14:21 PM


It is frustrating waiting isn’t it my friend. We could be sitting on absolute gold mines but most of us have to wait for the price to increase fairly significantly to realise those riches.

It’s frustrating working, kissing ass at work & continuing about your daily business when in a few years we can probably all say ‘fuck you’ & walk out.

Nothing comes easily so patience it is. One day brother, one day.

Ugg.. so feeling this... 

Made doubly so, since upper management around here has seemingly recently adopted the attitude of "the beatings will continue till moral improves" .. 

63... that's my number.. 63K...  the day it hits 63K, I put in my notice....

hookers and blow will, unfortunately, have to wait for an order of magnitude above that...  Sad

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April 23, 2019, 01:15:17 PM

Did Fudsters run out of Fud?


What will Fudsters do now?Huh?




Is this the end of FUD?
Elmer Fud lives!
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April 23, 2019, 01:17:35 PM
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Life is too short to risk it against dumb/corrupt governments. He already has the money to buy even a bigger boat than this and can live with his girlfriend without worrying about anything.

It's all about making the things you believe in real. That's to be admired.

I believe more in the average government wanting to slice me into small pieces than the original principle though.

The first person through the door always gets their head blown off. Everyone who comes after shuffles through without a squeak.
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It is frustrating waiting isn’t it my friend. We could be sitting on absolute gold mines but most of us have to wait for the price to increase fairly significantly to realise those riches.

It’s frustrating working, kissing ass at work & continuing about your daily business when in a few years we can probably all say ‘fuck you’ & walk out.

Nothing comes easily so patience it is. One day brother, one day.

Ugg.. so feeling this... 

Made doubly so, since upper management around here has seemingly recently adopted the attitude of "the beatings will continue till moral improves" .. 

63... that's my number.. 63K...  the day it hits 63K, I put in my notice....

hookers and blow will, unfortunately, have to wait for an order of magnitude above that...  Sad



Just make sure you don’t sell everything at 63k. Whatever you continue to HODL can act as a pension pot when you’re old & wrinkly. State & bank pensions fucking suck any way.

I don’t even know what 1 bitcoin will be worth when I’m retirement age but I’d be willing to bet it’ll be a fuck load more than if I put £200 a month into a shitty bank based pension.
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April 23, 2019, 01:24:37 PM
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I don't know why would anybody risk his life to build a "seastead" while you can buy one of these:
BAVARIA C57

https://i.imgur.com/OWd8XLq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6DMhyOx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pv5KCzH.jpg

The interior is huge. There are people who actually live on these boats. Life is too short to risk it against dumb/corrupt governments. He already has the money to buy even a bigger boat than this and can live with his girlfriend without worrying about anything.

That’s beautiful, it really is. I’d love to be able to buy one. I imagine it’d be very expensive though.

Depending on the physical condition, it varies between $500k and a million US Dollars.  Grin
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/Bavaria/C57

Your real problems however, I imagine, only start after you buy it. You see the price tag before you buy this but you don't know what's waiting for you afterwards. The maintenance costs are probably huge as well as its interior. Can't imagine how expensive is a new set of sail fabrics for a boat that big.
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April 23, 2019, 01:27:15 PM

Random BCH thought:


I'm surprised it has actually held up this well, it was around $300 at the start of the fork and remains in that area, still a top 5 coin and I'm sure Roger transferred btc for bch right at the start so he isn't doing too bad financially.  Long term success is still dicey.
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April 23, 2019, 01:27:56 PM

I don't know why would anybody risk his life to build a "seastead" while you can buy one of these:
BAVARIA C57

https://i.imgur.com/OWd8XLq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6DMhyOx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pv5KCzH.jpg

The interior is huge. There are people who actually live on these boats. Life is too short to risk it against dumb/corrupt governments. He already has the money to buy even a bigger boat than this and can live with his girlfriend without worrying about anything.

That’s beautiful, it really is. I’d love to be able to buy one. I imagine it’d be very expensive though.

Depending on the physical condition, it varies between $500k and a million US Dollars.  Grin
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/category/type/Bavaria/C57


I am sure Elwar paid more than that for his seastead.
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April 23, 2019, 01:32:09 PM

I am sure Elwar paid more than that for his seastead.

The truly ridiculous thing about the whole affair is that as far as I know he didn't own it or build it. All he was doing was occupying it.

It looked sodding horrendous to me but I guess the idea will keep your cockles warm when 900 metre waves are battering you for months end.
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April 23, 2019, 01:34:44 PM

I am sure Elwar paid more than that for his seastead.

The truly ridiculous thing about the whole affair is that as far as I know he didn't own it or build it. All he was doing was occupying it.

It looked sodding horrendous to me but I guess the idea will keep your cockles warm when 900 metre waves are battering you for months end.

He’s obviously very, very wealthy. I could think of a fuck loads of places I’d prefer to live if I had that kind of money. It looked horrible tbh!

Whatever floats your boat though I guess (no pun intended).
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It is frustrating waiting isn’t it my friend. We could be sitting on absolute gold mines but most of us have to wait for the price to increase fairly significantly to realise those riches.

It’s frustrating working, kissing ass at work & continuing about your daily business when in a few years we can probably all say ‘fuck you’ & walk out.

Nothing comes easily so patience it is. One day brother, one day.

Ugg.. so feeling this... 

Made doubly so, since upper management around here has seemingly recently adopted the attitude of "the beatings will continue till moral improves" .. 

63... that's my number.. 63K...  the day it hits 63K, I put in my notice....

hookers and blow will, unfortunately, have to wait for an order of magnitude above that...  Sad



Just make sure you don’t sell everything at 63k. Whatever you continue to HODL can act as a pension pot when you’re old & wrinkly. State & bank pensions fucking suck any way.

I don’t even know what 1 bitcoin will be worth when I’m retirement age but I’d be willing to bet it’ll be a fuck load more than if I put £200 a month into a shitty bank based pension.

No worries there my friend...  I've got a spreadsheet already worked up with sell point intervals all the way from here till $1MM (and I'll still have a small stash even at that point) ..  63K is just the point where I've sold enough that I can reallocate the proceeds into a diverse portfolio and be able to live comfortably off of a 4% withdraw rate...  

At this point, the plan is set... The plan was created back when there was no hype or FOMO happening, so I've pretty much taken emotions out of the picture..  Fortunately, I'm one of those personalities that I can follow the plan, and have no regrets later about "what if I'd have just...."  

I can't advocate this method enough... Figure everything out now, and just sit back, relax and go on autopilot..  Also, read the WO thread to keep up to date, and for entertainment value...  this got me through the 2017 bubble without losing my mind, it should work again Smiley


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April 23, 2019, 01:40:16 PM

I am sure Elwar paid more than that for his seastead.

I very much doubt it.  I have been watching the whole process and they were admirably frugal right along.  They used local labor, welded up the spar out in the open, not even in a shop.  Dragged it around with whatever they could scrounge up.

Elwar is NOT profligate with his money, they shopped around for their little boat for some time, and ended up buying a fixxer upper.

I would be quite surprised if there was more than $120K into the prototype all inclusive.
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April 23, 2019, 01:41:03 PM

“I was free for a moment. Probably the freest person in the world.” - Elwar

 

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 Godspeed U 2.


edit: Credit to MicG - it was his suggestion.


Very Nice gonna put that one on when i’m home Wink

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Very nice hat. Let me do add +1 on behalf of you.. Can I request a new one?

THX, man and XhomerX is the HAT man, ask him ..... Smiley

Also I think for who wants they can were the Elwar HAT during his time of trouble Smiley



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It is frustrating waiting isn’t it my friend. We could be sitting on absolute gold mines but most of us have to wait for the price to increase fairly significantly to realise those riches.

It’s frustrating working, kissing ass at work & continuing about your daily business when in a few years we can probably all say ‘fuck you’ & walk out.

Nothing comes easily so patience it is. One day brother, one day.

Ugg.. so feeling this... 

Made doubly so, since upper management around here has seemingly recently adopted the attitude of "the beatings will continue till moral improves" .. 

63... that's my number.. 63K...  the day it hits 63K, I put in my notice....

hookers and blow will, unfortunately, have to wait for an order of magnitude above that...  Sad



Just make sure you don’t sell everything at 63k. Whatever you continue to HODL can act as a pension pot when you’re old & wrinkly. State & bank pensions fucking suck any way.

I don’t even know what 1 bitcoin will be worth when I’m retirement age but I’d be willing to bet it’ll be a fuck load more than if I put £200 a month into a shitty bank based pension.

No worries there my friend...  I've got a spreadsheet already worked up with sell point intervals all the way from here till $1MM (and I'll still have a small stash even at that point) ..  63K is just the point where I've sold enough that I can reallocate the proceeds into a diverse portfolio and be able to live comfortably off of a 4% withdraw rate...  

At this point, the plan is set... The plan was created back when there was no hype or FOMO happening, so I've pretty much taken emotions out of the picture..  Fortunately, I'm one of those personalities that I can follow the plan, and have no regrets later about "what if I'd have just...."  

I can't advocate this method enough... Figure everything out now, and just sit back, relax and go on autopilot..  Also, read the WO thread to keep up to date, and for entertainment value...  this got me through the 2017 bubble without losing my mind, it should work again Smiley




Can somebody do me a favour & Merit siggy_77 please. I’m out atm!

@siggy_77 - You have your head screwed on, sounds like you have it all figured out mate.
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