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April 26, 2019, 12:05:55 AM

Exactly, because fiat is a pain in the ass, every fiat trade is a taxable event. This is close enough within risk.

Not if you're American or British and maybe quite a few others. It's just as taxable as an actual dollar trade.

yeah it sucks here in the USA. anything to anything is a taxable event.

The like-kind transaction capital gains tax postponing (like with real estate) doesn't apply?

There might  be a loophole you can use by becoming a resident of Puerto Rico. However the linked article argues it's debatable if it will work.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/is-puerto-rico-a-crypto-tax-paradise-expert-take
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April 26, 2019, 12:07:54 AM

If they were grinding their teeth that wasn't the right stuff.
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April 26, 2019, 12:08:21 AM

Have you tried psychedelics? I can see MDMA leaving you indifferent depending on the circumstances, but with psychedelics I'd be hard pressed to believe that they wouldn't be profoundly notable even if they'd leave you fully functional on lower doses.

Nope. Never will.

I've known a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back. I don't think it should be as readily eulogised as it is by all and sundry after staring into a few pairs of eyes that were basically rendered empty by them.
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April 26, 2019, 12:10:21 AM
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Anyone knows a Bitcoin block explorer that also capture the fiat value of the tx when it was created.

I paid for a service to someone but since the price is down the provider may think I paid him less ($ value) LOL

Dude, Blockchain.info has this feature. switch to your preferred currency and go with the mouse over the value button. it will shows the value at the time of the tx. and then make a screenshot.

Blockchair also shows the USD value. Here's an example transaction.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9cd69c499a22a8e593028225b1c05de90b92d71b42f05e3644422d2384435579




I think you guys did not understand.

I created this tx 3/4 hours ago when price was $5,4xx but now it's bitcoins is $5,108 (preev rate). The USD value now and then has chanced.

For X amount of USD, the bitcoin ($5,4xx) then was lesser than now($5,1xx).

My question was, is there are block explorer which capture the USD value of the tx when the tx was created. I hope it make sense now.
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April 26, 2019, 12:12:13 AM

If they were grinding their teeth that wasn't the right stuff.
Why not? MDMA does have bruxism as a side effect.

I've known a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back. I don't think it should be as readily eulogised as it is by all and sundry after staring into a few pairs of eyes that were basically rendered empty by them.

Shit happens, but some folks are just begging for it. I'm sure a normal dose of, say, L, couldn't do that to a normal guy.
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April 26, 2019, 12:13:22 AM

If they were grinding their teeth that wasn't the right stuff.
If they were grinding their teeth it certainly was the right stuff. MDMA does that in higher doses (200mg range).


Have you tried psychedelics? I can see MDMA leaving you indifferent depending on the circumstances, but with psychedelics I'd be hard pressed to believe that they wouldn't be profoundly notable even if they'd leave you fully functional on lower doses.

Nope. Never will.

I've known a few people who set off on a trip and never really came back. I don't think it should be as readily eulogised as it is by all and sundry after staring into a few pairs of eyes that were basically rendered empty by them.
Sorry to hear that, especially if they were close.

Do you know under what circumstances they went off on their trip?

So far all such cases that I've found were of people who took it in very sub-optimal environments, mixed it with other drugs, or were already predisposed to problems. Psychedelics are certainly no joke and I would never take them without due consideration.
But if you're in a stable mindset and do proper research and preparation I don't see how it could go wrong - hence the question. I'm trying to find any evidence that it could go bad despite due diligence, which seems impossible to me so far.


Shit happens, but some folks are just begging for it. I'm sure a normal dose of, say, L, couldn't do that to a normal guy.
This is what all the evidence suggests to me so far as well.

I spent years researching all sorts of reports, papers and stories from all sides of the camp before even trying a tiny dose of cubensis for the first time. Went to absurd places numerous times afterwards without any issues whatsoever.
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April 26, 2019, 12:16:58 AM

mmm..that blu cheese dip

think we might get more like it or not

seems to be a concerted effort to drop further and reach $4.8k to close all those lovely shorts

seems that sell in May and go away is becoming a reality

#dyor

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April 26, 2019, 12:18:22 AM

Do you know under what circumstances they went off on their trip?

One guy got a teat pipette full of it emptied into his eye, funnily enough at Glastonbury. He went from being a clever clogs sporting type to spending most of his days sitting in his room staring into space.

I think the others were squat party burn outs in general so they may have been heading for it anyway, but it certainly wouldn't have helped.
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April 26, 2019, 12:22:45 AM

Do you know under what circumstances they went off on their trip?

One guy got a teat pipette full of it emptied into his eye, funnily enough at Glastonbury. He went from being a clever clogs sporting type to spending most of his days sitting in his room staring into space.

I think the others were squat party burn outs in general so they may have been heading for it anyway, but it certainly wouldn't have helped.
Sounds pretty much just as expected then.

I still haven't found a single case where responsible use resulted in anything other than positive experiences. You're basically concluding that alcohol is unsafe because somebody chugged bottles of scotch and sustained permanent braindamage.
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April 26, 2019, 12:25:30 AM

Anyone knows a Bitcoin block explorer that also capture the fiat value of the tx when it was created.

I paid for a service to someone but since the price is down the provider may think I paid him less ($ value) LOL

Dude, Blockchain.info has this feature. switch to your preferred currency and go with the mouse over the value button. it will shows the value at the time of the tx. and then make a screenshot.

Blockchair also shows the USD value. Here's an example transaction.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9cd69c499a22a8e593028225b1c05de90b92d71b42f05e3644422d2384435579




I think you guys did not understand.

I created this tx 3/4 hours ago when price was $5,4xx but now it's bitcoins is $5,108 (preev rate). The USD value now and then has chanced.

For X amount of USD, the bitcoin ($5,4xx) then was lesser than now($5,1xx).

My question was, is there are block explorer which capture the USD value of the tx when the tx was created. I hope it make sense now.

should work as you expect it. if not let us know.



https://www.blockchain.com/en/btc/tx/8da94cc1d623a4f5dc838f62cf59f5c84700c8653347d8e9cacbb8739b5acbc0
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April 26, 2019, 12:25:40 AM

I still haven't found a single case where responsible use resulted in anything other than positive experiences.

I've known plenty who were ultimately fine but had extremely hairy experiences in careful surrounds.

Anyway here's an article from the start of the year that looks like they nailed it 100% - https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/cryptocapital-co-may-be-cryptos-black-swan/
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Anyone knows a Bitcoin block explorer that also capture the fiat value of the tx when it was created.

I paid for a service to someone but since the price is down the provider may think I paid him less ($ value) LOL

Dude, Blockchain.info has this feature. switch to your preferred currency and go with the mouse over the value button. it will shows the value at the time of the tx. and then make a screenshot.

Blockchair also shows the USD value. Here's an example transaction.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/9cd69c499a22a8e593028225b1c05de90b92d71b42f05e3644422d2384435579




I think you guys did not understand.

I created this tx 3/4 hours ago when price was $5,4xx but now it's bitcoins is $5,108 (preev rate). The USD value now and then has chanced.

For X amount of USD, the bitcoin ($5,4xx) then was lesser than now($5,1xx).

My question was, is there are block explorer which capture the USD value of the tx when the tx was created. I hope it make sense now.

I think blockchair does what you want. This example transaction from it shows a $138.67 value for 0.025 BTC at 14:10 on 2019-04-24.

The price of  0.025 BTC is now about $126.725 as a result of the price crash. Blockchair appears to show the USD value of the tx at the time the network accepted it.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/8dd05b1cddb88ee55fae701de1b95059ff6bbfa1db33b88214f0301bbf00b988

This very old transaction from almost two years ago shows a $58.06 value for 0.024 BTC on 2017-06-28 at 16:02.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/10db1b1fd0717b0cc21a29b4e93e3d170d6015b8a159e0085bd4f9452cb0e7b4
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April 26, 2019, 12:31:38 AM

mmm..that blu cheese dip

think we might get more like it or not

seems to be a concerted effort to drop further and reach $4.8k to close all those lovely shorts

seems that sell in May and go away is becoming a reality

#dyor


Hodl and buy more much pretty good. Maybe later part there is resistance.
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I think blockchair does what you want. This example transaction from it shows a $138.67 value for 0.025 BTC at 14:10 on 2019-04-24.

The price of  0.025 BTC is now about $126.725 as a result of the price crash. Blockchair appears to show the USD value of the tx at the time the network accepted it.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/8dd05b1cddb88ee55fae701de1b95059ff6bbfa1db33b88214f0301bbf00b988

This very old transaction from almost two years ago shows a $58.06 value for 0.024 BTC on 2017-06-28 at 16:02.

https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/10db1b1fd0717b0cc21a29b4e93e3d170d6015b8a159e0085bd4f9452cb0e7b4
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April 26, 2019, 12:52:22 AM

Anyway here's an article from the start of the year that looks like they nailed it 100% - https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/cryptocapital-co-may-be-cryptos-black-swan/
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April 26, 2019, 01:08:41 AM

The price of Bitcoin should be skyrocketing on BFX as punters move their cash out.  So why isn’t it?

Edit:  currently $150 spread between BFX and Bitstamp.  Should be more.
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April 26, 2019, 01:11:05 AM

The price of Bitcoin should be skyrocketing on BFX as punters move their cash out.  So why isn’t it?

It's $150 above now. Other Tether places are following. 
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The price of Bitcoin should be skyrocketing on BFX as punters move their cash out.  So why isn’t it?
So we can keep accumulating.
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