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April 11, 2019, 03:59:34 PM
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What a cute CryptoCat. And just a perfect work. The picture is made professionally.

It's just awful what Craig and Calvin are trying to do to the guy.

2009: Satoshi invents Bitcoin
2019: Satoshi has his feelings hurt by a Twitter account and sues the guy who started the Lightning Torch

https://www.stopcraigwright.com/evidence

I'll take one Narrative Collapse with a side order of Lies, please.

That's a surprisingly short list.
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April 11, 2019, 04:17:51 PM

5k breached.

I'd hoped the pullback would come a little later, I mean after flirting with the 6k, but all in all it's still more or less as expected.
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April 11, 2019, 04:23:29 PM

Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?

FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with.

Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare".

Hi Bob

Many of the illegal immigrants are primarily entering the US for jobs.   If you turn off the jobs tap, then many will not come. It will be very effective immigration control.

Do you support making it illegal to employ illegal immigrants, with jail time for US employers who violate the law?
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April 11, 2019, 04:29:46 PM

mother  fucker

goddamnit
Looks like they kicked him out. Poor Julian, he knows too much. I'd give 50/50 odds that he is either quietly liquidated or made the head of the Department of Homeland security.
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April 11, 2019, 04:32:26 PM

While I certainly share Bob's frustration with the US tax system, on immigration I think we have to be honest with ourselves and acknowledge our part in it.

US foreign policy has had a lot to do with the economic and political conditions people are fleeing in Central America.  We made this bed, or at least allowed it to be made in our name.
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April 11, 2019, 04:37:21 PM

Many of the illegal immigrants are primarily entering the US for jobs.   If you turn off the jobs tap, then many will not come. It will be very effective immigration control.

That's nice. Get in line with all the other law-abiding folk looking to do the same.

Do you support making it illegal to employ illegal immigrants, with jail time for US employers who violate the law?

Absolutely.



on immigration I think we have to be honest with ourselves and acknowledge our part in it.

I acknowledge that we have a serious security problem on our southern border. Everything else is irrelevant.
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April 11, 2019, 04:39:24 PM


Do you want a monthly statistic in WO?

Hi I like this.  But it would be great to take it back as far as possible, so we can compare price growth and post count and see if a possible leading indicator. 
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April 11, 2019, 04:42:06 PM

Many of the illegal immigrants are primarily entering the US for jobs.   If you turn off the jobs tap, then many will not come. It will be very effective immigration control.

That's nice. Get in line with all the other law-abiding folk looking to do the same.

Do you support making it illegal to employ illegal immigrants, with jail time for US employers who violate the law?

Absolutely.


Ok.  And you would be ok with this despite the impact on the economy - particularly agriculture and construction? Many farmers and building companies would be wiped out because they cannot survive without cheap labor.  I have also worked on quarter horse ranches in the US and I know how much the horse industry depends on migrant labor.

Like Brexit, effective US immigration controls could cause a recession. You are cool with all this?

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April 11, 2019, 04:43:24 PM

Cheap labor is slave labor
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April 11, 2019, 04:44:12 PM

Many farmers and building companies would be wiped out because they cannot survive without cheap labor.

Capitalism always finds a way.

McDonalds employees started to demand $15 an hour, and were replaced by robots.
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April 11, 2019, 04:45:47 PM

Everything else is irrelevant.

I don't really think that is so.

And yes, I do support the wall.
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April 11, 2019, 04:46:13 PM

Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?

FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with.

Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare".

Hi Bob

Many of the illegal immigrants are primarily entering the US for jobs.   If you turn off the jobs tap, then many will not come. It will be very effective immigration control.

Do you support making it illegal to employ illegal immigrants, with jail time for US employers who violate the law?

Not true in the last couple of years....lots of women with kids and families....the countries they are running from are a cesspool...even being stranded in Mexico
and never making it to the USA is preferable for most...

but the law says in the USA if you present yourself to Immigration authorities and can prove you are in danger...you can get a  hearing on staying in the USA...so

IMHO it is not the people coming ..it is the lack of diplomatic and other efforts in the countries they are coming from that are unraveling...

only going to get worse with climate change and the wars for resources I see coming in the next 20 years....

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April 11, 2019, 04:46:59 PM

Many farmers and building companies would be wiped out because they cannot survive without cheap labor.

Capitalism always finds a way.

McDonalds employees started to demand $15 an hour, and were replaced by robots.

Good I stoped @ 14.99 and didn't demand more Smiley
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April 11, 2019, 04:48:28 PM

I want to be quite clear here.  

Would you both support effective US immigration controls even if it causes a recession and wipes out many family businesses?

Edit:  they shut down illegal immigration in Australia (mostly Pacific Islands) and the farmers rioted because they had no one to pick the harvest.  It will be a hell of a fight in the US as well if immigration is turned off. 
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April 11, 2019, 04:52:42 PM

Would you both support effective US immigration controls even if it causes a recession and wipes out many family businesses?

In the interests of National Security, yes.

the farmers rioted because they had no one to pick the harvest.

Meanwhile, in Mugabe's Africa...
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April 11, 2019, 04:56:06 PM
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Ok thanks.  I just wanted to test that.

In my experience, conservatives like to make a fuss about immigration but aren’t willing to deal with the economic consequences of turning off immigration.  So they deliberately avoid taking effective measures to stop immigration.  

I can respect your clear and consistent thinking on this point, so appreciate your responses.
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April 11, 2019, 05:01:44 PM


Do you want a monthly statistic in WO?

Hi I like this.  But it would be great to take it back as far as possible, so we can compare price growth and post count and see if a possible leading indicator. 

If this is the objective, an quote of the historical and an quote of the current year, published on the 1st of each month.

First I want to know if this information is interesting in the WO thread.

Thx. Wink
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April 11, 2019, 05:05:18 PM

Cheap labor is slave labor

That's an exageration... and you know it.
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April 11, 2019, 05:07:59 PM
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I want to be quite clear here.  

Would you both support effective US immigration controls even if it causes a recession and wipes out many family businesses?

Edit:  they shut down illegal immigration in Australia (mostly Pacific Islands) and the farmers rioted because they had no one to pick the harvest.  It will be a hell of a fight in the US as well if immigration is turned off.  

Justifying people living in a country illegally, sidestepping all the immigration laws, dodging taxes, and gaining all the benefits of a U.S. citizen therein because "cheap labor" and "other reasons" isn't really a valid argument. It's cognitive dissonance. It's also bullshit.

Also, so legal citizens in the U.S. now too privileged and snobby for manual labor? Bloodly hell, American was founded on that shit.
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April 11, 2019, 05:08:35 PM

Why are countries currently holding Bitcoin? Are they confiscated Bitcoins or what?
Even Israel has a bunch...

Yes of course. Trials last for years and in that time they are not allowed to sell them and in that time a million USD become multi millions.

There were recently also rumors that Russia is buying Bitcoin.
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