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April 27, 2019, 11:13:39 PM

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April 27, 2019, 11:18:59 PM

If it's a deeper problem then a bad/loose connector (which I doubt unless it's failing boot) then oof. I'd have to think if I have the balls to do SMd repair on something that high-stakes....

A fellow microsolderer? Respect.

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April 27, 2019, 11:24:14 PM

Lots and lots of BIG words that Hueristic no doesn't understand.

No time to respond now but I'll try to get back to this later.

FTFY  Wink Wink
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April 27, 2019, 11:26:32 PM

If it's a deeper problem then a bad/loose connector (which I doubt unless it's failing boot) then oof. I'd have to think if I have the balls to do SMd repair on something that high-stakes....

A fellow microsolderer? Respect.

"You can never use too much flux."
Flux is nice, air tools are wonderful, and a good pre-heater is God in a box. Yes, I have done a fair amount of surface mount and through hole repairs, including a fair bit of bitcoin miner repairs. These days I'm working on other things as mining repair is not too profitable.

Keeps me out of trouble :-)
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April 27, 2019, 11:28:51 PM

Maybe sister could work here?

Shut the fuck up, you white-knighting, pedantic tosser.

It be called a suggestion based on information that Lauda be a gal and not a guy..... that is all.... That is not white knighting.  Learn what words mean, and get a grip. 



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April 27, 2019, 11:32:45 PM



Boring afternoon, solution:
Sort the hats.
I will save and update the record now that it is created.

Getting Maybe to drunk to write, but do you just take every single user and 1 HAT a user? Think thats best to just have the amount of HATpeople Smiley

Question is because I saw the Elwar-Nadia HAT.....?

I have never seen any post in this here thread from anyone named "Nadia."   Though I have seen posts from Elwar.

Look better

NO reason for me to investigate into something that does not likely exist, and you are the on who raised the name ... without any apparent reference, in terms of participation within this thread.
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April 27, 2019, 11:34:00 PM


God's punishment for pulling a Judas and turning his back on physical metals to embrace designed to centralize, non-fungible, permissioned ledger (((digital currency))) cashless society slavery systems.
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April 27, 2019, 11:39:35 PM


Responsibility of "being your own bank" would minimally suggest that we make meaningful efforts to back up our seed words.   

It is possible that our Trezor could get run over by a boat, or fall into the depths of the Andaman Sea. 

Having this kind of drama about a possible defective device with an experienced bitcoiner makes little sense to me, especially if the amount on the Trezor is anywhere in the territory of 2 bitcoins or more.

Paper Wallet. Water Proof Bag. Safety Deposit box in a Bank. I figure if things are so bad the gov't wants my BTC and/or the bank gets hit by a meteorite or something....the crypto gods simply hate me. Anyway, how I roll on the HODL wallets.

You don't have a back-up?

One good thing about BIP39 is that it allowed for a seed phrase back-up.

Of course, having a seed phrase back up causes another point of vulnerability, in case you lose control of it, but there are also likely ways to sufficiently camouflage your seed words in order to make it more difficult to access your coins.

To some degree, it can be scary to be your own bank.
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April 27, 2019, 11:52:50 PM

it can be scary to be your own bank.

Neither physical metals or digital shitcoin scams get rid of banks.  The vast majority will always outsource security/responsibility to someone else.  That and an enormous percent of people seem to feel they need to put all their funds with some sort of custodian for wills and trusts & such.
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April 27, 2019, 11:55:21 PM
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Long at $20k is a dumb explanation.

No one with any brains is long at $20k for 16 months without, at minimum, making some additional buys to bring down their average cost per BTC.

In other words, it should be quite difficult to sympathize with anyone who made that kind of dumb gambling move to buy at $20k and to sit on it without having further plans and action in the 16 months.

Edit:  By the way, you raised a bit of a different point, Hueristic, so we are deviating from the original point that I was attempting to make.  I went back to my original post, linked above, and for context, that post was questioning how it seems that so many people involved in such a greatly performing asset class, such as bitcoin, since 2013 are "poor."

Maybe because after tasting the paper richness during december 2017 we can now feel how poor we are in comparison? Maybe?

We should have gotten over the correction by now, no?  Also, it is starting to seem that the bottom has better and better chances of being "in."  

It is not psychologically healthy to not be able to accept a decent-sized BTC price correction from nearly a 80x increase from late 2015 to late 2017.  

On a personal level, I think that at the top, my personal holdings were at about 26x, and even after the most severe portion of our most recent correction, my portfolio would have not gone below 3x up, and even now, my holdings are still close to 7x up.

I understand that people got into BTC at differing price points, but I thought that we started out this thread of the conversation by referring to people who have been into bitcoin since 2013, and surely there would have been opportunities to acquire 3 digits coins and even if the conversation transitioned into referring to people who FOMO bought at the December 2017 top, there has been over 16 months to continue to dollar cost average buy and to bring down some cost per BTC.    

Again, it surely does not sm healthy either to consider that BTC price only goes up or to buy more than you can afford to lose, even while the upside potential of bitcoin remains quite stupendous.  I remember battling many BTC  naysayers in 2014, 2015, and 2016 while prices were in the 3 digits but there was also pessimism about whether bitcoin would ever again surpass it's November 2013 high of $1,163.  And, people who were sitting on the fence, failing to buy, and thinking about how "poor" they were as compared with November 2013, likely ended up either missing the BTC boat again or selling way too soon, once they got into profits.  Hopefully those kinds of dumb thoughts do not distract too many peeps again... at least the smarter ones that neither put too many eggs in their basket and exercise some reasonableness an prudence in creating and following a BTC buying and accumulating plan.
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April 28, 2019, 12:04:33 AM

it can be scary to be your own bank.

Neither physical metals or digital shitcoin scams get rid of banks.  The vast majority will always outsource security/responsibility to someone else.  That and an enormous percent of people seem to feel they need to put all their funds with some sort of custodian for wills and trusts & such.

You might be correct that for a considerable amount of time, people are still going to gravitate towards various third party solutions; however, you seem to refuse to accept the magnanimous option that bitcoin seems to offer, including an ability to hold vast quantities of value into the millions and billions and the option NOT to use a bank.

You don't have those kinds of options with traditional physical assets like fiat or PMs...  Even having $10 million in cash would not be easy to move around, like it is with bitcoin.  A billion dollars on bitcoin could be stored and managed a whole hell-of-a lot easier than the same value in cash or Pms.
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April 28, 2019, 12:07:42 AM

Received an invitation from Liverpool, very cool!



https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1121965186691153921

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This is cool to receive  Shocked

So everybody has a partnership with Liverpool ?  Grin
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April 28, 2019, 12:08:13 AM

I'm ready for the moon now. Are you?

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April 28, 2019, 12:09:22 AM


Major suckage.

"I may have lost the seed" - WTaF? Adding insult to injury.
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April 28, 2019, 12:23:18 AM


Major suckage.

"I may have lost the seed" - WTaF? Adding insult to injury.

Maybe he means as in having temporarily unable to access the seed as if it was stored on a seastead or something?

Anyway I think Elwar was more of a paperwallet guy. The ledger he may be using it just for convenience. Even if it sounds as a bit of inconvenience right now if he can't access it.
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You don't have those kinds of options with traditional physical assets like fiat or PMs...  Even having $10 million in cash would not be easy to move around, like it is with bitcoin.  A billion dollars on bitcoin could be stored and managed a whole hell-of-a lot easier than the same value in cash or Pms.

You demonstrate a complete failure of economics 101 understanding.  It's not possible for something to qualify as "money" if it doesn't even qualify as a commodity first.  Nobody refers to video games on Steam as a "commodity" because it's blatantly obvious it's a state-run racket/scam called intellectual property and entirely based on artificial scarcity.  

Bitcoin is no different - another artificial scarcity scam/racket.  The hallmark trait of all currencies is artificial scarcity, while actual money is required to be physical commodity in the real world and not an artificial scarcity racket.  So, no, you are not "storing" $10 million of anything in bitcoin because it's not possible to store value in something completely imaginary based on artificial scarcity.  It's a currency and not money, and on a long enough timeline the value of a currency always goes to zero.  

All you're holding is a temporary pump and dump grenade or financial scam that you're attempting to pass off onto someone else before it explodes, not "storing value".  You need a physical commodity that doesn't expire to do that.
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April 28, 2019, 12:29:01 AM

it can be scary to be your own bank.

Neither physical metals or digital shitcoin scams get rid of banks.  The vast majority will always outsource security/responsibility to someone else.  That and an enormous percent of people seem to feel they need to put all their funds with some sort of custodian for wills and trusts & such.

It is confirmed, Banks and wall street are trading at Bitfinex and guess what, they are so weak.
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Major suckage.

"I may have lost the seed" - WTaF? Adding insult to injury.

Maybe he means as in having temporarily unable to access the seed as if it was stored on a seastead or something?

Anyway I think Elwar was more of a paperwallet guy. The ledger he may be using it just for convenience. Even if it sounds as a bit of inconvenience right now if he can't access it.

Let us all hope...
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April 28, 2019, 12:34:45 AM

I see you again
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