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April 22, 2019, 03:22:04 PM



You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning

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Bitcoin spenders can now use the lightning network to shop at e-commerce sites like Amazon.
Crypto payment processing startup Moon announced today that any lightning-enabled wallet can now also be used through Moon’s browser extension.
Before this lightning feature, roughly 250 beta users already used Moon to spend crypto on e-commerce sites by connecting the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase.

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning

Well, I don’t understand bitcoin spenders. Where all this hurry to spend your bitcoins comes from? You should HODL your bitcoins, not spend them!

its up to them if they will spend it or hold it since they own the coins, but this is great amazon is one of the most biggest companies out there, any adoption is great to bitcoin, i wonder if people knows this.
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April 22, 2019, 03:25:57 PM


You Can Now Shop With Bitcoin on Amazon Using Lightning

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Bitcoin spenders can now use the lightning network to shop at e-commerce sites like Amazon.
Crypto payment processing startup Moon announced today that any lightning-enabled wallet can now also be used through Moon’s browser extension.
Before this lightning feature, roughly 250 beta users already used Moon to spend crypto on e-commerce sites by connecting the browser extension to exchange accounts like Coinbase.

https://www.coindesk.com/you-can-now-shop-with-bitcoin-on-amazon-using-lightning

Well, I don’t understand bitcoin spenders. Where all this hurry to spend your bitcoins comes from? You should HODL your bitcoins, not spend them!


I think this step should be welcome. how are we going to achieve mass adoption if everyone only playing Hodl game. we need easy use case of BTC so that new people can adopt BTC and spend BTC or hodl according to their choice.

Lets see if Amazon India implement this option here in India too, which is very unlikely at current scenario because in india Bitcoin is not legal tender and Court playing football in every Crypto hearing by postponing the dates.
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April 22, 2019, 03:33:12 PM

here we go bumping the long term down line again
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April 22, 2019, 03:38:36 PM

here we go bumping the long term down line again

Time to bull-crush all the lines Smiley
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April 22, 2019, 03:41:05 PM

Finally some movement.

EDIT: 100$ spread on bitmex. What the hell.
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April 22, 2019, 03:51:35 PM

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This was a very short green candle Roll Eyes
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April 22, 2019, 03:52:58 PM

@Bob you can try Gipfy as well, its very easy there. you can trim video, add effect,text etc
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April 22, 2019, 04:12:55 PM

@Bob you can try Gipfy as well, its very easy there. you can trim video, add effect,text etc

I blow $700 a year on the goddamned Adobe Creative Cloud package, I figure I should learn how to properly do it in PS.

That's the thing I hate about the Adobe CC products. If you want to "lease" more than two Adobe products a year, it makes sense to me to just buy the entire fucking suite at the prices they charge.

Sheeeit.

Lol, count yourself lucky you don't need autodesk products
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April 22, 2019, 04:14:36 PM

Ah, Elliot waves


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April 22, 2019, 04:17:54 PM

I really need to learn how to make animated gifs in PS.

It's all about Animated PNGs these days. GIFs are from the 80s, literally.

Anyway, you just need to force your PS to save a sequence of frames as individual (numbered) PNGs, and you're 95% there.

After that, it's super easy.
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April 22, 2019, 04:20:16 PM

@Bob you can try Gipfy as well, its very easy there. you can trim video, add effect,text etc

I blow $700 a year on the goddamned Adobe Creative Cloud package, I figure I should learn how to properly do it in PS.

That's the thing I hate about the Adobe CC products. If you want to "lease" more than two Adobe products a year, it makes sense to me to just buy the entire fucking suite at the prices they charge.

Sheeeit.

I am just hoping that you didn't bought the licence for just creating gif Cheesy if not then all good.

If yes then please use giphy Cheesy with gipfy you can create gif with your phone too

I never subscribe with any Adobe software so don't have any idea. only time I bought the licence for sculpting software "Zbrush" was in last year 2018 and its for professional use. it was cheap and got the deal with btc payment


Autodesk pricing is sick as fuck, only studios can afford their pricing.
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April 22, 2019, 04:28:08 PM

Lol, count yourself lucky you don't need autodesk products
People only think they need adsk products.
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April 22, 2019, 04:35:07 PM
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https://twitter.com/100trillionusd/status/1120265384932859904?s=21
#bitcoin stock-to-flow model is a power law (BTC$ = 0.4*SF^3).

This means SF change vs BTC$ change is constant: SF 2x = BTC$ 8x .. all the way from $0.01 to $10,000 .. and possibly to $100k and $1mln etc


Omg every tweet by PlanB is Gold.
I would also to say that he can write so much better than me what I “feel”.
Pure gold.

I have to admit thou, that even in the wildest dream of hyperbitcoinisation I cannot see BTC to USD 3,200,000. This would imply a massive USD devaluation: can the world be with a sort of Venezuelan Bolivar?

He's awesome.
He mentions that the model price should hold for the 2020 halving, and maybe the 2024 halving. Beyond that, it's uncertain.

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...dont extrapolate any model too far out. I think it will hold another one or two maybe three halvings, after that market value in $ becomes a little crazy.
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April 22, 2019, 04:39:04 PM

Great interview on the What Bitcoin Did podcast: https://www.whatbitcoindid.com/podcast/peter-rizuns-lightning-critique-fud-or-fair

I assume a number of you will summarily dismiss this, rushing to judgement before examining the evidence. But for the open-minded, certainly worth a listen.

I am truly looking forward to the necessitated responses from the LN-faithful. Well, to the extent that such responses be substantive. If this conversation carries forward in a respectful manner, we may all learn a thing or two.

edit: Incidentally, this has been 'Lightning Month' on What Bitcoin Did. Quite a few good installments, each focusing on a different aspect of Lightning.

https://stephanlivera.com/episode/68

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Joost Jager, Lightning Network Infrastructure Engineer at Lightning Labs, joins me in this episode to talk about Lightning Loop Out and In. We also discuss some of the recent criticisms of the Lightning Network by Peter Rizun. We talk:

    How Lightning Loop helps you manage inbound liquidity, or pay with BTC on chain to get outgoing capacity on a lightning channel
    Practical uses of Lightning Loop technology
    Some of the technicals behind how Lightning Loop works e.g. hodlinvoice
    Thoughts and responses to Peter Rizun’s criticisms of the Lightning Network
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April 22, 2019, 04:39:53 PM

Lol, count yourself lucky you don't need autodesk products
People only think they need adsk products.

some autodesk product are good for their use case and friendly viewport.

For example : Maya compare this with Softimage Xsi ( now autodesk product) and Blender

They are cheap and free but studios don't prefer them.

Softimage Xsi is only used by Japanese, they are moving towards other 3d software as well.

Blender(free) is for only freelancers and handful studio use them in regular base.
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April 22, 2019, 04:58:58 PM

https://i.imgur.com/3n8iHZQ.png

Not your Node
Not Bitcoin

Sure, it's pithy. But WTF does that even mean?


It's a good hook to remember that you can have your own Full Node.

Hmm. I guess some people need reminding. I guess.

OTOH, still is a nonsensical way of going about it. I note that you have not divulged what it _means_. Grammatically incomplete, if nothing else.

It means dear bear, exactly what you think.  No private keys...no bitcoin. Why are you so unfailingly obtuse? You take some perverse pleasure in making people actually think?

I have nearly-invariably found that making people actually think is usually good policy, and often leads to dispelling false axioms.

Yeah, I get 'No private keys... no bitcoin'. That makes perfect sense. Now draw me the link between "your Node" and "private keys".
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April 22, 2019, 05:32:44 PM

Block: 572731
created Time   2019-04-22 07:10:42
Received Time   2019-04-22 07:10:42
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-height/572731

Block: 572732
created Time   2019-04-22 07:10:33
Received Time   2019-04-22 07:10:33
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/block-height/572732

Latter block but early time how it is possible? How 572732 created 9 seconds ago of 572731?

Timestamps are not absolute. Clocks drift, and the protocol allows for a limited amount of slip before considering a block invalid.
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April 22, 2019, 05:33:23 PM

People in Bitcoin love to talk about separating signal from noise but get caught up in the noisiest, short-term drama creating, clout chasing, bullshit nonsense that will have no effect on Bitcoin in the long-term.

Do less.

https://twitter.com/MartyBent/status/1120131246166818818
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April 22, 2019, 05:39:10 PM

I am convinced that cryptocurrency is not used for money laundring, I am convinced that cryptos users are not laundering money.

I am convinced that you are somewhat naive. I don't believe that the use of crypto for money laundering is pervasive, but I'd be rather astonished to learn that it just plain does not occur.

Of course, I also believe that 'money laundering' laws criminalize perfectly legitimate behavior, and are a travesty of justice. Not to mention a huge burden on society, and an illegitimate excuse for all sorts of surveillance (i.e., spying) usurpations of rights.
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