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Always a good reminder Wink
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Always a good reminder Wink

Ok,
I like the message in this meme, I get the point, but to be intellectually fair but you should account also at least the amount of interests you could gain from a saving account depositing your money in a bank.
It hasn't been zero all the time since the '20 and was a first defence against inflation.

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someone should make the pic with a shopping cart of today, curious how full it would look today Smiley
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I believe the team of three theory is with Phillip James Wilson as the third member. He has offered a detailed and very long accounting of his involvement with the Satoshi group here http://vu.hn/bitcoin%20origins.html Ive read it in its entirety and find it much more plausible than any of the rantings of CSW. By Craigs admission to a reporter years ago he doesnt have a million coins bc he already spent his early coins years ago. No way a guy with that kind of ego would deny having a million coins if he really did have them. The simplest explanation for the million coins never moving is not bc Satoshi is the most humble and cheapest man to ever live with no care for money, its that Kleinman is dead, his keys are lost or encrypted, and dead men dont spend money.

Part way through reading this link and holy shit.  If this is a work of fiction it is well researched. 
We had all this even in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg31171819#msg31171819
not that well researched https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9cyi3o/scronty_phil_wilson_is_not_satoshi/
vidya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPCVeo1u20 Ep. 94 - A Satoshi Nakamoto Story | Phil "Scronty" Wilson
some useful links in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2680645.msg45508645#msg45508645
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-McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash

My guess is that Mr. Mcafee's reveal hinted at this week will be Satoshi as himself and then he'll tell us that you're Satoshi too and then we'll feel all warm inside and that.

Why he would have a clue who he is is beyond me. By 2009 he was well into his jungle freak phase and before that it was yoga and microlights for many years. And if he did have the vaguest hint why did he not pile in in 2009/10/11/12/13 and more? By the time he arrived Satoshi was long gone and no one else has ever claimed to know. I can't see anyone cheerfully telling him over a line of drain cleaner a few years down the road.


Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some  judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him)

I don't know or care what the endgame is but there's no evidence of this trust either.
McAffe turned his brain to mush with the copious amounts of of drugs he's been doing.
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-McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash

My guess is that Mr. Mcafee's reveal hinted at this week will be Satoshi as himself and then he'll tell us that you're Satoshi too and then we'll feel all warm inside and that.

Why he would have a clue who he is is beyond me. By 2009 he was well into his jungle freak phase and before that it was yoga and microlights for many years. And if he did have the vaguest hint why did he not pile in in 2009/10/11/12/13 and more? By the time he arrived Satoshi was long gone and no one else has ever claimed to know. I can't see anyone cheerfully telling him over a line of drain cleaner a few years down the road.


Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some  judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him)

I don't know or care what the endgame is but there's no evidence of this trust either.

CSW been claiming that the keys are in that Tulip Trading Trust not to be distributed before 1/1/2020. It's just too much of a coincidence that he's starting his lawsuit on establishing himself as Satoshi now.

yeah....the 3 theory with Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney as the other 2 in the group (who have passed) ...my worst nightmare is he is right and they did put all the 'test coins' into
a tulip trust, that the last man standing can access. Jan 1st, 2020...being the weak link of the trio and the last man standing..that is the nightmare scenario to me (1 out of 50 chance of true IMHO) ...so if Craig Wright does get access to all that BTC he could play the same game as Bitcoin Cash and  crash BTC into BSV or some other silliness if he drove the price down enough on selling massively..it would make the 'tulip mania' of the middle ages look tame by comparison.

Anyway, like all 'nightmares' it is extremely unlikely, but still, if BTC was gonna go 'tulips' at this point in time, IMHO, it would take some classic unlikely event like this to do so...

Craig Wright as a 'black swan event' ...sh*t just scared myself Smiley (Again, 1-50 chance..but damn that would suck) Sad



I believe the team of three theory is with Phillip James Wilson as the third member. He has offered a detailed and very long accounting of his involvement with the Satoshi group here http://vu.hn/bitcoin%20origins.html Ive read it in its entirety and find it much more plausible than any of the rantings of CSW. By Craigs admission to a reporter years ago he doesnt have a million coins bc he already spent his early coins years ago. No way a guy with that kind of ego would deny having a million coins if he really did have them. The simplest explanation for the million coins never moving is not bc Satoshi is the most humble and cheapest man to ever live with no care for money, its that Kleinman is dead, his keys are lost or encrypted, and dead men dont spend money.
You guys are silly Bitcoin, wasn't expected to be this fucking crazy profitable thing. I'm still sticking with my theory, Satoshi is one guy, he deleted all of his stash when Gavin went to meet the CIA, he figured he would be forced to put a backdoor in the code or be charged with an accessory for every single silk road transaction. It was safer, cheaper and better for the project for him to wash his hands of it then.
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I believe the team of three theory is with Phillip James Wilson as the third member. He has offered a detailed and very long accounting of his involvement with the Satoshi group here http://vu.hn/bitcoin%20origins.html Ive read it in its entirety and find it much more plausible than any of the rantings of CSW. By Craigs admission to a reporter years ago he doesnt have a million coins bc he already spent his early coins years ago. No way a guy with that kind of ego would deny having a million coins if he really did have them. The simplest explanation for the million coins never moving is not bc Satoshi is the most humble and cheapest man to ever live with no care for money, its that Kleinman is dead, his keys are lost or encrypted, and dead men dont spend money.

Part way through reading this link and holy shit.  If this is a work of fiction it is well researched. 
We had all this even in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg31171819#msg31171819
not that well researched https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9cyi3o/scronty_phil_wilson_is_not_satoshi/
vidya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPCVeo1u20 Ep. 94 - A Satoshi Nakamoto Story | Phil "Scronty" Wilson
some useful links in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2680645.msg45508645#msg45508645


Thanks.  Too much Deutz.  Rabbit hole averted. 
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Part way through reading this link and holy shit.  If this is a work of fiction it is well researched. 

I thought it read like a tweenie's discarded slash fiction myself.
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I think I need to share this even if I will probably regret doing so.

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yeah that was just the thing to wake up to sipping my morning coffee.

trying to erase that image from my mind now. wish me luck..
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Market Dynamics: Historical Ranking for Top-30 Coins:
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Part way through reading this link and holy shit.  If this is a work of fiction it is well researched. 

I thought it read like a tweenie's discarded slash fiction myself.

It sounded pretty good to me after 2 bottles if somewhat self aggrandizing

Now my fingers smell like rabbit poo
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In 1967, Italian engineer Giorgio Rosa

Republic of Rose Island

The platform declared independence on 24 June 1968


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Rose_Island

Now, after many years, they continue with the same thought.

Governments do not like this kind of micronation initiatives.

They feel intimidated by any initiative that escapes their laws.

As an italian, I've heard about this several times.
Italian Wikipedia entry gives more informations, it might be worth a read via Google Transalate.

The key passage is the following:

The claims of sovereignty, independence and international rights acquired by the owners of the platform were unfounded, as Italian citizens, even outside Italy, must abide by state laws (this in a nutshell can be deduced from the essay on the Journal of International Law of 1968 ).

Wondering if this principle applies to every citizenship or only to italians.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterritorial_jurisdiction
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a little woody

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Hey what do I gotta do to get a hat avatar. All these brothers stuntin hats on this long thread.

Is it a merit level thing I dunno, I can't even seem to put up any avatar. I want to feel included. I search the forum and got nothin.

Bring Craig Wright  Angry to justice and rescue Elwar and his family  Cry and you will receive 1000 merits and a hat of your choosing.

Your quest begins now.

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It sounded pretty good to me after 2 bottles if somewhat self aggrandizing

Now my fingers smell like rabbit poo

The thing to me that emits most strongly from everything Satoshi got up to is self discipline. The time and thought to create it, boot strapping it from nothing, keeping it chugging and then vanishing at just the right moment. That's many years of intense and sustained effort.

I can't believe someone that on point would ever have revealed themselves to anyone else. He could get what he needed from others while staying completely anon. Even if it was a group there was still no need for any of them to know who each of the others were, let alone write a wee memoir a few years down the line.

Nothing and no one who's come along since has a whiff of that at all which is why I don't buy any of them. And as time passes the incentive to stay disappeared grows ever more powerful. It has not slacked off. It is white hot and getting hotter.

You go and do the after dinner speeches when no one give a shit any more, not when the whole world is ready to jump at you.


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Whoops! $BSV has experienced yet another reorg, this time 6 (six!) consecutive blocks were orphaned (#578640–578645), this chain included a 128 MB block #578644 🤦‍♂️ The network was basically stuck for 1.5 hours, and this shows that even 6 confirmations are not enough 🤷‍♂️

6 blocks reorg. Shit, that will undo both of this weeks transactions   Grin
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I believe the team of three theory is with Phillip James Wilson as the third member. He has offered a detailed and very long accounting of his involvement with the Satoshi group here http://vu.hn/bitcoin%20origins.html Ive read it in its entirety and find it much more plausible than any of the rantings of CSW. By Craigs admission to a reporter years ago he doesnt have a million coins bc he already spent his early coins years ago. No way a guy with that kind of ego would deny having a million coins if he really did have them. The simplest explanation for the million coins never moving is not bc Satoshi is the most humble and cheapest man to ever live with no care for money, its that Kleinman is dead, his keys are lost or encrypted, and dead men dont spend money.

Part way through reading this link and holy shit.  If this is a work of fiction it is well researched. 
We had all this even in this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg31171819#msg31171819
not that well researched https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9cyi3o/scronty_phil_wilson_is_not_satoshi/
vidya https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPCVeo1u20 Ep. 94 - A Satoshi Nakamoto Story | Phil "Scronty" Wilson
some useful links in this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2680645.msg45508645#msg45508645


Thanks.  Too much Deutz.  Rabbit hole averted. 

A lot of hand wavy dismissing in particular in the reddit post with a solid rebuttal from Steve Patterson worth reading. Not saying Phil's story is all true or partly true, but much more plausible than CSW's easter egg claim or pretty much anything CSW has ever claimed(low bar ikr). I prefer not to dismiss something the minute somebody puts out a reddit post "debunking it" without reading the real material and judging for myself. Also at worst its a great read imo, and if its true it really pieces together how CSW can be so incompetent in so many regards, but still succeed in tricking so many that he is Satoshi.
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April 19, 2019, 11:23:23 AM

Dr. Craig Wright Epic Bitcoin and Proof of Work Mining Twitter Rant Regarding Freedom
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/dr-craig-wright-epic-bitcoin-and-proof-of-work-mining-twitter-rant-regarding-freedom/

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October 31, 2016
Bitcoin Origins by Phil Wilson aka Scronty
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5aflch/bitcoin_origins/
http://vu.hn/bitcoin%20origins.html

August 30, 2018
Is “Satoshi Nakamoto” Craig Wright, Dave Kleiman and Phil Wilson? Bitcoin Creators Revealed!
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/satoshi-nakamoto-craig-wright-dave-kleiman-phil-wilson-bitcoin-creators-revealed/

September 2, 2018
Craig Wright Refutes Phil Wilson’s Bitcoin Origins Satoshi Story: Shares ‘Easter Eggs’ Exposure Plans
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/craig-wright-refutes-phil-wilsons-bitcoin-origins-satoshi-story/

A Satoshi Nakamoto Story | Phil "Scronty" Wilson by Steve Patterson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OPCVeo1u20
[2:59] "I think that Phil Wilson is the real Satoshi Nakamoto"
Some interview timestamps: https://gist.github.com/cryptobabel/b74b459a41573acac3770d02ba098517
 
September 4, 2018
Scronty (Phil Wilson) is not Satoshi
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9cyi3o/scronty_phil_wilson_is_not_satoshi/
    And Steve Patterson's response therein:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/9cyi3o/scronty_phil_wilson_is_not_satoshi/e5eyjs9/




Phil's twitter account:
https://twitter.com/_Phil_Wilson_



Note Shelby aka @anonymint thinks Phil Wilson is a fraud and this is nonsense.
Shelby thinks Satoshi is the Zionists global elite:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628344.msg45538963#msg45538963




"Satoshi" wrote a book, here is a summary (the only one thus far):  
https://medium.com/@venture_crypto/the-genesis-block-6c9ebde73ff9

Team Satoshi Twitter: https://twitter.com/TeamSatoshi
https://twitter.com/TeamSatoshi/status/1013566343206010880




So every news just created confused I think Satoshi is a team mane, not one person or use a fake name.
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Good afternoon WO brothers!
Two days I was away, I know I missed a lot however good to see bitcoins @ $5,263
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