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April 29, 2019, 09:57:56 AM
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Coinbase, Binance, Goldman, And Other Big Crypto Players Met Behind Closed Doors To Discuss The Future Of Crypto Huh

https://www.investinblockchain.com/coinbase-binance-goldman-other-big-crypto-players-met-behind-closed-doors-to-discuss-future-crypto/

"Following Bitcoin’s lows in December, veteran trader Hoe Lon Leng reportedly orchestrated a meeting with 2 dozen of the crypto market’s biggest players, ranging from the likes of Coinbase, Binance, Goldman, Galaxy Digital, and others, to discuss the future of crypto.

As reported by Bloomberg, the meeting was held on a luxury resort on Singapore’s Sentosa Island on January 20, where the highly influential individuals brainstormed ways to make cryptocurrencies a part of the world’s financial infrastructure.
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Per the report, an important goal of the meeting was to create the framework for an orderly market in crypto derivatives, which is part of every new asset class’s road to acceptance.
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The crypto derivatives focused on at the meeting are called private bilateral derivatives, otherwise known as over-the-counter (OTC) contracts. These OTC contracts are different from Bitcoin futures, as futures contracts are managed by regulated companies like CME Group."
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April 29, 2019, 10:04:12 AM
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This is under the assumption that the block size wouldn't grow when needed, blocks aren't full without outside attacks so there's no evidence that when the time comes we won't increase the block size to a common sense size.

Well, other than the evidence that blocks were kept small the last time they became persistently full. Which, in itself, is pretty strong evidence.

Once the need resurfaces (and it most certainly will), how long do you think it will take to implement the necessary change?
That was a short spam attack period, you know damn well that was artificial and everyone knew it.
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April 29, 2019, 10:09:00 AM

I plan selling 50% of my Bitcoins. Was thinking to do that @$50k per coin. What do you guys think? Hold a bit longer and see where it goes?


We are not even close to $50k, yet, so you better hold, otherwise you will NOT even get close to meeting your plan about what to do.
Exactly what a stupid question, I plan at selling at x should I sell at 1/10 if my targeted price.

hahahahahaha

That is what I was thinking.

Frequently, these trolls come up with some doosies of a "dumb" (like you said) questions.

It was more an ironic question to show how much I believe in Bitcoin... Not my fault when people are too stupid to understand some things  Cheesy...
I was only pretending to be stupid, it's not my fault others are stupid.


Okay bro.
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April 29, 2019, 10:09:29 AM

Coinbase, Binance, Goldman, And Other Big Crypto Players Met Behind Closed Doors To Discuss The Future Of Crypto Huh

https://www.investinblockchain.com/coinbase-binance-goldman-other-big-crypto-players-met-behind-closed-doors-to-discuss-future-crypto/

Why do you retards always post things like this pretending it's good news?  You're literally posting "Goldman Sachs tries to trick retarded goyim into using digital cashless society slave system instead of physical metals" then go, "Cool!".
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April 29, 2019, 10:12:16 AM

This is under the assumption that the block size wouldn't grow when needed, blocks aren't full without outside attacks so there's no evidence that when the time comes we won't increase the block size to a common sense size.

Well, other than the evidence that blocks were kept small the last time they became persistently full. Which, in itself, is pretty strong evidence.

Once the need resurfaces (and it most certainly will), how long do you think it will take to implement the necessary change?
That was a short spam attack period, you know damn well that was artificial and everyone knew it.

It's pretty well documented that from Nov 2017 to Feb 208 Ver-owned BTC was being sent back and forth to itself in intermittent bursts with exceptionally high fees, just so the average fee would increase and Ver could say, "Look! Bitcoin Core fees are too high!"

There's no reason to increase the block size, and if this "pushes" people into using Lightning, then good.
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April 29, 2019, 10:14:12 AM

This is under the assumption that the block size wouldn't grow when needed, blocks aren't full without outside attacks so there's no evidence that when the time comes we won't increase the block size to a common sense size.

Well, other than the evidence that blocks were kept small the last time they became persistently full. Which, in itself, is pretty strong evidence.

Once the need resurfaces (and it most certainly will), how long do you think it will take to implement the necessary change?
That was a short spam attack period, you know damn well that was artificial and everyone knew it.

Yes, I remember people posting the addresses of the spammers at the time. That's the good thing about 1mb blocks, spamming gets expensive.
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April 29, 2019, 10:22:22 AM

This is under the assumption that the block size wouldn't grow when needed, blocks aren't full without outside attacks so there's no evidence that when the time comes we won't increase the block size to a common sense size.

Well, other than the evidence that blocks were kept small the last time they became persistently full. Which, in itself, is pretty strong evidence.

Once the need resurfaces (and it most certainly will), how long do you think it will take to implement the necessary change?
That was a short spam attack period, you know damn well that was artificial and everyone knew it.

Yes, I remember people posting the addresses of the spammers at the time. That's the good thing about 1mb blocks, spamming gets expensive.
Big blocks are a disaster if there isn't sufficient utility. Say you had 32 MB blocks and only < 2 MB of actual traffic. Someone could easily spam 28 MB per block for peanuts. Sustained over 1 day: 4032 MB of garbage for almost free. Good idea indeed.
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April 29, 2019, 10:22:55 AM

and if this "pushes" people into using Lightning, then good.

Lightning incentivizes everyone to only have one channel open with a bank which then routes all of their transactions.  HOW THE FUCK IS THAT GOOD?  WHY would anyone advocate for that garbage over physical metals? Oh yea, I forgot, you're all con artist scammers who only care about trying to profit off pump and dumps even though you could just as easily make as much or more money in metals while not promoting (((digital currency))) slavery and surveillance systems.
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April 29, 2019, 10:46:05 AM

I think the secwit was implemented in order to prevent the translation of already signed transactions from Satoshi's wallets

a small block at same reason, it was necessary to create a valid cause of secwit

if increase the block, you will have to cancel the secwit, so bitcoin does not want to leave the small block

Nothing in segwit prevents Satoshi from moving any coins. Non-segwit transactions are still 100% possible. It would be good for you to read about segwit before spewing clueless arguments.
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April 29, 2019, 10:51:01 AM

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Sorry for quoting the Roach, guys, but this may be worth a laugh. I was (passive-aggressively) amused.
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April 29, 2019, 10:54:40 AM
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Hoan Kiem Lake near Turtle pagoda in Hanoi?

Edit: Could also be Ho Tay lake (west lake) in Hanoi. I say its Hanoi because IIRC you've worked/spent time in China and this would be an immediate holiday destination or work-cation.

Great work. Absolutely nailed it. It is Hoan Kiem Lake.  Super fast detective work Icygreen !

The turtle pagoda is visible in the background on the lake, over the shoulder of the girl in the white top, next to the girl in the red top





Hoan Kiem Lake is famous because a turtle god lives in it that gave the Vietnamese emperor a sword to fight off Chinese invaders

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April 29, 2019, 10:59:02 AM
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and if this "pushes" people into using Lightning, then good.

 even though you could just as easily make as much or more money in metals

Yer kinda funny, hows your position on silver doing again?  
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April 29, 2019, 11:02:09 AM

A ridiculously early good morning Bitcoinland. Sorry but 7:00AM is past my usual bedtime. Gawd I hate farmers' hours. Sitting at the airport waiting for my plane.

We seem to be continuing sideways... currently $5209USD/$7015CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully by the time I fly back up with my new teeth and lovely young girlfriend Bitcoin will be up over $6k. I'll have to buy some dollars when I get back. Taking down bucks I bought when Bitcoin was over $5.5k. This barely over $5k crap is bullshit.

Go Bitcoin go.
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A ridiculously early good morning Bitcoinland. Sorry but 7:00AM is past my usual bedtime. Gawd I hate farmers' hours. Sitting at the airport waiting for my plane.

We seem to be continuing sideways... currently $5209USD/$7015CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Hopefully by the time I fly back up with my new teeth and lovely young girlfriend Bitcoin will be up over $6k. I'll have to buy some dollars when I get back. Taking down bucks I bought when Bitcoin was over $5.5k. This barely over $5k crap is bullshit.

Go Bitcoin go.

If you could just hide the fact you're going south, Jimbo...!  Angry

Anywayz, when you get back to Toronto, the corn will sure notice and get back up with you.  Wink
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Hoan Kiem Lake near Turtle pagoda in Hanoi?

Edit: Could also be Ho Tay lake (west lake) in Hanoi. I say its Hanoi because IIRC you've worked/spent time in China and this would be an immediate holiday destination or work-cation.

Great work. Absolutely nailed it. It is Hoan Kiem Lake.  Super fast detective work Icygreen !

The turtle pagoda is visible in the background on the lake, over the shoulder of the girl in the white top, next to the girl in the red top





Hoan Kiem Lake is famous because a turtle god lives in it that gave the Vietnamese emperor a sword to fight off Chinese invaders


Nice one hairy and thanks for the merits!, I recognized the lamp post bottoms and the sandals from the first photo but never been to Hanoi.
Thanks, my detective cap is on today but to no real avail: short story:

My dog went missing early yesterday morning where I spend a lot of time in Vietnam and today was spent visiting all the restaurants that serve dog. I did not want to see that....  fucking monkey savages, really, I just wanted to.. Roll Eyes.  Anyhow, we didn't find him and my girl is heartbroken.  Back to Canada next week where at least my other dog gets to grow old and fat and fart her way to death.  Sorry for the rant, just having a sad moment.
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April 29, 2019, 11:15:26 AM

and if this "pushes" people into using Lightning, then good.

Lightning incentivizes everyone to only have one channel open with a bank which then routes all of their transactions.  HOW THE FUCK IS THAT GOOD?  WHY would anyone advocate for that garbage over physical metals? Oh yea, I forgot, you're all con artist scammers who only care about trying to profit off pump and dumps even though you could just as easily make as much or more money in metals while not promoting (((digital currency))) slavery and surveillance systems.

Hey - very good spotting. But seems for BTC it's too late to fix that now.  There is only one from many 'busines case' left over: Speculation

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So sorry to hear that about your dog.  That would be a very difficult day for anyone. 
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April 29, 2019, 11:58:49 AM

Firstly this Stock to flow is not a new concept. As far as I know it was proposed in the bitcoin environment in by Saifedean Ammous in his book The Bitcoin Standard: The Decentralized Alternative to Central Banking.

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If you carefully read what I wrote, You'll understand I didn't stated he invented the concept, but I stated he was the first to apply it to Bitcoin.

https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/875873520290598913
You can see him working on it here
https://thesaifhouse.wpcomstaging.com/2016/07/09/the-bitcoin-halving-and-monetary-competition/
whereas this was earlier, but wasn't really picked up
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3db9nn/stocktoflow_ratio_of_bitcoin_surpasses_that_of/
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Sorry for quoting the Roach, guys, but this may be worth a laugh. I was (passive-aggressively) amused.

No, Youre right it was worth it.

and if this "pushes" people into using Lightning, then good.

Lightning incentivizes everyone to only have one channel open with a bank which then routes all of their transactions.  HOW THE FUCK IS THAT GOOD?  WHY would anyone advocate for that garbage over physical metals? Oh yea, I forgot, you're all con artist scammers who only care about trying to profit off pump and dumps even though you could just as easily make as much or more money in metals while not promoting (((digital currency))) slavery and surveillance systems.

Hey - very good spotting. But seems for BTC it's too late to fix that now.  There is only one from many 'busines case' left over: Speculation

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April 29, 2019, 12:15:38 PM

I am in the same situation. 1 month ago I transferred 1015€ from my Crypto Captial account to my German bank account and never received the money  Angry
Support doesn't reply to my emails nor do they answer the phone.

So I will now contact CEX.IO to see if they can get my money back, and also post a SCAM REPORT on this forum, to warn people:

DO NOT use Crypto Capital !!!

What happened:  
Placed withdrawal of $ 9 890 from Crypto Capital to my U. S. bank account 12/13/2017.
Received an automatic message on my email that the payment successfully withdrawn from Crypto Capital account 12/14/2017.
Balance on my Crypto Capital account is 0.00.
Money has never come to my bank account.

Scammers Profile Link: http://cryptocapital.co

Amount Scammed: $ 9 890
Payment Method: USD bank transfer  
Proof of Payment: https://imgur.com/a/JZXFG
Additional Notes:
 I have been trying to get in touch with them withing 2 months, no success: called them up, emailing them. It has been more than 10 weeks.
Total Crypto Capital ignoring and Cex.io has washed their hands and kicked me off to stay alone with their scammed partner…
Money has never come to my bank account. Beware of Crypto Capital by Cex.io


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